Be Careful what and who you trade with

[strutr74]

MPAA is on to a few places. Rumor has it this is one along with 5 or 6 others. JFYI From my understanding some new laws have been in the works and people want action. I think it has to do more with "fakes" being sold?, They just did a sweep in Downtown LA. you should see all the crap down there, Every title you can imagine, all bogus. I never buy the crap myself but for 5-10 bucks you can get box sets ect!!! Most are bootleg taiwan stuff but ALOT are just dvdrs with a com scan of artwork. Everything you can think of, Shaws, BCIs, Animeigo, Criterion.. You name it it's there.

Here's some being crushed, I guess?

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/422/bootlegsan8.jpg

[silver hermit]

they have been doing sweeps more regular here as well good to see. an untold amount of legit stores have closed down in the last 2 years due to these bootlegs.
as for being careful who i trade with since this forum's partial crackdown last year and the pondscum that has started trading here has forced me to be waaaay more selective .

[dndcollect]

They must have been selling bootlegs of American films. The MPAA is Buena Vista Pictures Distribution (The Walt Disney Company), Sony Pictures, Paramount Pictures (Viacom -- which bought DreamWorks in February 2006), 20th Century Fox (News Corporation), Universal Studios (NBC Universal), and Warner Bros. (Time Warner).

I doubt they are doing raids for bootlegs of companies that are not part of the MPAA.

Where are you getting your info? Do you have any links?

I know that the MPAA is cracking down on piracy, but I cant see them cracking down and helping companies that are not part of their group.

[Markgway]

I don't buy bootlegs and have no interest in copying/trading/selling/downloading any movie from a major studio. If you follow that you should be fine as that's all the MPAA care about.

[dndcollect]

I would say that most if not all the movies I want that a major studio owns the rights to has a solid release, many times with extras, etc.

This genre is one of the few where a bootleg company might have a better version that what is officially available, and fortunatly it looks like Dragon Dynasty is going to change that.

But the part that I cant wrap my mind around is why would the MPAA police kung fu forums for traders of kung fu movies? What kung fu movies do they even own? Weintstein is not part of the MPAA. Hell, if he was I would think that they would try to do something about Red Sun. That sounds like some alarmist bs or someone trying to freak people out.

I will be stunned to read in a paper that someone got in trouble for trading a copy of To Kill a Mastermind.

[silver hermit]

i would agree normaly but there seems to be some snitching going on. perhaps there is people that are upset by dvd r trading or redsun boots or whatever. there has been a voicing of that opinion around these parts but only towards certain members other members are free to do as they wish and break every rule mods try to bring in not sure why?

[dndcollect]

Silver, i think we are on 2 different planets here. sorry if i am not understanding you.


are you saying that there are people telling the MPAA about redsun and because of that, they are busting kung fu forums and traders?

i dont think that is possible because celestial nor dd or image are part of the MPAA. in addition, given the fact that redsun is even showing up in blockbuster and suncoast, i think that its clear that nothing is being done.

from what the original poster posted, it seems as though the MPAA is raiding flee markets and open market areas that are selling bootlegs, however while some of these people may have been selling redsuns, i find it almost impossible to believe that they also were not selling bootlegs of the major studios that make up the mpaa.

there is definatly a crackdown of piracy of MPAA movies, but i have yet to see any type of action or crackdown against bootleg kung fu movies, in fact not only has there not been a crack down, it is even worse with them showing up in Suncoast, FYE, and Blockbuster recently.

[strutr74]

I can't find the links, but I think it was CNN? Hermit is also right as well.
Alot of Snitches on this site and others. But thats just a small factor, They actually troll around looking. After all that stuff with " The Trolls" contacting Animeigo on me for swapping their titles. Anything is possible. I removed all their stuff off my trading list, not worth the headache. I'm just giving a heads up, do your stuff in private...Thats my opinion!!! Dnd also all those companies little gigs are covered as well. It looks to me like even if they go on a raid and find ANY kind of bootleg, from anyone, it's getting taken and trashed. These guys are pissed..lol

[dndcollect]

Someone reported you to Animego for TRADING?!?!?!

Wow, that is about as low as you can get!

I dont doubt that they trash everything if they are on a raid, hell any type of raid it seems like they love to destroy stuff.

However trashing it among what they are there in the fist place for is different than seeking out sellers or traders because of just kung fu movies, etc. i would be suprised if they did that, hell they would have to start raiding blockbuster and suncoast.

i will look around cnn.

wow, i still cant believe someone did that to you. what did animego say? did you tell them you were just trading?

[strutr74]

Oh Hell, you never heard the story? Yeah one of the low lifes from ninja dojo contacted them and said I was SELLING copies of their dvds. Not True what so ever. The owner sent me a stop order, and I was like WHAT?? Then I told him I was only trading, I never sold crap ever, But trading falls into bootlegging, so he said. So I removed their titles from my trades. I know EXACTLY who contacted them as well. I was told who...You know who you are, and I hope your mama gets cancer and rots in hell, you lying bastard!!!

