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HANZOSTEEL
05-29-2007, 09:39 PM
www.kurotokagi.com/ (http://www.kurotokagi.com/)
Hello could someone inform me about the films at Kurotokagi.com? I see some rare samurai
films there could someone tell me if those films they are releasing have menus or if they go
straight into the film. Im asking this to someone who really knows and has bought films from
there before.
Thank you
Dahnamics
05-29-2007, 09:52 PM
they're bootlegs, but they got some good stuff. look closely if ur gonna order to see if the title is "tv broadcast quality" cuz if it is it is recorded from hawaiian television and not a dvd rip. peep this thread.
p081.ezboard.com/fkungfuf...1030.topic (http://p081.ezboard.com/fkungfufandomfrm25.showMessage?topicID=1030.topic)
HANZOSTEEL
05-29-2007, 10:19 PM
OK, but do the DVD'S have menu's or go straight into the movie no menu?
Thank You
Daisho2004
05-29-2007, 10:28 PM
HanzoSteel, some of his movies have menu's bio's etc. as stated in the earlier thread some of the movies are from a Hawaiian TV Broadcast , and some are remastered from a new print.
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
05-29-2007, 11:06 PM
HANZOSTEEL, this is a trustworthy and prompt website. I've ordered from this site a few times and have nothing but good things to say about them. I just got a Hideo Gosha flick called Cash Calls Hell, a Tatsuya Nakadai film. Haven't watched it yet, but it looks like it's gonna deliver. A Tetsuro Tanba film called Assassination looks pretty damn cool.
Dahnamics
05-29-2007, 11:25 PM
read the descriptions on the site, itll say whether they have menus or not.. the ones i have with menus look pretty pro
HANZOSTEEL
05-30-2007, 12:33 AM
They have some of the coolest covers to movies ive ever seen, they have so many movies i
wouldnt mind seeing! Thanks guys.
RANDY1974
05-30-2007, 02:51 AM
Head over to www.ninjadojo.com Hanzo, its a site where we support vendors like Kurotokagi, samuraidvd, fareast, and mainstream companies like Animeigo, Media Blasters and more....
All covers are custom made usually using very rare japanese movie poster books, programs and photos, most DVD's have full menu's, removable subs, actor bios and histories, stills and trailers for coming releases.All quality is given up front, from TV broadcast to remastered animorphic, 60% of the films were never available subtitled before on that site as well as samuraidvd.com, if you join up at ninjadojo you get special discounts and newsletter specials as well.
Seriously before the bashing begins, i can reccomend some titles wholeheartedly :
       
BOHACHI, CLAN OF THE FORGOTTEN EIGHT
Bohachi Bushido - 1973 - Color - 16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen - Removable subtitles and extras, action, blood, women and Testsuro Tanba, never before subtitled on DVD, with a great price of $15.00!
NINJA HUNT, ASSASSINATION, are highly reccomended as well theres a ton of great flix and the orders are handled n a professional and fast manner.
Daisho2004
05-30-2007, 04:27 AM
I agree with "Randy1974" 110%
NINJA HUNT, ASSASSINATION, are highly reccomended
Assassination, this movie is aka Ansatsu?
inchilottaP
05-30-2007, 02:50 PM
Assassination, this movie is aka Ansatsu?
Yup, skip CK's version and get the UK dvd though.
Much better.
RANDY1974
05-30-2007, 04:51 PM
Inchilotta may be right , i haven't viewed the Eureka Region Pal, disc of Ansatsu, but i know Ansatsu from Ck is masterdc from japanese DVD.
There are some other incredible films there as well, the Red Peony series, and Yagyu Chronicles 1-5!
HANZOSTEEL
05-30-2007, 10:39 PM
Are all their covers for the most part the orignal posters? Where do they get all this stuff. Fascinating
films ive seen a few of them but not many. One of my favorite's is Under the Blossiming Cherry Trees.
inchilottaP
05-31-2007, 01:21 PM
Are all their covers for the most part the orignal posters? Where do they get all this stuff. Fascinating
Most Japanese releases of old school stuff uses the original poster art.
OT but shame Celestial couldn't follow suit. :(
strutr74
05-31-2007, 07:38 PM
Off topic, But I'm wondering. Why Do you guys from Dojo always come over here talking about" Come over here, shop here" Ect!!! But if someone comes over to Dojo and does the same thing you all get all pissy and delete the posts???? Just wondering??? Sounds a little hypocritical if you ask me...
Daisho2004
05-31-2007, 08:17 PM
strutr74, I can answer this one for you, I started out on this site 1st. but there really isn't that many people here who know there stuff about Samurai/Ninja movies unless you want to talk about Lone Wolf & Cub all the time, as for myself I just like to give people info on Samurai/Ninja movies etc. and get a little feedback also. Believe me there are a lot of people here that have come over to the Dojo and are very happy they did, I also like to discuss "General Info" and "Kung-Fu" movies, so that is why I post here, I respect the rules of the sites that I'm on and that's that, if someone wants to trade then just do it where it is suppose to be done at, or in private. but you get very twisted and take things very personal which I can't understand if you support certain sellers that's fine you are entitled to how you feel, but you really shouldn't try to kill a thread when people are asking serious questions and looking for certain movies which you've done a lot of times but I won't get into that type of discussion because that is not why I'm here.
