Dragon Dynasty's Shaw Brothers releases

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Release date for the first batch of DD Shaws was 4/10/07(36th Chamber, My Young Auntie, One-Armed Swordsman, King Boxer). But none have been released. All sites show that release date and all show backordered. Whats the deal? Why the delay, did I miss something?

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Nevermind, According to the DD website their do in June instead. Why do all of the web retailers (still) have them listed as april 10th?

[Linn1]

is up at DVDBeaver. Damn they need to update that intro though. I forgot I wrote it for them all those years ago! And it STILL is missing a couple of words! :o


Review (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/36thchamber.htm)

[morgoth]

Pic quality looks like Image's Leg Weapons release. Oh man I cant wait to get this!

And Gordon Liu plays General Chin in the movie?:lol

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Sounds good. Damnit, too bad I already have the Celestial.:\ The extras dont looking interesting enough to warrant a double dip on this one. Interviews, music video and commentary featuring the RZA not worth another $15 to me. Still makes me happy to finally see these hitting the shelfs here.

[oldeschool17]

Good thing i didnt get the celestial release.

[killer meteor]

Looks fantastic. Annoying that DVD Beaver seems to be impying the remix is more important than the mono though.

Looks like DD has finally hit a home-run - assuming it's got the original English track

[kungfusamurai]

They indicated that the Celestial DVD was anamorphic. Was it? I thought it was a low bit-rate non-anamorphic release. It looks like the Weinstein DVD won't suffer from the ghosting that plagued the Celestial DVD. I haven't dug out my French version. I think Wild Side did a good job on that one too.

KFS

[killer meteor]

Celstial's 36th Chamber was done by blowing up their non-anamorphic master (not a great idea but OK) but the contrast and edge enhancement was screwy. Celestial fixed this problem for most of their subsequent anamorphic releases but all their DVDs suffer from poor standards conversions

[Chen Zhen]

rza commentary? im sold! good thing i dont have the celestial either

[dndcollect]

hell, i'll take a audio commentary for a shaw brothers film from a crack head if he knew what he was talking about.

RZA seems to know his s**t.

I have the celestia, the crash, the red sun, and a taped from tv.

i am buying this one no question.

finally getting what i want with the extras.

im stunned, and the pic quality is even better?

finally a US company at least seems to be stepping up.

[drunkenmantis13]

Well, everything seems more than perfect! That's just awesome! No talk about the dub, but if it's the original one...i'm buying ALL the DD's!

[strutr74]

Looks like I'm dipping again:)

[sevenhooks]

Besides the original dub, does anyone know if DD is using the original trailer?
I would think that should be fairly easy to do since it was available on the Celestial disc.
But then again, I said the same thing about Image's Legendary Weapons and no dice.

Crossing fingers.

[sevenhooks]

No talk about the dub, but if it's the original one...i'm buying ALL the DD's!

That's the key for me (and for a lot of other folks I know).
Hopefully they get it right.
If so, I'll be scooping up every release they put out as well.
If not, I'll be sticking to my Celestial's (ala Heaven and Hell).

[PaulyOne]

while I am glad to have any review on this disc, this has to be one of the least informative reviews I have read... so many questions about this disc left unanswered

[dndcollect]

new dubs=vanilla ice

[chen lung]

Excluding the unconfirmed English dub (and it's mono status) for the moment, the fact that only mono seems to be present (likely in answer to the negative remixes) has to be commended! Celestial supply original ones most of the time (with known exceptions), plus DD probably made sure too - so chances are likely it's included.

It's the IVL DVD (which I rid of months in advance knowing... ;) ), not Celestial (the latter only provide the materials). Common misconception. Celestial provided a rubbish PAL>NTSC transfer to IVL whereas DD managed to get it done properly - the difference is clear (shame the same couldn't be done for Image).

Head-bags scene is cut on the IVL DVD for about 2 seconds - probably the same here (Crash is uncut I believe).

Cantonese maybe still redubbed when Gordon and Wilson exchange their views on monks commiting murder (in the forest). It was either missing/damaged sources, deliberate redubbing (on account of logic) or because it was dropped for the reissued version (Mandarin of course being original and complete-sounding).

Attempting to verify some of the aforementioned queries about the DVD with a contact. Will try to let you know soon.

Didn't like this film but it might find itself in my next order ;) . Will get 'King Boxer' however (one of my few favourite Shaws), not seen 'One-Armed Swordsman' whilst 'My Young Auntie' was just too lame (action was 1st class all the way) and could be in Mandarin too.

[bobo]

QUESTION FOR LINN: if the 50 DD shaw movies sell well --will they get additional tittles ? just curious.

[Linn1]

they'll pick up any other titles.

[bobo]

thanks.

[chen lung]

It is possible providing they do well. But it's generally hard to generate success out of Shaws so you're right in that way Linn. See what happens :) ...

[killer meteor]

Yeah, there does seem to be a curse on companies releasing Shaws!

[oldeschool17]

somebody should contact dvdbeaver and ask about the dubs and english dub. that website looks like a mess to navigate.

[gfanikf]

I'll have me review copies in a day or two, but I hope this will suffice you for the moment :) . I'll be doing caps and also audio clips via youtube along with the regular reviews.

Courtesy of Jay Spear

www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums...044&page=4 (http://www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21044&page=4)

The One Armed Swordsman

Extras:
The Master: Chang Cheh- 17:30 minutes...looks to me like a port over from the R3 SB dvds.

Trailers:

Original English: Seven Blows of the Dragon, Street Gangs of HK, Duel of the Iron Fists, and The Chinese Professionals.

Original Chinese trailers: Boxer From Shantung, Chinese Boxer, Crippled Avengers, The New One Armed Swordsman, Return of the One Armed Swordsman, Vengeance.

Interviews- Jimmy Yu Wang- 10:55min

Andy Klein and David Chute-8:08min

Subtitles- English, Spanish, English for Hearing Impaired

Audio(according to my dvd player) Mandarin 2.0, English 2.0, commentary track.

Quentin Tarantino is nowhere to be found on the dvd, despite what it says on the packaging.



My Young Auntie

Extras: Interview with Kara Hui 13:03
Interview with David Chute and Andy Klein.

Trailers:
Original Chinese: Blood Brothers, Buddha's Palm, Dirty Ho, Heroes of the East, Lady is the Boss, Mad Monkey Kung Fu

Subtitles: English, Spanish, English for hearing impaired

Audio: Mandarin 2.0, English 2.0, commentary

There are also some bios and stills on each dvd. Sorry if I made any goofs, did this on the fly.

Hope this helps guys.

Both dvds sound like Mandarin and Old School English dubs to me, but I'm no expert. Sorry but I'm also don't have the skills to check if they are interlaced or progressive, or if they PAL to NTSC conversions.

King Boxer Specs..

Interview with Chang-Wa Jeong

Interview with action director Lau Kar Wing.

Trailers:

English Five Fingers of Death trailer, which looks like a 8th gen Chinatown rental. I'm having flashbacks.

There's the alternate Five Fingers of Death opening title sequence on the dvd.

Original Chinese Trailers: Clan of the White Lotus, Executioners from Shaolin, Golden Swallow, Invincible Fist, Killer Clans

There's a Magic Blade trailer but it looks like a new restored trailer like those found on the R3 releases.

The specs for audio are just like the other 2.....2.0 Mandarin and English, with English subs, Spanish subs and English FHI subs.

[chen lung]

Mandarin 2.0
Bollocks :( ...

No mention of the UK featurette for 'King Boxer', must have been a change.

[gfanikf]

Yeah, but luckily I'm a philistine and will most likely watch it in English anyway ;) .

Still I'm very happy with the alt credits for FFingers of Death being there, plus it gets the most interviews of any of the films.

[chen lung]

Still I'm very happy with the alt credits for FFingers of Death being there
Are they a copy of the EPI DVD with the false 'Five Fingers of Death' inserted alongside the export English credits?

Are any signs/credits/trailers translated in subs? Glad to see mono for everything!

[gfanikf]

Not sure.

I'll make sure to check when I get my copies (I hope by tomorrow or Wednesday).

[HANZOSTEEL]

I dont buy it guys sorry. at least on all points. I had a few minutes so i popped in my own celestial region 3
release of 36th Chamber of Shaolin and took a screencap. It is nowhere NEAR as dull as DVDBeaver
is trying to make it seem. I did not retouch the image i took at all in fact it seems brighter than the image
they posted claiming the Weinstein v is superior. It may be but i just thought that i would tell you what i saw.

On top is the Screen Cap i took and on the bottom is how they tryng to tell people it is. What are the +'s
for buying the DD Release really the audio commentary?

http://pHosted.com/0706/Image1b.jpg

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/36thchamber/28_23.jpg

[chen lung]

Extras, mono soundtracks, (presumably) English dub, cleaned-up subtitles.

DD has a proper PAL>NTSC transfer unlike IVL which has a lousy one.

[m burlock]

Where can I find that list of 50 Shaw titles that DD has and their R1 release dates? I looked over 7-8 pages and didn't find what I was looking for.

[inchilottaP]

Their is no list.

Basically they have mostly Venoms/LKL stuff from what i've read around these parts.


I'm sure someone will come up with a nice speculative fake list like these ones of films celestial won't ever release like 5 Element Ninjas. :lol

[drunkenmantis13]

No really, wasn`t there a list of the 50 titles on here a few days ago? While at work today i was also thinking about asking for it when i come back...

[Markgway]

I won't be buying MYA (for obvious reasons...) but T36COS sounds fine and if OAS and KB are on a par I'll consider these to. Shame the extras are so bad (apart from a couple of the cast/crew interviews). I think the French DVDs had much better. Considering how long it's taken these DVDs to get out it's not terribly impressive but the A/V quality is the most important thing and it seems they've got that right on 3/4 titles (pending). Amen. The fact is though: I've already got all four films from IVL so the DDs are gonna need to be strong bargains for me to double-dip. Where's the cheapest place to get them? I'm looking to spend around a fiver (£).

