$15 reward if anyone can help me get my movies back

[Frank Lakatos]

If you can contact get back rare three rare Casanova Wong movies sent to Matt "Sun Wu" Redman glaucon52@yahoo.com, I will send you $15.00. He ran away from a trade February 06 and he hasn't responded to my emails yet. Some people have seen him in Falkor's site, and some other rare kung fu sites.

Since I don't have a DVD burner, the deal was I send the movies, he copies them and sends them back with the copies of movies from his list. I made a very bad decision to trust him, and I deserved to pay the price, but I still want my movies back. There is no reason why I shouldn't get them back.

These are the movies I want back.

1) South Shaolin vs North Shaolin Korean language version
Casanova Wong DVD-r
2) Ninja Holocaust Korean language version DVD-r
3) Cold Blooded Man Korean language Casanova Wong DVD-r

I am very angry at this man. I saved up for many months of work just to get these rares and I planned to share them. I love these movies, I'm not rich, so it's a big deal to me. It's an old issue so, I get them back that would be great. If not, I'll never get them back.

As for Edwin Ranero Saint360 saint360@optonline.net, that's an extra $15.00 if anyone can contact him and get me the movies he owes me. He hasn't replied to my emails since last year:

Deadly Chase For Justice
Drunken Arts and Crippled Fists
Man on the Brink
Cops and Robbers
Blow Up
Blue Butterfly The Amazon
Death Cage
The Shaolin Incredible Ten
Shaolin Fists of Fury
Street Fighter’s Last Revenge
Gambling for Head

Frank

lakatosfrank@yahoo.com

[whitelotus]

@#%$ frank that sucks, ... go through my list posted here...If I have some, let me know, I'll send them for you no charge, 1 trader to another..

WL

[Frank Lakatos]

I thank you for your compassion, Whitelotus. I appreciate your offer very much, but I owe you as I had promised to trade with you a while ago, so we'll make it a trade as soon as I have time. White Lotus, you have respect for people, and that's all we need to keep things fair and square around here.

Frank

[silver hermit]

that matt redman sent me blank disks and when i asked him for proper burned disks he flipped out and dropped some F-bombs that showed me his character.
i seen his myspace page and there was a few threats being made to him. it made me laugh and i thought if he deals with people like this in real life then he will get what he deserves one day so i forgot about the the stuff he owes me its just some 30 cent dvd rs no big deal. but the fact he took your stuff and didn't return it is a more serious breach of trust.

[whitelotus]

Thanks for the kind words, its funny how we watch movies with themes about honor and respect, but not many follow that code anymore, it’s sad.

When your ready to start trading again let me know.

[venom10463]

Thats messed up Frank, I can't believe Mantis Fist actually did something like that. He could have atleast have the decency to send u back the tapes if he couldn't copy them. I can't stand people who takes advantage of other people's trust.... that @#%$ just pisses me off!! Don't worry Frank, Matt is gonna get his! @#%$ @#%$ sucking bastard!!!!

[Frank Lakatos]

Silver, send me his My Space web address. I'm going to get this over with simply and quickly, since it's a senseless issue that should have bee resolved months and minutes ago. Venom, you hit it right on the nail. If he didn't want to trade, all he had to do was just tell me and send back the movies. No problem, end of issue. But, certain people are so stupid and boneheaded sometimes. They make problems for themselves for no reason. In the era of DVD burners, email, and 3 day mail, there should be no reason for this ignorence. Type a few words out of decency, and the email is sent. There is time for that always. If they can't keep promises, don't make them. I don't know how simple and clear I could describe this. respect has to be taught, as these people don't and don't want to understand the meaning of this word. People like this aren't people. They are still children; their minds are like 11 year olds, grow up. There is no point in wasting time with fu(ked up fools like that.

Saint360 and Matt Sun Wu Redman not only robbed me of the discs, but they robbed the people of this forum as well, because I cannot share these discs with the rest of you. When one person gets hurt, we all get hurt.

I hope that the administrators of this forum can design a stricter format for trading, 3 strikes and your banned from trading on this forum type law, as through integrity, the people of this forum would ignore these thieves inside and outside of the forums, these thieves would be driven out, and less theft would happen.

