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Markgway
10-15-2005, 03:19 PM
If anyone can spot any errors or omissions please post. Some titles have yet to have confirmed release dates. Some titles not found at the HKFA have been listed under copyright years where known.
1974
Call Me Dragon
Kidnap in Rome
1975
Anti-Corruption
1976
The Secret Rivals
1977
The Secret Rivals, Part 2
What Price?...Stardom
1978
Erotic Dream of the Red Chamber
Snake in the Eagle's Shadow
Drunk Monkey in the Tiger's Eyes
1979
Dance of the Drunk Mantis
The Butterfly Murders
1980
We're Going to Eat You
Lackey and the Lady Tiger
The Ring of Death
Two Fists Against the Law
Without a Promised Land
1981
The Sweet and Sour Cops
1982
Legend of a Fighter
The Sweet and Sour Cops, Part 2
Ninja in the Dragon's Den
1983
Gun is Law
1984
Host For a Ghost
Two For the Road
1985
The Unwritten Law
No Retreat, No Surrender
1987
Raging Thunder
1988
Mr. Mistress
Walk on Fire
1989
Blood Brothers
1990
All For the Winner
The King of the Kickboxers
1991
American Shaolin
1992
Dragon Inn
1993
Green Snake
1995
Superfights
1996
Evening Liason
Bloodmoon
1999
Deja Vu
Special Thanks to Falkor and Linn for their assistance. :)
falkor
10-15-2005, 04:05 PM
We're Going to Eat You (c1980)
No Year:
American Shaolin = 1991
Blood Brothers = 1989
Bloodmoon = 1996
Call Me Dragon
Kidnap in Rome
Superfights = 1995
Unconfirmed:
The Invincible Armour (1977) = Lai Wah Film Company (independent)
Little Super Man (1975)
Hitman in the Hand of Buddha = Hwang Jang Lee Production Company (independent)
falkor
10-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Head Hunter (c1982)
Deja Vu (c1999)
?
falkor
10-15-2005, 04:11 PM
Little Super Man (1975) = Eternal Film Co
falkor
10-15-2005, 04:20 PM
Raging Thunder = 1987
falkor
10-15-2005, 04:26 PM
King of the Kickboxers = 1990
Chen Zhen
10-15-2005, 05:26 PM
awesome....thanx for the info markgway & falkor.
looks like i gotta find butterfly murders next..
Violento
10-15-2005, 06:18 PM
What abut Drunken Master? :)
Chen Zhen
10-15-2005, 06:23 PM
What abut Drunken Master?
Drunk Monkey in the Tiger's Eyes = alternate name for Drunken Master
Markgway
10-15-2005, 11:13 PM
Raging Thunder = 1987
King of the Kickboxers = 1990
I know that's when the films were copyrighted, but according to the IMDB (yeah, I know!!) the US releases were 1989, 1991. I don't think they were shown theatrically in Asia despite being HK movies, which is why for the English language films I've used (or tried to) USA dates. In retrospect, I think you're right, we should list the films under copyright date if no HK theatrical date is available.
Markgway
10-15-2005, 11:26 PM
Falkor, you were nag on about WE'RE GOING TO EAT YOU and DEJA VU. I missed those the first time because the company listing was slightly altered. Thanks for the direction.
I checked upon THE HEAD HUNTER however, and the production company listed for that is New Century. Can I ask what made you think it was Seasonal?
falkor
10-16-2005, 07:19 AM
I know that's when the films were copyrighted, but according to the IMDB (yeah, I know!!) the US releases were 1989, 1991. I don't think they were shown theatrically in Asia despite being HK movies, which is why for the English language films I've used (or tried to) USA dates. In retrospect, I think you're right, we should list the films under copyright date if no HK theatrical date is available.
This goes back to my discussion with Ralph Allen. Filmographies should reflect what year each films was "made", ie. completed, rather than what year each film was released (released where?)
Black Mask, a HK production, was released first in the UK!