[HANZOSTEEL]

Hm, im with you guys im not going to buy it i already own everything. I also agree with Markgway now
the french did it right. French DVD'S had exclusive interviews with directors and actors. Perzonally i
would rather buy a french version of EFShaolin before i ever buy 36th Chamber. Escpecially since 2
relatively uknown commentators are the ones that are commenting on the film which would be the
only reason i would have bought it. RZA and Andy Klein? Really i would at least hope for more than
this especially after seeing ''old school kung fu with Wu tang Clan'' where the entire group was
commenting on the Kung Fu movies. It would be different if they had some special inside information
on the movie which i would really want to hear. But for every other comment to end with ''You know
what im saying?'' or ''Word to the God'' etc... i dont know i just want more than that. I would settle for
Bey Logan he's great. We all know what RZA has done but what about Andy Klein who is this?

[oldeschool17]

compiled by margway
13 BELOVED
36TH CHAMBER OF SHAOLIN
AVENGING EAGLE
A BETTER TOMORROW (Anchor Bay apparently lost this title) A BETTER TOMORROW II (see above)
BORN TO FIGHT
BULLET IN THE HEAD
THE CITY OF VIOLENCE
A CHINESE ODYSSEY: CINDERELLA
A CHINESE ODYSSEY: PANDORA'S BOX
COME DRINK WITH ME
CRIME STORY
CRIPPLED AVENGERS
DIRTY HO (I expect a title change here - remember the problems with LAPUTA? I can't picture Wal-Mart stocking DIRTY HO.)
DRAGON FROM RUSSIA
DRAGON HEAT (once again, this is not a typo, it's the notorious Eric Kot movie)
DRAGON SQUAD
DRAGON TIGER GATE
DRUNKEN MONKEY
EIGHT DIAGRAM POLE FIGHTER
EXECUTIONERS FROM SHAOLIN
FIST OF LEGEND
FIVE DEADLY VENOMS
FIVE SHAOLIN MASTERS
THE FLYING GUILLOTINE
FULL ALERT
GOD OF COOKERY
HAPKIDO
HARD-BOILED
HEROES OF THE EAST (SHAOLIN CHALLENGES NINJA) INFERNAL AFFAIRS II
INFERNAL AFFAIRS III
THE KILLER KING BOXER (FIVE FINGERS OF DEATH)
KING OF COMEDY (Uncut? In the United States? It simply ain't gonna happen with this one. )
LOVE ASIA (not actually a movie, this is a "sexy models" type of thing featuring Maggie Q)
MAD MONKEY KUNG FU
MARTIAL ARTS OF SHAOLIN THE MASTER (the Jet Li movie previously relased by Dimension)
MILLIONAIRES EXPRESS
MY BLUEBERRY NIGHTS
MY YOUNG AUNTIE
NIGHTMARE DETECTIVE (all US/UK/AU rights)
NO MERCY FOR THE RUDE
THE ONE ARMED SWORDSMAN
ONG BAK II
POLICE STORY (released, uncut)
POLICE STORY II PTU (Palm Pictures had this for a very short period of time)
RETURN TO THE 36TH CHAMBER OF SHAOLIN
RIGHTING WRONGS
ROYAL TRAMP
ROYAL TRAMP II
SEVEN SWORDS (released, uncut)
SHANGHAI, SHANGHAI
SHAOLIN WOODEN MEN
SKINNY TIGER, FATTY DRAGON
SNAKE AND CRANE ARTS OF SHAOLIN
SPL (released as KILLZONE, uncut)
THE TAI CHI MASTER
TOM YUM GOONG (released as THE PROTECTOR , contains both the THE PROTECTOR cut and the original version)
THE VICTIM (I assume the Ringo Lam film)

[kungfusamurai]

Someone mentioned that Last Hurrah For Chivalry was also part of their release schedule (yeah, I know it's not Shaws, but since we're listing all of the DD films anyway).

KFS

[Markgway]

Andy Klein did the commentary for Master of the Flying Guillotine. Yet amazingly he was hired to do another.

[Markgway]

That list isn't mine btw. :|

[oldeschool17]

oh whoops. erroenous monk i meant

[UrbanKungFu]

Friends and fellow collectors - Actually, the first batch is out already. I just purchased "King Boxer" with a commentary with non other than Quentin Tarantino. Also an interview with Chang - Hwa Jeong (Director for King Boxer). The picture and scope are from the Celestial prints. The great thing is that ALL these Shaw titles feature the ORIGINAL ENGLISH DUB (mono). Special features (very poor quality I must say) are the english trailers to King Boxer "5 Fingers of Death" and the U.S. opening to the film as "5 Fingers of Death".

The trailers are horrible considering the fact that this company should have had access to better prints (I have the trailers on DVD and 16mm and they are super clean (they should have asked me LOL!)

But the main feature is fantastic and the english track (although mono) is clean and quiet.

Peace!

Hector Martinez

[Brigadier Chow]

Where did you get it, I thought they were coming out the 19th?

[GwaiLoMoFo]

I havent seen any out in stores yet. But I have held every one of the new dvd's in my hand though :D . A buddy of mine runs a dvd distribution and production buisness. I was in his shop today and he let me check em out. Technically he could'nt let me have them before their official release date ;) .

[oldeschool17]

Technically he could'nt let me have them before their official release date
He's not a friend then. haha just kiddin. Lookin forward to the release

[Shaolin Patriot]

I just purchased "King Boxer" with a commentary with non other than Quentin Tarantino.
This may be a silly question, but did Tarantino sound like he did his research for the commentary and knew what he was talking about?

[chen lung]

Hey mate

Was there an interview with Lau Kar Wing? Is the sound in-sync (since Celestial cut the hell out of it)? Shame a cleaner trailer like yours couldn't have been used (or even to appeal to collectors/fans on forums e.t.c) :( . I own 16mm 'Hammer Of God' teaser, 35mm German 'Boxer Rebellion' trailer and 35mm '7 Blows Of The Dragon' trailer. For non-Shaws, I have super-8 German 'Drunken Master' trailer and 35mm 'Lady Kung Fu' trailer.

[UrbanKungFu]

Tarantino's commentary was nothing new. He sounded very much like an average fan's point of view of the film then went on to follow David Chute & Elvis Mitchell's more "sophisticated" breakdown of the film. I was laughing my head off the way those three were "breaking" down the film into a political conversation and at times sounding like they were talking about "Fritz lang's "Metropolis" or Orson Well's "Citizen Kane"!!!!

Come on, it's a good old school Kung Fu joint not "Gone with the Wind", there was no need using words that I don't recall seeing in the dictionary!!!!!

I purchased the films at Kim's Video Underground (8th street & St. Marks) in Manhattan of course.

Peace!

Hector Martinez

[morgoth]

Damn this is long. I am only 95 minutes in. This movie has EVERYBODY! Great flick. English dub and Cantonese sounds very good and picture quality is about as perfect as can be.

[morgoth]

I give this movie an 8/10. I liked it a little more than Legendary Weapons. Kind of weird that Kara Hui didn't participate in the final fight at all, but that fight between Lung Wei and Lau Kar Leung was a short masterpiece. The interview with Kara Hui is very enjoyable. There are 6 or 7 original trailers. And the commentary blows major booty. How hard is it to get real knowledgable fans of these movies to do commentaries? They should at least get people who know who actors like Kwan Young Moon and Wilson tong are. I only watched like the first 15 minutes with the commentary on and then went to the final fight.

It would havee helped if one of these guys would have seen Executioners of Shaolin and maybe they wouldn't have made fun of the breath control. That is where I had to stop listening. I only listened to 20 minutes or so in total.

[killer meteor]

Apparently, DD's put Mandarin instead of the correct Cantonese on the disc. Could it be the press info is wrong and they've put Cantonese on unknowingly?

[raider yang]

It came as quite a shock to see all of the old original trailers on all 4 of the discs. Not just for the featured films but original trailers for titles like Buddhas Palm, Killer Clans, Clans of the White Lotus, Golden Swallow, Crippled Avengers, Shaolin Mantis and many many more. I never had the pleasure to see the originals for any of these films so again I'm quite impressed with the extra legwork DD went through in serving up the extras on these discs.

Oh and not to forget the original english dubs either which are very clear and cleaned up to a high level.:D

[oldeschool17]

with those trailers mentioned, does that mean this is an indication of the future releases in store for dragon dynasty?

[raider yang]

I was also wondering that myself, but theres at least 10 trailers on each disc, most are original, the others are the new Celestial trailers.

I can't see DD releasing Buddhas Palm being not so much a well known film but who knows.

[morgoth]

I have no idea. I just figured it was Cantonese. I have to admit that I only listened to the Chinese language for about 10 minutes and the rest of I watched English dubbed. They don't translate when Gordon Liu is singing so I had to switch over to the subs for that.

[morgoth]

Yeah, the original trailers are a really nice bonus.

[chen lung]

this was complete garbage for me.

[oldeschool17]

elaborate more chen lung

[Markgway]

According to a poster at the ADVDG it's the Mandarin dub. No Cantonese track. Doh! And he reckons the subs aren't terribly good either. Sticking with my IVL, thanks.

[chen lung]

elaborate more chen lung
Kara Hui marely moves her arm and 40 guys fall over. Comedy is really lame, the silly costume thing with Gordon's extended cameo too. Gets really tedious but the final fight and Kara/Hsiao Hou attempting to get to Wang Lung Wei's residence is fantastic.

[PaulyOne]

I could not disagree more chen lung, for me this is one of the greatest martial arts movies of all time, top 10 shaw brothers for sure and the second best lau kar leung directorial effort

I found the comedy to be stupid and silly, but in a totally endearing way, so I loved it

kara hui is incredible in this and so gorgeous

its a shame about the mandarin audio. isn't this obvious though? what the hell were DD thinking (or celestial for probably providing the wrong track)?

