New US Cartoons Starting FRIDAY

[Michael L.]

For US viewers the day after Thanksgiving brings two, maybe three, new, potentially awesome, animated shows!

On HUB, formerly Discovery Kids, GI JOE RENEGADES and TRANSFORMERS PRIME. The HUB website lists GI JOE RENEGADES as starting Friday and TRANSFORMERS PRIME as starting the following Monday, but the Dish Network TV listings says both start on Friday.

GI JOE RENEGADES page:http://www.hubworld.com/gi-joe/shows/renegades
I'm excited when I see the voice talent (Clancy Brown is so underrated) but the visual style is a little too MIB The Series for me.

TRANSFORMERS PRIME page: http://www.hubworld.com/transformers/shows/prime
Transformers dropped just after I was too old and cool for that stuff, so I guess I don't have quite as much interest in this show as GI Joe... but it looks cooler!

Over at the ol' Cartoon Network we have something that my daughters and I have been waiting for (they are still pissed Teen Titans got canceled; my seven year old is planning on marrying Robin someday): YOUNG JUSTICE!

YOUNG JUSTICE trailer: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/index.html?episodeID=8a250ab02c325aa5012c4256c8940 1c0
There isn't anything else on Cartoon Network... probably because they aren't starting the series proper until January.

I don't know about y'all, but this fills out the rest of my Day After Turkey Day plans (along with sleep late, be hungover and try to get a fat online deal on an American Girl doll).

[kaleyboy]

The Transformers one seems to have copied the awful robot designs from the terrible movies. I think I'll stick with remembering the old cartoon instead of this.

[Karlos]

Thanks for the links!

Anything JOE related I'll have to check out.

I've heard many good things about YOUNG JUSTICE - this could be something special. The 6 minute trailer was impressive stuff.

[Michael L.]

So far, DC Animated has pretty good. The only thing I can think of not really liking was The Batman... I mean, when compared to the original Batman: The Animated Series, it is pretty weak!

Yes, I even liked Legion of Super Heroes. I am waiting for boxsets of it and Static Shock!

[ShaOW!linDude]

Thanks, ML.

I knew about the others but not about GI JOE: RENEGADES.
Appreciate the 'heads up'.

[Michael L.]

GI Joe was news to me, too! I'm not sure why it isn't getting more press... except maybe because of crappy live action movie backlash!

[ShaOW!linDude]

GI Joe was news to me, too! I'm not sure why it isn't getting more press... except maybe because of crappy live action movie backlash!


So the live action movie was crappy or the backlash to it was crappy?

I kind of liked the movie myself. I'm waiting on a sequel. ;)

[daisho2004]

So far, DC Animated has pretty good. The only thing I can think of not really liking was The Batman... I mean, when compared to the original Batman: The Animated Series, it is pretty weak!

Michael L. I agree with you on The Batman I thought it was kinda of a let down from the original series as well. I'm looking forward to watching some of these newer cartoons as well. Its funny you notice how they are really making these cartoons geared towards Teenagers and Young Adults now.

[ShaOW!linDude]

Well, I watched the 2 GI JOE eps last night. I wasn't as impressed as I'd hoped to be. The plot was good but I thought the animation was meh. I started watching a Transformers: Prime ep this morning. Never was a Trans-fan but the CGI in this is very clean. Kind of wish JOE had gone this route.

[daisho2004]

TIVO'd them all got to watch them later if I get a chance.

[daisho2004]

I enjoyed the Transformers a lot I thought the CGI was well done and the action scenes were really good. G.I. Joe was so-so.

[Michael L.]

Haven't watched Transformers or GI Joe yet, but my kids and I all liked Young Justice. My seven year old, whose current goal in life is to marry Robin from Teen Titans, was even won over despite this Robin's lack of spiky hair.

I do miss the Puffy Amiyumi Titans theme song... the extended version with the Guitar Wolf solo is pretty darn fine.

[ShaOW!linDude]

I, too, thought the TRANSFORMERS: PRIME eps were really good CGI. The action was solid and even a little kung fu-y.

