What's the Best Venoms Flick?

[GhostFaceKiller]

Hey guys,

I'm sure there's probably already a thread about this, but I was just wondering because I own several Venoms films and just want to make sure there's not a really good one that I'm missing.

[Morgoth]

My favorite is Shaolin Rescuers, and Crippled Avengers and Golden Arm are close behind.

[clfnole]

For me it's Invincible Shaolin & Crippled Avengers.

[teako170]

Hey guys, I'm sure there's probably already a thread about this, but I was just wondering because I own several Venoms films and just want to make sure there's not a really good one that I'm missing.

It would be beneficial to know which V-films you had to begin with and which ones of these you prefer.
All V-films are not created equal and certain movies suit certain tastes.

[oldeschool17]

Crippled Avengers and Masked Avengers are probably my fav venoms films, followed by Flag of Iron and Magnificent Ruffians

[Chinatown Kid]

My favorites are Invincible Shaolin, Kid with the Golden Arm, and Five Venoms. Magnificent Ruffians and Killer Army are great too....

[5 Element Boxer]

Flag of Iron is definitely one of my favorites. Such great choreography in that film. I also liked Shaolin Invincible, The Five Venoms, Chinatown Kid and Kid with the Golden Arm. Those are all the best Venoms films, in my humble opinion.

[thekfc]

These are mine:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/thekfc/InvincibleShaolin.jpg
And This one:


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/thekfc/CrippleAvenger.jpg
and also this one:


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/thekfc/FlagofIron.jpg

[WhiteTiger1]

My fav's...
1.Invincible Shaolin
2.5 Deadly Venoms
3.Crippled Avengers
4.Flag of Iron
5.Magnificent Ruffians

[will91XingYu]

My favs are
Crippled Avengers
Masked Avengers
Daredevils
Killer Army
Kid with the Golden Arm
For me the best fight scene they did as a group is the last 20 minutes od Daredevils or Killer Army, and best opera group fight for me is Magnificent Ruffians.

[Endsang]

Overall: 5 venoms.
Action and choreography: 2 Champions of Shaolin. The fight between Lo Meng and Wang Li on the stage is awesome, and what a great finale from Lu Feng.

I also enjoyed Crippled Avengers a lot for the inventive choreography, but the finale with the opera troupe was a bit too much of a performance (although impressive). I preferred Lo Meng vs Chen Kuan Tai. And by the way, what is up with that dodgy wirework on Kuo Chui at the end? (You know the one I mean). Almost looked like a blooper.

[Cesare]

If I had to choose just one, then probably Five Deadly Venoms.
I've immensely enjoyed all Venom flicks I've seen - but 5DV kinda stands out.

[tarim69]

Five Venoms

[AlbertV]

1. Crippled Avengers
2. Flag of Iron
3. Masked Avengers
4. The Kid with the Golden Arm
5. Ten Tigers of Kwangtung (technically this was an all-star SB film, but the Venoms appear in it)
6. Chinatown Kid
7. Invincible Shaolin
8. Five Venoms
9. Daredevils
10. Magnificent Ruffians
11. Shaolin Rescuers

[jmungus]

right this very moment, my venoms charts would look s/t like this (not counting BA series/chinatown kid/heaven and hell/shaolin temple/naval commandos):

1. crippled avengers
2. 5 venoms
3. masked avengers
4. killer army
5. kid with the golden arm
6. legend of the fox
7. magnificent ruffians
8. flag of iron
9. two champions
10. shaolin rescuers
11. house of traps
12. sword stained
13. ten tigers
14. invincible shaolin
15. ode to gallantry
16. daredevils
17. life gamble

special props to the great fun 'indie-venoms' (philip kwok directed) ninja in the deadly trap

killer army/rebel intruders= first venoms flick i ever owned (ca. 1986/7), gets extra credits.
LotF= one of the most inspired directorial works of CC`s late phase, therefore i rank it above some of the venoms most renowned classics.
invincible shaolin & the daredevils rank low like that cuz ive gotten a little sick of the training and demonstration schtick (with both) and i think invincible shaolin`s structure/plot is boring, cheap, anticlimactic.
with daredevils its mostly the radical emphasis on the training/demo thing, its gotta be mentioned tho that its showdown is a true all time kf-hall-of-famer.
havent watched the remastered version of the rescuers yet. theres a small chance it will climb a few positions once i have.