[Tosh]

I love this movie, LKL has a way of stretching the comedy a little to far sometimes, but it really fit in this movie, Gordon dancing around shaking his ass playing guitar:lol , the swashbuckler scene with the goofy wigs, Kara and Hsiao pulls off some great sexual tension, then that ending8o
Not sure I can rank it over LWoC.
I went in to BBuy to get 36th Chamber, almost picked this up but grabbed King Boxer instead since I haven't seen it remastered yet.

[sevenhooks]

LOVE the OG trailers.
Amazing (not to mention ironic) that DD had no problem getting all these great original trailers when Celestial rarely even bothers to add the OG trailer for their own releases.

EVERYTHING is on point about these DD releases so far.
I plan to buy every Shaw film they release if they keep this up.

Only wish they'd get better commentary guys.
They might be nice guys buy Andy Klein and Elvis Mitchell obviously know VERY little about these films and their personel.

Linn, as mentioned before would be great.
Perhaps Linn paired up with another board member would be great.

[oldeschool17]

yeah, someone like Linn would be great for dragon dynasty. Linn, forward dragon dynasty this thread and attach your resume, we need you on the inside!

I just sent this email to dragon dynasty:
Dear Bey,
Please use your power to get rid of Andy Klein, Elvis Mitchell, or any other individual that doesnt have a strong grasp of kung fu cinema like you do. Its a shame when RZA is more keyed into the genre then the other mentioned individuals. You guys should do some promos or recruiting of fans that know their kung fu cinema and let them help on the commentary for your dvds. Might I suggest a person like Linn Hayes, who you can easily find on this messageboard going by the screename: Linn1
pub3.ezboard.com/fkungfufandomfrm24 (http://pub3.ezboard.com/fkungfufandomfrm24)
Thanks -Dan

[Fatty Dragon]

Does anyone know if One Armed Swordsman has the english dub?

[kungfusamurai]

Are the same trailers on every disc (i.e. overlap) or are there different trailers depending on what DVD you get?

KFS

[kungfusamurai]

This movie gets better and better when I watch it. On first viewing, the dance scene was annoying. But after watching it a couple of other times, I really enjoy this film. It's a movie that would probably appeal to non-martial arts fans too.

KFS

[Markgway]

One of my favourite Liu films. The comedy and characters work nicely alongside the Kung Fu.

[raider yang]

Does anyone know if One Armed Swordsman has the english dub?

Yes it does.

[raider yang]

Are the same trailers on every disc (i.e. overlap) or are there different trailers depending on what DVD you get?

Its cool, because every disc has different trailers. The OG Shaolin Mantis trailer has to be the best I've seen yet. I can not remember which disc has it but with demonstrations by LKL himself, you really cant beat it.:D

[Linn1]

thanks for the kind words guys. I got my copies of these today and pretty much go with what Sevenhooks wrote. There's some stuff on the extras that certainly don't jibe, but I'm not going to go through and pick them apart. As for myself, some news is coming.

[inchilottaP]

I plan to buy every Shaw film they release if they keep this up.

Same here.

36 Chambers is my least favorite LKL flick and I already have the OAS boxset but i'm gonna grab these two anyways just on the principle of original english dub inclusion and proper PAL->NTSC .

[sevenhooks]

The OG Shaolin Mantis trailer has to be the best I've seen yet.

YES!! Excellent trailer. Kinda in the style of Heroes Two.
Love this sort of stuff.
Who was it that was recently blasting our love and interest for the original trailers??
They just couldn't comprehend WHY anyone would even care about such things. :rolleyes
Hats off to the folks at DD for putting in this kind of effort.
Otherwise I doubt we'd EVER see such trailers.

Someone needs to think about putting together a comp DVD of all the Shaw trailers they can find (ala the "Fistful of Trailers" DVD full of spaghetti western previews).
There's enough out there now for at least one volume - possibly two.

[Chen Zhen]

dont worry Brother Chen, i got ur back on this lol.......action aside, this movie is borderline unbearable.......the comedy is REALLY lame at times, and hsiao hou has never been more annoying on screen. the story had an interesting premise, but this was a very annoying movie to sit thru.

gets no higher than a 3/5 from me

[magicpoe]

Sevenhooks,

I got you covered sevenhooks, I started making a DVD last night that will be longer than the DVD I created for several members last year here on the forum. My goal is to use dual layer discs for 8 GB worth of trailers.

Yes, there have been 8GB worth of original trailers released so far.

I'll need a week or so to do this in the manner that I'll be satisified with in the end, but I'll let the forum know when it's ready.

I bought all 4 of the Dragon Dynasty discs and somehow missed the original Shaolin Mantis trailer. Would someone tell me what disc it's on?

[Linn1]

it's on the 36th Chamber disc. As for the trailers, the rarest one on there is actually the one for Invincible Fist. Just for fun, anyone now why?

[chen lung]

;)

[sevenhooks]

Yes, there have been 8GB worth of original trailers released so far.



Don't forget the trailers that HAVEN'T been released "officially".
Stuff like "Sword Stained With Royal Blood", which has been floating around for a few years now but for whatever reason never made it to the Celestial disc.

[oldeschool17]

Don't forget the trailers that HAVEN'T been released "officially".Stuff like "Sword Stained With Royal Blood", which has been floating around for a few years now but for whatever reason never made it to the Celestial disc.
Are you sure bout that one? I could have sworn I have that trailer on my copy of Sword Stained With Royal Blood... I believe i have the Deltamac copy if that makes any difference.

[sevenhooks]

Maybe it's on the Deltamac version, but it's definitely not on the ILV Celestial copy I have.

[oldeschool17]

Ill check my copy later on tonite to confirm

[master cheung]

I bought 36th chamber of shaolin and My Young Auntie, both were excellent. however, i am dissappointed that My Young Auntie did not have the original cantonese track, even though it is evident in the original trailer on the disc. Seven, I know you said these releases were on point, what do you think of this? Linn, any thoughts as to why they would leave it off even though 36th chamber has english, cantonese and mandarin?

[HAZ74]

How are the subs? Are they better than the celestial translations?

[sevenhooks]

I bought 36th chamber of shaolin and My Young Auntie, both were excellent. however, i am dissappointed that My Young Auntie did not have the original cantonese track, even though it is evident in the original trailer on the disc. Seven, I know you said these releases were on point, what do you think of this?

Personally, I'm fine with it.
My main concern is and always has been for the original english dubs.
And they stand to do good business as a result of including them.
I'm sure of that.

Also, I have to imagine that for future titles, DD will fix the chinese audio issue(s).
It's too bad thay didn't get it right for MYA, but they DO seem to honestly care about such details so I have good faith that they will in fact address it.

We shall see.

[kungfusamurai]

The only excuse I can think of for not having the Cantonese track was that it must have been damaged so badly that they didn't feel it was worth even touching up with recent voice dubbers. I noticed on Naval Commandos (I think that was the film) that the voices changed during one part of the film, from an older sounding dub to a more recent sounding audio, then switching back after a few minutes.

KFS

[bobo]

can you believe that up here in ontario canada these movies have been delayed to july/17. i was told that on tuesday when i went to purcase them at my regular outlet. so i immediately went home and ordered them off hkflix and had them delivered via fedex. ordered them tuesday morning and arrived to day at about 10:30 . all four of them---i,m very impressed. watched KING BOXER first--all i can say is magnificent picture and sound. although i,m a little surprised at the poor video quality of the english trailer as the redsun trailer looks better. but what the hell. anyway- LINN-a question-did you ever get that list of the rest of the IMAGE shaw tittles and which one would include the english dubs? just curious----thanks

[magicpoe]

If a better version exists of that trailer other than the one I have I'd love to include it. Otherwise I'll include the one I have.

I'm quite pleased to see the inclusion of the Shaolin Mantis trailer. I posted a link to the one on YouTube a couple weeks ago but to have it on an official release is excellent. Funny enough the dvd also has subtitles for this trailer as the burned in subs are a little hard to read and we can see a translation of the opening SHAW BROTHERS logo screen.

[morgoth]

If you are nto a fan of Lau's comedy, I can understand why you didn't like this. I thought this was one of Lau's very best comedies. One of the more fun kung fu films I have seen in a while.

[Graeme Noble]

This movie gets 5/5 for me. The final 30 minutes is pure Kung Fu gold, especially Lau's fight at the very end, brilliant!

I really enjoy the movie, it's strange yes, but I love it. Also Kara Hui puts in a great performance!

[Linn1]

Linn, any thoughts as to why they would leave it off even though 36th chamber has english, cantonese and mandarin?

is it was simply a screw up. A bad one though considering most of Lau Sifu's films are Cantonese.

The only excuse I can think of for not having the Cantonese track was that it must have been damaged so

That would make sense if it wasn't on the HK disc.

LINN-a question-did you ever get that list of the rest of the IMAGE shaw tittles and which one would include the english dubs? just curious----thanks

Even if I did, I don't trust them to be correct. I think they will include the original dub track since they went to the trouble of finding them. But if they don't match the length, I don't expect them to go to the trouble of fixing it. I've not worked for Image for a while now. I quit when it was clear they couldn't really do these films justice. I just got tired of trying to get them to understand VERY simple things.

[oldeschool17]

sevenhooks,
the deltamac release indeed includes the sword stained with royal blood trailer(the new one, not the original)
Also included on the disc(trailers) are:
-The Brave Archer 3
-Crippled Avengers
-Bat Without Wings
-Legendary Weapons of China

I find it odd that IVL didnt include it on their disc. Out of curiosity, what trailers are on the IVL disc?

[venom10463]

The deltamac and ivl version are the same... the only differences is the cover art.

[The Running Man]

These releases are not all that great.

They do not retranslate subtitles.

[oldeschool17]

Yes im quite aware of that, however, are you even following what me and sevenhooks are talking about?
The deltamac and ivl version are the same... the only differences is the cover art.

--------------------------
Sevenhooks: Don't forget the trailers that HAVEN'T been released "officially".Stuff like "Sword Stained With Royal Blood", which has been floating around for a few years now but for whatever reason never made it to the Celestial disc.
oldeschool17: Are you sure bout that one? I could have sworn I have that trailer on my copy of Sword Stained With Royal Blood... I believe i have the Deltamac copy if that makes any difference.

