View Full Version : Out of print (OOP) IVL Shaw Brothers DVD's
drunkenmantis13
08-15-2007, 10:39 PM
I think it would be a great idea to keep a list of know titles already OOP so people who want them don't hesitate if they see them somewhere.
Also is there a way to know which titles will soon be going OOP?
So right now i only know of The Flying Guillotine 1 and 2 that i want and can't find. Please add the ones you know!
goliamoto
08-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Ghost eyes
Kiss of death
Lost souls
oldeschool17
08-15-2007, 11:26 PM
Five Deadly Venoms
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
08-16-2007, 08:52 AM
Just ordered, The Kung Fu Instructor, which is out of print. Found it on shelf at a given online retailer.
Vengeance, is out of print.
The IVL release of The Flying Guillotine is out of print, but the Deltamac release can stiil be found. HKflix has a copy in stock. That's the only Deltamac I've had to resort to yet because of the growing out of print ordeal.
You have to go through a list of what you definitely want remastered in your collection and of what Shaws you may deem must haves, then scour the online retailers if you come across any that are out of print.
If any other companies are gonna lease the rights to any of these Shaw remasters you may have a very long wait.
Stuntman Jules
08-16-2007, 08:12 PM
THE MAGIC BLADE's out of print too.
Markgway
08-16-2007, 09:26 PM
The Kung-Fu Instructor is surely too recent to be OOP?
I thought it was only the first few batches?
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
08-16-2007, 11:00 PM
The Kung-Fu Instructor is surely too recent to be OOP?
Is it? I was gonna purchase it from HKflix, but they've listed it as out of print, not back ordered. So, I just asssumed it was out of print. I don't rightly remember its release date.
Actually, I now wonder just how many copies Celestial is packaging. Could it be that because of poor sales in the last few years they're trying to save on manufacturing costs.
I don't know, just a wild shot in the dark. :rolleyes
oldeschool17
08-16-2007, 11:22 PM
magic blade is still available on hkflix, so you may wanna edit your post
Markgway
08-17-2007, 03:37 AM
'Instructor' only came out in Feb 2006.
I would expect the OOP discs to be from 2002/03
You can get it here btw:
www.dddhouse.com/v3/produ...uctID=5241 (http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=5241)
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
08-17-2007, 08:42 AM
Yes but Markgway, that could just be a left over shelf item. Once that item (or whatevers left of what they have in stock) is gone, they may not be able to order it again. This is just speculation of course because of seeing it listed at HKflix as OOP.
Ko Fei
08-21-2007, 12:07 PM
What the hell? www.DDDhouse.com list Masked Avengers as being OOP. It just came out didn't it?
stormybman
08-21-2007, 01:39 PM
Why are so many of the newer releases going out of print so soon? Anyone care to answer that question? Titles such as The Young Avenger are already OOP. What gives? Celestial just slamming the door on us because they're at the end of their release catalogue? :\
"Now you listen to me... I'll only say it once!! We are NOT sick men!!!"
Steve Barr
08-21-2007, 02:01 PM
Why are so many of the newer releases going out of print so soon? Anyone care to answer that question? Titles such as The Young Avenger are already OOP. What gives? Celestial just slamming the door on us because they're at the end of their release catalogue?I've heard sales were poor, so they may be reducing the quantity produced. From now on perhaps it's worth the extra effort to preorder each batch from your favorite merchant.
ShaKwon
08-21-2007, 03:48 PM
From now on perhaps it's worth the extra effort to preorder each batch from your favorite merchant.
OMG! I was not aware of this. I totally agree!
oldeschool17
08-21-2007, 04:00 PM
and some of you folks were laughin when some of us put in our preorders for the venoms flicks.8)
thejadefacedassassin
08-21-2007, 04:27 PM
My friend knows some of the staff at IVL who told him it is true that there will be no more new release from Celestial after Dec 2007. Many titles already released will be out of print as they will not be repressed.
Markgway
08-21-2007, 11:50 PM
So where do the HK rights lie from 2008?
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
08-22-2007, 09:08 AM
So where do the HK rights lie from 2008?
Or beyond... and what films will any of these prospective companies release and in what way?
Very good question.
Sword and the Lute has been difficult to find so I believe is out of print. I ordered it from Playasia and its been almost two weeks and I recently got an email from them that they are trying to get the dvd.
Karlos
08-22-2007, 11:35 AM
Just placed an order from the UK part of YesAsia.com, to find that there are many new (i.e. less than 2 years old) SB's are being flagged up as either not available or VCD only (Four Riders, Rend w/Death, and, shockingly, Masked Avengers!), to name but three.
Could just be temporary, of course, but it doesn't look good, does it? :(
Steve Barr
08-22-2007, 12:38 PM
Sword and the Lute has been difficult to find so I believe is out of print.Sensasian may still have the VCD.
Karlos
08-22-2007, 06:19 PM
CD-Wow still have Sword/Lute on their list, if that's any help.
:D
I might have to try cdwow if playasia doesnt come thru. I dont buy vcd's unless they are vcd only releases so dvd is a must for me on Sword/Lute. I recently got Temple Red Lotus and Twin Swords and I am waiting on Sword/Lute so I can watch them all together.
Wow, I had no idea things were going out of print at that rate. I just put in an order from dddhouse that included The Young Avenger---hope they still have it on the shelves.
