City Hunter different run times?

[OHMSS006]

City Hunter different run times?

dont get me wrong,there are places in the net where i read there is the 98mins one (or somewhere near that time not sure exactly) and other places i read something like 105mins also!

Does anyone know the difference between the 105mins to the 95mins?

and does anyone know wat is the 105mins? i would really appreciate it if anyone can help me answer that.

thanks.

[The Running Man]

Well, the difference between 98 and 95 would be because of PAL and NTSC running times.

The 105 running time you got would be from the Japanese laserdisc version.

:)

[OHMSS006]

ohhh cool...

the japanese laserdisc! of course!

then i would assume that, that would be the longer version of the film?

[OHMSS006]

also there was this on eBay also:

cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITY-HUNTE...dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITY-HUNTER-JACKIE-CHAN-HK-LD_W0QQitemZ9145232403QQcategoryZ381QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem)

maybe this might contain the longer cut?

plus would anyone happen to know wat is the difference or what stuff would have not been in the two different versions?

[OHMSS006]

anyone at all?

please?

[The Running Man]

That laserdisc above is not the Japanese disc.

[OHMSS006]

ohh sorry my bad.

but does anyone know what it is included in the Japanese Laserdisc version of the film which makes it longer than the current versions we have today?

anyone?

[The Running Man]

From what I heard, the opening title credit sequence is longer, the song at the end credits is different, and there is additional out takes at the end of the film.

[OHMSS006]

so the film is exactly as it is besides from that?

[The Running Man]

I haven't heard anything else besides that.

[OHMSS006]

ohh right.

okay then...

anyone else might happen to know then?

and does anyone else know where i can the japanese laserdisc version of the film?

[OHMSS006]

or does anyone know if the actual film contains any other extra scenes at all?

[Markgway]

Joy Sales are releasing this soon. Perhaps they will include some of the extra footage as a bonus?

[OHMSS006]

ahhh would u happen to know if the japanese version of the longer cut has any new scenes in it? or happen to know them at all?

Joy Sales?

[Markgway]

I don't know about the JP edit of City Hunter. Sorry. I just know that Joy Sales are keeping an eye out for extra footage when available. They are a HK-based distributor who have the rights to virtually all of the Golden Harvest catalogue upto and including 1993. As well as Golden Princess, Cinema City and D&B.

[OHMSS006]

oohhh okay then.

so they are a company like HKL or something like that, and are they on the look out of looking for that kind of footage? as another did looking for the full uncut fight scenes with Bruce Lee in Game of Death?

[Markgway]

They have many, many more films than HKL and will be releasing them much faster. Some will be HD remastered, the rest taken from standard prints. All will be anamorphic widescreen though. This week the first batch was released in Hong Kong. The only Kung Fu-related title is The Twin Dragons (Jackie Chan).

[OHMSS006]

ohhhh right.

cool..

Twin Dragons is a god film anyways.

i loveeee Maggie!

[Markgway]

Here's what's available so far.

Joy Sales/Fortune Star (http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_list.php?CategoryID=214&LanguageID=0)

Note: these are not Hi-Def remasters but standard prints like Deltamac used except now in 16:9 and with new subtitles.

[OHMSS006]

thats cool.

Hd isnt really my thing, as in order to enjoy HD u need upgrade everything! more or less ur TV set where u still wont get a satisfying image with or any signal.

so apprantly, the Fortune Star version of Twin Dragons tends to be the best version than any other DVD out there?

[killer meteor]

What Markgway meant was a hi-def restoration, as done by Fortune Star for their IVL/Fox releases. He didn't mean hi-def discs.

[Markgway]

Yeah, none of the discs are HD, but rather some of the remasters are sourced from HD-quality prints. If you check out the front page of the ADVDG they'll keep your right with info on upcoming titles. I haven't got my Twin Dragons yet, but ideally it should be the best available thus far.

[OHMSS006]

yeah...

apprantly its said to be the Uncut, and tends to be the longer than the previous one, maybe the previous one was the Hong Kong (un)cut by Delmatic?

is there any other longer version than that one?