I think it's accepted that the year films were "copyrighted" is also the year post production was completed, and when you compare this year to any Year of Release, the coprighted date is either the same or 1-2 years earlier to give a more accurate year. BTW, you've listed Raging Thunder a year earlier, even before the copyrighted year.
I checked upon THE HEAD HUNTER however, and the production company listed for that is New Century. Can I ask what made you think it was Seasonal?
HKMDB
Chen Kuan Tai
10-16-2005, 11:00 AM
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Markgway
10-16-2005, 02:08 PM
Falkor, you were nag on about
That should've read "BANG on". I'm getting dyslexic I think! :eek
Markgway
10-16-2005, 02:12 PM
This goes back to my discussion with Ralph Allen. Filmographies should reflect what year each films was "made", ie. completed, rather than what year each film was released (released where?) Black Mask, a HK production, was released first in the UK! I think it's accepted that the year films were "copyrighted" is also the year post production was completed, and when you compare this year to any Year of Release, the coprighted date is either the same or 1-2 years earlier to give a more accurate year.
For me I use copyright date first as it's ON THE FILM, then date of HK release; if a movie has neither it's only a calculated guess. I like to be accurate where possible. :)
BTW, you've listed Raging Thunder a year earlier, even before the copyrighted year.
Editing mistake. Thx for pointing it out.
Markgway
10-16-2005, 02:16 PM
I don't have access to the HKMDB so I can't check.
Markgway
10-16-2005, 09:19 PM
"Confirmed, but no given year:
Call Me Dragon
Kidnap in Rome"
...still nothing on these??
John Charles at digHKmovies lists THE HEAD HUNTER as a Seasonal/New Century co-production. The HKFA makes no mention of Seasonal that I could see (might check again...) Does anyone have a poster with the Seasonal logo on it or something? Has anyone SEEN the film with a Seasonal logo...?
Also if Ng See Yuen founded Seasonal in 1973 how come later movies he was involved with like Bruce Lee: The Man, The Myth for eg. are (or appear not be?) Seasonal films.
falkor
10-18-2005, 05:21 AM
There's a magazine article for We're Going To Eat You in Cinemart's April issue from 1980, so I guess there's a very good chance it was completed that same year, backing up the HKMDB year you already have listed.
Markgway
10-18-2005, 06:15 PM
WGTEY is listed as being released April 2nd, 1980. So an April issue of Cinemart would be bang on! :D
You don't happen to have any mid-70s issues that cover Call Me Dragon or Kidnap in Rome do you?
falkor
10-18-2005, 06:30 PM
You don't happen to have any mid-70s issues that cover Call Me Dragon or Kidnap in Rome do you?
No, otherwise I would have said something; you should know me better! I'm not one of those secretive US citizens, who keep everything to themselves. I wonder what hit the Pentagon on 9/11? It certainly wasn't a Boeing 757... :lol
Linn1
10-26-2005, 02:46 AM
"Also if Ng See Yuen founded Seasonal in 1973 how come later movies he was involved with like Bruce Lee: The Man, The Myth for eg. are (or appear not be?) Seasonal films."
He did it and a few others as favors for debts he had.
Markgway
10-26-2005, 03:21 AM
OK, Linn. Thanks.
The HK film industry it seems is built on "favours". ;)
You don't happen to have dates for Call Me Dragon and/or Kidnap in Rome do you...?
I figure both were released circa 1974, but am not sure which is officially the first Seasonal Film?
Linn1
10-26-2005, 10:23 PM
Call Me Dragon by a wide margin. It was released in January of 74 in Hong Kong, while Kidnap in Rome was released in 1976.
Markgway
10-26-2005, 10:52 PM
Cheers, Linn.
I'll amend the filmography accordingly. :)
If you want some more infos about Seasonal and Ng See Yuen, read the last interview of Roy Horan on hkcm :
www.hkcinemagic.com/en/page.asp?aid=197 (http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/page.asp?aid=197)
;)
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