Ebay Thief....

[whitetigerny]

Ebay Buyer: yenchun2006


$26.99 USD
Jul 17, 2010
YEN-CHUN LEE
XXXXXXXXXXX
eBay Item(s):


If any one here know this $(*#& avoid him. He is a thief. Won a tape on ebay from me. Used paypal and then said he did not get the tape. Damn liar.

I have sent movies all over the world and NONE have been lost. Damaged? Yes. Not Delivered. No.

Ebay and Paypal SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigrogie]

Sorry you got cheated by this Andy Lee.

This guy has been emailing me last few days to buy some DVDs. Your posting just saved me from dealing with this crook!

$26.99 USD
Jul 17, 2010
YEN-CHUN LEE
andylyc@ms53.hinet.net
eBay Item(s):

Shipping address

ANDY LEE
10F-B2, No.105, Kai-Xuan Road,
East Dist.,
Tainan
Tainan City, 701
Taiwan


If any one here know this $(*#& avoid him. He is a thief. Won a tape on ebay from me. Used paypal and then said he did not get the tape. Damn liar.

I have sent movies all over the world and NONE have been lost. Damaged? Yes. Not Delivered. No.

Ebay and Paypal SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shaolin Chamber 36]

I've recently had pleasant experience on eBay. I had won a item in a bid, received it, it was not exactly as stated, missing parts and partially broken. Seller told me to send it back and I would be refunded. I did, not knowing what to expect. A few days later I had the full refund in my paypal account. It was around $175 for the item.

I have been ripped off a few times on eBay, and sadly I never even filed a complaint, simply because it was only a few bucks. I wish I would have now. Sorry to hear about the "crook" you've dealt with WTNY.

[odioustrident]

I've shipped about 150+/- items globally through Ebay and other circuits online. 3 times the items, tracked or not, never reached their destination. Twice to the Slovak Republic and once to England. I don't think I was lied to in any of those cases; postal services everywhere just aren't as professional as we think they are.

I had one instance where the buyer was probably not telling the truth, in the US, but in the other cases I had no reason to be suspicious. If the item was tracked, tracking stopped after it left the US, and if it wasnt tracked I had no proof.

[Rock_Bottom]

Sorry to hear about this...it is a trick that a lot of people overseas use for ebay because using standard mail there is no way to track a package and paypal/ebay will always go in favor of the customer if there is no tracking.

If you are a regular seller, and especially if you are shipping overseas a lot you should really look into Endica (www.endica.com) - I used to run a record mail order and many of my friends still do...you can get tracking (which ebay accepts) with your international packages, pre-printed customs forms as well as a lot of general time saved from managing shipping.

Of course if you are not big time shipping Endica is probably not for you...there are really no other options other than being very careful.

[prinnysquad]

If this guy is pulling a fast one, then it's very poor form. The genre needs trustworthy traders, buyers and sellers, especially since it's niche and some stuff is hard to come across.

[Jack J]

it is a trick that a lot of people overseas


I think it's slightly dangerous to point out people "overseas" as being worse than anybody else. Trust me, there are a lot of eBay criminals in the US. A few months back I won CENTIPEDE HORROR and JUMPING ASH (vhs) from a seller in the US and I never received ANYTHING. Crooks are everywhere. Unfortunately.

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

Sorry but, have you guys ever heard of registered airmail?

Sorry to hear about this...it is a trick that a lot of people overseas use

People overseas? There is no crook in your country? No, the enemy is always foreign...

postal services everywhere just aren't as professional as we think they are.

What do you think they do, steal the packages? There is a very very slim percentage of packages that never reach destination... Even the most beaten down packages make it to destination...

Again, registered airmail = tracking number + signature on reception = less trouble.

[Blood Sword]

You may very well have crook there but I`m sure you are aware that Postman f*cks up sometimes?

2 times stuff I have sent and one time as buyer goods did not reach destination.

Well anyway those are very unfortunate cases no matter if one to blame is postman or your trading partner...

[odioustrident]

What do you think they do, steal the packages? There is a very very slim percentage of packages that never reach destination... Even the most beaten down packages make it to destination...



Items just get lost in system for a number of reasons. I doubt stealing is the most common problem.

Anyone who has sent a number of items overseas is going to eventually find that a package or two is lost. This is a widely recognized fact. The US postal system reimburses you for the shipping fee and estimated value of the package, even if the item was lost by a non-US postal service.

[Rock_Bottom]

I think it's slightly dangerous to point out people "overseas" as being worse than anybody else. Trust me, there are a lot of eBay criminals in the US. A few months back I won CENTIPEDE HORROR and JUMPING ASH (vhs) from a seller in the US and I never received ANYTHING. Crooks are everywhere. Unfortunately.