[Bus]

crippled avengers is the best

[Drunken Monk]

I agree with those that say "Crippled Avengers." I think it's the most well rounded effort of all the Venom flicks.

[WhiteTiger1]

AlbertV
5. Ten Tigers of Kwangtung (technically this was an all-star SB film, but the Venoms appear in it)

Story-2/5
Plot-2/5
Kung Fu=5/5
Over All-2.5/5 only because of the Kung Fu.
Different strokes for different folks....
Just would not have it in my top 5. Venom's to me means the original 6 from 5 Deadly Venom's, the rest were 2nd tier Venom's and also the Baby Venom's
1.LIZARD- Kuo Chui
2.CENTIPEDE- Lu Feng
3.SCORPION- Sun Chein
4.TOAD- Lo Mang
5.SNAKE- Wei Pai
6.STUDENT- Chiang Sheng


ALL THE VENOM FILMS
Shaolin Temple aka Death Chamber
Naval Commandos
Brave Archer aka Kung-Fu Warlords
Chinatown Kid
Brave Archer Part 2 aka Kung-Fu Warlords Part II
Five Deadly Venoms aka 5 Deadly Venoms, aka Shaolin Deadly Poisons
Invincible Shaolin aka Unbeatable Dragon, aka Shaolin Bloodshed
Crippled Avengers aka Mortal Combat
Life Gamble
Shaolin Rescuers aka Avenging Warriors Of Shaolin
Shaolin Daredevils aka The Magnificent Acrobats
Magnificent Ruffians aka The Destroyers
Kid With The Golden Arm
House Of Traps
Heaven and Hell aka Shaolin Hell Gate
Brave Archer And His Mate aka Mysterious Island
2 Champions Of Shaolin aka Shaolin And Wu-Tong
Masked Avengers
Flag Of Iron aka Spearman Of Death
Rebel Intruders aka Killer Army, aka The Guerillas
Brave Archer Part 3 aka Blast Of The Iron Palm
Legend Of A Fox
Ode To Gallantry
10 Tigers Of Kwangtung
Sword Stained With Royal Blood (Shaw)
Ruthless Tactics aka Ninja In The Deadly Trap:rolleyes:

[Tosh]

I like all of them:D

[tarim69]

"Venom's to me means the original 6 from 5 Deadly Venom's"

Exactly.

5 Venoms
Invincible Shaolin
Kid w/ The Golden Arms
Ten Tigers From Kwangtung

Unless Im missing one they ALL appeared in.

There are other films that some,even most of them appeared in. I know most dont agree, but IMHO theres only 4 "Venoms Films."

[will91XingYu]

I know it only had three venoms but Ninja in the Deadly Trap is so cool! I loved that film, the end fight between Philip Kwok and Yasuaki Kurate could have been longer! Philip Kwok should have made more films.

[Sandpalm79]

Crippled Avengers
Masked Avengers
Magnificent Ruffians

I love these!!
also to will 91:

On the commentary of ninja in the deadly trap they seemed unsure as to who had the idea first, chang cheh or kuo chui for these almost identical plots. I think that its obvious chang cheh did because it came out 2 years prioir right?

[venomsfreak]

5 Element Ninja came out in 82, Ninja in the Deadly Trap came out in 85.

I like Ninja in the Deadly Trap but there's a scene where they're fighting and a punch that Lu Feng throws lands literally a foot away from the guys face that he's fighting. But the guy of course falls down. That always bothered me.

Anyway my favorite Venoms pics are:

5 Deadly Venoms
Kid with the Golden Arm
Invincible Shaolin
Flag of Iron
Crippled Avengers
Masked Avengers
House of Traps
2 Champions of Shaolin

[Iron_Jinon]

prolly "sword stained with royal blood",followed by flag of iron and invincible shaolin...kid with golden arm would prolly rank finest but I hate chiang sheng and other axeman characters and thing "golden arm" guy have not given much to do(few scenes lo meng appears are extremely cool though)

[HAZ]

I really liked Shaolin Rescuers. The acting was pretty good. The fights were okay, but didn't knock me out, though.

