Spider-Man 3

[Daisho2004]

OK I got to see Spider-Man 3 today and it was really good. The Villains made the movie, my only problem was that it coulda been (2) separate movies instead of (1) they really shoulda concentrated on (1) main villain I think it would've been a lot better. Venom was awesome as well was the Sandman but there really wasn't that made air time for them. the movie was almost 2 1/2hrs. and they wanted to concentrate more on the emotional side of Peter Parker than Spider-Man and they did succeed in doing that but at times it seemed a little dragged on and you couldn't wait for Spider-Man to arrive back on the screen the New Green Goblin was also Excellent and I won't give any details about what happens that would just ruin the movie. But over all a very good movie and worth seeing on the Big Screen.

[limubai2000]

It was average at best.

Very disappointed, but I loved the Venom stuff.

It was very uneven, almost like Raimi didn't know what movie he wanted to make. It did have some of the best superhero action ever put to film but the other stuff just left a bad taste in my mouth and ruined the film. Campbell's cameo was awesome, almost the best part of the film.

[Dahnamics]

yooo

venom is in this!!???

[VonHumboldtFleischer]

I think I look forward to Bruce Campbell's cameos more than anything else in the movie.

Which, if you think about it, is sort of sad.

[GwaiLoMoFo]

I took my boys to see this one today as well. They liked and I thought it was pretty good too. The weakest of the trilogy though, IMO.

**SPOILERS**

The action scenes made this one though. Previous 2 films it was equal doses of great action & stoytelling. They just crammed too much into this one. It was liked they threw two films into a blender. Woulda worked better if they concentrated on one villian instead of 3. If they cut out about half the storylines, better developed the other half, and saved the others for the next film, It woulda been just as good as parts 1 & 2. I was also VERY irritated at how many freaking times Peter Parker and friends broke down into tears!!! Every 5 min somebody was boohooin, WAY too sappy IMO. Peter's decent into the dark was also very cheesey. Dancin around like Travolta in Saturday Night Fever!? I was actually happy when Peter backhanded that selfish little biotch Mary Jane too. Topher Grace as Venom!?!? I know its a movie based on a comic book, but... It took Peter a long time to learn how to use his powers. Topher Grace's Venom has them mastered in and layin the smack down on Spidey in 5 min. Spidey basically gets his arse beat in every confrontation. The performances by the supporting actors (minus Aunt May and the always on spot Bruce Campbell) was strait B grade acting, seriously. I know that sounds like alot of complaints, but they set the bar high with 1 & 2. Liked I said, the action saved this one for me. 7.5/10

[Daisho2004]

GLMF, that about sums it up, I agree with all of that. They would've been better off making a 4th. movie just starring Venom. I did read that there is a 4th. movie in the works as well. Just way too much going on in this one.

[Beat TG]

I just came home from watching it... It was nearly perfect to me. There were so much going on both story and action-wise which kept the movie going forward without slowing down which was a great thing.

Two flaws, one big and one less, though was how Venom came in the movie and how Spiderman's relationship with Sandman (who was not mentioned nor seen in the original which kinda excuses so there will be more complications for Spiderman) developed respectively. Seems Raimi did have problems timing their stories when there already was one complete subplot between Spiderman and New Goblin.

Ah well, I really enjoyed the overall movie anyways. I believe I'm alone on this so far but I think it's the BEST movie in the whole series.

[Megaloman]

venom sucks as a character, better to have used the Vulture as originally planned.

David

[godzillakungfu]

You know what?

I would've laughed at you before I saw the movie.

Venom was horrible. I'm sorry he appears and you know the rest.



***slight spoilers***

Sandman could've been a great story all alone. Here is spider-man getting the key to the city. Here is a felon trying to save his daughter.

No real establishment of Peter vs Eddie. Then two quick scenes to establish why he hates Peter. Seriously I would've been happy with Goblin Jr and Sandman. Develop all those and it would've been fine.

Way to much going on. Worst character development out of all three IMO.

I actually thought the fight scenes took a step back. They were beautiful to look at and you could see the visual improvement. Yet, there was nothing earth shattering like the train fight, street sliding, or the clock arms in spiderman 2.

Sandman was my favorite and that is coming from a Venom Fan.

[Daisho2004]

I kinda have to disagree with you on the Venom part, I thought Venom was Great. Granted he has able to use his power more quicker than Spider-Man because he was Morphed from Spider-Man himself but that shoulda been a totally different movie by itself. And I will agree with you on the Sandman plot it left to many holes in the story. They should've really taken there time in making this movie instead of throwing everything in it at once.

