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mark187
01-11-2008, 10:09 AM
what are some other good classic Chinese boxing oriented films out there, besides stuff like The Chinese Boxer, Fist of Fury, King Boxer, and The Boxer From Shantung?

Morgoth Bauglir
01-11-2008, 10:13 AM
My personal favorite is One Armed Boxer.

Kung Fu Massacre (Charles Heung) and Brave Girl Boxer in Shanghai (Doris Lung) are also good.

The Dragon
01-11-2008, 10:33 AM
I've always had an appreciation for the "Boxing Films". They usually dealt with racism, and oppression, with the Japanese usually as the villians.
Shaws had a few I really like for different reasons, some popular, some not so...

The Thunderbolt Fist
The Master Of Kung Fu
The Boxer From Shangtung
Chang Cheh's Shaolin Trilogy

Some of the non- Shaws...

Two Graves of Kung Fu: with Lau Kar Yung
The King Boxer
The Prodigal Boxer: both with Meng Fei

Chinese Iron Man
Shaolin Kung Fu
Furious Slaughter
Ma Su Chen
The Bloody Fists
The Bloody Fight
Blood On The Sun

Golden Harvest...
Lady Whirlwind
Hapkido
The One-Armed Boxer
and... Queen Boxer and Chinese Hercules

Yes, those are some of my old school Chinese Boxing Film favs.

The Dragon
08-08-2008, 03:44 AM
Oh, and...

The Riksha Man

Stormy Sun

King Boxer (Meng Fei)

Fists Of Vengeance

Fists of The Double K

Stranger From Canton

Kung Fu The Invisible Fist

Little Superman

The Chinese Godfather

Dragons Never Die

Thunderkick

The Screaming Tiger

SamuraiDana
08-10-2008, 01:28 PM
Is "Chinese boxing" a different genre from kung fu?
I don't get the distinction or why that term is being used in this thread to describe films I've always known as "kung fu."
Can someone explain? Thanks.

The Dragon
08-10-2008, 02:17 PM
The difference is these films have not so much "stylized" action, mainly "swingy-armed", action basic brawling with not much co-ordination. Lee's films moved these films forward toward more realistic action... when a guy punched or kicked- there was now more authenticity, and the audienced could feel the action being more realistic. This continued more when MA like Wong Cheng Li and John Liu among others, arrived on the scene.

HAZ
08-10-2008, 03:03 PM
So, would a boxing film be the same as a "basher"? For a sec, I thought it was refering to the boxer rebellion.

Endsang
08-10-2008, 03:06 PM
I wasn't too fond of these kind of films before, but I had a change of heart after I saw Boxer from Shantung for the first time remastered. Time to revisit King Boxer again!

The Dragon
08-11-2008, 04:45 AM
So, would a boxing film be the same as a "basher"? For a sec, I thought it was refering to the boxer rebellion.

Yes, exactly. I learned the term "Basher" after joining this forum. :o

The Dragon
10-05-2008, 04:49 AM
I wasn't too fond of these kind of films before, but I had a change of heart after I saw Boxer from Shantung for the first time remastered. Time to revisit King Boxer again!

So Endsang, did you revisit King Boxer? (One of my personal favorites.)

TheManInWhite
10-05-2008, 12:42 PM
"I wasn't too fond of these kind of films before, but I had a change of heart after I saw Boxer from Shantung for the first time remastered."

I just saw that version last night on TV, and it looked amazing! :D

The Dragon
10-05-2008, 01:04 PM
I just saw that version last night on TV, and it looked amazing!

Yeah. That's one of the best remastered Shaws around.






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Endsang
10-05-2008, 02:22 PM
So Endsang, did you revisit King Boxer? (One of my personal favorites.)

I did, and I liked it a lot better, as expected. This was probably the first basher movie I ever saw after watching a lot of Golden Harvest shapes action, and I wasn't into it at all. After working my way through Wang Yu movies and and a lot of other early shaw bashers, it is much easier to appreciate this gem. Also, what a great opportunity to see Lo Lieh as a good guy. :D

The Dragon
10-16-2008, 01:33 AM
:D I'll second that!