[venomchamber]

1- CRIPPLED AVENGERS (aka U.S. Title: Mortal Combat)
2- KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARM
3- THE FLAG OF IRON (aka U.S. Title: Spearman Of Death)
4- INVINCIBLE SHAOLIN (aka U.S. Title: Unbeatable Dragon)
5- FIVE VENOMS
and honourable mention goes to
FIVE ELEMENT NINJA (aka U.S. Title: Super Ninjas)
...as all of these venomous films are much the best! :D

[Iron_Jinon]

1- CRIPPLED AVENGERS (aka U.S. Title: Mortal Combat)
2- KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARM
3- THE FLAG OF IRON (aka U.S. Title: Spearman Of Death)
4- INVINCIBLE SHAOLIN (aka U.S. Title: Unbeatable Dragon)
5- FIVE VENOMS
and honourable mention goes to
FIVE ELEMENT NINJA (aka U.S. Title: Super Ninjas)
...as all of these venomous films are much the best! :D
I would not count ninjas as venom film even as lo meng is given a bit to do for once(get lot fight and bloody death:p).

[venomchamber]

would not count ninjas as venom film even as lo meng is given a bit to do for once
...hence why I gave it an honourable mention as a 'venomous' film! But still, it is as good if not better than the others!

Ninja in the Deadly Trap came out in 85.
Actually, it came out in 1983 and was released by Ocean shores Video in 1985. ;)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9969/ninjakungfuposterhf2.jpg

[Iron_Jinon]

...hence why I gave it an honourable mention as a 'venomous' film! But still, it is as good if not better than the others!

heh sorry I see it now:p..yup,it`s amazing movie lack of good action no problem in that one.lo meng dies not die easily:)

[5 Element Boxer]

I know it only had three venoms but Ninja in the Deadly Trap is so cool!

I forgot about that one. I still have the DVD. I though it was cool too. Kurata was a great baddie.

[Morgoth]

I thought Ninja in the deadly Trap was good but not great. I was really disappointed with the final fight being so short.

[Xenorama]

i like:
FIVE DEADLY VENOMS
AVENGING WARRIORS
KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARM
those are probably my faves, but i haven't seen a Venom movie i didn't like, really.

David

[GhostFaceKiller]

Thanks a lot for all the great suggestions guys.

I guess I should have listed the Venoms flicks I owned first. Here they are:

5 Deadly Venoms
Crippled Avengers
Kid with Golden Arms
Invincible Shaolin
10 Tigers of Kwantung

It sounds as if a lot of people like Flag of Iron, Masked Avengers, and Shaolin Rescuers. Which of these movies is the most action-packed? My Favorites are Crippled Avengers and Invincible Shaolin because of the great action and excellent choreography. Which would you suggest based upon my favorites and based upon maximum action and tight choreography?

[will91XingYu]

Shaolin Rescuers is basically all fights if i can remember and it has all the venoms (apart from Wei Pak), while Masked Avengers is the cooler film (imo) but dosn't have Sun Chien or Lo Meng, but it does have Chin Siu and Chu Ko in major roles, both films have amazing end fights. I'd get those two first then Daredevils! Flag of Iron is quite good but boring in parts.

[ironfistedmonk]

Get Magnificent Ruffians next mate, great action in this one

[Endsang]

Is Magnificent Ruffians the movie where Wang Li gets to shine a bit more? If not, which?
I can't remember.

[Cesare]

Is Magnificent Ruffians the movie where Wang Li gets to shine a bit more? If not, which?
I can't remember.

Yep, that's the one. He plays one of the heroes.

[Morgoth]

I haven't seen Magnificent Ruffians, but my favorite Wang Li fight is in Shaolin Rescurs where he uses double swords.

[will91XingYu]

The fight with Wang Li and Sun Chien against the bad guys in Magnificent Ruffians is really cool.

[wuxiawuxia]

The Masked Avenger! Bar none!

[iron flag]

If you havent seen Magnificent Ruffians get it for sure!!!

[The Dragon]

For Venoms flicks, you can't go wrong with the following:

Invincible Shaolin
Crippled Avengers
Kid With The Golden Arm
Magnificen Ruffians
Flag of Iron, which is a remake of The Duel.

these can easily get the juices flowing for Venom fare. :D

[GhostFaceKiller]

Hey Guys,

I just got Shaolin Rescuers. This movie was just what I was looking for. The action was great and the movie was fun......well, as fun as a Chang Cheh flick can be. Magnificent Ruffians and Two Champions of Shaolin are on their way too, so I'm hooked up. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions.