Markgway
08-23-2007, 12:58 AM
Well, it seems as though it's open season on any title.
How can we know what to look for if the deletions are at random?
Masked Avengers OOP?
Bloody hell!
oldeschool17
08-23-2007, 01:39 AM
Masked Avengers is not OOP. I just saw it on hkflix and yesasia. You guys need to cross-reference on all RELIABLE sites before declaring it not available.
Linn1
08-23-2007, 02:31 AM
it's often the site just doesn't list it because they don't have it in stock. Find out if they can get it first, if they can't, then it's OOP.
The Amazing Psychoper
08-23-2007, 03:32 AM
There is something weird going on with Masked avengers, yesterday it wasn't available on DVD on yesasia and DDDhouse still is listing it oop... I've sent them an e mail...
The Amazing Psycho Per :evil
thejadefacedassassin
08-23-2007, 03:15 PM
DDDhouse has Masked Avengers DVD back in stock. Grab them here before they go out of print :
www.dddhouse.com/v3/produ...uctID=6908 (http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=6908)
thejadefacedassassin
08-27-2007, 07:31 AM
Scorpioeast in Singapore has taken my suggestions seriously and started to release out of print and VCD-only titles on DVD.
Ghost Eyes & Mist Over Dream Lake are out, both titles are OOP in HK.
The fantastic news is that Chin Ping's The Swordmates & Ling Yun's Twin Blades Of Doom are also out now on DVD.
Both of these are VCD-only releases in HK.
I will try and get DDDhouse to stock them.
Le Peril Jaune
08-27-2007, 02:06 PM
Wonderful news JFA, thank you:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Ko Fei
08-27-2007, 04:22 PM
I noticed there is a chinese based company(Zoke Culture) that is releasing region 0 copies of the celestial prints. So really if we can't get the IVL versions at least we should be able to get our hands on those. More than likely they will release the whole catalog. :D
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
08-27-2007, 05:44 PM
The fantastic news is that Chin Ping's The Swordmates & Ling Yun's Twin Blades Of Doom are also out now on DVD.
That is good news. Both of those films are very well done and deserved DVD release in the first place.
Now, if we can just manage to have Black Butterfly released on DVD, then we'd be talking.
monque
08-28-2007, 12:36 AM
I wish I could get my hands on Dirty Ho.
The Amazing Psychoper
08-28-2007, 03:23 AM
I don't think it's necessary to hit the panic buton concerning shaws IVL titles going out of prints. Most of the big names will surely be released by Dragon Dynasty, Media Blasters, Image or anyone at some point... Also the IVL releases are nothing exceptional, from a bonus features stand point, nor are the covers particularly good looking (particularly the recent ones...). The new releases from the other companies will most probably be better then the IVL's... It's for the more obscure titles that it will probably be a lost, but anyway those who liked them probably bought them already (and for my part, they're usually obscure for a reason...) So everyone take a deep breath, I don't think it's time to panic just yet...
The Amazing Psycho Per :evil
PS By the way Dirty Ho is still available on Hkflix.com
Ko Fei
08-28-2007, 09:08 AM
I agree with you on that one but I wonder just how many titles the other companies will actually release. Celestial has released so many of them that I find it hard to believe that anyone else will release this many. I wish we knew which ones were gonna be considered rare and hard to get for down the road.
drunkenmantis13
08-28-2007, 09:27 PM
We are not sure which titles the US labels will release, neither when (in most cases). Also you never know, some announced stuff can get cancelled for dozens of reasons. So i think it's fair to say that someone who wants a title should pick it up before it goes OOP from IVL. That's how i see it...anyway if it gets a US release later i can always pick it up and get rid of my IVL. At least i'm sure to have the flick that i wanted.
By the way, DAMNIT this thread turned out to be scarily massive. I was expecting a few handfuls of titles but...seems they're mostly ALL going OOP sooner than expected. It's like in January '08 they won't be printing anymore movies nor copies of released titles. Ugh..
Also i agree please try not to list a title just because you see it unavailable at one place, try making sure before. So this thread would turn out better and quite useful. Thanks guys!
Linn1
08-29-2007, 01:08 PM
no way in hell that a US label is releasing anything close to what IVL did. That said, I'm talking with one who's thinking of doing a Shaw horror/exploitation line, so it's possible we'll see some of those on DVD.
Ko Fei
08-29-2007, 02:00 PM
I can easily agree with you on that one. IVL released way to many titles for any US company to even compete. They pretty much released all the gems.
bumping this thread for CKT
Chen Kuan Tai
03-17-2008, 11:51 PM
bumping this thread for CKT
thx, nice thread I am looking after this :)
hope I can get the most sbs I am looking for before they are going oop, only money is the problem :(
Chen Kuan Tai
03-18-2008, 03:07 AM
I can recommend you to look on the dddhouse.com site if you think there is an oop title you are looking for. DDD shows if a title is in stock/out of stock or oop.
Thai sbs (zoke): Someone compared them with ivls if they are same 1:1? they are also in dvd-5 (4,7 gb) like the most ivls (think only till beginning 2005 ivls are inn dvd-9 -> 8,7 gb). Where I can order cheap zoke dvds?
David Rees
03-18-2008, 07:31 PM
ddd house is always 1st choice for me, always answers any e-mail questions also.
Zoke dvd's are available on ebay, but i dont think that many have been released....