Sevenhooks"Maybe it's on the Deltamac version, but it's definitely not on the ILV Celestial copy I have.

oldeschoo17:sevenhooks, the deltamac release indeed includes the sword stained with royal blood trailer(the new one, not the original) Also included on the disc(trailers) are:
-The Brave Archer 3
-Crippled Avengers
-Bat Without Wings
-Legendary Weapons of China
I find it odd that IVL didnt include it on their disc. Out of curiosity, what trailers are on the IVL disc?

[venom10463]

Sorry about that... my miss understanding.
The trailers on the IVL SSWRB:
-The Brave Archer 3
-Crippled Avengers
-Bat Without Wings
-Legendary Weapons of China
No original trailer.

[oldeschool17]

no worries, sorry if i came off a lil rude. I think thats incredibly lazy of IVL to not include the trailer in their own release.

[venomchamber]

So what if the subtitles aren't retranslated, or if there is no Cantonese track!
They're in ENGLISH!
...with the classic '70s voices, not some anime redux!
I for one am grateful and quite pleased!

I can't believe this!
There's just no pleasing some people!
Now we finally have perfect ENGLISH DUBBED U.S. DVDs, with ORIGINAL TRAILERS no less, and you're still not satisfied!
If you need the Cantonese version, get the IVL or Deltamac!
Its been around for a couple years now!

I didn't know so many people on this board were fluent in Chinese, Mandarin or Cantonese.
If you know it so well, why do you need subtitles?
Be grateful for the Dragon Dynasty releases...God forbid they pull the plug on 'em!

But still, I'll bet you're all glad they removed Quentin Tarantino's face from the packaging! :rollin

Cheers!

[The Running Man]

oldeschool17,
Yes im quite aware of that, however, are you even following what me and sevenhooks are talking about?

I was replying to a specific comment on the thread. I forgot to quote it.

venomchamber,
They're in ENGLISH!
...with the classic '70s voices, not some anime redux!
I for one am grateful and quite pleased!

Good for you.

I can't believe this!
There's just no pleasing some people!
Now we finally have perfect ENGLISH DUBBED U.S. DVDs, with ORIGINAL TRAILERS no less, and you're still not satisfied!

Those English dubs are crap and I don't care for them.

I want to hear the movies in Chinese and read subtitles that are correct. Not whatever crap they slap on.

[The Running Man]

If you have the IVL disc, there is no reason to get the DD disc.

DD disc does not have the Cantonese track and both discs have the exact same subtitles.

[Mantis FIST]

Someone needs to think about putting together a comp DVD of all the Shaw trailers they can find (ala the "Fistful of Trailers" DVD full of spaghetti western previews).

I was going to do this. When I posted about it here only like 3 or 4 people showed interest. So I just never did it. I have a fair share and I know others probably have more so...

[bobo]

i don,t want to be rude but i believe the main reason for the dd releases was to get the original english dubbing. if you are not interested in them you could have just bought the other celestial versions a long time ago. you know we english dub fans want a little satisfaction as well.

[sevenhooks]

Just to clarify, I was referring to the ORIGINAL trailer for SSWRB, NOT the new, Celestial trailer.
I don't even consider those "trailers".
That said, I was also referring to a possible comp of "original" trailers.
I doubt you'd get much interest in a comp full of new trailers.

[sevenhooks]

These releases are not all that great.

They do not retranslate subtitles.


Sheeeeeet. They're the best releases yet.
Keep em coming!

[sevenhooks]

If you have the IVL disc, there is no reason to get the DD disc.




Unless, like many folks, you want the original english dub.

[The Running Man]

i don,t want to be rude but i believe the main reason for the dd releases was to get the original english dubbing.

You really need to get out of the bubble you are in and understand that these discs were not created just to for the sole purpose of putting the English dubs of these films.

[The Running Man]

And unlike those folks, there are more folks who aren't so easily impressed and complacent.

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Am I gonna have to sit between you two?! :lol

[sevenhooks]

And unlike those folks, there are more folks who are anal beyond all reason

[killer meteor]

I agree with Running Man. Dubs are good for a giggle or nostalgia but there's no excuse for not including the original language in mono. Otherwise, I may as well not bother buying them

[inchilottaP]

Five seconds of surfing this board should make it pretty obvious that this forum is pretty dub oriented so posting against them is all but trolling.

Alot of people here myself included have been drooling over dubbed Shaw releases since the first celestial announcement and people are going to be happy for them even if you didn't get your cantonese track.

If you want to complain about it, that's what ADG is for since that's about 75% of the content there. :b



Besides the fact that TWC haters are just lying in wait for these releases itching to find something wrong with them and overjoyed when they do find something like MYA.

Really sad if these releases would have all been perfect they would have started pulling stuff out of their ass like "OMG they tried to make Gordon Liu look like a white person on the dvd cover" or some other straw grasping pathetic nonsense.

[The Running Man]

Five seconds of surfing this board should make it pretty obvious that this forum is pretty dub oriented so posting against them is all but trolling.

Absolutely not.

It is not called "Shaw Brother English dubs". If it were called that, then you'd be right.

This board is simply called "Shaw Brothers". Since it is, I have all the right to complain about the shoddy subtitles in these releases, which btw, is not even excusive to these titles. It goes for ALL of Dragon Dynasty's releases.

[The Running Man]

sevenhooks,
Why act like you are 5?

No really, not being a jerk here. Seriously.

What you are inviting would potentially lead to a waste of time going back and forth so why even start it?

[Senor Quack]

Well I think there's a happy medium to be had here. I personally prefer the original language, so the fact that the subtitles haven't been re-translated is a bummer, as for 36th Chamber, an original English dub alone isn't enough to make me double dip. Not whining here (as I'm perfectly happy with my IVL version) as it's great they've done a proper transfer and added the original English dub, but I don't think it's asking too much on the fan's part to wish they had gone in and cleaned up the subs a little bit. I mean, the subs are perfectly acceptable on IVL's 36th Chamber, but if they don't clean up the subs for say, Five Deadly Venoms, I for one will be seriously annoyed (although that original English dub will be too cool for me to pass up). They just can't leave "snake dude" in the translation :eek !

[Markgway]

I guess it's down to whether you prefer original language or English dub... can we agree on that? ;)

[killer meteor]

The worst moment I've encounter in Celestial subs was on the Siren DVD of Trail Of The Broken Blade where SPOILER

a dying Wang Yu tells his beloved to "go eat something"

If stuff like that ends up on these DVDs, I shudder...


Five seconds of surfing this board should make it pretty obvious that this forum is pretty dub oriented so posting against them is all but trolling.

That's just stupid. I for one am very happy to see the dubs present but I'm annoyed that the subtitles and original Chinese language issues are being disregarded. TBH, if they keep doing this, I might as well stick with a fan-boot and save my cash...

[Markgway]

Five seconds of surfing this board should make it pretty obvious that this forum is pretty dub oriented so posting against them is all but trolling.

Bigotted rubbish.

and people are going to be happy for them even if you didn't get your cantonese track.

Yeah, @#%$ the purists!! :rolleyes

If you want to complain about it, that's what ADG is for since that's about 75% of the content there.

I'm sorry did someone put you in charge while I was away? There's nothing wrong with the ADVDG and I see no reason to sneer at that forum.

Besides the fact that TWC haters are just lying in wait for these releases itching to find something wrong with them and overjoyed when they do find something like MYA.

Hardly... I wanted to get a Cantonese Mono version of My Young Auntie and now I can't. Not that you give a @#%$ about anyone else as long as you get your quota of "but stills".

[sevenhooks]

sevenhooks,
Why act like you are 5?

No really, not being a jerk here. Seriously.

What you are inviting would potentially lead to a waste of time going back and forth so why even start it?


Then don't take it so seriously.
I'm not.

Look. If you're offended by my remarks, let me be the first to apologise.

But what "started", or should I say prompted my missive, was this little ditty here...


And unlike those folks, there are more folks who aren't so easily impressed and complacent.


Seriously, I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but why do you feel the need to stoop to such a level of condescension and self righteousness?


Bottom line. I like the dubs.

You don't.

Fine.

There's no reason to sh#t on those of us who do simply because you didn't get what you wanted on these releases.

It's funny. For the past few years, those of us who have been hoping and praying for the dubs on disc have been constantly put upon, ridiculed, been referred to as "illiterate", etc. ... and essentially have been made to think that the Celestial (excuse me, ILV) releases were quote "not for us" anyway.

Now that there are finally releases in the US that HAVE the dubs, can we finally get a little peace and satisfaction??

Of course not!!

[Robert Ian Teller]

What's up with all these dub heads feeling all entitled and shite. That's lame.

I want the dubs (and original languages as well) to. But I'm not gonna be mother****in lame about it.

[Mantis FIST]

That said, I was also referring to a possible comp of "original" trailers.
I doubt you'd get much interest in a comp full of new trailers.


WORD! I was also talking about original trailers. I agree who cares about those celestial ones.

[raider yang]

Oh hell yeah! Count me in for a comp of OG trailers.

[inchilottaP]

Hardly... I wanted to get a Cantonese Mono version of My Young Auntie and now I can't. Not that you give a @#%$ about anyone else as long as you get your quota of "but stills".

[Shaw Dubber] Right! [/Shaw Dubber] :lol

This thread is already reminding me of ADG with it's rampant over-quoting and over-hostility about something were all here to just enjoy and discuss, movies.Like I said, 75%, not damning the whole board.





It's your choice.Watch a film voiced in English by people that are not the actors or watch a film voiced in Cantonese/Mandarin by people that are not the actor's voices either.

DD did not give you the latter option on MYA and that's unfortunate.Please forgive some people for still being happy to get it with the former and praising the release because of that.


But Still

[raider yang]

These releases are not all that great.

I sleep next to my DD releases every night and cook them breakfast in the morning.:smokin

TWC is my new best friend.

