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Daisho2004
11-21-2005, 11:24 PM
JFYI- King Kong Vs Godzilla/King Kong Escapes This 2 pack DVD is coming out on November 29th. the USA release:
zhunaid
11-22-2005, 07:48 AM
is there a website where i can order it from?
Daisho2004
11-22-2005, 02:21 PM
Basically everyone has it coming out Amazon.com, Walmart.com, but the best price is at DeepDiscountDVD.com.
peter cannon THUNDERBOLT
11-22-2005, 06:07 PM
i was wondering if king kong vs gopdzilla was goint to be released or at least reaired on sci-fi now i know thanks
Daisho2004
11-22-2005, 07:29 PM
It's funny I was wondering the samething, but at last the USA release of this movie, and its the 2 pack.
zhunaid
12-03-2005, 05:32 PM
did anyone buy king kong escapes?if so wahts the quality like?
Megaloman
12-05-2005, 05:17 AM
these are some great discs, and you can get them for about $15, a great deal for two movies. whiners and babies keep complaining about the lack of extras or Japanese versions, but don't listen to them.
David
killer meteor
12-06-2005, 12:47 PM
I should think that the Japanese versions are essential for anyone interested in the films, especially since the US version of KKvG is such a botch job so I'd thank you not to call me a baby.
venoms5
12-07-2005, 02:50 AM
Especially since the Japanese versions are approximately 20 minutes longer on both features.
Megaloman
12-07-2005, 03:39 AM
king kong Escapes is only about 10 minutes longer, if that. not sure about Vs Godzilla.
David
killer meteor
12-07-2005, 04:55 PM
You call 10min "only"?
venoms5
12-08-2005, 02:32 AM
The Japanese subbed disc I have of KKE is 106 minutes so about 10 minutes longer but the Japanese subbed KKVG is 16 minutes or more than the US counterpart. It's nice to have them both especially KKE even though I prefer the Japanese version although it's a bit jarring to hear Japanese dubbed over the american actors just like on MONSTER ZERO and FRANKENSTEIN VS BARAGON and its sequel.
Megaloman
12-08-2005, 03:05 AM
according to Stuart Galbraith's book Japanese Science Fiction, Horror and Fantasy, KKE's Japanese version is 104 minutes long, and the US version is 96 minutes. given that the Japanese credits are far more extensive than the US ones, that means the running time is less than 6 minutes difference.
still, i'm happy to have the US version on disc of both movies, they are the ones i grew up with.
David
Ahh, just got this two-pack. Awesome!! Although I would ahve preferred original language, like the awesome recent releases of Varan and The Mysterians by Media Blasters, the widescreen anamorphic transfers on these are just so nice. Man, this has been a great last couple of years for Region 1 releases of Japanese sci-fi/kaiju
Chinatown Kid
12-17-2005, 04:26 PM
I heard the rumor that in the Japanese version of King Kong vs. Godzilla that Godzilla wins at the end. This doesn't make sense though because Godzilla is the villain in both versions. Any body know if this rumor is true or false? This was one of my favorite monster movies as a kid so I'm gonna definately get the new U.S. version with KKE. Also, can anybody tell me the best site to order the Japanese versions? Really would like to see the extra footage. Also would like to know the best version of Frankenstien Conquers the World to get, it was also one of my favorites.:)
Megaloman
12-17-2005, 06:43 PM
there are some sad Godzilla fans who can't accept their hero losing, but even Toho, in press materials at the time, say Kong wins. there's never been any other ending. in the Japanese version you hear both monsters roar at the end, but that is a "bow" to the audience, nothing more.
David
Chinatown Kid
12-17-2005, 08:06 PM
Thanks for that info Megaloman.
Megaloman
12-17-2005, 08:15 PM
my pleasure.
the Japanese version IS a better movie, overall, than the US one, but i love the US one as much, since it was the first Godzilla movie i ever saw.
David
The one thing that struck me about the US version of G vs.KK is the lack of the usual Ifukube musical score. That was a disappointment to me, as I just love his music in the toho kaiju movies, the Daimajins, and the Zatoichis. Was the score different in the Japanese version?
Also, the great Ifukube score WAS there in King Kong Escapes. Man, this movie is one of my guilty pleasures and one of my favorites of all the Toho kaiju movies! :)
limubai2000
12-19-2005, 03:53 AM
I just ordered this pack based on you guy's recommendations.
I'd wager that zilla loses to KK because the Japanese wanted some payback after getting b*tch slapped in the original Godzilla. :rollin
Anyone know if Godzilla Raids Again will see the light of day on R1? I have a DVDR fansub of it but would like to upgrade.
Megaloman
12-19-2005, 04:20 AM
Hopefully the US version GIGANTIS THE FIRE MONSTER will be released sometime in the near future. rumor has it that it will have both language tracks on it.