It is my fault for trusting Matt and Edwin. regardless where this goes, if they sadly and sadly refuse to respect my request of simply returning my property, I must face the facts and accept the loss of my movies.

Frank

[WHITETIGERNY]

Wow.

Mantis was always correct with me.

Sorry about all your troubles.

[Chinatown Kid]

Another thing that upsets me is when you do a trade and send your movies and the other guy doesn't send his for a month or longer after he has already recieved yours. They also ingnore your pms and you can't find out what the hell is taking so long! >:

[Chen Zhen]

guys ease up.

Matt/Mantis FIST is my boy, i for one know that he wouldnt just rob u of whats urs, believe me. from what i understand, hes had a lot on his plate these days, give the guy a break. i also know that his internet access is extremely limited (as he told me a while back), so he may not have even read his email in a while.

so lets not assassinate his character just yet.

[silver hermit]

if you make a mistake correct it. show me someone that says they have never made a mistake trading i'll show you a liar. i have made mistakes but i correct them as soon as posible the one mistake i can't forgive myself for is trusting the wrong trader(s)
to tell the truth we can't assassinate his character it they who assassinate their own character.
i'm sure everyone makes mistakes trading. disagrements happen, missunderstandings happen its how you deal with them the show your character.
chen zhen i remember not to long ago me you and mantis used to chat 3way on msn alot talking about production and we all learned alot from each other and i concidered mantis a friend but something happened and he flipped maybe he was moody or PMSing whatever. but how he handled himself made me laugh quite honestly. this was just before he took off with franks stuff. i feel what happened to frank partly my fault because i didn't say anything about his behavior and another trader felt the affects of his mindstate whatever it was. when your bad trade has a birthday then oh hells yeah frank can say what he wants.
the community of traders have a responsibility to each other because its the bad elements taking advantage of others.

1 mistake doesn't make someone a bad trader but if you say F-U then thats malice behavior.

for example trader A rips off trader B then moves on to traders C,D,E,F then can't handle the trades and screws everyone by accident or purpose whatever.

another example trader A uses trusted traders names to build a rep then sets up 10 trades with 10 people and takes off. changes his name uses a buddys address and repeats the process.

no matter what someone says to you even if it pisses you off you must complete your end of a deal or your in the wrong. sometimes people take an harsh tone to try and hurry another trader it might be in bad taste but reality is he is asking for what he is owed. it should be enough motovation to finish it and be rid of said person.

i don't think that mods will do anything about these guys its a shame as it takes away from the reputation of the site itself. they will only distance themselves from this behavior but i hope they prove me wrong.

if you trade with a bad trader you are part of the problem period. the funniest thing i have seen recently is two guys arguing about a trade yet they both owe me movies still :rollin :rollin :rollin

[Chinatown Kid]

Well if a person takes too long to send their DVDs after they already have mine I will know better in the future and will choose not to trade with them again because I think it's irresponsible. I don't have any ill will and am not attacking anyone, just wanted to give my opinion as it's just smart business. ;)

[FarEastPirate]

That son of a bitch edwin in NJ stole 860 dollars from me.

last i heard his Baby Mamma threw him out of the house becuase he is a deadbeat, with no Job

[VonHumboldtFleischer]

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[Frank Lakatos]

Thanks to everyone's hearts, stories, and righteousness, Mantis Fist matt Redman emailed today and he will return my movies to me. Matt showed me that he has integrity and he is a Man. I forgive Matt and this situation is over. I also apologize to Matt for the anger and insulting words that I have used towards him. I have no animosity towards him. I hope that we could give Matt a chance to redeem himself one day. He is a brother human being like all of us, and he deserves another chance out of forgiveness and love. I cannot ask for more. I have my movies back. I love them and I paid alot of money for them.

Silver Hermit made beautiful points that nailed this topic on the head. If you make a mistake, that's ok, but don't keep on making the same mistake constantly. It's irresponsible, childish, and senseless.