[sevenhooks]

Please forgive some people for still being happy

[kermit]

Seriously, I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but why do you feel the need to stoop to such a level of condescension and self righteousness?

that's RM's style

[bobo]

as this has now turned into english dub vs asian dub--here goes--i have nothing against the original asian language being included on any shaw release BUT STILL lets face it people the one and only reason dd is doing these movies is to INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL ENGLISH DUBBING. get over it. its what the majority of north american shaw fans want. the success or failure of these releases relies entirely on haveing the dub included. WITHOUT THE ORIGINAL ENGLISH DUB THESE MOVIES WILL FAIL TO SELL. just look at the non dubbed image shaws-most of them are still sitting on the shelves . its my opinion these shaw releases will be a huge success and hopefully a few other companies will jump on the band wagon. love the dubs or hate them--they are the difference between success and failure. you know dds bottom line is to make money-with the dubs they will make money-without the dubs they won,t. with over 200 dubbed shaws being held by celestial theres a lot of money to be made.

[venomchamber]

The inclusion of original trailers over the remastered home video releases where applicable was an excellent touch of nostalgia!
I also found it odd that the 5 Fingers Of Death trailer was in such poor condition when it is one of the most commonly found martial-arts movie trailers out there!
I wonder if Warner Bros. could/would have supplied a trailer, if asked?

The interviews were tops and a refreshing look at the Shaw stars today, rather than recycled from documentaries found on the IVLs.

The dubbing were all the original tracks dating from their theatrical releases back in the heyday, not slapped on.
These are American releases provided by The Wienstein Company (formerly Miramax) for the American mainstream market. Most American fans don't speak Chinese, and older films like these are still looked down upon by today's casual viewer in favor of films like House Of Flying Daggers, Hero and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
Why are some people complaining about original languages anyway? Just pick up the IVL and./or Deltamac or even the Thai releases that have been available for years!
Better still, since Chinese is your preferred language of choice,
I'm sure the folks over at Image would welcome your business since they seem to have dropped the idea of English tracks for their releases.

Question: Why would anyone want multiple copies of the same exact film found on IVL, Deltamac, King, Image, Siren, Red Sun, and that Thai company- I forget its name, and DD all to be in Cantonese? I for one am glad they chose English tracks as I think there are enough Chinese versions out there!

I hope the next releases in November are as good! Hopefully they trailers are exactly that...previews of what's yet to come, and not just an extra "grindhouse tribute" supplied by Quentin.

Plus those enclosed $3 coupons will come in handy!
Cheers!

[bobo]

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[sevenhooks]

The inclusion of original trailers over the remastered home video releases where applicable was an excellent touch of nostalgia!

Agreed.
The inclusion of the OG trailers alone make the releases "fantastic"!
:D

[morgoth]

English dub is a big bonus. i don't know if anyoene listed this, but here are the original trailers that are included on the My Young Auntie disc-

My Young Auntie
One-armed swordsman
36th Chamber
Blood Brothers
Buddha's palm
Mad Monkey Kung Fu
Heroes of the Est
Infernal Affairs 3

There are a few more trailers, but not originals.


Original trailers on 36th Chamber disc-

36th Chamber
My Young Auntie
One Armed Swordsman
Infernal Affairs 3
Shaolin Mantis (this is a must for any fu fan)
Return to 36th Chamber
Disiples of 36th Chamber

[The Running Man]

Seriously, I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but why do you feel the need to stoop to such a level of condescension and self righteousness?

Playing the part of the parrot is an attitude that leads nowhere man.


Bottom line. I like the dubs.

You don't.

Fine.

When did I ever say I don't? I like a well made dub. Many dubs I even prefer over the original language tracks.

It is true that that I don't like 99% of the dubs on Shaw Brother movies (My Young Auntie would be one of the very very few exceptions), but that has NOTHING to do with what I was writing about.

There's no reason to sh#t on those of us who do simply because you didn't get what you wanted on these releases.

Complaining about a release that has crappy subtitles and one disc that is missing it's original language track is not sh*tting on anyone who bought it. It's pointing out how the people who made it are screwing up.

It's funny. For the past few years, those of us who have been hoping and praying for the dubs on disc have been constantly put upon, ridiculed, been referred to as "illiterate", etc. ... and essentially have been made to think that the Celestial (excuse me, ILV) releases were quote "not for us" anyway.

This is the entire problem here.

I want you to go to my posts here and find where I am calling you or anyone else "illiterate" and where you will find on this thread anything about me being condescending to others.

You are doing this to me simply because you are being overly defensive and jumping the gun simply because I am not singing high praises for these discs. Whatever the reason you attack me without even taking into consideration if anything of what you are saying applies.

If you are happy that the English dubs are on there, then good for you. But that has nothing to do with the other side of the disc that is not well and because you are happy does not mean I or others should be held back from letting that be known to others that would be interested in knowing.

[The Running Man]

This isn't about English dubs VS Asian Dubs.

This is about two things:

My Young Auntie does not have it's original Cantonese mono track.

and

Dragon Dynasty uses crap subtitle translations for their releases.

That's it.

[morgoth]

So what DVDs should people get for the better translations?

[sevenhooks]

Playing the part of the parrot is an attitude that leads nowhere man.



There's no parroting going on here sir.
I asked you a direct and pointed question and have yet to receive an answer.
Perhaps if I didn't phrase the question in a manner similar to yours, I wouldn't get such a cop out?


When did I ever say I don't((like the dubs))? I like a well made dub. Many dubs I even prefer over the original language tracks.



When did you say you didn't like the dubs?
Oh, I don't know where I got that silly ass notion from.
Perhaps it was this...?

Those English dubs are crap and I don't care for them.



That WAS you, was it not?


It is true that that I don't like 99% of the dubs on Shaw Brother movies

Alright then.

I like the dubs.

You don't.

(or at least 99% of the SHAW dubs - which was what I was referring to anyway).

We're in agreement then?

No?


but that has NOTHING to do with what I was writing about.




Which was what?
Complaining about the lack of a Canto track and proper subs?
Fine.
I sympathize.
I honestly do.
But I'm also still MORE than satisfied with the product myself.
Can I enjoy it without being talked down to?


Complaining about a release that has crappy subtitles and one disc that is missing it's original language track is not sh*tting on anyone who bought it.


Again, I refer back to the self righteous and condescending tone you took here:

there are more folks who aren't so easily impressed and complacent.

I don't appreciate the fact that simply because I personally don't have any issue with the release, I am now referred to as "complacent" and "easily satisfied"; as if being happy with the disc is a bad thing.
GTFOOHWTB.



This is the entire problem here.

I want you to go to my posts here and find where I am calling you or anyone else "illiterate" and where you will find on this thread anything about me being condescending to others.


First of all, I never ONCE accused YOU of calling me "illiterate" (unlike my friend Mark for example, who just directly and falsely accused me of calling the ILV discs "faulty" becuase they lacked dubs!).
Nice try though.
As I very clearly wrote, the name calling and attacks were simply part and parcel of voicing any sort of praise for the Shaw dubs.
And yes, you certainly were condescending.


You are doing this to me simply because you are being overly defensive and jumping the gun simply because I am not singing high praises for these discs.
Whatever the reason you attack me without even taking into consideration if anything of what you are saying applies.

If you are happy that the English dubs are on there, then good for you. But that has nothing to do with the other side of the disc that is not well and because you are happy does not mean I or others should be held back from letting that be known to others that would be interested in knowing.



You're KIDDING me, right?

My friend, I could give a sh#t WHAT you think about these discs.

I mean really.

If you don't like them, FINE!
Complain all you want.

Seriously, I'm right there with you and I DO hope that DD gets it right next time with regards to the languages.

But can you PLEASE just let ME and others enjoy them without basically calling us SHEEP in no uncertain terms???!

[kungfusamurai]

So what DVDs should people get for the better translations?

People should learn cantonese and mandarin and not worry about the subtitles!! :)

KFS

[morgoth]

I have had to retranslate and squint to understand subtitles all my life. It is not a big deal for me whatsoever.

If Running Man knows of releases that have better translations, then he should speak up. Or else quit bashing Dragon Dynasty. Or maybe start your own forum called- "what could have been".

[Markgway]

DD did not give you the latter option on MYA and that's unfortunate.Please forgive some people for still being happy to get it with the former and praising the release because of that.

I'm not saying dub fans shouldn't be happy... just that they should understand that sub fans have been let down AGAIN when it would have been so easy to please both. Why would I want TWC to fail with films I love? The attitude on the surface from some dub fans (NOT SEVENHOOKS!!! :p ) seems to be "well, we've got what we want now so who gives a @#%$ about original language? These are for us Americans. Clear off and buy IVLs".

[oldeschool17]

Jesus, the internet.

[The Running Man]

Perhaps if I didn't phrase the question in a manner similar to yours, I wouldn't get such a cop out?

Correction, if you didn't phrase the question in a manner similar to mine your question would have been taking more seriously rather than be seen as just part of another attack.

When did you say you didn't like the dubs?
Oh, I don't know where I got that silly ass notion from.
Perhaps it was this...?

When I wrote this:

Those English dubs are crap and I don't care for them.

I was referring to only, and only, the English dubs of Shaw Brother films...which yes are crap.

When I wrote this:

When did I ever say I don't? I like a well made dub. Many dubs I even prefer over the original language tracks.

I was clearly talking about dubs in general. The part where I wrote that I like "a well made dub" should have made it obvious I was talking about it in general.

Follow?

Which was what?
Complaining about the lack of a Canto track and proper subs?
Fine.
I sympathize.
I honestly do.
But I'm also still MORE than satisfied with the product myself.
Can I enjoy it without being talked down to?

Me talking down to you??

Ahem...you have been stalking me on two other threads because I am complaining about the errors on these releases. I not once called you out or started to insult any of the members here when I did so. The threads have only lead here once you started to take offense that I am not happy about the releases as you are.

I don't understand why I have to be jumped on a thread for pointing out valid flaws in the releases. Since you don't care about what I am complaining about, why care at all about it other than to just argue?