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Chen Kuan Tai
03-19-2008, 12:57 AM
ddd house is always 1st choice for me, always answers any e-mail questions also.
Zoke dvd's are available on ebay, but i dont think that many have been released....
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I just see at buyoyo there are chinese sb dvds (bootlegs?) for example by crippled avengers: http://www.buyoyo.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?style=1&prrfnbr=3720703&prmenbr=152&CGRY_NUM=251&LANGUAGE=1&curr=USD
Label: Liao Ning Culture Audio & Visual Co Ltd
Looks like these dvds are identic with the ivls. Anyone checked the dvds?
Doctor Dee
03-19-2008, 06:11 PM
I've been looking through several online sites and the only IVLs that I can't find anywhere are:
Venegeance
Flying Guillotine
Golden Swallow
Heroes Two
Any other additions?
Kwok Choi
03-19-2008, 09:35 PM
See below.Will try to find some more later.There are some unpopular titles that have not been listed.
Kwok Choi
03-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Some IVL Shaw dvds out of print but could be available as back stock:
Anonymous Heroes
All Men Are Brothers
The Angry Guest
The Bastard
Brave Archer 2
Chinatown Kid
Danger Has Two Faces
Dirty Ho
Descendant Of The Sun
The Five Venoms
The Flying Guillotine 1 & 2
The Golden Sword
Golden Swallow
Have Sword Will Travel
Heaven And Hell
Heroes Two
Human Lanterns
Holy Flame Of The Martial World
Invincible Shaolin
Iron Bodyguard
The Jade Tiger
The Killer Snakes
Kiss Of Death
The Lady Assassin
Long Road To Gallantry
Man Of Iron
The Master
The Mighty Peking Man
My Young Auntie
The Naval Commandos
The Rescue
River Of Fury
Savage 5
Secret Service Of The Imperial Court
The Sentimental Swordsman
Shaolin Avengers
Shaolin Intruders
Shaolin Prince
The Spirit Of The Sword
The Sword And The Lute
Swordsman And Enchantress
The Thundering Sword
Vengeance
The Web Of Death
oldeschool17
03-20-2008, 12:47 AM
The Five Venoms: This has been OOP for probably 2 years now give or take
As for a bunch of the others, you can get them as IMAGE, Dragon Dynasty, or Siren versions. Some will even be picked up by Media Blasters, BCI, and maybe even Dragon Dynasty will release the ones they have rights to(i doubt they will release much)
Doctor Dee
03-20-2008, 06:11 PM
Thanks for the list, Kwok Choi. In looking through Chinatown in NYC last week, many of those titles are still available. I am sure I saw Brave Archer 2, Dirty Ho, Shaolin Prince, Shaolin Avengers...
Five Venoms is available in many stores here, but I think it has been repressed because they do not have the paper slipcovers that were on the original IVL release.
The 4 titles I listed were the only ones I could find that were not in stock at dddhouse, buyoyo, and yesasia and that I had not seen in stores here.
bruiselee
03-20-2008, 06:44 PM
Doctor Dee... any chance you can make a Shaw run for some us unfortunate ones that don't have a Chinatown in our neck of the woods? :)
venoms5
03-20-2008, 06:54 PM
Those Shaw discs in the stores in Chinatown are not repressed by IVL. They're bootlegs done apparently in the store. A number of times one of the merchants in one of the shops (don't remember the name but it's across from the Buddhist Temple on canal in NY) tried to get me to buy the cheaper discs being sold beside the legit discs. At the time, said titles were still in print.
Doctor Dee
03-21-2008, 01:37 PM
Those Shaw discs in the stores in Chinatown are not repressed by IVL. They're bootlegs done apparently in the store. A number of times one of the merchants in one of the shops (don't remember the name but it's across from the Buddhist Temple on canal in NY) tried to get me to buy the cheaper discs being sold beside the legit discs. At the time, said titles were still in print.
I know the bootlegs that you're talking about, there are a couple of stores on the Bowery that sell them. But I am sure there are a couple of older classic titles (Five Venoms, 36th Chamber, and a couple of others) that are real IVL reprints that just don't have the sleeve. They look just like the recent legit IVL releases that came without the sleeve. I have seen them at the one store I am sure does not sell bootlegs so they are legit.
gravedigger666
03-21-2008, 01:44 PM
Some IVL Shaw dvds out of print but could be available as back stock:
Anonymous Heroes
All Men Are Brothers
The Angry Guest
The Bastard
Brave Archer 2
Chinatown Kid
Danger Has Two Faces
Dirty Ho
Descendant Of The Sun
The Five Venoms
The Flying Guillotine 1 & 2
The Golden Sword
Golden Swallow
Have Sword Will Travel
Heaven And Hell
Heroes Two
Human Lanterns
Holy Flame Of The Martial World
Invincible Shaolin
Iron Bodyguard
The Jade Tiger
The Killer Snakes
Kiss Of Death
The Lady Assassin
Long Road To Gallantry
Man Of Iron
The Master
The Mighty Peking Man
My Young Auntie
The Naval Commandos
The Rescue
River Of Fury
Savage 5
Secret Service Of The Imperial Court
The Sentimental Swordsman
Shaolin Avengers
Shaolin Intruders
Shaolin Prince
The Spirit Of The Sword
The Sword And The Lute
Swordsman And Enchantress
The Thundering Sword
Vengeance
The Web Of Death
I have those all minus 4--..web of death could get anytime but some said it`s not good movie.