[Markgway]

AFAIK all HK DVD releases of Twin Dragons and City Hunter have been uncut. I'm sure CH will prove likewise when it's released soon.

[OHMSS006]

oh okay.

and hey everyone, look what ive won:

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISA...%3AIT&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item=200001229798&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1)

was it worth it?

[OHMSS006]

anyone?

i also like to know if its complete widesceen and does it hav any subtitles in the way of the image?

any info about it?

[Markgway]

Worth it if you're a collector of rare versions -- assuming it does contain extra footage. I'd expect it to be letterboxed and with Japanese subtitles (mainly) beneath the image (might be some overlap due to the 1.85 ratio). I guess you'll know when it arrives. :)

[OHMSS006]

yeah i will, wen i get grands of money to buy a X9 LD player, which i dont even have one, as tis is my first ld ive ever gotten.

[Markgway]

If you don't have an LD player I don't suppose it matters how the disc looks!! :lol

[OHMSS006]

actually it still does.

i have bought something that relatively is not found everywhere, and the print tends to be something alot of people want perhaps.

i thought any Ld player will do, but after some research, it looks like i actually want the best of my Laserdisc, and thus gaining as much quality as i can from the laserdisc as the qualityof an LD is lower than a DVD, and hearing that a LD player like the Pioneer HLD-X9 really does give out the sunsihine giving that DVD quality.

and because LDs are analogue, the quality wont somehow be touched unless it was made bad, or the laserdisc player is played bad.

correct me if im wrong, it is like a VHS tape, getting an original Disney tape for example, when it was made, the quality was made on high levels. thus, playing it on a (below) average VCR, the quality u will get of course willb e as expected from the VCR, but then, when you play it on a top VCR, like a S-VHS ET VCR from Panasonic (which i a trying to find), the quality will be amazing, as u will recieve images onto your TV set from your VCR as it was intend to be showed as it was made.

thus, with a top VCR, u will get a picture showing how the creators of the tape intend to be shown.

i wish there ws someone with that kind of LD player which i can borrow for like a couple of days, and use it to record the film on High Quality DVD, where i will rip it on my computer and do some restoring if i can. therefore maybe the print will be in top notch.

[OHMSS006]

ummm...

sorry if i complicatd everyone here i assume...

did anyone understood wat i said may i ask?

[OHMSS006]

anyone???

pleaseeeeee????

[The Running Man]

No offense dude...but what you're asking is a bit much. It's also next to impossible seeing as no one really knws each other on forums and what you are doing is basically asking totally strangers if they have a high end LD player and then ask total strangers if they can lend one to you if they have.

That sort of thing is not gonna get any replies.

[Dion Brother]

A longer version of CITY HUNTER did play on television in Taiwan. I don't have the details, but I think it was just some extra but very brief action shots and maybe an extra gag or two. A friend who would know saw it when he was vacationing there about 7 years ago. He does read this board, so maybe he'll post some info. Possibly the Japanese version contains extra footage of the Hard & Soft Kids rap duo? Gala Gala Happy!

[OHMSS006]

excellent!

now all i have to do is wait for this information to come.

its got to have more than wat uve mentioned.

95mins to over 100mins? somethings gotta give.

[The Running Man]

What's more is the extra out-takes reel that plays at the end of the movie and the extended opening credit sequence. That's the majority of the extra footage.

[OHMSS006]

well, i would say thats still money worth buying.

the seller has now received my payment, and will email me when they have shipped it.

now al i need is a Laserdisc player, which im only going to need once for a lifetime. hahahaha.

(probably not funny actually).

[Markgway]

Have you tried second hand electronic stores?

[OHMSS006]

well i am not as rich as u think, nor do i have any money. besides to pay for that laserdisc.

i always liked quality, and always had my mind set on on the HLD-X9, as i have been hearing great stuff about it, thus me liking it.

but not sure that much as i saw this:

translate.google.com/tran...safe%3Doff (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.mmjp.or.jp/ippinkan/newpage129.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwww.mmjp.or.jp/ippinkan/newpage129.htm%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff)

i dont quite understand it.

but anyways, i was thinking of starting a new thread somewhere stating about the X9, if anyone can tell me wat is soooo good about it, and if possible, can someone give me some examples. and how does it differ from other LD players.