I don't appreciate the fact that simply because I personally don't have any issue with the release, I am now referred to as "complacent" and "easily satisfied"; as if being happy with the disc is a bad thing.

Take into consideration you have been on me for a total of three topics on this even though I never provoked you. Also, put it into context on how people are saying left and right, "These releases are all about the dubs" "If you don't want it, buy the r3 releases" "Who cares if they didn't put on good subs" etc... basically saying that what I and others are complaining about is unimportant.

So don't try to justify yourself with this rubbish. Stalking someone about this for three threads isn't gonna get you flowers and cupcakes in return.

First of all, I never ONCE accused YOU of calling me "illiterate" (unlike my friend Mark for example, who just directly and falsely accused me of calling the ILV discs "faulty" becuase they lacked dubs!).
Nice try though.

Nice try what?

The hell are you talking about??

And the reason I wrote that I never accused you of calling you anything is because you wrote it in your reply to me. If you are crying over being called that and other things obviously you are grouping me with people who have and I have nothing to do with what. And I wrote that to make it clear.

You're KIDDING me, right?

My friend, I could give a sh#t WHAT you think about these discs.

I mean really.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??

You have been on my ass for a total of THREE threads on this. UNPROVOKED I might add.

Here is my first reply here in this thread:

If you have the IVL disc, there is no reason to get the DD disc.

DD disc does not have the Cantonese track and both discs have the exact same subtitles.

The first reply to follow is yours:

Unless, like many folks, you want the original english dub.

Thread two. I write:

These releases are not all that great.

They do not retranslate subtitles.

You reply later with:

Sheeeeeet. They're the best releases yet.
Keep em coming!

I put the same comment in another thread and you immediately reply again with,

You're right. They're just as bad as the Celestial releases. :rolleyes

Sorry, but logic points that you do give quite a damn about what I think. Enough that you are on me for it for three threads and still arguing with me about it.

In the end though, it won't stop me from doing what I feel I must do for the benefit of those who do care about such things. If you feel you want to keep going back and forth, understand you are just asking for it.

[peringaten]

Holy bejeebus!

I think my mind's melting.

[kungfusamurai]

Grrrrr!!! Me want to SMASH thread!!!

:)

KFS

[Mantis FIST]

IT was great to see the master killer 3 trailer, among others.

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Been a while since Ive seen you bumping around the forum Mantis. Good to see ya back, how ya been?

[morgoth]

That Shaolin Mantis trailer was worth the price of the DVD for me. 8 Diagram Pole Fighter is pretty cool and in really good condition.

[Linn1]

and I agree with G, the saving grace of the extras (besides the great trailers) is The RZA. He has a pretty firm grasp of the film and the background of much of what's talked about. It's a shame that his partner on the commentary track can answer nearly none of his questions.

[morgoth]

RZA's like- "there's Lau's brother"
Andy Klein- "where?"

RZA- "there's the mad monkey"
Andy Klein- "where?"




The guy needs to be fired.

[kungfusamurai]

I probably missed it - what is Andy Klein's credentials? Is he just the Weinsteins' answer to Ric Meyers? If he doesn't know any of the actors in the films, then why is he doing commentary? At least let RZA do it by himself, if he knows what he's talkin about.

KFS

[oldeschool17]

i asked bey logan to do everything in his power to fire andy klein. needless to say, he hasnt replied back to me yet:rollin

[HAZ74]

I'm not a fan of dubs, but, if I were, I'd be all over these DD releases. In fact, how can people not get excited for these DVD's no matter what production issues they've got? We're finally seeing region 1 DVD's of Shaw bros films. I got all the celestial releases, so I don't feel a sense of urgency to buy the DD releases (also DD has some problems with distro in canada. Many stores aren't carrying their stuff), but I'll be all over the next wave.

[gfanikf]

Thanks for you kind comments Linn. Actually if anyone is interested Andy Klein actually responded on my blog in the comment sections of the reviews. No joke.

[killer meteor]

In fact, how can people not get excited for these DVD's no matter what production issues they've got?

Well, if they were pan'scan video masters with poor sound I wouldn't be very excited!

[kungfusamurai]

Thanks for you kind comments Linn. Actually if anyone is interested Andy Klein actually responded on my blog in the comment sections of the reviews. No joke.

Okay, so I guess that proves Andy Klein isn't just an alias for Ric Meyers. :)

So, I guess these audio commentaries are one-take deals? No going back and punching-in corrections or erasing unflattering moments?

KFS

[vengeanceofhumanlanterns]

Anyone else thinks SEVENHOOKS* sucks?

Uh, could be.

Mowin 'em down again 7 hugh?

Only kiddin with ya bro. :b

[bobo]

hi--thought i,d put in my 2 cents worth. these dd releases are the first time a north american company has bothered to do a good job on kungfu movies. i for one am totally satisfied and feel i got exactly what i was promised. hats off to dragondynasty for finally doing something right for the fans. i hope they keep up the good work (unlike IMAGE).

[chen lung]

We'll all be starting on you next:lol !

[The Running Man]

If Running Man knows of releases that have better translations, then he should speak up. Or else quit bashing Dragon Dynasty.

That comment makes no sense.

[killer meteor]

Don't try and be clever, Morgoth, it's not getting us anywhere.

If we didn't criticise flaws, we wouldn't be getting an uncut Fist Of Legend this year - at least, I hope we are!

[bobo]

what can i say---i love the english dubs. my only worry is if celestial will ever release the other 200 or so lost dubs they have.

[m burlock]

If they're releasing them in groups of 4 that is. Also, when are the next 4 being released? Thank-you.

[m burlock]

So DD is releasing 4 more SB titles this Nov.? Which ones? On what specific day in Nov. are they being released?

[chen lung]

what can i say---i love the english dubs. my only worry is if celestial will ever release the other 200 or so lost dubs they have
They don't have all the English dubs, and there's bound to be more than that.

[bobo]

the next four are due in NOV. --as for the tittles --only the shadow knows (or LINN).

[Steve Barr]

It was interesting, but I was kind of disappointed with the translation, esp. (paraphrasing):

"This was my third film"

and

"This was the first kung fu film to win an award"

[morgoth]

Running Man, my point is that yu need to calm down. But, you decided to quote me. So what versions of these movies do you recommend over Dragon Dynasty? And what part of that question don't you understand? It's pretty simple.

And do I have to wait another 3 days for you to quote me?

[The Running Man]

I quoted you morgoth because there was a comment after you and I wanted to make it clear that I was replying to you and to a specific comment.

As far as calming down, I don't know what I need to calm myself about. I am just mentioning there are flaws in these releases.

The only ones that should consider calming down are those that are easily getting offending that not everyone is singing praises at these discs as if we should be punished for bringing these flaws to light.

Consider, I never called these discs "horrible" "wrost ever" or anything like that. I am just pointing out things that are wrong with them for the benifit of those that care. If you don't care, then don't comment cause obviously it wasn't directed at you.

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Back on subject......that classic trailer for Shaolin Mantis has to be the greatest trailer of all time!!! That wasnt even a trailer, it was a freaking presentation!



People, please dont feed the animals! ;)

[The Running Man]

They don't have all the English dubs, and there's bound to be more than that.

I don't believe Ceslital have any, do they?

Aren't these dubs being sourced from elsewhere?

[killer meteor]

Celestial have some for sure. But they are rather inconsistent - eg. no English dub for the Australian DVD of Spiritual Boxer but one for the UK TV broadcast

[raider yang]

Back on subject......that classic trailer for Shaolin Mantis has to be the greatest trailer of all time!!! That wasnt even a trailer, it was a freaking presentation!


Yeah G it's unlike any trailer I've seen before and I'm wondering how the heck DD managed to get a hold of it.

[m burlock]

bobo,

Thanks! Is the exact date for the next 4 DD SB's coming in Nov. known? Or is the month all that is known at this point?


P.S.
If you don't mind me asking, where in Ontario do you live? I live in Ottawa and didn't have to resort to the net in order to get any of the SB's films in my DVD collection.

[Elvis Mantis]

Is there a list of the 50 Shaw Brothers titles that Dragon Dynasty will be releasing?

[magicpoe]

The covers are slightly different, notice the lettering at the top of the case:

Amazon
www.amazon.com/My-Young-A...801&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/My-Young-Auntie-Liu-Chia-Liang/dp/B000MM0LEQ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0704651-5184024?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1182907801&sr=8-1)

Wal-Mart
www.walmart.com/catalog/p...id=5706558 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5706558)

I purchased mine through Amazon but saw them at WalMart this afternoon.

[fusheng007]

Celestial owns all the 35mm prints for films and trailers in their vault. DD paid extra to have them included. The wait was worth it for the original trailers alone.

[Tosh]

:eek Now I see what all the fuss was about on that Shaolin Mantis trailer, f'n too sweet for words!

[JustinB123]

I would really like to see Dragon Dynasty put out a DVD containing all of the Shaw Bros. trailers they have access to - maybe as a bonus disc with one of their upcoming releases.

[venomchamber]

The Japanese version of SHAOLIN MANTIS from KING RECORDS had that trailer as well. In fact, many of the Japanese releases featured the original trailers as well as interviews not found on the IVLs.

It would seem IVL isn't too fond of Bonus Features as they have come down quite a bit from their original releases.

Atleast now we have DRAGON DYNASTY to look forward to!
Hopefully, they'll add more to future releases as time goes on.

These initial 4 releases are much the best and I have found myself rewatching 'em already!

Can't wait till the next batch in November!
I can only assume that they will be chosen from among the trailers found here.

[Mantis FIST]

It would be sweat if they put the trailer for Men from the Monastery on one of the next releases! The film is CLASSIC!

[shukocarl]

I've asked this before...can anyone tell me if the discs are acually R1 or R0. Sometimes US discs state R1 on the packaging and then turn out to be R0 (which I'd prefer!):D

[magicpoe]

They are Region 1.