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-21-2008, 01:45 PM
I've been looking through several online sites and the only IVLs that I can't find anywhere are:
Venegeance
Flying Guillotine
Golden Swallow
Heroes Two
Any other additions?
All of those are available and in stock on HKflix!
Doctor Dee
03-21-2008, 04:41 PM
All of those are available and in stock on HKflix!
Not the R3 IVL version, they're all listed as "On Order"
Which means they'll take your money but then send an email later telling you they can't get it.
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-22-2008, 06:23 PM
Ok, didn't know! I don't know what all this region stuff is all about! Where I live, practically every DVD player is region free, so no one ever thinks about that stuff!
Chen Kuan Tai
03-25-2008, 03:49 AM
Ok, didn't know! I don't know what all this region stuff is all about! Where I live, practically every DVD player is region free, so no one ever thinks about that stuff!
The rc is mentioned sometimes to indentify better the version which is talking about. So you don't have to think about the rc.
Mark Pollard
03-25-2008, 04:12 AM
Kwok Choi, you got a good list going. Anyone want to volunteer to keep it updated? We could get a new thread started and stickied and just keep the first post updated with a list sorted by distributor. This is a topic that's going to be increasingly helpful for all of us to keep track of, as least those of us who haven't bought every SB reissue to date already.
Chen Kuan Tai
03-25-2008, 04:51 AM
Kwok Choi, you got a good list going. Anyone want to volunteer to keep it updated? We could get a new thread started and stickied and just keep the first post updated with a list sorted by distributor. This is a topic that's going to be increasingly helpful for all of us to keep track of, as least those of us who haven't bought every SB reissue to date already.
I think, too. Best is to start a new thread where all oop titles can be posted. The first post shows the list which will be updated from time to time.
But why to sort by distributor? Important are only the ivl releases which going oop from time to time.
Chen Kuan Tai
03-25-2008, 04:59 AM
Also important is to sort by dvd/vcd. There are titles where only the dvd is oop. And there are titles where only vcd is released. I quoted it after the title.
Here is my oop list:
All Men Are Brothers (DVD & VCD)
Angel Strikes Again (VCD, only VCD released)
Angry Guest, The (DVD & VCD)
Bastard, The (DVD)
Black Magic (DVD & VCD)
Brave Archer 2 (DVD)
Cave Of Silkon Web (DVD)
Chinatown Kid (DVD)
Corpse Mania (VCD, only VCD released)
Criminals, The (DVD)
Crippled Avengers (VCD)
Flying Guillotine (DVD)
Flying Guillotine 2 (DVD)
Ghost Eyes (DVD & VCD)
Golden Buddha (DVD)
Golden Swallow (DVD)
Golden Sword (DVD)
Have Sword Will Travel (DVD)
Heaven And Hell (DVD)
Heroes Two (DVD)
Holy Flame Of The Martial World (DVD)
Human Lanterns (DVD)
Illicit Desire (DVD & VCD)
Intimate Confessions Of A Chinese Courtesan (DVD)
Invincible Shaolin (DVD)
Iron Bodyguard (DVD)
Jade Tiger (DVD)
Killer Snakes (DVD)
Kiss of Death (DVD & VCD)
Lady Assassin (DVD)
Lady Professional (DVD & VCD)
Long Road To Gallantry (DVD)
Lost Souls (VCD, only VCD)
Magnificent Wanderers (DVD)
Mahjong Heroes (DVD)
Man of Iron (DVD)
Master, The (DVD)
Mighty Peking Man (DVD)
My Young Auntie (DVD)
Naval Commandos (DVD)
Oily Maniac (DVD)
Rescue, The (DVD)
Secret Service Of The Imperial Court (DVD)
Sentimental Swordsman (DVD)
Sexy Killer (DVD)
Shaolin Intruders (DVD)
Shaolin Prince (DVD)
Spirit Of The Sword (DVD)
Sword And The Lute (DVD)
Swordsman And Enchantress (DVD)
Thundering Sword (DVD)
Vengeance (DVD)
Web Of Death (DVD)
It's really surprised how much titles are already oop.
venomchamber
03-25-2008, 03:18 PM
Those Shaw discs in the stores in Chinatown are not repressed by IVL. They're bootlegs done apparently in the store.
Not entirely true. Although there are indeed "region 1" bootlegs as well as the Red Sun/Pan Media stuff there in abundance, every film on the list can be found in Chinatown on an authentic IVL R3 DVDs, many still with the cardboard slipcase. I should know, I buy them there all the time! If you don't see it, try asking! (You'd be amazed by what they find under the counter or in their back rooms!) If they don't have it, I assure you they will get it for you, out of print or not! As of this writing, the only movies I am unable to get are STARLETS FOR SALE and LOST SOULS.
venoms5
03-25-2008, 08:37 PM
Not entirely true. Although there are indeed "region 1" bootlegs as well as the Red Sun/Pan Media stuff there in abundance, every film on the list can be found in Chinatown on an authentic IVL R3 DVDs, many still with the cardboard slipcase. I should know, I buy them there all the time! If you don't see it, try asking! (You'd be amazed by what they find under the counter or in their back rooms!) If they don't have it, I assure you they will get it for you, out of print or not! As of this writing, the only movies I am unable to get are STARLETS FOR SALE and LOST SOULS.