[Markgway]

well i am not as rich as u think

Which is why I said SECOND HAND electronic stores. Nobody buys players anymore so you might get a used one dirt cheap.

nor do i have any money. besides to pay for that laserdisc.

Well, if you have so little money it seems odd you should spend it on an item you can't play. But that's just me.

[OHMSS006]

i know u said second hand, and i still cant afford to get one. plus dont have any space for a player.

i understand wat u meant, and i think alot of people will agree with u, but then, from my knowledge, this is the only japanese cut avaiable, nor on DVD or VHS even. correct me if im wrong though.

also, i am still hoping someone can help answer me about the laserdisc players difference, and comb filters. the productin the link is actually a Crystal Vision VPS-100, which is a comb filter, and read many good stuff about it.

may i ask, if u get an ordinary player, and u connect that comb filter, will u get the same results as a HLD-X9 player? having this 'DVD-like' quality and so on?

[Markgway]

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but if you can't afford even a second hand player and have no space for one, what exactly is the point of this thread?? |I

[OHMSS006]

because i am getting tha laserdisc, which is on the way, and i want to know wat to expect.

the only thing why i am sort of complaining about not having one, is because i dont really want to bother my friend on using his. but that whole bit is only minor.

sorry if anyone might have thought this way.

again, anyone?

[OHMSS006]

also, i like to know, since this japanese laserdisc contains footage or extended scenes which is assumingly known in this laserdisc, does anyone know if this kind of version was erleased on DVD or was ever on VHS in any sort?

[luckystars]

Sadly it's in Cantonese and no English subs. When you get a LD player, make sure you get a Chinese speaker to help you :)

Also I don't think another release exists...unless there was a Japanese VHS?

[OHMSS006]

hahahaha a japanese VHS, to be honest, i dont know if they actuslly did, even though they have invented it of course.

its going to be awhile to get a Laserdisc player that i want, i really want an X9, to get the best out of my Laserdisc.

can anyone tell me some information about the HLD-X9 please???? i would really appreciate it.

[luckystars]

Of course it exists:

http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/SAVE/105/M00150/26/PCVX10352_l.jpg

Release date: 1995-07-21

Subtitles: Japanese

Serial: PCVX10353

Run time: 105 minutes


And how do I know? Coz I gots all da infoz :hat

[OHMSS006]

oh wow!

do u own the VHS yourself may i ask?

and it has the 105mins!!!!

would u happen to know if it is in widescreen?

also, would u happen to know if it is comaprable to the Laserdisc at all in any way?

[luckystars]

No I don't own it. Some sites list the tape as widescreen.

[OHMSS006]

oh okay then.

in ur humble opinion, do you think the laserdisc is more favourable than the VHS tape itself?

[luckystars]

Assuming that they *are* the same versions, you'd be able to buy the LD much easier...although you'll need to buy a player. Catch 22. ;)

[OHMSS006]

so i'll assume that the laserdisc is better than the VHS right?

also, 'Catch 22' ???

[killer meteor]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat...28logic%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_%28logic%29)

I must admit you're going to an awful lot of trouble for one laserdisc but then I've got six different versions of Fist Of Fury

[OHMSS006]

oh right...i get it now.

and i do apologize if i am going through alot of trouble for th is one laserdisc. but dont worry, there will be plently more to come, for example, i have posted a link of a japanese Drunken Master LD on the other thread 'Classic Kung Fu Film 1965-1985'.

[OHMSS006]

hey everyone!

i finally received my LaserDisc! my first ever!

yay!

and wow! its a massive piece of thing that is!

sp just to sum it up, the laserdisc has a better quality than the VHS version, plus there isnt any cut like this outside of japan i assume, thus making this unique. am i correct or not?:(

does anyone know if they have a version like this?

also, the HLD-X9 is known to be the best Ld player ever, cause of its Red Laser reader and its 3D Comb Filter. Is it possible to get an ordinary player with a Red Laser pickup, and connect a Vision Crystal comb filter with it, and so will it give the same results as the HLD-X9 will?

thanks

[The Running Man]

sp just to sum it up, the laserdisc has a better quality than the VHS version, plus there isnt any cut like this outside of japan i assume, thus making this unique. am i correct or not?