[killer meteor]

The Australian company Roadshow will be releasing several Dragon Dynasty titles at the end of August. My Young Auntie is among them. It's a stretch, but if we all contact DD and put pressure on them to put the Cantonese track on the Aussie DVD, the message might just get through

[magicpoe]

It will be two volumes instead of one dual layer DVD.

Volume 1 is completed and volume 2 is ready for authoring tonight.

[raider yang]

It will be two volumes instead of one dual layer DVD.


Sweet! Can't wait to check it out.

[Mantis FIST]

Good stuff magic! Yeah the Shaolin Mantis trailer was really cool! It was sweet seeing pops do the mantis style!

[Mantis FIST]

Anyone wonder why they didnt put the original Legendary Weapons of Kung Fu trailer on the discs. It was on the IVL release.

[kow pad moo]

Gotta love Dragon Dynasty's creative citation of one of the original American movie reviews from 1973 for their recent release of "King Boxer."

Hovering above Lo Lieh's head in the cover art is an eye-catching " 'Spectacular.' - New York Times," which suggests critical acclaim for the film from the publication in question. Unsurprisingly, though, it seems that wasn't quite the case -- while the word "spectacular" does indeed appear in the original 3/22/73 Times review, there are a lotta other words before and after it that fall into the category of "critical" rather than "acclaim."

In the line selectively cited by Dragon Dynasty, writer Roger Greenspun admits, "It is bloody and rather flashily spectacular -- normally pitting one good guy against 20 bad guys, all armed to the teeth with knives, and with predictably happy results." In the very next sentence, though, Greenspun totally dismisses the film and remarks, "I don't know much about karate, but I know what I don't like. And the karate in 'Five Fingers of Death,' for all its slow-motion high leaps, its grunts, its whooshing fists, has the look of the bottom of the barrel."

I kinda like the "whooshing fists" bit -- it would have made an even greater cover blurb in my mind. If Dragon Dynasty could get the rights to release "Deadly China Doll" with the upcoming "Hapkido," maybe they can plaster another classic old Times review on the DVD cover for that one -- "Angela Mao, the Billie Jean King of kung-fu films...in another Wimbledon of mayhem."

Those were the days, huh...

[kungfusamurai]

I'm finding the audio commentary rather disappointing. I wish someone like Bey Logan was there to point out the actors who most of us recognize from later roles, and actually say their names. Now, I don't mind hearing the film critics perspective on how the film was received in the US and how it revolutionized the genre. That's fine. But I think ID'ing the actors in these films and talking about the impact they had on cinema is just as important, especially since many of them probably only made a little money off of their work, and don't making any extra money from these DVD releases. And if QT could not use the word 'Shitt' so often. LOL. Yeah, we get it, you're "cool" and "hip". :)

KFS

[kow pad moo]

Agreed, though the commentary was a lot better than I'd expected, especially given Tarantino's presence. I'm still no fan, but I thought his enthusiastic fu contributions helped balance the more studied (read: academic) approaches of Chute and Mitchell.

To my mind, the ideal result would be an even balance of both play-by-play and color commentary, kinda like the announcers at a baseball game, with enough of each approach to both inform AND entertain. Given that these releases are designed for a broad audience, though, it's probably an unreasonable hope to provide a commentary that can successfully satisfy everyone, from novices to even the most knowledgable folks (like the ones here).

Gratuitous QT profanities aside, I thought the trio on "King Boxer" was sufficiently entertaining and informative to make the commentary track worth sitting through at least once. Hearing Tarantino and Mitchell discuss their own experiences of over-the-top responses to the movie from grindhouse audiences was pretty enlightening, and a great reminder of the more humble theatrical settings of these movies in the pre-home-entertainment days. Likewise, I gotta give credit to Chute and Mitchell for picking up on the "Shane" riffs in film.

Could it have been much better? Sure. But still ... compare the "King Boxer" commentary with the one on "My Young Auntie"; there, it's just Chute and Mitchell, and while they did have occasional moments of insight (like the genre-crossing aspects of the production and suchlike), the total lack of basic factual information to balance off the analysis made for some tough listening.

[kermit]

Has anyone read Mark Pollard's review of the DD disc?

He says that the dvd has the original canto.
Is he wrong?

[chen lung]

He says that the dvd has the original canto.
Is he wrong?
yes.

[Linn1]

it's for sure not Cantonese.

[gfanikf]

I'll have my review up later today, but yeah thats not Canto.

[oldeschool17]

somebody should notify mark of his error.

[gimpusmons]

Thanks for catching that guys. You can probably tell which tracks I actually paid attention to when watching the DD version.

I can't wait for a proper English dub release of MAD MONKEY KUNG FU! That track is priceless.

Mark Pollard

[skulldugrey]

can anybody post pics of the back covers for Dragon Dynastys releases of these two films. I have the IVL versions of each, but I haven't seen these in stores anywhere, and I'm curious as to how the artwork looks on the back covers. thanks!

[chen lung]

DVD Empire (http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.asp?userid=99365891097193&item_id=1327576&tab=5&back=1&anchor=1#topoftabs)

[the golden dragon]

I emailed Dragon Dynasty yesterday.

Celistial never answers any queries so I.

Sent a message requesting they pressure Celestial Pictures to release To Kill A Mastermind.

I told them this was the most sought after Shaw Brothers of all time and begged them to make an effort to aqiure it or to have it released . I said if you could purchase this film it would your biggest seller of all time. Did not hear back yet if at all.

Suggest you all also email them as maybe this could get the movie made a legend on this website released.

CONTACT INFO:

BEY@DRAGONDYNASTY.COM

You never know!

Gd

[magicpoe]

Email sent. I'd suggest keeping it short, I assume the guys busy. I also sent links to the clips out on YouTube.

[Markgway]

I can't see DD buying in anymore titles than they already have. Isn't there like 46 left to release? It'll take them years as is.

[raider yang]

will do.

[morgoth]

Email sent.

[tino]

email sent

[Ko Fei]

Does anyone know what SB titles DD plan on releasing besides the four amazing ones that just came out? I would like to know so I can hold off on the ones I buy from celestial because I would prefer to own the DD versions especially if they are all gonna be like the previous releases.

I know there is a SB title coming out in November on their website listed as "Quentin Tarantino presents The Shaw Brothers Collection" Does anyone know which titles will be included in this?

[bobo]

sure someone knows what those four tittles are -- their just not talking as yet. from what i understand there will be more dragondynasty and media blaster info after the shaw philly fest ---possibly next week.:hat

[Ko Fei]

Only time will tell then. Thanks!

[Ko Fei]

Any news on the upcoming titles yet?

[venomchamber]

I stumbled upon this in Wikipedia!

According to the official press release, the following titles are expected to appear under the Dragon Dynasty label:

Shaw Brothers Studio Titles

Come Drink With Me
The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter
Heroes Of The East
Martial-Arts Of Shaolin



Question is: will COME DRINK WITH ME have an English dub as well?
Several other '60s films did including ONE ARMED SWORDSMAN, TRAIL OF THE BROKEN BLADE, THE BELLS OF DEATH, and TWELVE GOLD MEDALLIONS, so it will be something to look forward to seeing in the future! ;)

[Ko Fei]

Intersting! I doubt CDWM will have an english dub as I don't beleive it even exists but who knows what DD have up there sleeves. Perhaps they will do their own dub which may not be as good as the classic but it would be interesting. Thanks !

[drunkenmantis13]

That's 4 great titles and i was totally expecting 8 Diagram for the November batch. I also suspected CDWM could be there.
While the other 2 are great, i'm very surprised there's no Venoms titles yet. LKL titles were already represented twice in the first batch so i was pretty confident at least one if not all 3 of these would be in the next batch: 5 Venoms, Crippled Avengers, Avenging Eagle.
No Venoms yet, same for Sun Chung. It would have been perfect timing to have these at the end of the year. Hope the 4 titles listed isn't the definitive list for November...even though i'll still buy all 4.

[oldeschool17]

i wouldnt necessarily gauge that as what the secretive november batch will be, considering wikipedia info can be entered and changed by anybody. Not to say those wont be released, just id rather here an official statement from dragon dynasty not some speculation off of wikipedia or internet forums.

[morgoth]

I got this message from Bey Logan today-

"What is it with this film? Everyone is asking me about it this week! I'll see what I can dig up. Thanks for the info! - Bey"

[magicpoe]

I received a similar message from him this afternoon stating that he had been hearing alot about this film and he would check into it.

[tino]

I recieved an email from him too. He said he has gotten a dozen emails about TKAM and that he will see what he can dig up.

[the golden dragon]

I did not think this would amount to anything.

But yiou never know.

What if he talks Celestial into releasing To Kill A Mastermind.

There is always hope.

GD


:eek

[oldeschool17]

its the waiting game now. Who knows, your efforts may have paid off. I dont think ive ever seen this much effort and dedication to get a movie released. Good job fellas

[stormybman]

F#$*! Tarantino.

"Whenever you're ready, I'll take on any Japanese here."

[VonHumboldtFleischer]

Selective quotation is an old trick. I seem to remember reading about some movie - I think one of those pompous quasi-Biblical Victor Mature-type stinkburgers - which had been unfavourably reviewed by someone who had said "destroying the negative of this film would be a boon to mankind". Needless to say, the quotation on the poster simply read "A BOON TO MANKIND".

I hated the commentary. It seemed disorganised, unimaginative, and uninformed. I didn't mind the swearing so much, but how many times did they do that thing where they try to sound "black"? It was embarrassing, every ten minutes Tarantino or one of those indistinguishable dorks going "dayummm". And the endless comparisons to inevitably American movies, to inevitably American studios and stars.

I'd rather listen to ninety minutes of Bey Logan flossing his teeth than listen to that again.