As for Young Justice? DUDE! Nobody does animation like DC. I don't know if I can be patient enough for the series to start in January and it'll probably be the end of the month to boot. (Love that Teen Titan theme song myself. Oh, great! Now it's stuck in my head. Thanks alot, ML.)

I don't know if any of you are watching the new Avengers cartoon but if not you're missing out. It is rocking! This weekend was a 2 parter titled "Gamma World". There's lots of solid action in this and the animation looks good.

[Michael L.]

ShaOW!linDude, this is for you:

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3+ minutes of J-Pop goodness with DCAU highlights and a special appearance by Guitar Wolf from Guitar Wolf (depending on my mood, my favorite Japanese punk band) and star of Wild Zero!

[ShaOW!linDude]

T...E...E...N...T - I - T...A - N - S...TEEN - TI - TANS! LET'S GO!

That's one of those 'ear-worm' songs! Catchy, catchy, catchy! Love the video!

[Michael L.]

Yeah, I'll admit that it is on my iPod. Of course, so are the soundtracks to Destroy All Monsters and World of Goo and a buttload of German opera. My tastes run wide.

So, I am finally getting around to watching these new toons. GI Joe: Renegades is, as I feared, MIB The Series ugly. However, it was so awesome. The voice acting was top notch and the story was surprisingly good. From the opening commercial from Cobra Industries, I was hooked. BP should probably look at hiring Cobra's PR people! I also find it hilarious that they run the Cobra Industries commercial (complete with "The Hub is a proud supporter of Cobra Industries") during other shows.

I'm watching Transformers Prime now. I really am not a huge Transformers fan in general; I acuatlly associate it with babysitting my younger cousins. Give me Macross or Gundam instead but even I have to admit that hearing the old Optimus Prime voice. Isn't that the guy who did the opening Voltron narration too? I'm not sure I'll watch Transformers Prime long term, but they are saying it is a 5 part miniseries, and I'll stick it out that far.

[ShaOW!linDude]

Okay, I've watched all the Transformers: Prime except for the final ep of the 5 parter which aired tonight.

I like it......animation wise......but I don't know that I'll hang with the series once it goes full-fledged. The mini-series is certainly worth taking in though. All I have to say for part 4 is 3 words: freaking autobot zombies!

[Michael L.]

I know, right? Zombie robots? This is wasted on children.

I'm digging the GI Joe on the run thing but it is so ugly.

[gorhama]

G.I. Joe was fun and action packed but I felt the same way about the animation...looks like the HUB's budget went to Transformers Prime. Speaking of Transformers Prime......great start to he show with references to Unicron and some great action.

Young Justice was a blast and yeah DC's animation on it was superb!!! A lot of the Friday night line up on Cartoon Network has terrific animation quality.

I'm glad I can disguese my excitement for these shows as time to spend with my kids but yeah it's also for me. :tongue:

[ShaOW!linDude]

I'm glad I can disguese my excitement for these shows as time to spend with my kids but yeah it's also for me. :tongue:

Hey, no fair! You're being a good parent and spoiling your inner child at the same time!:tongue:

[daisho2004]

Definitely enjoyed this Transformers series, the Zombie-bots were awesome! Looking forward to the new series in February.

[ShaOW!linDude]

I watched this weekend's "GI Joe: Renegades" ep.

I still don't know. I want to like it, I really do. The animation style still throws me off some what although this weekend's ep didn't bother me so much. (I'm sorry but the women seem to have masculine features or look like severe school-marms. And Scarlett is being depicted as nothing but a nag.)

This Friday is part 1 of Snake-eye's origin. So I'll hang through that. That's the one thing I don't have a problem with. When they animate him in action, it's really good. Not too fast and they have him doing some complex moves.

[Michael L.]

I know, the animation on GI Joe is really a distraction. Transformers is pretty bad ass, though, because zombie robots combine like Voltron to be 10 times cooler than robots or zombies on their own... With my Adult Swim shows in repeats, though, I need my animation fix. I might have to hang with Transformers when it starts in February.

