Is every Chang Cheh movie available through celestial IVL?

[Sandpalm79]

I have a newfound urge to possibly attempt to get every Chang Cheh movie. I have focused mainly on the Venoms but would like to possibly try to get his complete filmography. Are they all available through celestial? and does anyone on this board have anywhere close to all of them? Also what does his body of work seem like when you have over 50 of his films? would like to get an insight into what the overall view is like after seeing the majority?

Also found this cool lil site and looks like it has a pretty complete list of his films..

http://www.beijingvideo.com/bjv/d2.html

[Sandpalm79]

Pretty Complete list?
Chang Cheh
(Chang Yi-Yang)


* Butterfly Chalice
* 4 Riders
* Crippled Avengers
* Weird Man
* King Eagle
* Na Cha the Great
* Heroes 2
* Death Ring
* Generation Gap
* Magnificent Trio
* Invincible Shaolin
* Chinatown Kid
* Magnificent Ruffians
* 5 Element Ninjas
* Heaven and Hell Gate
* Brave Archer 1 - 4
* The Daredevils
* Shaolin Rescuers
* Boxer from Shantung
* Ode to Gallantry
* Legend of the Fox
* Shanghai 13
* Men from the Monastery
* 9 Demons
* Masked Avengers
* Shaolin Martial Arts
* Rebel Intruders
* House of Traps
* All Men are Brothers
* Blood Brothers
* 7 Man Army
* New Shaolin Boxers
* Bloody Escape
* Across the River
* Have Sword, Will Travel
* Kid with the Golden Arm
* Flag of Iron
* Delightful Forest
* Man of Iron
* Dancing Warrior
* 5 Shaolin Masters
* Shaolin Avengers
* Life's Gamble
* Invincible Fist
* Trilogy of Swordsmanship
* Police Force
* Iron Bodyguard
* Marco Polo
* Bloody Avengers
* Great Shanghai 1937
* 10 Tigers of Kwantung
* Disciples of Shaolin
* Fantastic Magic Baby
* Tiger Boy
* Friends
* Magnificent Wanderers
* Savage 5
* Naval Commandos
* Golden Swallow
* Anonymous Heroes
* 5 Deadly Venoms
* Singing Killer
* Triple Irons
* The Heroic Ones
* Angry Guest
* Flying Dagger
* One-Armed Swordsman
* Deadly Duo
* Vengeance
* Wandering Swordsman
* Water Margin
* Invincible Kung Fu Brothers
* Shaolin Temple
* The Pirate
* Duel of the Iron Fists
* 2 Champions of Shaolin
* Duel of Fists
* Death Ring
* Slaughter In Xian
* Singing Killer
* Young People
* Streetgangs From Hong Kong
* Mad Boy
* Singing Thief
* Dead End
* The Assassin
* Trail of the Broken Blade
* Sword Stained with Royal Blood
* Return of the One Armed Swordsman

[bratty]

most of those were released on DVD by IVL, yes

[teako170]

Have over 80 CC films. There are indeed some not released by Celestial as they're not part of the Shaw library (like his later films) and some early works like Tiger Boy. Overall, CC made some great films mixed with some average ones as well as some clunkers. Still my favorite though.

If you want a fairly complete list try HKCM (http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/people.asp?id=15) or HKMDB (http://www.hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?id=2912&display_set=eng). My files are on another computer, otherwise I would post all his films, including the aliases, in chronological order.

[Fang Shih-yu]

Yes, the majority of Chang Cheh's Shaw movies have been released by Celestial through IVL on DVD and VCD. Some of the IVLs are "out-of-print", but there are US counterparts for a selection of titles that are currently still available (like Heaven and Hell, put out by Image); otherwise, expect getting all the IVL versions to take a lot of money (and time)! The Bloody Escape is an early work from director Sun Chung; Cheh was brought in to offer some guidance on the film. (It shows in the usage of "zoom shots"!:tongue:) I've only over three dozen of these (so far), spanning from The Magnificent Trio to Five Element Ninjas!:bigsmile:

[Chemical Lemon]

Below are the 80 movies Chang Cheh directed at SB. Some of these were co-directed, and a few he may have just thrown his name on the project to help the director get the go ahead. But these are the 80 he was credited with at SB. All were released by Celestial/IVL except Tiger Boy.