[killer meteor]

One of my fave examples was when Total Film, a UK film mag, gave a mediocre review for Rasor Blade Smile and yet a couple of pages later was the poster for the film, sporting a complimentary blurb from Total Film that had been taken from a preview report

One of the New York Times reviewers once said that Bruce Lee looked like "Alain Delon after a lot of bee stings"

[Shaolin Patriot]

Does anyone have a clue as to what DD will be featuring for their November Tarantino Presents SB collection? I'm hoping that at least one title will be Venoms.
In terms of Venoms titles, which would you like to see in order? Presuming they have the rights to these, I would like to see (as a top 5):
- Five Venoms
- Crippled Avengers
- Kid with the Golden Arm
- Invincible Shaolin
- Chinatown Kid

[morgoth]

You really want to know don't you:lol

[oldeschool17]

p081.ezboard.com/fkungfuf...5412.topic (http://p081.ezboard.com/fkungfufandomfrm24.showMessage?topicID=5412.topic)
in other words. nobody knows

[drunkenmantis13]

I think the 4 titles did come up at some point, no?
I was also expecting 2 of them to be Venoms titles but if i remember none of the 4 actually is a V flick...

[bobo]

yes--i,ve been trying to find out the tittles as well. theres nothing on dragondynasty site or amazon either. perhaps linn knows and would share that info. i,m sure somebody knows.

[Chinatown Kid]

I sure hope one of the titles they release is the international version of Chinatown Kid, the wimpy alternate version Celestial/IVL released just doesn't cut it. Give us the violent, hard ass version we all know and love in remastered glory! 8)

[stormybman]

Are they going to release the titles Celestial left off their list?
I'm looking for The Killer.

[killer meteor]

Given the grindhouse roots, it'd make sense for a US distributor to go for titles like The Killer. Did Celestial remaster The Champion?

[Chinatown Kid]

As for one Celestial hasn't released yet, I would like to see DD put out Deadly Angels as well, one of the first kung fu girls with guns flicks, with the incredibly hot Evelyne Kraft and Da Na! Tony Liu busts out some decent fighting in this too....

[gfanikf]

http://hkfilmnews.blogspot.com/2007/11/hkcfn-exclusive-new-dragon-dynasty.html

I rock don't I :)

[Markgway]

001 Come drink with me
002 Shaolin temple.
010 The eight diagram pole fighter. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
015 Flying guillotine 2. Directors, Cheng Kang & Hua Shan.
029 Blood Brothers. Director, Chang Cheh.
031 The five venoms. Director, Chang Cheh.
036 Heroes of the East. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
039 Boxer rebellion. Director, Chang Cheh.

Cool!! :cool:

[gfanikf]

001 Come drink with me
002 Shaolin temple.
010 The eight diagram pole fighter. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
015 Flying guillotine 2. Directors, Cheng Kang & Hua Shan.
029 Blood Brothers. Director, Chang Cheh.
031 The five venoms. Director, Chang Cheh.
036 Heroes of the East. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
039 Boxer rebellion. Director, Chang Cheh.

Cool!! :cool:

Some of the titles they picked were odd, Boxer Rebellion and Seven Man Army. I love both of those flicks though so I'm happy!

[TheManInWhite]

Outside of 5 Venoms and Crippled Avengers, the absence of Venom films from this list is pretty alarming.

[gfanikf]

Outside of 5 Venoms and Crippled Avengers, the absence of Venom films from this list is pretty alarming.

Well remember the titles Media Blasters got, IIRC they have some decent Venoms flicks.

[remo]

Nice work -- though it obviously doesn't mean that all will be necessarily be released.

[The Running Man]

Interesting to see they also have Painted Faces.

[gfanikf]

Interesting to see they also have Painted Faces.

How about the Ann Hui films, I'm surprised to see them there. Interesting Kid with the Golden Arms is not on the list.

[Morgoth]

Oh man this is sweet. I really hope they release Avenging Eagle, Shaolin Mantis, Flying Guillotine 1 and 2... I can't name all the titles I want to see them release. Now the question is, when are these coming out?

[raider yang]

Wow yeah there's a # of titles that are questionable (i.e dramas) as to why those but I'm excited to see Shaolin Mantis and Shaolin Avengers on that list.

Thanks for the hookup gfanikf!

[gfanikf]

Wow yeah there's a # of titles that are questionable (i.e dramas) as to why those but I'm excited to see Shaolin Mantis and Shaolin Avengers on that list.

Thanks for the hookup gfanikf!


Sure thing. I'm happy this is of use to a lot of people. I was a bit surprised when I found it myself :)

[Daigoro]

Excuse me, im kind of new to dragon dynasty. i have a couple questions. insofar have dragon
dynasty been releasing shaws with english dub along with original cantonese or mandarin?
What about commentary is bey logan doing all the commmetary on those discs or is there
someone else doing it. Actors etc? I havent been collecting them. Luckily they are releasing
them here in the states so at least it's easy to go and pick one up.

Also i saw ''Victim'' on the Dragon Dynasty list. Just below Skinny tiger fatty dragon (just above
the shaw titles) On that list are they reffering to the classic by Sammo hung ''The Victim'' with
Leung Kar Yan & Chang Yi? Yahoo! Yes! If that's true i will be so glad.

[bobo]

well ---congrats--- i found this list months ago at the LOC--though i only revealed a few TITLES here and there. my concern is what about movies like DELIGHTFUL FOREST--DUEL OF THE IRON FIST and KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS to name a few. i would have skipped some of those dramas and taken these classics instead(oh yeah-LIFE COMBAT as well).

[gfanikf]

well ---congrats--- i found this list months ago at the LOC--though i only revealed a few TITLES here and there. my concern is what about movies like DELIGHTFUL FOREST--DUEL OF THE IRON FIST and KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS to name a few. i would have skipped some of those dramas and taken these classics instead(oh yeah-LIFE COMBAT as well).

I guess Dragon Dynasty doesn't have them simple as that. In theory that means others could license it.

[Morgoth]

I just noticed Angry Guest on there. This is exciting!

[venom10463]

Excuse me, im kind of new to dragon dynasty. i have a couple questions. insofar have dragon
dynasty been releasing shaws with english dub along with original cantonese or mandarin?
What about commentary is bey logan doing all the commmetary on those discs or is there
someone else doing it. Actors etc? I havent been collecting them. Luckily they are releasing
them here in the states so at least it's easy to go and pick one up.

Also i saw ''Victim'' on the Dragon Dynasty list. Just below Skinny tiger fatty dragon (just above
the shaw titles) On that list are they reffering to the classic by Sammo hung ''The Victim'' with
Leung Kar Yan & Chang Yi? Yahoo! Yes! If that's true i will be so glad.

So far Dragon Dyansty have included all three language track if available. They didn't include the Cantonose audio on My Young Auntie, which was a real shame. But I got over it real fast for the English dub and I have the IVL.
Bey Logan didn't do audio commentary on the 4 shaw releases and I doubt he even will. If i recall correctly on kff, someone stated that Bey stoped doing the commentaries on Celestial's dvds because his history isn't too good on Shaw Bros.


I hope Dragon Dynasty have the English dubs for these titles:
001 Come drink with me (not remake) Director, Hu King-Chuan.
004 Killer clans. Director, Chu Yuan.
005 Disciples of the 36th chamber. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
015 Flying guillotine 2. Directors, Cheng Kang & Hua Shan.
016 Golden swallow. Director, Chang Cheh.
018 Crazy Shaolin disciples. Director, Yau Ka-hung.
019 Return of the one-armed swordsman. Director, Chang Cheh.

[daisho2004]

I grew up watching SB with English Dub so I would prefer to watch them that way now as well.

[Morgoth]

I grew up watching SB with English Dub so I would prefer to watch them that way now as well.

It is nice to have a choice. Thank God for Dragon Dynasty.

[bobo]

i,m not 100% sure but i believe they have the english dubs to at least all the kungfu movies--- which means we get a chance to see some rare titles (INVINCIBLE FIST-GOLDEN SWALLOW etc). now all we need are some release dates. this is why i,m not to worried about the PM release of KILLER CLANS as most of the UK shaws are on DD list.

[Linn1]

i,m not 100% sure but i believe they have the english dubs to at least all the kungfu movies---

Some, not all.

[gfanikf]

Some, not all.

Plus I wonder if Boxer Rebellion EVER got a full dub because of the political issues surrounding it. Heck, a full Mandarin version didn't come out till 2005!

[will91XingYu]

I'd love to see Disciples of 36th Chamber, i lent it to my friend and he left our kung fu school so i never got it back along with Flag of iron! Hopefully dragon dynasty will get an interview with my boy Hsiao Ho!

[Markgway]

So far Dragon Dyansty have included all three language track if available. They didn't include the Cantonose audio on My Young Auntie, which was a real shame.

A major disappointment for me. As that's the one of the initial batch I wanted most!!

Mandarin tracks seem to be no problem, so it's really the Cantonese films that provide the potential worry.

005 Disciples of the 36th chamber. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
009 Mad monkey kung fu. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
010 The eight diagram pole fighter. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
013 My young auntie. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
017 Return to the 36th chamber. Director, Liu Chia-ling.
018 Crazy Shaolin disciples. Director, Yau Ka-hung.
026 Clan of the white lotus. Director, Lo Lieh.
030 Behind the yellow line. Director, Taylor Wong.
032 Painted faces. Director, Alex Law.
033 Love in a fallen city. Director, Ann Hui.
035 Buddha's palm. Director, Taylor Wong.
038 Monkey kung fu. Director, John Lo Mar.
040 Dirty Ho. Director, Liu Chia-liang.
041 Look out, officer! Director, Liu Shih-yu.
042 The mad monk. Director, Johnnie To.
047 Justice, my foot. Director, Johnnie To.
048 Hero. Director, Corey Yuen.
049 Out of the dark. Director, Jeff Lau.
050 Starry is the night. Director, Ann Hui.

[Stuntman Jules]

Plus I wonder if Boxer Rebellion EVER got a full dub because of the political issues surrounding it. Heck, a full Mandarin version didn't come out till 2005!
So I'm not the only one who thinks that Boxer Rebellion is hilariously politically incorrect and historically inaccurate, eh?

[Markgway]

Remind me what was un-PC/inaccurate about Boxer Rebellion.

I've forgotten... all I remember is that I really liked it as a film.

Who's the frosty faced lady in your avatar?