[Iron_Jinon]

you should get Killer Army also..lots of action and "toad" is really cool in that one.

[Markgway]

The best?

The Five Venoms.

The worst?

I haven't seen one I've strongly disliked.

[HAZ]

Crippled Avengers & 5 Venoms were both great. I also liked Shaolin Rescuers & Invincible Shaolin. Golden Arm was pretty good too. Masked Avengers was a lot of fun.

House Of Traps was caca & makes me angry just thinking about how awful it was. Sword Stained with Royal Blood put me to sleep maybe 5-6 times. Ten Tigers was a pretty terrible film too.

[Iron_Jinon]

there is not such thing as bad venom clip...it depends kinda of my mood which I rate best...
but seeing kid with the golden arm,rebel intruders and crippled avengers is not bad thing.
daredevils is not maybe your hardcore kungfu addict stuff but welldeveloped storyline it does have.
brave archer#2 cannot maybe counted as pure venom movie but seeing lo meng fight fu sheng is worth it
5 deadly venoms maybe should have more fight but it´s gothic atmosphere mesmerized at least me.

[Behemoth]

Has anyone seen Boxer Rebellion aka Bloody Avengers? If so is it worth buying.

[5 Element Boxer]

I watched Iron Flag (again) this morning. Yeah. That is definitely my favorite Venoms flick. It's so entertaining watching them use the flagpoles as weapons. It hasn't been done since then, if I remember correctly.

[Endsang]

I recently watched KWTGA and I must admit that it is a tad overrated. It had some solid fights at the end, but it just didn't do it for me overall in comparison to the other Venoms flicks I've seen so far. Next up is Magnificent Ruffians. Got slightly higher expectations there.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

I watched Iron Flag (again) this morning. Yeah. That is definitely my favorite Venoms flick. It's so entertaining watching them use the flagpoles as weapons. It hasn't been done since then, if I remember correctly.



Dammit! Just when I thought I had a chance of convincing oldeschool and Teako that this is a bad film, this comment comes back to bite me in the ass. I hate Flag of Iron, but I agree the flag fighting is pretty cool. Check out Hellz Windstaff. The flag is not used as a weapon, but it is used in a training scene.

[oldeschool17]

Dammit! Just when I thought I had a chance of convincing oldeschool and Teako that this is a bad film, this comment comes back to bite me in the ass. I hate Flag of Iron, but I agree the flag fighting is pretty cool. Check out Hellz Windstaff. The flag is not used as a weapon, but it is used in a training scene.

lol. what is it about the movie that you dont like?

Most venoms fans love Invincible Shaolin but the ending ruined it for me.

[Drunken Monk]

I bought "Flag of Iron" about two weeks ago and I'd heard it was one of the weaker efforts. I actually enjoyed the movie throughly but disliked the flag fighting in it. Fighting with flags always seems like an annoying attempt at something cool. It just doesn't look good to me.

[Endsang]

Yes it can be a bit like a Peking opera performance.

[Cesare]

Yes it can be a bit like a Peking opera performance.

Well put. But it ain't necessarily a bad thing I think... Depending on personal tastes, of course... I liked that flag fight in Flag of Iron exactly for this "opera" feel to it...

[Morgoth Bauglir]

lol. what is it about the movie that you dont like?

Most venoms fans love Invincible Shaolin but the ending ruined it for me.

It didn't seem like there was any thought put into the story, and the fights are too short. Even Life gamble I found much more interesting than Flag of Iron. Lo Meng should have done some actual fighting other than that brief moment he gets, but I thought the daggers thing was actually pretty cool. I like movies with at least a little bit of thought put into it. Flag of Iron was just mindless, and if you are going to have a mindless movie, the fights should be better and longer than they are in flag of Iron. I just hate it. I went into it expecting greatness, and what I got was a dud.

[Iron_Jinon]

trailer of "ode to gallantry"looks really yummy,I dun dare to watch 6mins clip:eek:.Invincible shao-lin is terrific movie in beginning&in the end but in middlepart fight or two instead of extended training sessions would have made it classic.
I dun have complain about flagfight,love that movie,however acrobatics bothered me in Crippled Avengers.there was some moments 3 opera venoms got too heavily into somersaults etc.Strong performances by Chen Kuan Tai,Sun Chien and Lo Meng saved this movie.