The covers on these are clearly photocopied. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Many of these are copies of discs taken from IVLs that HAVE a slipcase. The ones with the photocopied covers DO NOT HAVE THEM. These are also cheaper from the original IVLs that are sold alongside them. If these WERE legit, why are they half the price and still retain the R3 on the back and yet they are region free? I go to NY frequently to visit friends there so it's not like I'm not there often.
venoms5
03-25-2008, 08:37 PM
And to clarify also that these photocopied dupes of the IVLs are NOT PAN MEDIA/RED SUN discs.
Biozombie
03-25-2008, 09:04 PM
I, personally, found Hong Kong Nocturne the hardest to track down.
venomchamber
03-25-2008, 11:44 PM
The covers on these are clearly photocopied. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Many of these are copies of discs taken from IVLs that HAVE a slipcase. The ones with the photocopied covers DO NOT HAVE THEM. These are also cheaper from the original IVLs that are sold alongside them. If these WERE legit, why are they half the price and still retain the R3 on the back and yet they are region free? I go to NY frequently to visit friends there so it's not like I'm not there often.
again, not everything found in Chinatown is a bootleg! I actually live here and go there on a daily basis and will have you know that there are still many, many original Region 3 DVDs readily available, and others still that can also be ordered. (Yes, R3s can be ordered from select stores upon request!)
FYI: Re-released titles no longer come in the slipcases (such as THE 36th CHAMBER films), and movies found in both the ONE ARMED SWORDSMAN and BASTARD SWORDSMAN box sets are also available individually.
Yes, there are a couple of columns of inferior bootlegs there too as you have pointed out, but there are atleast 5 stores in all that carry original Region 3 IVL DVDs that I have personally purchased from (400+), and two of 'em don't stock any boots at all. I suggest anyone in the area should pay CT a visit!
venoms5
03-26-2008, 01:09 AM
BASTARD SWORDSMAN and its sequel are VCDs individually outside of the boxset. When were these made available LEGITIMATELY as individual DVDs? I already have this box set but I cannot find the individual dvds as you mention in your above post. Ditto for the OAS box set. I can find no individual DVD release for the R3 discs.
Yes, I know not everything in Chinatown is a bootleg and yes, I know you live there as you have re-iterated twice now. What I was trying to get across was that there are both bootlegs and legit titles of same title right next to each other in some of the stores; older titles with the slipcases and those without. The obvious photocopied look of the covers are a giveaway. I have also been to some stores that do not have them or at least none that I saw.
venomchamber
03-26-2008, 02:52 PM
BASTARD SWORDSMAN and its sequel are VCDs individually outside of the boxset. When were these made available LEGITIMATELY as individual DVDs?
Yeah, you can get VCDs by the truckload there, but I have no idea as to when the DVDs were made available individually. With the way Celestial and IVL have been handling these releases, there's no telling what to expect, but they are there I assure you. Then again, for all I know maybe they seperate the sets themselves? But still, one shop on Bowery still has a very shelfworn Bastard Swordsman set still lurking around.
I already have this box set but I cannot find the individual dvds as you mention in your above post. Ditto for the OAS box set. I can find no individual DVD release for the R3 discs.
Where are you looking... online or "on foot"? I've never ordered any discs from any online services, so I can't help you there, sorry. Its just as well since I keep reading how everything is out of print. All I know is the stores in Chinatown still get replenishments every Friday, and my bundle of requests is convieniently set aside so when I walk in they just pull 'em out from behind the counter! (Whatever I order they tend to order an extra few copies for the store too.) Eventually, I'm sure it will just be a matter of time before warehouse supply dries up though.
What I was trying to get across was that there are both bootlegs and legit titles of same title right next to each other in some of the stores
to which I agreed
Yes, there are a couple of columns of inferior bootlegs there too as you have pointed out with the grainy xeroxed covers that they push toward the droves of fans that walk in and buy R3s only to bring 'em back a couple hours later because they can't play them. Now they all make sure to exclaim "YOU HAVE REGION THREE?" before ringing you up. Then there's all the Pan Media stuff that the average 'collectors' buy by the dozen and when I see them building their stacks while rummaging thru the bins I've tried warning them that those are bootlegs made here in the U.S. only to be told "I don't speak no Chinese, I wanna see these things in English like they was on channel five". Oh well, to each their own...can't say I didn't try to warn them.
venomchamber
03-26-2008, 03:11 PM
oh, one other advantage of buying them from a store rather than online is that many came with extras... bonus CDs came with many of the Huangmei Operas, lego-styled figures called Kubricks came with the Super Inframan VCD (I got it just for those!), and I've also received Shaw Stars Playing Cards and calenders for spending so much $$$ on a weekly basis in there! I don't see any of these items listed on sites such as HKFlix.
Have they offered these incentives as well?
Winfred
03-26-2008, 04:52 PM
Just saw 2 copies of HK Nocturne on DVD at a shop here. Stray copies of out-of-print IVLs are everywhere.
venomchamber
03-26-2008, 10:03 PM
ok, I just got back from Chinatown. The store I would suggest to anyone in the area looking for rare and/or OOP R3 IVLs is located at 85 Bowery. For years the store primarily used to be a women's accessory store specializing in shoes and handbags known as FAI WONG STYLE as it says on their purple sign, but in recent years they have converted to more and more CD/VCD/DVD media and are now known as PS MUSIC LAND CORP. as it says on their card which also states "Quality & service are our priority".