And you also stated that you go to the Dojo to find out info using different names so what does that say about you???? Answer because you want to know the latest info also.
RANDY1974
05-31-2007, 08:27 PM
Just wondering,
Because most of us at the dojo could really educate someone on Jidai, ive been collecting for almost 20 years and i used to come here a lot too till some bozo'z showed up over here and acted like children all the time.I don't ever remember any mods or forum admins getting pissy about anyone directing someone to post or check out KFF, in fact we have always had a lot of the same posters on both boards.We don't tolerate scavs, or trading in open on the forum although we have always ststed that anyone wanting to trade with other members should do so thorugh PM's and not on the board.
The deleted posts are the responsability of whatever moderator decides to do so.Its our board, so our rules.I was just stating that someone new to jidai cinema could learn a lot more at Ninjadojo than here on KFF, if you wanted to learn about Shaw Bros. films or Kung Fu flix, this is a great board, probably the best there is on the whole net.But i can say that no other forum has as much combined knowledege of Japanese samurai, ninja and yakuza films as the dojo.
strutr74
05-31-2007, 09:40 PM
I already stated " OFF Topic" I'm not trying to hi-jack this thread. But Know one has answered the Question I've asked. You said you don't like scavs and thats fine and dandy. I could care less, thats another issue. I'm willing to drop "example" $40 to an ebay scav for the Ninja series then the $240 that Merlin wants. Supply and Demand. I could care less who or where it came from. I still have $200 bucks left. Get my point? My point was you guys come here and post links' where to buy" but if someone comes over to Dojo and posts a link to say Ebay ect!!!! It gets removed fast as lightning. I totally understand why, you want your guys to get the sale, but whats wrong with trying to save someone some$$$$$$ If you post here where to buy, same should be allowed over on that site??? Right???
And Dash you are right, I do use Dojo for reference. I have for A LONG time. Until I got fed up with all the B.S and posted my OPINIONS. You know the story there. Then THE REAL children came out. Made up horrible lies to a legit company saying I was selling copies of there movies. I have NEVER sold copies of ANY movie EVER and never will. And tried to get a bunch of stuff started because I made you upset. But my opinions then were DEAD on. Everyone knows it. It's you guys won't face the reality.
The funny thing tho, even after all that stuff went down CK is selling copies of the same companies movies on his site. Plus other companies stuff. I never even sold ANYTHING so that pretty much makes a few people over there hypocrites, doesn't it? but thats another story.
If you all had a problem with me swapping Cks titles you could have said so. Not went to the lenths to make up lies and stuff because I pissed you off. Grow up. Thats why I WILL not support CK by buying ANY movie off him. Even if it hasn't been on TV or subbed yet. TV stuff I get anyways. Most of it's already subbed. But few people know that already. Also most of the Subs for movies are online anyways, anyone with basic authoring knowledge can lay them down over a movie. I know CK has done this as well;) Anyway, Something big should be in the works soon. You might have some comp when it comes to forums.
Not my doings but a little bird says a new samurai forum is in the works. From THE ONLY person whom I trust movie, history info from.
Keep ya posted:)
RANDY1974
05-31-2007, 10:09 PM
you sure are bitter, firstly we support all legit companies firstly and stress to buy legitimate releases before ever purchasing a fansubbed copy, we have had animeigo on board and guys from other sites as well as authors and film historians.Up until a year ago the site was not even sponsored by a vendor, and we still accurately disect and critique all films wether they come from Ck, or Animeigo.We discuss, subtitle quality, picture quality and other aspects as well, as afr as all that other smack you talk, i don't have a freakin clue what your talking about. I must say for a Kiss fan that im assuming is the same age as me (the 74), you sure do stress far to much about what you think we do over at the dojo. What i have been and many other over there have been doing is supporting this genre and those that make available films that otherwise would never haev been seen with english subtitles....We have been doing that wholeheartedly before it became "hip" to like samurai films or even know what the Lone wolf and Cub series was outside of Shogun executioner.
Daisho2004
05-31-2007, 10:11 PM
strutr74, I'm going to answer your question yes $240 is a lot of money when you can get if off an eBay Scav. But in truth if it wasn't for Guys like Merlin & CK the scavs would never have those movies, so I do see you point it is all about saving money, but the flip side to the coin is without them you would never have those movies in the 1st. place! And Merlin has lowered his prices but if we don't show support they will stop doing them and believe me you & I both now that almost half of those movies will never see the light of day, from a legit company and that really sucks for us who love the genre. Now as far as CK selling their titles, CK might of had them before they were put out in a legit release, and if he has a movie from a Hawaiian TV Broadcast it will state it so there is never any hidden agendas there.