In the list you linked to the following movies were made outside of SB after (or around) the time Chang Cheh left SB. Some of these have been released on gray market dvds, none that I know of have good quality dvds.

Death Ring
Shanghai 13
9 Demons
Across the River
Dancing Warrior
Great Shanghai 1937
Slaughter in Xian
Mad Boy (this may be an alternate title, I'm not sure what this one is)

As Fang Shih-yu said, "The Bloody Escape" was Sun Chung, and isn't in my list. I believe the rest of the movies in that list that are missing from mine are alternate names (I think I've consistently used the HK names in my list, but it's been awhile since I made the list, and I may have used alternate titles in some cases). There are a couple other movies he directed after leaving SB like "Attack of the Joyful Goddess" and "Hidden Hero", I'm not sure on all of them. I also read somewhere that CC directed a movie in Taiwan before coming to SB, not sure if this still exists (or if it's true).


NO YEAR -DVD DATE- MOVIE NAME
-- ---- ---------- -------------------------------------
01 1963 07/05/2007 Butterfly Chalice, The
02 1966 ---------- Tiger Boy
03 1966 04/10/2003 Magnificent Trio, The
04 1967 07/10/2003 Trail Of The Broken Blade, The
05 1967 08/05/2004 One-Armed Swordsman
06 1967 12/30/2004 Assassin, The
07 1968 07/08/2004 Golden Swallow
08 1968 11/03/2005 Flying Dagger, The
09 1968 08/05/2004 Return Of The One-Armed Swordsman
10 1969 08/05/2004 Singing Thief, The
11 1969 11/03/2005 Wandering Swordsman, The
12 1969 03/31/2005 Invincible Fist, The
13 1969 05/12/2005 Dead End
14 1969 06/26/2003 Have Sword Will Travel
15 1970 08/01/2003 Vengeance
16 1970 12/05/2002 Heroic Ones, The
17 1970 01/13/2005 King Eagle
18 1970 01/13/2005 Singing Killer, The
19 1971 08/05/2004 New One-Armed Swordsman, The
20 1971 09/24/2004 Deadly Duo, The
21 1971 03/27/2003 Duel Of Fist
22 1971 12/19/2002 Anonymous Heroes, The
23 1971 09/22/2005 Duel, The
24 1972 03/09/2006 Man Of Iron
25 1972 12/18/2003 Young People
26 1972 11/23/2006 Trilogy Of Swordsmanship
27 1972 02/01/2007 Four Riders
28 1972 12/18/2003 Boxer From Shantung, The
29 1972 10/02/2003 Water Margin, The
30 1972 09/22/2005 Angry Guest, The
31 1972 08/23/2007 Delightful Forest, The
32 1973 10/18/2007 Pirate, The
33 1973 03/31/2005 Friends
34 1973 10/16/2003 All Men Are Brothers
35 1973 10/16/2003 Police Force
36 1973 03/18/2004 Generation Gap, The
37 1973 01/23/2003 Blood Brothers
38 1973 02/13/2003 Heroes Two
39 1973 06/26/2003 Delinquent, The
40 1973 03/27/2003 Iron Bodyguard
41 1974 03/27/2003 Na Cha The Great
42 1974 09/28/2006 Savage Five, The
43 1974 06/08/2006 Shaolin Martial Arts
44 1974 01/15/2004 Five Shaolin Masters
45 1974 04/05/2007 Men From The Monastery
46 1975 02/15/2007 Disciples of Shaolin
47 1975 11/17/2005 Fantastic Magic Baby, The
48 1975 02/17/2005 Boxer Rebellion
49 1975 09/08/2005 Marco Polo
50 1976 11/17/2005 7-Man Army
51 1976 11/04/2004 Shaolin Avengers, The
52 1976 12/22/2005 Magnificent Wanderers
53 1976 04/13/2006 New Shaolin Boxers, The
54 1976 03/13/2003 Shaolin Temple
55 1977 02/19/2004 Chinatown Kid
56 1977 02/23/2006 Naval Commandos, The
57 1977 12/18/2003 Invincible Shaolin
58 1977 11/04/2004 Brave Archer, The
59 1978 10/19/2004 Crippled Avengers
60 1978 11/18/2004 Brave Archer Part 2, The
61 1978 12/18/2003 Five Venoms, The
62 1978 09/18/2003 Heaven And Hell
63 1978 08/23/2007 Life Gamble
64 1979 10/18/2007 Shaolin Rescuers
65 1979 08/23/2007 Magnificent Ruffians, The
66 1979 08/09/2007 Kid With The Golden Arm, The
67 1979 03/08/2007 Daredevils, The
68 1980 12/01/2005 Ten Tigers Of Kwang Tung
69 1980 07/27/2006 Flag Of Iron, The
70 1980 09/28/2006 Rebel Intruders, The
71 1980 11/06/2003 Two Champions Of Shaolin
72 1980 07/07/2005 Legend Of The Fox
73 1981 12/06/2004 Brave Archer Part 3, The
74 1981 12/06/2004 Sword Stained With Royal Blood, The
75 1981 05/24/2007 Masked Avengers
76 1981 08/23/2007 House Of Traps
77 1982 10/18/2007 Five Element Ninja
78 1982 07/06/2006 Weird Man, The
79 1982 08/04/2005 Ode To Gallantry
80 1982 06/23/2005 Brave Archer And His Mate