[venoms5]

A difficult choice but as much as I love CRIPPLED AVENGERS, I'd have to say SHAOLIN RESCUERS as everyone gets to shine in one form or another and the finale has so much variety in its fight choreography and Lo, Kuo and Sun get to display some great chemistry between them as well as some unexpectedly good comical bits.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

A difficult choice but as much as I love CRIPPLED AVENGERS, I'd have to say SHAOLIN RESCUERS as everyone gets to shine in one form or another and the finale has so much variety in its fight choreography and Lo, Kuo and Sun get to display some great chemistry between them as well as some unexpectedly good comical bits.


you should listen to this guy oldeschool, he knows what he is talking about:D:p;)

I agree with you venoms5. shaolin Rescuers is also my #1, and Crippled Avengers is my #2.

[venoms5]

Thanks, Morgoth:) Even though Chang's later crew were for the most part, not well liked in HK, the venom movies brought something different to the table with each new film in terms of style, setting, characters and combat making the choice of picking a fave very difficult.

One thing I love about RESCUERS is it takes the conventions of the indy KF flick and gives it some substance. In so many of those movie it's always the same thing-at the opening, the main villain kills another master which leads to the intro of the young hero(s). The audience is then subjected to near endless scenes of often times annoying comedy shenanigans that add nothing to the film save for acting as filler till the big final fight. RESCUERS gives its principles humanity and a reason for being or at least gives them a WANT for reason for being. They desire a purpose and Chang Cheh gives them one and builds the characters around the comedy bits as opposed to the other way around.

[The Toad]

I have to say flag of iron would be my fav, however crippled avengers and five venoms are up there too.

[oldeschool17]

you should listen to this guy oldeschool, he knows what he is talking about:D:p;)

I agree with you venoms5. shaolin Rescuers is also my #1, and Crippled Avengers is my #2.

Crippled Avengers always will have a place in my heart cause I remember watching it when I was a kid and when i took martial arts, one of the guys and I would pretend to be like Kuo Chue and Lo Meng in the dojo:p. I think i was no more than 12 years old and he was an older hippy called Seaweed.

trailer of "ode to gallantry"looks really yummy,I dun dare to watch 6mins clip
That trailer is about the only coherent part of that movie! Some decent fights but terrible plot and wtf moments

[vengeanceofhumanlanterns]

Once you fall under the Venom's spell... they're all great.

[Iron_Jinon]

prolly "masked avengers" ia finest overall,I dun not like that villain gets killed during leap though but other some other venoms movies have used same cheap shot so not big deal...

[Iron_Jinon]

Action and choreography: 2 Champions of Shaolin. The fight between Lo Meng and Wang Li on the stage is awesome, and what a great finale from Lu Feng.

was maybe 1st venomflick I saw.Brilliant movie overlooked by some coz lack of Kuo Chui.It did not bother me one bit,gave more chance for others(his streetsmart unbeatable character takes always damn lot screentime)to display skills.
One thing I dun get,in various venom movies when heroes die at the end,they seem happy,even laughing.Do they believe they end up to paradise after passing away:eek:

[Tosh]

One thing I dun get,in various venom movies when heroes die at the end,they seem happy,even laughing.Do they believe they end up to paradise after passing away:eek:

These movies take place in a time where you put your honor before you life, and having a cause to die for was the best reason to live, take Shaolin Rescuers, Lo Mang And Kuo Chui talk about giving their lifes for the historical hero figure, they were basically peasants and thought if they could die for him they would be remembered, and that's exactly what they did:p

[Iron_Jinon]

These movies take place in a time where you put your honor before you life, and having a cause to die for was the best reason to live, take Shaolin Rescuers, Lo Mang And Kuo Chui talk about giving their lifes for the historical hero figure, they were basically peasants and thought if they could die for him they would be remembered, and that's exactly what they did:p
I was thinking sth like that must be case as they succeed killing enemies anyway..however it looked quite weird in "invincible shaolin" when chiang sheng smiled to kuo chui after gotten solid thrust to stomach:rolleyes:

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

For me it's hard to pick one above the rest. There are those I like and those I don't, with a few in the middle. I don't think I can pick one favorite as all those I love have a little somthing going for them.

