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Hermeskungfu
11-08-2007, 04:07 PM
I got this from Vengeance. The subtitles are very difficult to read and the print is grainy, in addition 90% of the film is drama (though a rather good one, the photography / direction is good for the period). But what brings this alive is every time Philip Ko is on screen and his final fight with Hwang Jang Lee is one of the best I have ever seen. It appears evenly matched and either (in 'reality') could have won. Hwang is in great form and Philip Ko knows his kung fu. If you haven't seen it - worth watching.

This link has some good stills:
http://www.thestuntpeople.com/articles/tigeroverwall.htm

I'll post the final fight to YouTube over the weekend.
Just got Invincible Armour with John Liu. What a great week for films this is turning out to be.

WhiteTiger1
11-08-2007, 04:41 PM
One of My favorite's
There's better quality out there, I have about 3 different copies of this film, video/dvd/dvd-r full screen and wide-screen.. Go shopping worth it just for the finale fight scene..:cool:

WalkOn
11-08-2007, 06:07 PM
One of my all time favorites, starring two of my top favorite stars. The movie is low on action so be warned, but it's a good story and cast. The finale alone was worth the price of admission (or vcd/dvd). I saw this film on 42nd St in NY. I love the poster for this movie with the negative images of Wang Jang Lee and Philip Ko faces. Simple but very cool.

Morgoth
11-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Yeah the finale is out of this world good. My favorite Hwang Jang Lee kicking performance.

5 Element Boxer
11-08-2007, 09:17 PM
I've been watching this movie alot lately on the Brooklyn Zu Vol. 1 collection DVD that I recently picked up. Lot of good fight scenes in it. The finale is really good. The quality looks like it was a straight transfer from an old widescreen laserdisc. English dubbed also.

Philip Ko never dissapoints when on screen. Tht's why I've been trying to watch all of his movies lately.

AlbertV
11-11-2007, 04:45 PM
I loved in the film how Philip Ko, a champion in Japanese karate, uses Mantis fists in the film and this is by far one of the best superkicking performances by Hwang Jang-Lee. I loved the move where Hwang leaps over a table and hits Ko with a side kick mid-air and his triple kick is always impressive.

Yakuza954
11-11-2007, 05:16 PM
Philip Ko never dissapoints when on screen. Tht's why I've been trying to watch all of his movies lately.
Good luck. Seeing all of Phillip Ko's movies is like climbing the Mount Everest of kung fu movies. The guy made so many.

Morgoth
11-11-2007, 05:47 PM
He is really good in Ninja Terminator where he fights Richard Harrison in the final fight:p

WalkOn
11-11-2007, 06:33 PM
"I loved in the film how Philip Ko, a champion in Japanese karate, uses Mantis fists in the film"

I only heard about Philip Ko being a Karate Instructor/champion in the intro of Duel of the 7 Tigers. Can anyone confirm if this is true or if Philip Ko or anyone else ever mentions his martial arts background? I've always wanted to know. He's one of my favorites as well.

5 Element Boxer
11-11-2007, 08:25 PM
Philip Ko is a practitioner of Chinese Kung Fu in real life. I have a DVD with an interview and demonstration by him (in the special features). You can see it in a few of the Video Asia releases. Dude's got serious skills. I don't know anything about him knowing Karate though.

Yakuza954
11-12-2007, 08:29 AM
I also remember reading the blurb at the beginning of Duel of the 7 Tigers that said he studied Karate. I thought it was pretty trustworthy since the information about all the other actors seems to match up with what's already been confirmed online about them. If he did study Karate however, he didn't really do a good job showing it in Duel of the 7 Tigers. It sucked compared to his shapes in other movies. But than again, who would guess Johnny Wang's real-life martial arts was karate by watching his movies? Ko probably practices both Karate and Chinese martial arts.

Oh and btw, Philip Ko as a Japananese villain ranks up there with Lo Lieh in Chinese Connection 2 and Chen Kuan Tai with an ugly ass wig in Bloody fists, as the worse choices for Japanese villains ever. Not even a blind man from Yemen would mistake these guys as Japanese.

TheManInWhite
11-12-2007, 02:18 PM
Am I the only one who is not crazy about the plot to this movie? Also, the ridiculous Chan Lau drags this movie down IMO. Don't get me wrong - the fights are great, especially the finale. The movie improves every time Philip Ko is present but outside of that, this film doesn't move me.

Morgoth
11-12-2007, 08:55 PM
You are not the only one Man in White. the plot sucks big balls. I thought Chan Lau played his role very well, as did everyone else. I also thought the directing job was superb. But the story is godawful. All that crap over someone's dog missing? Just plain stupid.

Bus
11-13-2007, 02:07 AM
now if they stole his weed, stepped on his new school shoes, or talked about his momma it would've been a more believable movie.. all valid reasons to hurt somebody

5 Element Boxer
11-13-2007, 06:17 AM
I thought the plot was about some official looking for a lost dog. lol

Hermeskungfu
11-13-2007, 07:32 AM
I haven't checked this but the Vengeance video blurb says it was based on real events. Isn't the whole point that the gwailo dog was considered more important than a Chinese life and (as is not exactly unknown today) when they couldn't find what happened to it they fitted up some poor sap to take the fall. It makes good use of exterior locations and a very grim prison. Personally I found it all too believable and the brilliant end fight between Ko and Hwang a real bonus.

ironfistedmonk
11-13-2007, 08:51 AM
I find it amazing that they can make such an entertaining film from such a stupid plot point! I asked the question on the old KFF what happened to Rover but no one could help me, I have made it my life's mission to find out what happened to that poor dog :)

This is a top film IMO, the cast are great, the fights are brilliant, the village is down and dirty and like Hermes said the prison looks a proper nasty place to be in with those sadistic officials.

Morgoth
11-13-2007, 10:13 AM
Dont you remember, Chan Lau said he ate the dog. :p But seriously, they never explained what happened to the dog. Other than the awesome fights, my favorite scene is where Ko and his family are walking down the streets to go take revenge. You could feel their anger.

Iron_Jinon
11-20-2007, 06:00 AM
Just got Invincible Armour
had this on vhs,must get it on dvd.what a movie!hwang jang lee`s pai mei lookalike villain is definitely best character,tino wong excellent too.john liu for some reason did not appear to me as much as in some his other films but still 4,5/5.