[gorhama]

Hey, no fair! You're being a good parent and spoiling your inner child at the same time!:tongue:


Why yes you are correct!!! Yet another reason why I post here so many positive reinforcements!! :wink:

[ShaOW!linDude]

Watched yesterday's GI JOE: RENEGADES ep which was part 1 of Snake-Eye's origin. It was actually pretty good. The animation is seemed less bothersome. (Must be getting used to it.) Looking forward to part 2.

[Jesse Smooth]

Are these shows on Kids WB or FOX? I know I've been way behind on the cartoon scene. I don't have cable, so a lot of stuff I don't have access to...but I cuppose I can always stram them online.

[Michael L.]

They are on The Hub (GI Joe and Transformers)... they might be online too. The Hub used to be Discovery Kids.

[ShaOW!linDude]

I think Karlos dl's them so he can watch them as he's in the UK. But at that I think he has to wait a day or so before they show up on the 'net. Of course, I may be speaking out of turn here.

[Michael L.]

Discovery has a strong relation with the BBC, but you could be right.

I can't believe how ugly GI Joe is... it is good but the bad animation is a distraction. Also, Major Bludd stole my haircut.

[ShaOW!linDude]

Also, Major Bludd stole my haircut.

You should steal his eye patch and mustache look! That'll teach that evil Cobra mercenary/minion!

[Karlos]

I need to get on the Joe 'toon, I really do.

Can any of you cats tell me, is Snake Eyes' origin anything like the Marvel comics (i.e. his "real" origin), or is it all new story?

[ShaOW!linDude]

You know, I don't think I ever knew the specifics of Snake-Eyes' origin other than he didn't talk because his throat or face was jacked up.

I'd like to pit Snake-Eyes against Deadpool!:tongue:

They're both trained in ninjitsu and automatic weapons but where Snake-Eyes is the silent soldier, Deadpool is the merc with the mouth. Not sure who I'd pull for in that.

[Karlos]

SD, that's a GREAT idea!

I'd love to see a Snake Eyes/Deadpool team up or thrown down!!

[Michael L.]

You should steal his eye patch and mustache look! That'll teach that evil Cobra mercenary/minion!

I actually had a eye get knocked out about 20 years ago, but it went back in. Otherwise I would totally rock the eyepatch.

Karlos: What is Snake Eyes "real" origin? And as opposed to what alternative? The movie? Let's pretend that never happened...

I figure GI Joe's histories are pretty much up to Hasbro over anyone else (it isn't as if GI Joe is sourced from elsewhere; it was a toy first). They are only half way through the story (to be continued this Friday), but he was an Anglo street kid in the town closest to the ninja secret base (why that is... who knows) who got involved in a fight between the heirs to the ninja leadership and some enemies which led to him be adopted into the clan.

[Karlos]

Karlos: What is Snake Eyes "real" origin? And as opposed to what alternative? The movie? Let's pretend that never happened...

The original Marvel comic run showed Snake Eyes as being in a squad during Vietnam along with a few guys who'd go onto be Joes and Storm Shadow.

Snake lost most of his face and his vocal chords in a chopper explosion and he went off to recouperate with Storm Shadow, learning the ways of the ninja.

(This was re-interated in the excellent (and hard to find) mini, SNAKE EYES: DECLASSIFIED.)

As far as I know, this was taken as canon, but I guess if Hasbro want to change it, they are certainly within their rights.

I'm guessing the changes are because it's far too bleak for a 'toon?

[Michael L.]

Yeah, it's different because Vietnam was like 40 years ago... This new Gi Joe is a complete revamp. They are on the run... Flint is actually the solider heading up the operation to find the GI Joe team and Breaker isn't even in the military; he's a hacker.

[Karlos]

Argh, another reboot!! :tongue:

BTW, If you want to read the "real" (to me, anyways!) origin of Snake Eyes, pick up either the Snake Eyes: Classified tpb or Classic GI Joe vol. 3 - great reads.

[Michael L.]

Karlos, are you English? Or Japanese? When I hear (okay, read) the word "canon" in reference to toys, I immediately think I must being dealing with someone either English or Japanese...