The best of the best, definate must own:

Cripled avengers (Great characters and acrobatic fights, the final fight between Lu Feng, Chiang Sheng and Kwok Chui is just pure eye candy)
Rebel Intruders (Amazing fights, awesome final, good story)
Daredevils (IMO one of the best developed story for a venoms movie, great fights)
Invincible Shaolin (Great characters, love the theme music, good fights, great interaction between the characters.)
Shaolin Rescuers ( Lots of fights, good story, Lu Feng's best performance ever in the final fight, simply amazing, Everyone makes it to the final fight!!!)


Great works, definately worth geting:

Magnificient Ruffians (Good film, fights not on par with the best, but still good, probably the best of this group)
Five venoms (Great concept, great characters, not enough fights)
Masked avengers (Great atmosphere, awesome final fight)
House of traps (to much flaws, fights are to short, but what there is, is amazing, the house itself is kinda cool)


Average efforts, but worth checking out:

Kid with the golden arm: (didn't do it for me, barely average)
Flag of Iron : (Although good final fight, pretty boring overall)
Sword stained with royal blood: (Good fights, painfull to sit through)

The bottom of the barril, definately can pass on those:
Ten Tigers of Kwantung: (Probably the worst, a complete mess)
Ode to gallantry: (Never seen it but never heard one good comment about it.)

I have also yet to see:
Legend of the fox
Life gamble

How are those?

[Iron_Jinon]

Music in "invincible shaolin" is indeed great(well,so is everything else in movie)..and you did not mention "2 champions of shaolin",it has one of best end brawls,Lu Feng delivers 'again*impressive trident work and his henchmen show some good monkey kung-fu..
legend of the fox will not qualify into best 7 venom movies but it`s still above average movie.*I still have magnificent ruffians&ode to gallantry unseen*

[jmungus]

I have also yet to see:
Legend of the fox
Life gamble

How are those?

browsing this threads pages n checking ppl`s rankings should give u a good idea.
in mine (page 2) LotF ranks at 6/17; LG comes in last, but is still worth checkin out imo.

[Iron_Jinon]

browsing this threads pages n checking ppl`s rankings should give u a good idea.
in mine (page 2) LotF ranks at 6/17; LG comes in last, but is still worth checkin out imo.
I dunno is heaven&hell really considered as venom movie but if yes must be worst ...only good thing in flick is flashback fight between lu feng and kuo chui and some good kicks by sun chien.it`s trash but not even enjoyable one.

[oldeschool17]

I have also yet to see:
Legend of the fox
Life gamble

How are those?
Just to gauge how i rate my venoms films:
Crippled Avengers, Masked Avengers, 5 Element Ninjas(not full on venoms films, but whatever) get a solid 10/10
Flag of Iron(morgoth will agree) & Magnificent Ruffians: 9/10
Shaolin Rescuers, Rebel Intruders, House of Traps, Five Venoms, Sword Stained With Royal Blood=7-8/10
2 Champions of Shaolin, Invincible Shaolin, Kid with the Golden Arm= 6/10
10 Tigers from Kwangtung: 2/10


Legend of the Fox= If you liked Sword Stained With Royal Blood, you will like this. I think the pacing is a bit better than Sword Stained with Royal Blood and theres more fighting thru out the film than in Sword Stained With Royal Blood(which most of the fighting comes near the end). I went into watching this with no expectations and it was decent, but not the best by any means.
I rate this 7.5 or 8/10

Ode to Gallantry= Crapfest. One of the weaker Venoms films by far. Get only if you want to complete your venoms collection. The ending is just retarded. This is 3/10 with the action that is present the only redeeming factor.

Life Gamble=Kung Fu Spaghetti Western with Daggers instead of pistols. You get to witness Lo Meng wear a bad wig and use daggers. To me Kuo Chu steals the show although it kind was more geared as a Fu Sheng vehicle. Chiang Sheng has very lil air time and Lu Feng looks like Zorro in the beginning. If you're looking for non stop action this is not the movie. Its a lil more dialogue driven than pure action. Kuo Chu does kick some ass near the end. Most Venom fans are split on this movie but i liked it. I give it a 7/10

[Iron_Jinon]

2 Champions of Shaolin, Invincible Shaolin, Kid with the Golden Arm= 6/10:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:..I agree your 9/10 abt flag of iron though

[Iron_Jinon]

6. Chinatown Kid

movie has it`s moments..watched few days ago "happy end" version and it was not so bad,but cut dialogue disturbed.,fights are not so good in this flick but overall feel and story is very good methinks.