[godzillakungfu]

Venom is a major character. So, for him to play second fiddle to sandman and goblin jr is ridiculous.

Venom itself was cool his usage was very subpar. It reminded me of the old KF movies that Had Jackie on the box and he appeared for 5 minutes.

No, Parker Using the suit does not count as Venom on screen IMO.

[dndcollect]

blah, at one point i was wondering if i had mistakenly went into the theatre showing Spiderman the Musical.

i didnt like any of the spidermans, i just find alot of it corny.

xmen i didnt find corny.

i dont know, that is just me.

[Beat TG]

The only thing in the Spiderman movies I find corny is the CGI (at times is looks great, in others not) and the humor (works mostly but otherwise unnecessary).

xmen i didnt find corny.

the original was great, the sequels sucked.

[teako170]

Haven't seen it yet so can't comment, however, I never liked the idea of using 3 villains. (Isn't that what killed the Batman films?) They could have done an entire film just around Venom.

Then in Spidey 4, used Sandman & the return of the HG. Maybe even do a ASM 121/122 type film.

Then in Spidey 5, bring on the Torch (whom PP had big issues with back in the early Ditko issues) plus a new villain like Mysterio.

Then in Spidey 6.... well let's not get that far ahead of ourselves BUT.................

(((....drum roll please....)))

For those die-hard Spidey fans (like myself) good news! Sony Pictures has confirmed that three more films will be made thanks to the huge box office numbers SM3 has generated.

With Toby? With director Sam Raimi?

Well, it would be insane if these guys were not involved. Let's hope.

[Daisho2004]

teako170, I did read that Toby Maguire didn't want to do any more of this series but hey money talks. And I also read the Kirsten Dunst wasn't going to go beyond Spider-Man #3.

[The Running Man]

Quick poll here:

Who thought that they did justice with Venom?

[Daisho2004]

I thought Venom was awesome, but like I said he should've had his own movie with Spider-Man.

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Who thought that they did justice with Venom?
I thought they did a terrible job with the Venom stuff. Coulda and shoulda been so much more. Topher Grace sux, and the way they just kinda threw Venom on there for the last 15 min was poorly executed and just didnt fit IMO. So a big NO for me on the poll.

*Spoiler*
The way Eddie just happened to be in the same church standing directly under Spidey was just stupid to me. I know its a comic book, but c'mon.

[Beat TG]

I thought they did a terrible job with the Venom stuff. Coulda and shoulda been so much more. Topher Grace sux, and the way they just kinda threw Venom on there for the last 15 min was poorly executed and just didnt fit IMO.

I thought so too but at least I got to see one of the best villains in the spiderman comics. New Goblin and Sandman's story (except that it took us two movies until it's revealed that Sandman was Peter's uncle's actual killer) were great though (again Venom's story made those stories slightly poor in execution).

[Daisho2004]

GLMF, OK I'll give it to you about him being in the same Church and stuff like that, but its like I said Venom should've had a much bigger part in this movie or his own movie against Spider-Man, instead of using 3 Villains it ruined the movie for me. I kinda hope that Venom will resurface somewhere down in the series. I know its highly unlikely but hey its Hollywood!

[GwaiLoMoFo]

I said Venom should've had a much bigger part in this movie or his own movie against Spider-Man, instead of using 3 Villains it ruined the movie for me.
I couldnt agree more with you there Daisho.

[limubai2000]

I think Venom was pulled off well on screen.

However after seeing this film a second time I'm rather upset and I ditto previous comments about Venom getting a back seat to Sandman and getting taken out far to easily!

But the problem here is Raimi was trying to do so much in this film that it weakens in the middle badly.

I'm gonna have to say this is the worst of the 3 films, by far. I also noticed the "forced" addition of Spidey running across a big American flag before the end fight and I thought that was a far to obvious attempt to grab heartstrings, and the CGI flag looked horrible!

[Daisho2004]

OK here is something that I think was overlooked by all of us here, if you remember Peter Parker takes a sample of the Venom Alien to the School Scientist and he seems to keep it. I wonder if that is left for a possible Venom sequel

[Dion Brother]

"I'm gonna have to say this is the worst of the 3 films, by far. I also noticed the "forced" addition of Spidey running across a big American flag before the end fight and I thought that was a far to obvious attempt to grab heartstrings, and the CGI flag looked horrible!"


After the snide "Ashamed to be American" tone of the awful SUPERMAN RETURNS, I found that scene to be a highlight.