The reason this one is my personal favorite is because, once upon a time (last August) I couldn't find a couple of titles I really wanted to see and armed with the Celestial catalog I downloaded I proceeded to ask if I could have her order them for me. When they saw the catalog they asked me which ones and after pointing out several of the exploitation/horror titles (such as GHOST EYES and SEXY GIRLS OF DENMARK), they xeroxed the pages, asked me if I wanted R3 DVD or VCD (*DVD all the way baby!) and proceeded to circle the movies in red and told me to come back the next week. This system has worked for me ever since. (*In fact I am happy to say I have returned home today with STARLETS FOR SALE which as I mentioned in previous posts was among the titles I couldn't find anywhere. This title took over a month for them to locate, but atleast they did, so my patience paid off.)
So bring in a list with the Chinese characters and request they order it for you! You'll be glad you did!
oh, their phone number there is (212) 925-6380. (*If you decide to call, be prepared to speak in Cantonese as their English is "Chinglish" at best. *e.g. "you Saws Browda mooby come now!") and their fax is 1 212 274-8319.
I hope this information is useful to some of you.
The Dragon
03-27-2008, 03:47 AM
I have a guy here in Chicago that I do the very same thing with, Venomchamber. I bring in my catalogue with the titles in chinese characters, and he places an order and within a week or two the films come.:D He's always amazed at my interest in the Shaws DVD's.
mistertpitydafoo
03-27-2008, 11:27 AM
Fellow Shaw Fans,
Can anyone find Lost Souls or the one I REALLY REALLY want to see that I can not find for the life of me is The Lady Professional. Some of those OOPs are available on ebay, thats how I found them, 'cuz over the past few months I have made a list of OOP shaws and have been trying my best to get them all either through purchasing or in the worst case, a few I've had to rent and make backup copy of em(which I would NOT do if they would let me buy it, I have almost 200 legit shaws and about 150 backups including the OOP ones or films that I have no interest in but want to see just for my love of shaws, then it sits on the shelf for eternity).
One's I've found on ebay that are legit to buy (except i got sold a $30 bootleg that I was told was legit from ebay of The Kiss of Death) are All Men Are Brothers (Siren), The Angry Guest ivl with slipcase, The Bastard ivl with slipcase, brave archer 2 ivl, chinatown kid zoke media edition with slipcase, crippled avengers zoke media edition with slipcase, flying guillotine zoke media with slipcase, Golden Buddha ivl (was auctioned, while the others have more than one at buy it now when I last ordered some Shaws), Heroes Two thai dvd, Human Lanterns ivl with slipcase, Invincible Shaolin zoke media with slipcase, Kiss of Death (but like I said i was sold a bootleg instead of a legit one and this was won in an auction), The Master siren edition, the rescue zoke media edition with slipcase, Secret service of the imperial court thai version, Shaolin Prince zoke media with slipcover, Spirit of the Sword zoke media with slipcase, Sword and the Lute ivl slip case, vengeance thai version, and Web of Death Siren is the distributor.
A lot of these you can rent to see (or even make a backup copy) is from www.ehit.com (Very BIG collection, literally hundreds of shaws and many OOPs) www.cinflix.com (2nd biggest collection, has some I couldn't find at ehit.com such as The Sentimental Swordsman) www.tigercinema.com [which has probably 20 IVLs and many of those cheaper red sun ones or whatever, but I just rent the IVLs from them, although I accidentally got a 7man army rental that wasn't ivl even though they showed it was ivl in the picture just as a warning. Everything else is okay. What was weird though is it was just like a celestial as far as being remastered (perhaps a lil less quality such as a lower bitrate), no english track (which I thought the bootlegged red sun/panmedias only had) and a cheap looking menu] So if worse came to worse you could always rent and copy until you can actually find the legit copy. I have a collection I am very proud of and it was very frustrating to not be able to find certain films anywhere and have to result to owning a backup of it until they decide to re-release it.
Thank you for your time and I hope this helps. Please send me a PM if anyone knows wher you can get a DVD of The Lady Professional or if anyone wants to sell one or even trade/sell a backup.
Ben
venomchamber
03-27-2008, 04:16 PM
LOST SOULS in the one SB film even I cannot get as it was only made available on the inferior VCD format. (No DVD whatsoever.) My displeasure with that media cused me to procrastinate and await a DVD release that would never come. Now I have learned I waited too long and it has officially gone out of print and I am stuck with a German dubbed bootleg VHS tape. I was fortunate enough to still obtain all of THE CRIMINALS series on VCDs since its better that not having the films at all. Moral: "strike while the iron is hot".
Winfred
03-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Just sent you a PM.
venoms5
03-27-2008, 06:24 PM
Yeah, you can get VCDs by the truckload there, but I have no idea as to when the DVDs were made available individually. With the way Celestial and IVL have been handling these releases, there's no telling what to expect, but they are there I assure you. Then again, for all I know maybe they seperate the sets themselves? But still, one shop on Bowery still has a very shelfworn Bastard Swordsman set still lurking around.
Where are you looking... online or "on foot"? I've never ordered any discs from any online services, so I can't help you there, sorry.