Sorry dudes...I was not pointing any fingers so no need to get up in arms...that post was at such an early time in the morning for me and I forgot this board is more international the another one I am on...please forgive me. :smile:

Selling records from the US, that was my perspective...and unfortunately yes, there are scammers on every continent, except maybe Antartica I suppose. I've been ripped off by so many people...people as close as my own city and as far away as Japan and all points in between (again, this is selling records). But for each bad experience I have hundreds of good ones...that is way I still trade/buy/sell internationally...99% of the time we are all dealing with good people...just unfortunate it will probably never be 100%.

My point was just for people that are shipping from the states can use that service and get protections that PayPal and ebay do not offer.

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

Seriously.... Ebay scammers.... who are these people??? Does their sad ass life consists of them sitting at home, twirling their moustache, and rubbing their grubby little hands together, plotting and scheming on who they are gonna screw over next?? How do they sleep at night??

These are what I refer to as oxygen thieves! Roughly translated; they don't deserve to live. Bunch of mentally defective cocksmokers!

[bratty]

wow , Rock Bottom, I sell records too .. that's funny. That's how I afford my kung fu (etc) DVDs. One disc goes out about 12 come in sad but funny

anyway I know all about eBay dick cheese and lost packages both. If you are getting paid through Paypal all you need to worry about : US - delivery confirmation (85 cents? or 80?) , overseas: registered mail (12 bucks). If whoever is buying whatever lives in whatever god forsaken country that doesn't offer US registered mail (can't remember the last time this happened but it has happened before!) have them pay you via Western Union or mail you cash.

cheers fellas

[Kung Foolery]

I didn't think there were any shipping options from US to overseas to protect sellers from chargebacks??

As I understand it, registered mail is not enough to protect against chargebacks thru paypal, as there is no tracking available for shipping overseas??

[odioustrident]

I have been reimbursed twice when I sent registered mail overseas and items were apparently lost, checks came from a little office in Kansas :bigsmile:. Didn't think they would cover my shipping fee as well but each time they did! This was from the postal service though.

I thought postal services had some level of international tracking, but it stops when the item reaches a certain country? I would think Paypal doesn't protect you if the tracking ends there unfortunately...

[Kung Foolery]

wow , Rock Bottom, I sell records too .. that's funny. That's how I afford my kung fu (etc) DVDs. One disc goes out about 12 come in sad but funny

anyway I know all about eBay dick cheese and lost packages both. If you are getting paid through Paypal all you need to worry about : US - delivery confirmation (85 cents? or 80?) , overseas: registered mail (12 bucks). If whoever is buying whatever lives in whatever god forsaken country that doesn't offer US registered mail (can't remember the last time this happened but it has happened before!) have them pay you via Western Union or mail you cash.

cheers fellas

I sell records too!!! that's crazy. All over the place, they go: Finland, Japan, Italy, Sweden, France, Canada...

Overseas buyers pay the most for records. I haven't had a bad experience yet.

[Rock_Bottom]

I didn't think there were any shipping options from US to overseas to protect sellers from chargebacks??

As I understand it, registered mail is not enough to protect against chargebacks thru paypal, as there is no tracking available for shipping overseas??

If you are in the US get Endica, seriously.

I stopped my record mail order a couple of years ago...way too much work...but selling all the leftovers has done wonders for my Kung Fu collection. :smile:

[Kung Foolery]

What kinds of records do you guys sell?
(to completely derail the thread)

[bratty]

eh anything I don't want to keep. I had about 5000 at one point , now I have maybe 4000?
send me your want list! ;) :tongue:

[Rock_Bottom]

What kinds of records do you guys sell?
(to completely derail the thread)

I was going to start a thread in general discussion for this...was not sure of the ettiquite so I'll take the hit here.

I ran a Punk/Hardcore music distro for 7 or 8 years...somewhere around 2000 to 2008. It was all new stuff I bought directly from the lables...people all over the world buying and selling...you get a few bad apples from time-to-time but it was another hobby out of love for the music and general scene, not for making money (loosing money, sure...but not making it). :smile:

[make believe]

I was going to start a thread in general discussion for this...was not sure of the ettiquite so I'll take the hit here.

I ran a Punk/Hardcore music distro for 7 or 8 years...somewhere around 2000 to 2008. It was all new stuff I bought directly from the lables...people all over the world buying and selling...

Seeing as thread sort of has already been derailed, might ask what was the distro you ran? I used to be very much into punk (still am to an extent) and used to purchase a lot through mail order through various labels and distros. So I'm just curious.

[fiol]

me too.. can u give me the link via mp? or here....
any crust stuff?