Yup.

[OHMSS006]

Hooraay!!!

im rich!

now IVL has to buy me out for this cut :D

also, can anyone help me answer that question about the HLD-X9?

please?

[eatingfish]

Hooraay!!! im rich! now IVL has to buy me out for this cut



You're getting your hopes up way too much. I cut & paste a post from Muldoon on ADG:

"The only thing extended on the Japanese laserdisc of City Hunter released by Pony Canyon is the opening of the film. The longer opening has more shots of the City Hunter comic and the red bathing suit beauties. It also has a 2nd blooper reel in addition to the blooper reel that plays during the end credits. I already sent Joy Sales/Fortune Star screenshots of Pony Canyon's laserdisc"

Sorry but looks like he's beaten you to it...

[luckystars]

In any case you can pick this up on the Asian auction sites fairly easily. It's nowhere near as rare as some of Jackie's other LD's.

[OHMSS006]

i was actually being sarcastic, and i am very aware of not being so lucky anyways. :D

so dont worry.

also, can yo probably name me a rare Jackie Chan Ld that is actually considered Rare?

thanks.

[The Running Man]

Actually there is some extra stuff in the movie itself albet very minor. I suppose that muldoon missed it.

[OHMSS006]

oh okay then.

thanks.

i am not sure wat im going to say...

oh yes...

wat is the picture display like?

is it in its original aspect ratio? does it have japanese subtitles overlapping the actual image?

[The Running Man]

is it in its original aspect ratio? does it have japanese subtitles overlapping the actual image?

Yes to both.

[OHMSS006]

woah...

wen i mean does it have japanese subtitles overlapping the actual image, as in on the film itself? and not on like a black area??

[OHMSS006]

anyone?

am i correct?

[The Running Man]

It's on the image.

[OHMSS006]

oh right....

nuts.

so...wat now?

:D

[luckystars]

Why is that a problem, were you going to re subtitle the alternative footage? :)

[The Running Man]

There's no extra footage to subtitle unless someone is going to translate the alternate end credits song that is in Japanese that is at the end of the film

[OHMSS006]

well it was going to be a yes.

i do know someone who can help me translate japanese for me.

but i was so sure the japanese subtitles was not actually going to be on the actual film image, i thought that would be ridiculous to have it imprinted on the image itself.

is that like on the actual VHS version of it?

now, the payment has arrived for the Poice Story laserdisc which i cannot wait! :D ive been up and down looking fo that damn thing for over 2 years! now i have it prestine condition. and i know wat to exepect from that! hahahahaha.

[luckystars]

So you have a LD player now? It's fairly typical actually for these Japanese releases to have big clear subtitles that overlap the picture slightly.

[OHMSS006]

i actually had in mind it was going to be more like how the Police Story japanese laserdisc was going to be like, on the black area and not on the actual film print.

[tigerstyles]

here no shutup about the damn film (http://adg.invisionzone.com/index.php?s=501fe2bac9a7ba36c403c591351f5b42&showtopic=1139&st=100)

[OHMSS006]

ohhh thats brilliant!

if u would ahve showed me that before, i maybe would have shutted it up. hehehehehe.

anyways, thanks very much for that, now i only ask for this one last thing, does the VHS version of this film (the japanese version of course that was posted here in page 3), i assume it has the same print and runtime footage, correct me if im wrong?

and do they also tend to have the same subtitles on it? or is it a nice clean copy as i probably would imagine?

i would really appreciate it if anyone can help me answer that.

thanks very much everyone for your help. really am appreciative.

[tigerstyles]

:( :rollin

[OHMSS006]

i cant find anything on that site or forums. all abotu the legend himself :D

[OHMSS006]

anyone?

was there anything for me to go and find?