Don't need the sets thank you as I already have them. Just curious as to where these legit single editions you spoke of were located. Maybe they are separating the sets as you said. Very silly to do so but who knows?
Anyway, I have the LOST SOULS vcd but haven't watched it yet. Can't seem to find it anywhere for sale. THE LADY PROFESSIONAL VCD is here though...
http://www.fivestarlaser.com/shop/movies/8998.html?id=7a67ndJw
tarim69
04-09-2008, 01:44 PM
"again, not everything found in Chinatown is a bootleg!"
Correct, in fact its easy to distinguish the bootlegs from the authentic IVLS. Theyre seperated and cost only $7 while the IVLS run $13-15.
At least last time I was there(late summer),that was the case.I dont remember the addresses but there were 3 stores on Bowery and also one of Mulberry - all contained authentic IVLS along with bootlegs.
I saw Lady Professional on ebay awhile back and passed on it. I had other stuff I wanted more.
I had a hard time finding Golden Swallow and Kiss of Death, both which I delayed on purchasing and went OOP way before I expected. I was able to find authentic IVLS of both on ebay.
Lost Souls is impossible to find. Anyone who has it wont get rid of it.
edit: I just looked and the few sellers who I got ALOT of Shaw films from, their inventory has shrunk dramatically. 6 months ago they were selling over 180 titles each, theyre now down to 40 or so.Their IDs are Junker, hddvd_stuff and obscuradvd. I was getting authentic IVLs from these guys for $8 a pop and $18 for OOP stuff. They seem to be down to the bottom of their inventories now though.
bigwulee
04-13-2009, 05:54 PM
What about HOLY FLAME OF THE MARTIAL WORLD?
Shawoholic
02-25-2011, 03:00 PM
Black tavern
Long road to gallantry
Lady assassin
Boxer from the temple
Vengeance of a snowgirl
Magnificent wanderers
Those I cannot find anywhere.
Likely there is more,2 dozen titles I have not even yet looked for available or not.
Gaijin84
02-25-2011, 04:27 PM
Black tavern
Long road to gallantry
Lady assassin
Boxer from the temple
Vengeance of a snowgirl
Magnificent wanderers
Those I cannot find anywhere.
Likely there is more,2 dozen titles I have not even yet looked for available or not.
Sent you a PM
razorclam
02-28-2011, 07:32 PM
I have quite a few of the Shaw Brothers Region 3 ivl dvds that I would be interested in selling. These are authentic with the slipcase. I bought them from yesasia.com during the long release schedule. Several movies like Seven Man Army, Delightful Forest, and Bloody Parrot did not come with slipcase (these were later releases.). As far as condition is concerned; I am the kind of guy that will not buy criterion blu rays in digi pack cases via internet because I want mint condition. If anyone is interested I'll post what I got, and for how much tomorrow. 3 or 4 discs came floating in case (scratched but working) I'll note those. as I recall they were Water Margin, The Master, and Seven Many Army. Let me know if interested. Also if you have a specific request. I have no horror or softcore Shaws.
Sheng
02-28-2011, 10:01 PM
Definitely be interested in a list! PM ?
razorclam
03-01-2011, 01:52 AM
I'll send you a list tomorrow.
Kwok Choi
03-01-2011, 12:39 PM
Hi Razorcalm,please send me a list as well.Cheers.
razorclam
03-01-2011, 04:46 PM
Sorry for the delay guys. I work in a trauma ICU, and it's been pretty busy today. I'm gonna do my best to get the list up today, but there is an outside chance it will be tomorrow. I'm gonna put the list up with prices. At the point I'll use the times people posted an interest as a priorty list. I've never sold anything on line before so I also need to figure out paypal. also need shipping rates/suggestions.
I selected 51 IVLs from my collection. They range from Golden Swallow to Legend of the Fox.
Thanx for your patience.
razorclam
03-01-2011, 08:13 PM
All orders will be through PAYPAL. I'll deal with prospective buyers in the order they contacted me. If you decide you don't want anything just PM me PASS, and I'll PM the next buyer. PM me what you want as well as shipping concerns and email address. Then I'll have PAYPAL send you the billing email.
The buyer's order is:
1 Sheng
2 Kwok Choi
3 Shawoholic
4 Wildzerouk
I'll have the list up shortly. in two seperate posts.
razorclam
03-01-2011, 08:24 PM
All prices in US dollars
Lion vs Lion - $20.00
King Boxer - $15.00
Spiritual Boxer - $25.00
Challenge of the Masters - $15.00
Executioners from Shaolin - $20.00
Shaolin Mantis - $15.00
Clan of the White Lotus - $20.00
Mad Monkey Kung Fu - $20.00
The Shadow Boxing - $20.00
Eight Diagram Pole Fighter - $15.00
My Young Auntie - $15.00
Martial Club - $15.00
36th Chamber of Shaolin - $15.00
Return to the 36th Chamber - $15.00
Disciples of the 36th Chamber - $15.00
Martial Arts of Shaolin $15.00
Bells of Death - $15.00
The Rescue - $25.00
The Flying Guillotine - $30.00
Flying Guillotine II - $30.00
Bloody Parrot - $20.00
Intemate Cnfessions of a Chinese Courtesan - $20.00
Magic Blade - $15.00
Clan of Amazons - $20.00
Legend of the Bat - $20.00
Next batch in 20 mins.
razorclam
03-01-2011, 08:32 PM
The Proud Youth - $25.00
Deadly Breaking Sword - $15.00
Five Venoms - $15.00
Invincible Shaolin - $15.00
Crippled Avengers - $15.00
Two Champions of Shaolin - $15.00
Legends of the Fox - $25.00
Chinatown Kid - $20.00
Golden Swallow - $30.00
The Invincible Fist - $20.00
Have Sword will Travel - $15.00
Marco Polo - $30.00
King Eagle - $15.00
Vengeance - $40.00
Deadly Due - $10.00 (fucking hate this movie!!)