As far as your dispute with them I've heard it before from everyone other there on and off the board but you know what I really don't care nothing about that, all I like to do is talk about movies and get feedback period. I don't have time for any BS I get enough of that from work. So yes if people ask me where to get a certain movie I will steer them towards Merlin, CK & FarEastFlix. And there are some sellers who I've bought from on eBay but not movies that I can get from our Guys here. So yes I will post new movies that CK or Merlin have out. But I post where to find others movies as well. Its this BS arguing and bashing that really needs to stop and just stick to the topics.
strutr74
05-31-2007, 10:22 PM
Bitter? Are you serious? I laugh my butt off watching you " Beat around" the bush. Can't you answer my simple question? Here's the simple fact. Ck and anyone else who are doing these movies are in a no win battle. You can edit, delete whatever you want over there. I could care less, but the simple fact is you'll NEVER win when it comes to Supply and Demand. Once CK makes and sells 1 ONE title forget about it. It is ALL over the place. And there IS nothing you/him or anyone can do about it. So you resort to making up lies, talking trash ect!!! Childish if you ask me. What about Yakuzas post over there? Simple questions and a few people voice there opinions and wammo it wasn't to YOUR likings so its removed.
Lost another poster and supported, c'mon you are a business person. You know thats not how you run shop. Moderation is needed of course. If someone make threats, bigots, ect!!! But if you don't like what they have to say on a simple post or question..Get real. You are in fact driving the people away, and tech is ruining Cks ect!!! business. Remember SUPPLY AND DEMAND!!! A penny saved is a Penny earned:)
strutr74
05-31-2007, 10:28 PM
See Dash you are the only one who makes any sense" From over there" Everyone else just runs around in circles. Like I said it's a no win for them.
It sucks but its a hard pill to swallow, I guess for them?
I'm happy and glad these guys sub the movies. That has never been my point. But remember people come and people go. There will always be someone else to take over if Merlin or Ck hangs it up. They might be the first but not the last.
RANDY1974
05-31-2007, 10:36 PM
Its like a beating ones head against a wal arguing with you, we have made the points over and over again.Plenty of us would rather pay for quality rether than cheap copies.Simple as that , and some of us value boxart and bios and geeky extras as well, none of thsoe scavs wrote that stuff, wrote those cool synopsis or created thsoe boxarts from scratch...and none of them would have..., in fact over the years thier have been many sub par scavs, samuraiworldvideo, and tons of ebayers, fact is those of us in the know that aren't cheap or at the very least discerning know where to shop, and the best part is that you insinuate that someone if getting rich or making big money doing this, but thast not even close to the truth even when some vendors are charging 30$ or 40$ per dvd, they might not even break even till they move 30 or 40 pieces, so why would somone like you that is seemingly intelligent and obviously into the films spend so much time bashing guys that are providing a small cultish following of consumers with qulity rare releases rather than supporting them or in the least ignoring them and buying elsewhere?
Daisho2004
05-31-2007, 11:52 PM
strutr74, I understood what Yakuza was saying in his post over there and I did agree with him on some points, and being a Moderator like Randy, I don't want to delete any ones post I leave that to the Big Boys over there, I was a little surprised that it was totally deleted but I guess I know it was coming, and believe me I would support any site that is all about this type of genre, I was on a few other sites but they were boring, this site is a Great one when it comes to knowledge of certain genre's like Kung-Fu New & Old School movies.
As far as new sellers coming out in the future Subtitling Japanese movies I would support them if they put out rare and hard to find movies, and I'm sure a lot of people over at the Dojo would also, but I'll be honest with you I don't seeing it happening anytime in the realistic future.
strutr74
06-01-2007, 04:05 AM
Randy you can candy coat it all you want. People know the real deal.
A blind man could see why the prices are so high. They have to make at least 1 or 2 sells before their stuff hits ebay or starts being swapped all over the place, Demonoid, Ebay, a few asian movie Dl sites Ect!!! You keep talking about scavs, good for them. It's dog eat dog, Supply and Demand, like I said before. It's great we have subbers like Merlin/CK ect...I never said it wasn't great these guys were around. Kudos to them. My beef has always been about the censorship and the My Way, or the Highway approach.
As far as the scabs tho, who cares?? this isn't the vhs days of Hi-gens dubs. A copy of a dvdr is the EXACT same quality( if recorded correctly) off the original( which is a dvdr to begin with). As far as the artwork, yeah it's nice, The Japanese do a great job on the re-issues ect!!! Photoshop is a great program to resize, edit, cut, for dvd boxart. My 10 year old does that stuff all the time. I know alot is made, but most is lifted. And don't even start me up on the stuff copied off tv. I already posted my thoughts on that in the other thread. Very shady to charge money for something that was free IMO. If you wanna pay 10xs the price for some dvd box art more power to you. The movie is whats important to me.
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