[Chemical Lemon]

Also, the year column in that list are the years that celestial gave to the movies. In many cases the date of HK release is different, and the logic to what year they assigned to movies is not clear. They are often off by a year or 2, but not always. So the order of the list isn't necessarily the order the movies were shot or released.

[teako170]

Nice post CL.


Mad Boy (this may be an alternate title, I'm not sure what this one is)

This is an alt title for The New Shaolin Boxers.

[fiol]

Shanghai 13


i ve the HK dvd of this one.. i loved the movie.. great MA scenes in this flick!

[Chemical Lemon]

Hey fiol, I didn't know S.13 had a HK dvd. Do you know if this uses the same source as the Ocean Shores version? full screen - pan and scan?

Thanks for the info, I'm not a huge fan of his post-sb stuff, but S.13 is definitely my favorite of the bunch. Would love to see this widescreen.

[fiol]

Hey fiol, I didn't know S.13 had a HK dvd. Do you know if this uses the same source as the Ocean Shores version? full screen - pan and scan?

Thanks for the info, I'm not a huge fan of his post-sb stuff, but S.13 is definitely my favorite of the bunch. Would love to see this widescreen.

distribuited by Garry's Trading Co. and it s 4:3 ^_^, sometimes you can t read the subtitles cause they are cut on both side..anyway i don't know how the OS is but this one is quite crappy..

[Bronx Rican]

I now regret not picking up lesser-known (to me) Venoms films when I had the chance; the DVD's I do own are like comfort food, and I decided I want all of them, even the clunkers. I know it'll take some doing.

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[Chemical Lemon]

distribuited by Garry's Trading Co. and it s 4:3 ^_^, sometimes you can t read the subtitles cause they are cut on both side..anyway i don't know how the OS is but this one is quite crappy..

that's too bad, the OS version is crappy also.