David
venoms5
12-19-2005, 01:46 PM
Check out out far east flix for FRANKENSTEIN VS BARAGON aka FRANK...CONQUERS THE WORLD. The Japanese version is much different than the US version. Particularly in the US version the Frankenstein monster is shown as being much more vicious as several different shots were filmed for the american market. The japanese disc features the different scenes as a special feature and also contains the alternate ending of the giant octopus coming ashore and dragging the Frank. Monster into the sea. The far east flix DVD is an excellent port of the Japanese disc with proper english subtitles.
Megaloman
12-19-2005, 03:21 PM
it is still a boot though. chances are Media Blasters will be releasing this in the near future.
David
venoms5
12-19-2005, 03:35 PM
What difference does that make? It's a professionally made boot compared to many other boots out there and even if MB puts it out the subs may not be a direct translation from the Japanese text. Regardless, it's the only way to get it right now subtitled.
Chinatown Kid
12-19-2005, 03:39 PM
Thanks for the info guys.:)
Megaloman
12-19-2005, 04:15 PM
it only makes a difference if you worry that you are stealing property from Toho, i guess. i'm sure Far East Flix are nice people, but i doubt they licensed the movie from Toho.
David
Chinatown Kid
12-19-2005, 11:54 PM
Was their a sequel to Frankenstein Conquers the World? If there is I would like to see it too.8)
Megaloman
12-20-2005, 02:49 AM
the sequel is WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS, also rumored to be coming out on legit DVD in the near future.
David
Chinatown Kid
12-20-2005, 03:09 PM
Thanks alot Megloman. I'll definately pick up the legit's when they come out, but I went ahead and ordered both the Frankenstein movies from FarEastFlix because you never know for sure if they will come out. At 15$ a piece it seemed like a good deal.;) I seen at yesasia they were selling Frankenstein vs Baragon for over 60$, and it didn't even have subs!:eek
mcentepede
12-21-2005, 01:17 AM
I have the movie on VHS, which I own for the past maybe 17 years. Every one of my buddies who watched it agreed that Godzilla wins. VHS is a dead technology maybe, but it is reliable. The ending in question is simple, after absorbing a terrible beating from a stronger Godzilla, King Kong tackles a weakened Godzilla(The Japs found out that Godzilla's lone weakness is electricity, which they used to weaken him) and both fall into the ocean. King Kong resurfaces yes, but a shot of a figure swimming away is seen which is obviously Godzilla, so he wasn't dead or anything. By this time he already "won" the fight anyways. Americans don't like to lose to Japanese was the theme here. My buddy agreed that the DVD version omitted the last shot to make it look like Kong killed Godzilla, which is stupid because he made more movies anyways. Also 2005 King Kong had him beating up some dinosaurs, too bad none were Godzilla.
venoms5
12-21-2005, 03:09 AM
The english version omits a couple of scenes that link FRANK... with WAR OF... Also the Japanese title is FRANKENSTEIN MONSTERS:SANDA VS GAILA. According to the excellent book MONSTERS ARE ATTACKING TOKYO! Actor Russ Tamblyn was not as easy to get along with as Nick Adams as he apparently didn't feel comfortable working on a Japanese giant monster movie. Probably the best book to look out for if you can still find it(if you're interested in reading up on the subject of giant monster cinema) is JAPANS FAVORITE MON"STAR":THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY OF THE BIG G. An exhaustive work on every G film up to DESTROYER. There probably won't be a revised edition as Toho got a court injunction to take the tome out of circulation.
Chinatown Kid
12-21-2005, 03:20 PM
Thanks venoms5, I'll see if I can track the book down. I'm just starting to get into these Japanese monster movies so I need all the info I can get! I'm gonna start collecting them to go along with my martial arts and Hammer horror collection. I also ordered KK vs. G/ KKE at amazon.com, don't know where to get the Japanese versions. FarEastFlix doesn't have those two.
Megaloman
12-21-2005, 03:32 PM
i have a nice DVDr of KING KONG VS GODZILLA the japanese version, complete with removable subs if you'd like one. send me a PM or e-mail.
the ending is exactly the same as the US version, with Kong swimming away. Godzilla is nowhere to be seen. when i saw it in the theater growing up every kid in the audience knew Godzilla lost.
David
Chinatown Kid
12-21-2005, 03:58 PM
Check your inbox Megaloman, thanks.:)
mcentepede
01-10-2006, 05:58 AM
Whatever...Everybody on this site says that King Kong wins. Nobody here describes how he wins though. Probably because Godzilla was the villian and Kong "resurfaces" from the ocean. Too bad Godzilla is amphibous and swam away to fight another day. Godzilla rules! King Kong fools!
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