Duel of Fists - $20.00
Blood Brothers - $25.00
Delightful Forest - $15.00
Boxer from Shantung - $30.00
All Men are Brothers - $15.00
Iron Bodyguard - $20.00
Heroes Two - $20.00
Boxer Rebellion - $30.00
Your on the clock Sheng!!
Sheng
03-01-2011, 09:21 PM
Hi RC; just send you a PM !
razorclam
03-01-2011, 11:27 PM
Marco Polo, Boxer Rebellion, Invincible Fist, and Chinatown Kid are sold.
Kwok Choi is on the clock.
OpiumKungFuCracker
03-02-2011, 01:05 AM
Deadly Duo, what a minute?? Is that the one with David Chiang and Ti Lung fighting with knives and shit???
If so, I thought it was gangsta.....
Kennedy Il Sung
03-02-2011, 01:13 AM
Deadly Duo, what a minute?? Is that the one with David Chiang and Ti Lung fighting with knives and shit???
If so, I thought it was gangsta.....
Are you thinking of The Duel ?
razorclam
03-02-2011, 01:25 AM
Yeah The Duel is awesome. Deadly Duo is the one where Ti Long has the big axe. It should've been good, but the pacing/plot is so half-ass.
OpiumKungFuCracker
03-02-2011, 01:58 AM
Yeah, The Duel... I don't know how the heck I got those two titles mixed up, hahahaha....
razorclam
03-02-2011, 02:57 PM
Shawoholic is on the clock.
Shawoholic
03-02-2011, 04:29 PM
I have almost all(my nickname should give a hint) but I want flying guillotine 1
razorclam
03-02-2011, 07:41 PM
If you want The Flying Guillotine, send me a PM with your email and mailing address. Then I will have paypal bill you. If you in the US I will add $3.00 for Shipping. If international we will discuss.
razorclam
03-03-2011, 07:37 AM
I'm not sure what shawoholic's intentions are, but I'll hold Flying Guillotine for him. The next guy passed, so bratty you are on the clock. Both titles you asked about are still available.
bratty
03-04-2011, 11:11 AM
well I'm still here .. PM me when you are ready to sell ..
bratty
03-04-2011, 06:08 PM
payment sent for Flying Guillotine 2 - finally ! :wink::wink::tongue:
Alexandra
05-21-2011, 11:56 PM
I ve found this place, is a good one?
http://stores.moviesville.com/
shaolin swords
05-22-2011, 03:26 AM
alexandra i was wondering the same thing that website got 2 diffrent names it also gos by shiningo.com and the one you wrote in your post moviesvill.com.can some one on here tell us if you ever orderd from them and are they legit.because i wanted to buy a couple of hard to find shaw brothers dvds but did not know if this place is legit or not.thanks
bratty
05-22-2011, 03:42 PM
if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. these dvds are going out of print fast with bootlegs popping up from all corners of the globe! stick to vendors you know or sellers who know the difference between original region 3 IVLs and region 0 bootlegs
David Rees
05-22-2011, 05:38 PM
But remember some of the official China releases are all region.
Lixiao
06-12-2011, 04:45 PM
I ve found this place, is a good one?
http://stores.moviesville.com/
I placed an order several months ago. When I tried to send money by PayPal, they (PayPal) said that merchant is unable to receive funds. No reason given, and I tried several times for 3 or 4 weeks.
Their service rep (globaleasysell) kept sending me emails requesting payment to that seller's disabled PayPal account. My order is still outstanding for all I know, but they need to fix their ordering system. I won't pay with credit cards.
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I just tried placing a new order. It seemed to work this time, and I paid using Paypal.
I'll be sure to post an exciting play-by-play update as things progress...
Shawoholic
06-12-2011, 06:01 PM
For readers of this topic I still have rareish Lady Professional for trade(I do not sell).Some other hard to find stuff too...
pm me if you have sth like ivl long road to gallantry or magnificent wanderers or other out of print,thank you.
Delirious
06-12-2011, 06:16 PM
I am looking for:
Lady Assassin
Vengeance (Chang Cheh 1970)
Angry Guest (Chang Cheg 1972)
If anyone is willing to let go of their authentic IVL copy, please let me know.
Alexandra
06-25-2011, 04:30 PM
I won't pay with credit cards.
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I just tried placing a new order. It seemed to work this time, and I paid using Paypal.
I'll be sure to post an exciting play-by-play update as things progress...
I have had a terrible trial with HKFlix and PayPal so I closed all the accounts. And never in the life I pay with credit card.
Here in my country the big problem is with the custom house, all the merchandise is stopped there and you must pay high taxes so... I wont any troubles. A friend of mine is going to China this August... I will ask him to buy there some dvd's and end of the question. Apart of Fu Sheng's titles, any sugestions for dvd's out of print if he finds there for buy them? Thanks.
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