[HANZOSTEEL]

cant wait to see it at the movies

[CHIANG FU]

I saw SPIDERMAN 3 the other day. What I like best about it is the emotional aspect of it. I felt like it was very realistic and smart to show Spidey have some vulnerability. And I could see some of myself in each of the characters.
I know how Peter Parker must have felt. I have wondered myself why do some very bad things happen to good people like ME? I understand why the darkness almost took him over. He lost his Uncle and thought he had come to terms with it (as much as is possible) only to find out he most certainly has not.
I know how MARY JANE must have felt. I know what it's like when people like you one day and then treat you like you're nothing the next. I've had the same experience of feeling like you can't talk to people about how you feel because no matter how much you try to explain, they still don't GET IT.
I understand how HARRY must have felt. I know how confusing and frustrating it is trying to deal with the fact that someone close to you has done you real wrong. And for them to call themselves explaining or apologizing would be like trying to put a bandage over a knife wound. I understand why he felt he had the right to seek revenge.
The SANDMAN?
This is a classic example of how people don't want to give somebody a second chance when they messed up. Nobody wants to listen. Nobody cares about your truth. So you don't change because...what's the point?
But VENOM...
This was someone more than happy stepping to the bad side because he couldn't have what he wanted. He felt he couldn't win fair and square so he took his frustration out on others and stooped to any level. And that is no way to live. I did not like him at all.
I think this is a very worthwhile movie to see.

[HANZOSTEEL]

Damn i remember when venom was first introduced. This is how it happened in the comic books

Spider man was on another planet with all of the other heroes from earth and other places, i think
they were fighting the end of the human race in an entity called ''the beyonder". This all took place
in Secret Wars, cant remember what issue maybe #8. 1ST Appearance of the "alien symbiote"
(later to become spidey's costume and then Venom; eddie brock as the host).

On his way back to earth the black muck (alien costume), part of it came back to earth with spider
man. It was creeping around Peter parkers apartment and Eventually although quite ''amazed"
Peter Parker begins to find the creepy crawly black thing quite usefull, it would come to his
command, bend to his thoughts and to top it off it could cover him in an instant and become the
costume.

Also if i remember correctly before the ''alien symbiote" PP used to use cartrigdges in the comic
book to refill his webbing; with the costume it was not neccesary.

It was something else at night the costume would take over peter parkers body when he was
asleep and he would swing aroung the city.

Reed richards of the fantastic four helps spiderman CATCH the costume blasting it off his body
with radiation i believe, either that or sound waves, blasted with sound waves because it did not
want to leave Peter parker as a host. Eventually the FF began to study it in an isolation chamber
of which the costume was lurking now and appeared to have gained it's own shape. it's
personality was more defined by now an entity of it's own.

Eddie Brock (later venom) a photographer at the place Peter parker worked is pissed off at Peter
parker but i cant remember why i think it was a job issue peter parker took his job or whatever.

I dont know Exactly how it happened but eddie brock became Venom soon after.
In the comic books he was a big guy not a guy who looks like toby mcguires brother in spiderman
3

There was a huge deal about this over at Marvel comics in the world of spider man and his
popularity really grew thanks to the artistic impressions of Todd Mcfarlane who drew probably
like nobody ever could at the time. Todd Mcfarlane and Mark Beachum. I think the popuarity of
''spiderman'' at this time even spawned a new Spider Man title but i forget which one. Possibly
spider man vol. 2 ''the amazing spider man"

Spider man was wearing the suit for a while and even after it left him in the comics he made his
own ''black and white suit'' Interesting time i loved it. Venom became a "good guy" in the comics
because he became popular i suppose.

Makes me want to go back into my collection and read it all over again. Im lucky i didnt sell it all
cant wait to see it at the movies.

[Daisho2004]

Well I'll tell you this much I just got to watch the Spider-Man "Venom Saga" which is an animated movie and it was great, it put the movie to shame. It introduced Venom and how it come to earth pretty much how "HanzoSteel" said in his post review. It also introduced you to Carnage if the film makers would've stayed true to this animated movie it would've been one of the Greatest Super Hero movies every made. It still is a must see if you want to have some of the gaps filled in that the movie left out.

[Chen Zhen]

the animated series is the truth!!! i loved the venom saga

[Barsader]

I am pulling for a Mysterio appearance myself.
with the CG technology of nowadays, i think he would be a
good fit.

Just some thought-anybody fans of/familiar with the late 60's
Spidey comics? the 1/2 hour episdodes.
Those were the SH*T.

[Beat TG]

the animated series is the truth!!! i loved the venom saga

word!:hat