Funny thing tho, This person is a Dojo Brown nose, but CK sells Animeigo bootlegs on his site...See how that works??? Funny!!!
Thats why I can't stand those guys over there. I blasted them, and called them all out, slapping them all around...but they couldn't take it and cried and made up lies. Cry babies!!!! My verbal skillz broke them down, so they ran off with their tails between their legs. Chumps the whole lot of them...Heres something funny. they hate scabs, but i just bought 5 dvds off one of their forum members, from ebay....LMAO, And it wasn't the main guys...their own posters don't even like their politics...Funny I wanted to add also, When the whole lies went down with Animeigo, I had a total of 3 of their movies, all bought from Frys...And never even traded let alone sold one copy of any of the 3...Thats why I was so bent man...Fing liars..as far as I'm concerned my list at the time was for MY personal Reference.

[dndcollect]

do you know where you got the pictures you listed?

[silver hermit]

Silver, i think we are on 2 different planets here. sorry if i am not understanding you.

its ok, i think you do understand me, its just that you are locked into a mode of thinking that blocks out everything else. nothing wrong with it lets just say your very focused


are you saying that there are people telling the MPAA about redsun and because of that, they are busting kung fu forums and traders?

see you do understand me :)

in my city they have been busting places that sell shaw bootlegs. 2 summers ago there was dvd 9 exact copies of celestials. 5 for 20$ now there is no sign of those boots. they have raided 3 times in the last 6 months. so they do take non mpaa stuff too. flea markets have been getting raided too.

[dndcollect]

do you have any news links, etc?

what town is this?

they are busting people for selling shaws and not anything else?

any of the raids of flea markets or raiders in general have always included either music, movies from major studios or counterfiet Nikes, etc.

i find that hard to believe but not impossible of course.

maybe celestial joined the mpaa or something.

im not sure what you meant when you said "you are locked into a mode of thinking that blocks out everything else. nothing wrong with it lets just say your very focused"

My thinking is that I am looking for proof of some of the claims here. Thats all. I find it hard to believe that the MPAA is helping a company that it has no vested buisness interest with. Basicly what is being said is that the MPAA will bust you for requesting a copy of to kill a mastermind. that makes no sense to me.

[silver hermit]

the police do not need to ask the mpaa if they can raid for illegal material. its their job to enforce the law and investigate illegal activity despite in whos interest it is. but i will try to find links for you.
if you seen how many bootleg stores there are here you wouldn't belive it(they outnumber legit stores 40 to 1). most are run by organized crime inported by the container from asia. triads are very active here.

[dndcollect]

see i do think we are on different planets because i am talking about the MPAA and the raids they are doing because of what the original poster wrote.

i believe you, however there are other facters involved with the busts going on in your town.

what i am specificlly talking about is what the OP said and that is the MPAA is monitoring these forums looking to bust people for trading kung fu movies.

and my argument is that i think it is unlikely the MPAA would do celestials work for them or any other company that is not part of the MPAA.


i notice you use the term triad, you in a town near a chinatown, like philly, or ca?

[Markgway]

The owner sent me a stop order, and I was like WHAT?? Then I told him I was only trading, I never sold crap ever, But trading falls into bootlegging, so he said.

"Bootlegging is an informal term for smuggling, sale or transport of illicit goods."

Were these goods illicit? NO

So you can tell them all to go @#%$ themselves. :hat

[strutr74]

LOL, No I like Animeigo, I'm not a wise ass like that. What got me so pissed like I said above. I only had 3 of their titles at the time, and hadn't even watched 2 of them, they were still sealed in my " to watch pile" Kinda hard to sell copies of sealed product...LOL, Dojo Couldn't handle me calling them out for being bootleggers and resorted to childish crap like that. It's over now, But just the whole headache was a pain. I emailed Robert( Anime) a few times back and worth and he explained alot of stuff I was unaware of, So it all worked out. Just a whole stupid childish games those guys play over there on Dojo. Very mature, That really keeps customers and fans around...Talk about bad customer service..lol, Now I just buy CK stuff from ebayers. They won't get my dime..I'd rather give it to someone who actually treats their buyers with respect..and not act like 10 year olds, whos transformer was taken by a bigger kid:)

Oh, DND it's the mpa...I put mpaa, wrong outfit. I was looking for the link, it was emailed to me and I trashed it. I emailed the guy who sent it to me asking for him to send it again...If he does I'll post it.

[dndcollect]

oh, the MPA i think works outside of the US. the pictures looked like a raid in Tawain that is why i asked.

[strutr74]

DND-Thats Hong Kong in the pictures.

[silver hermit]

hong kong is very strict on bootlegs thats no surprise

[dndcollect]

yeah they are really cracking down in hong kong. i think partly because the US is threatning them. they even are training dogs to sniff out boots, although they say real dvd's smell the same.

you live in Hong Kong silver?

[Dahnamics]

they even are training dogs to sniff out boots, although they say real dvd's smell the same.
hahahha :rollin

[andras]

There was a crackdown on Chinese bootleg stores over here some years ago and a couple of people from the FBI were on the case (no doubt the MPAA was involved too),the problem wasn't Chinese movies (kung fu stuff),but copies of major Hollywood pictures being manufactured onto VCD.
They didn't really do much about Chinese bootlegging until the majors began lobbying.
And yes,it was triad related.