[Blood Sword]

03 1966 04/10/2003 Magnificent Trio, The
04 1967 07/10/2003 Trail Of The Broken Blade, The
05 1967 08/05/2004 One-Armed Swordsman
08 1968 11/03/2005 Flying Dagger, The
09 1968 08/05/2004 Return Of The One-Armed Swordsman
11 1969 11/03/2005 Wandering Swordsman, The
14 1969 06/26/2003 Have Sword Will Travel
15 1970 08/01/2003 Vengeance
16 1970 12/05/2002 Heroic Ones, The
17 1970 01/13/2005 King Eagle
19 1971 08/05/2004 New One-Armed Swordsman, The
20 1971 09/24/2004 Deadly Duo, The
21 1971 03/27/2003 Duel Of Fist
22 1971 12/19/2002 AnonymousHeroes
26 1972 11/23/2006 Trilogy Of Swordsmanship
28 1972 12/18/2003 Boxer From Shantung, The
29 1972 10/02/2003 Water Margin, The
30 1972 09/22/2005 Angry Guest, The
31 1972 08/23/2007 Delightful Forest, The
32 1973 10/18/2007 Pirate, The
33 1973 03/31/2005 Friends
34 1973 10/16/2003 All Men Are Brothers
37 1973 01/23/2003 Blood Brothers
38 1973 02/13/2003 Heroes Two
39 1973 06/26/2003 Delinquent, The
40 1973 03/27/2003 Iron Bodyguard
43 1974 06/08/2006 Shaolin Martial Arts
44 1974 01/15/2004 Five Shaolin Masters
45 1974 04/05/2007 Men From The Monastery
46 1975 02/15/2007 Disciples of Shaolin
48 1975 02/17/2005 Boxer Rebellion
49 1975 09/08/2005 Marco Polo
51 1976 11/04/2004 Shaolin Avengers, The
52 1976 12/22/2005 Magnificent Wanderers
53 1976 04/13/2006 New Shaolin Boxers, The
54 1976 03/13/2003 Shaolin Temple
57 1977 12/18/2003 Invincible Shaolin
58 1977 11/04/2004 Brave Archer, The
59 1978 10/19/2004 Crippled Avengers
60 1978 11/18/2004 Brave Archer Part 2, The
61 1978 12/18/2003 Five Venoms, The
62 1978 09/18/2003 Heaven And Hell
63 1978 08/23/2007 Life Gamble
64 1979 10/18/2007 Shaolin Rescuers
65 1979 08/23/2007 Magnificent Ruffians, The
66 1979 08/09/2007 Kid With The Golden Arm, The
68 1980 12/01/2005 Ten Tigers Of Kwang Tung
69 1980 07/27/2006 Flag Of Iron, The
70 1980 09/28/2006 Rebel Intruders, The
71 1980 11/06/2003 Two Champions Of Shaolin
72 1980 07/07/2005 Legend Of The Fox
73 1981 12/06/2004 Brave Archer Part 3, The
74 1981 12/06/2004 Sword Stained With Royal Blood, The
75 1981 05/24/2007 Masked Avengers
76 1981 08/23/2007 House Of Traps
77 1982 10/18/2007 Five Element Ninja
79 1982 08/04/2005 Ode To Gallantry
80 1982 06/23/2005 Brave Archer And His Mate

Those I have as originals and pick up chinatown kid and killer army/rebel intruders when they are released in USA.Chinatown Kid only is proper version of course...

:bigsmile:

[Sandpalm79]

I now regret not picking up lesser-known (to me) Venoms films when I had the chance; the DVD's I do own are like comfort food, and I decided I want all of them, even the clunkers. I know it'll take some doing.

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What do you mean by "when you had the chance" cant you still get all the ivls basically through yesasia.com and dddhouse etc?

[Bronx Rican]

What do you mean by "when you had the chance" cant you still get all the ivls basically through yesasia.com and dddhouse etc?

My chance mostly refers to the shops in NYC Chinatown, but I was under the impression the out-of-print IVLs are more difficult to locate and are more expensive. I am not a fan of mail ordering, but Yesasia looks like it'll do in a pinch, so thanks. Still a big factor is my constant broke-ness, but my chances are better now.