What is the running time on the IVL 36th Chamber?

[gfanikf]

Just something I need to double check.

Also what was the running time on the Crash disc?

TIA

EDIT:
The DD lists 119 on the cover (I'll check the actual time later), but I've seen the IVL listed at 111. Now 8 minutes would be more than PAL to NTSC I would assume.

[gfanikf]

From DVD Beaver (who could easily be wrong on all of them)

R1 (DD):Runtime 1:55:52
R0 (Crash): 1:54:48
R3: IVL: 1:50:48

Now that doesn't seem to make any sense since the box lists 119 for the DD and the CC one should be from an uncut (ie frame cut) print. So in theory shouldn't it be longer? No way the DD has more than even 20 seconds of new logos before the SS logo?

Any ideas?

I'll double check the DD running time later.

[chen lung]

Crash Cinema is 1-2 seconds longer in sandbags chamber.

[gfanikf]

Well, that makes it even doubly weird, unless the Crash Disc used a PAL source, but even that doesn't make any sense.

[gfanikf]

DVDBeavers time for 36th is right though about 10-20 secs are a Celestial logo. Strange though.

[spannick]

the Movie has no Framecuts, only the Sandbags are a bit shortened. Part 2 has much more in regards of framecutting.

[chen lung]

Crash's ghosting is probably because of a PAL>NTSC conversion.

Spannick, do you mean 'Return To The 36th Chamber' has framecuts?

When are you going to get these reviews done Ian :D ?

[gfanikf]

King Boxer tonight, 36th Chamber Saturday or maybe even tonight. OAS and MYA Tuesday at the latest.

[spannick]

"Part 2 has much more in regards of framecutting."

it has some 2 mins of Framecuts. strangely the final 10 mins have no cuts at all.