Other than that, yeah, another reboot for GI Joe. They are toys and they have to stay current for each generation of kids. I mean, kids today wouldn't even know what to do with the original GI Joes!

[Karlos]

Yes, bro, I'm a Brit!

You're right; GI Joe, like any evergreen franchise, needs reworking for each successive generation to enjoy.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be in the corner, weeping into my old Joe comics... :tongue:

[Michael L.]

Now remember: That was (at best) the second incarnation of GI Joe!

[ShaOW!linDude]

2nd part of Snake-Eyes' origin on GI JOE: RENEGADES was pretty good. This show is growing on me. Both eps of another 2 parter air back to back Dec. 24th.

Watched the latest Avengers ep "The Widow's Sting" which aired this morning. This show is fantastic and today's ep was a babe-fest. The action in this is so much better than I thought it would be. I'm loving it. Don't know if anyone other than Karlos and I are following this. If you're not......you're missing out.

[Michael L.]

I'm not really a Marvel guy... Right now the cartoons I am watching on TV are:

GI Joe Renegades
Transformers Prime (yeah, I'll watch it once it starts again)
Young Justice
Batman Brave and Bold
The Venture Brothers
DBZ Kai
InuYasha (My 9 year old daughter has discovered that Percy Jackson isn't the only modern story built around old myths, so I am re-watching with her)
Phineas and Ferb

[ShaOW!linDude]

I'm not really a Marvel guy...

I'd encourage you to check out a few episodes. The animation and the action are solid and very, very good. Is it a matter of character preference?

I, too, watch THE BRAVE & THE BOLD. The animation sometimes bothers me. (Especially the magenta trim on Bat-everything!) I wish they'd stuck to DC's style of the other animated series. But it does in a pinch. The stories are usually pretty good.

Phineas & Ferb? Yeah, man! That show's pretty funny sometimes. Another great theme song!

Check out FAN-BOY & CHUM-CHUM. I don't know if they're producing them anymore but there are reruns all the time. That show cracks me up, too.

[ShaOW!linDude]

Here's some great news!

YOUNG JUSTICE airs Jan. 7th.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/112625-young-justice-to premiere-january-7

I'm soooooo psyched for this! 2 weeks!

[Michael L.]

Nice. My seven year old was complaining just last night how much she misses Teen Titans. Maybe this will help placate her!

[Yi-Long]

Downloaded both Young Justice and the first episode of the new GI Joe series. Videoquality on both isn't that great, sadly, but what I've seen of both shows so far, looks decent.

[ShaOW!linDude]

On another site it was mentioned that the 1st 2 YOUNG JUSTICE eps will probably be repeats of the hour long ep shown at Thanksgiving. That means a true new ep wouldn't air until Jan. 21st.

I don't know if that will hold true or not. If so, they'll probably have a new intro and show previews for upcoming eps. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I also understand that BATMAN: THE BRAVE & THE BOLD is done after 3 seasons.

[Yi-Long]

On another site it was mentioned that the 1st 2 YOUNG JUSTICE eps will probably be repeats of the hour long ep shown at Thanksgiving. That means a true new ep wouldn't air until Jan. 21st.

I don't know if that will hold true or not. If so, they'll probably have a new intro and show previews for upcoming eps. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I also understand that BATMAN: THE BRAVE & THE BOLD is done after 3 seasons.

I never cared that much about Batman: the Brave and Bold. I can understand what they were doing and on some levels they did a good job with that, but TBH, I just want the Batman from The Animated Series. That's it. Just nice short (mostly) stand-alone stories about Batman, occasionally with Robin or some of his other allies, and against his foes.

That show got Batman just right.

[ShaOW!linDude]

I just want the Batman from The Animated Series. That's it. Just nice short (mostly) stand-alone stories about Batman, occasionally with Robin or some of his other allies, and against his foes.

That show got Batman just right.


It definitely set the standard and I don't think anyone will argue that it is the series by which all others are judged. B: TB&TB was never really a favorite but it did in a pinch and it had other great characters in it. It doesn't break my heart if it's over like it did when B:TAS was ended.