[Tosh]

The only movie I haven't seen is Life Gamble, For me they're all must owns but I rather enjoyed Heaven and Hell, it's certianly something different and Lee I Min is in great form.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Heaven and Hell is a lot of fun. And Lee I Min has a small but really good role in Life Gamble. I thought Life gamble was boring, but I still enjoyed it. 6/10 rating from me, almost the same rating that oldeschool gave it.:eek: ;)

[Iron_Jinon]

it`s really pretty hard for me to rate best as everytime I rewatch seems I discover something new...but I think voting "masked avengers","2 champions of shaolin" and "kid with golden arm" not unfair.feels like more than after last view.

[Endsang]

Man, I still haven't seen Masked Avengers.. Only seen the finale on youtube and it was INTENSE. It definately tops my to-get list. The three villains are Wong Lik, Chu Ko and Lu Feng, right?

[Iron_Jinon]

I saw final too from youtube before got whole item..and seeing those clips really destroy something...that is why I dun watch Ode To Gallantry clip

[oldeschool17]

Man, I still haven't seen Masked Avengers.. Only seen the finale on youtube and it was INTENSE. It definately tops my to-get list. The three villains are Wong Lik, Chu Ko and Lu Feng, right?
Thats correct

[The Dragon]

Invincible Shaolin

The Crippled Avengers

The Masked Avengers

The Five Venoms

Kid With The Golden Arm

If you saw no other Venoms fare, these would suffice.
Action, intrigue, set & costume design, these features have it all. :D

[Endsang]

To be honest I don't really understand why so many people like KWTGA. The story was way too messy, and although some of the fights were alright, I've seen all the venoms do a lot better. All in all, I just wasn't as intrigued while watching this in comparison with the other venoms flicks I've seen. Maybe I should see the remastered version before I judge it completely, but I've watched my DVD twice now and it didn't do much.

I also wish there were a bit more hand to hand fights in some of the venoms movies, like there was in 5 venoms. The trident work in Masked Avengers is awesome though. Was something hypnotizing about Chu Ko's moves when he came down on the pillar in the final fight.

[Iron_Jinon]

"more hand to hand fights"it pretty much depends does lo meng or sun chien stay in business to the end.Opera trained trio seems to do most weapons stuff,Invincible Shaolin rare item lu feng stays unarmed(but that does not make him less dangerous) through whole movie.
Sword Stained With Royal Blood features maybe least hand to hand fighting but for those who enjoy sword fights it`s bliss.

[oldeschool17]

To be honest I don't really understand why so many people like KWTGA. The story was way too messy, and although some of the fights were alright, I've seen all the venoms do a lot better. All in all, I just wasn't as intrigued while watching this in comparison with the other venoms flicks I've seen. Maybe I should see the remastered version before I judge it completely, but I've watched my DVD twice now and it didn't do much.

I also wish there were a bit more hand to hand fights in some of the venoms movies, like there was in 5 venoms. The trident work in Masked Avengers is awesome though. Was something hypnotizing about Chu Ko's moves when he came down on the pillar in the final fight.

The remastered version of Kid with the Golden Arm only includes a few minutes in the beginning and changes the sequence where Iron Robe sends out a signal. With that said, i highly doubt you need to watch the remastered version to get a different opinion. I think Silver Spear next to Golden Arm were the best characters in the movie.

[The Dragon]

And your Kuo Chu avatars are cool, OS. Are you the same OS with the old Avatar with the guy playing the instrament? Lol, that used to crack me up...

[oldeschool17]

And your Kuo Chu avatars are cool, OS. Are you the same OS with the old Avatar with the guy playing the instrament? Lol, that used to crack me up...
Thanks dragon. Yep im the same oldeschool17 from the old forum;)

[tai_shin_mun]

It`s funny when asked best venom flick people drop long list of titles instead of naming just one...
Flag Of Iron in full version is fucking masterpiece(pity about mono sound in IVL disc),stay away from cut bastard english dub.

[The Dragon]

Does that mean, Tai_Shin_Mun, you prefer the Dolby Digital 5.1 remixed audios?
:rolleyes:

[sammofan]

Crippled Avengers