I must make an important point in order to get the message across on this forum and to the entire world: Respect. We have a brain, human intelligence, love, two arms and legs, the same DNA, blood, and design in us. We are all one family of human beings. We are all equal brothers and sisters, with the same foundations, same goals, same love, and same design. we must respect each other equally.

Of course, nothing is clean cut perfect and exactly the same, but those are small details. Our ancestors migrated to more suitable lands, and we all had to adapt to different environments in order to survive, but it does not change who and what we are. People can't be correct and on their game everytime. Nobody is perfect. We make mistakes. In the last few centuries, our ancestors traveled to newer lands and areas, or stayed in the same place as times changed, and this modern life, we have to adapt to all types of lifestyles, business, construction, and ect, and sometimes it interferes with our trades, but, who and we are does not change. Clean cut perfection in humanity isn't reality, and unfortunately, ignorent people are put in high places by evil people in high places, who exploit and glorify ignorence for profit and control, and then society gets the wrong message and they get confused in what is right and wrong, and what is even human. But, NEVER FORGET, we are all equal brother and sister human beings with the same foundations, same goals, same love, and same design. We SHOULD NOT have it us to hurt our own flesh and blood. We have NO RIGHT to be higher or lower than each other. We should have RESPECT and LOVE for each other. We are one family. That's it.

There is NO REASON IN THE WORLD why we should treat each other differently or hurt each other.

It takes little effort to organize oneself. If you can't keep your word, if the trade is too much for you, or if you are too busy, don't notify the reciever midway through the trade. Tell the trader you cannot do the trade BEFORE the items are sent, and senseless problems, anger, wasted time, and disappointment will be avoided. There's no need to make problems for onself, to make a complicated mess out of nothing. The only person responsible for their problems is the person himself. Nobody forced anybody to trade.

It's simple. Respect for one another. We are all brothers and sisters, we are from the same family. Would we cheat and hurt our own family? No. That isn't what a human being was designed to do. We were given a great big heart/love, a higher intelligence, and hands with the purpose of improving, protecting, preserving, and maintaining humanity and life, not destroying it.

I hope that we can understand each other better instead of closing our hearts to each other, and dragging each other to a lower level of living life when we have the ability avoid and overcome ignorence.

Frank

[silver hermit]

von i didn't mean you(i can name names if you want) i talked to you 2 days ago. there is like 5 people that owe me movies to tell the truth and many of the bad trades have had birthdays or are getting close to it. i can wait a month no problem. bad trades with a birthday is a no no ...most def
i sent ozzie a pm yesterday on your behalf because i respect you both and i thought it was a shame after reading your thread and i hope you 2 will work that out but it sounds positive. you guys should start fresh and put it behind you. you'll both feel better about it.
if you want the lone wolf series i'll send it to you on hanak's behalf.
just so we are clear

frank i'm glad matt has come out of the wood work i'm sure chen zhen let him know whats up. respect to chen for doing that.

like i said its on all of us to handle it like men

[Frank Lakatos]

like i said its on all of us to handle it like men

Exactly. There's no reason why we shouldn't. Real men, real people, stick to their word, respect others and life, admit fault, and have the heart and guts to stand up and be righteous. Honesty and integrity. These words shouldn't be feared. Standing for the meaning of these words, and using these meanings in your foundation of life makes you fair and righteous, and that's something more than any amount of money and power.

Think before you do something. You have a heart. Understand it and use it. You have love in your heart. Feel it, use it, and forgive. If people cannot understand these elements of a human being, then the sloppy trades and theft will continue.

Frank

[VonHumboldtFleischer]

Silver Hermit, I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions about your post and was so snippy about it. I think I'm still a little tired and thin-skinned after recent events. I apologise. I'm deleting the above post just as soon as I'm done here.

I appreciate your offer for the LWAC series, but I don't think you should have to take the responsibility for another trader's failure to fulfil his side of the bargain.

[silver hermit]

its cool. i understand where your coming from and its not a big deal for me to do it. i know hanak has his hands full with a newborn and work on top of that. plus i just got my desktop back with a new 250 gig drive and i'm looking for an excuse to test out the beast