Mark Pollard
07-09-2009, 11:28 AM
I'm compiling a list of basher/boxer kung fu flicks. Here is what I have so far. Feel free to offer corrections or suggestions for additional titles. I'm trying to keep shapes, Bruceploitation and epic historical action/war films out. Also, I have looked at films ranging from 1970 through 1977 although I consider the basher era to largely be contained within 1970-75. Action directors were transitioning to shapes/forms kung fu by 1976, not long after Chang Cheh and Lau Kar-leung's Shaolin films became popular.

A GIRL CALLED TIGRESS (1973)
A MAN CALLED TIGER (1973)
ACTION TAE KWON DO (1972)
BACK ALLEY PRINCESS (1973)
BLACK BELT KARATE (1977)
BLACK LIST (1972)
BLACK PANTHER (1973)
BLIND BOXER (1972)
BLOODY RING (1974)
BOXER IN SHANGHAI (1972)
CALL ME DRAGON (1974)
CHASE STEP BY STEP (1974)
CHINATOWN CAPERS (1974)
CHINESE IRON MAN (1973)
DEADLY KNIVES (1972)
DRAGON FIST (1972)
DUEL OF FISTS (1971)
FINGERS THAT KILL (1972)
FIST OF FURY (1972)
FIST OF UNICORN (1973)
FIST TO FIST (1973)
FISTS OF VENGEANCE (1973)
FOUR REAL FRIENDS (1974)
FOUR RIDERS (1972)
FURIOUS SLAUGHTER (1972)
GOLD SNATCHERS (1973)
HAPKIDO (1972)
INFERNAL STREET (1973)
INVINCIBLE BOXER (1973)
IRON OX, THE TIGER'S KILLER (1974)
KING BOXER (1972)
KING OF BOXERS (1973)
KNIGHT ERRANT (1973)
KUNG FU'S HERO (1973)
LADY WHIRLWIND (1972)
LAND OF THE BRAVE (1973)
LITTLE GODFATHER FROM HONG KONG (1974)
MA SU CHEN (1972)
NONE BUT THE BRAVE (1973)
ONE BY ONE (1973)
ONLY THE BRAVE STANDS (1973)
POLICE FORCE (1973)
RAGE OF THE WIND (1973)
RIVALS OF KUNG FU (1974)
RIVER OF FURY (1973)
SEAMAN NO. 7 (1973)
SEVEN TO ONE (1973)
SHAOLIN BOXERS (1974)
SHAOLIN KUNG FU (1974)
SHOW DOWN (1972)
STONER (1974)
STRANGER FROM CANTON (1973)
THE ANGRY DRAGON (1974)
THE ANGRY GUEST (1972)
THE ANONYMOUS HEROES (1971)
THE ASSOCIATION (1975)
THE AWAKEN PUNCH (1973)
THE BASTARD (1973)
THE BIG BOSS (1971)
THE BIG FIGHT (1972)
THE BIG SHOWDOWN (1974)
THE BLACK BELT (1973)
THE BLACK DRAGON'S REVENGE (1975)
THE BLOODY ESCAPE (1975)
THE BLOODY FIGHT (1972)
THE BLOODY FISTS (1972)
THE BODYGUARD (1974)
THE BRAVE AND THE EVIL (1971)
THE BROTHERS (1973)
THE BRUTAL BOXER (1972)
THE CHAMPION OF THE BOXER (1972)
THE CHINESE BOXER (1970)
THE CHINESE TIGER (1974)
THE CONDEMNED (1976)
THE DELINQUENT (1973)
THE DEVIL'S TREASURE (1973)
THE DRAGON TAMERS (1975)
THE DUEL (1971)
THE FAST FISTS (1972)
THE FISTS OF VENGEANCE (1972)
THE FURIOUS MONK FROM SHAOLIN (1974)
THE GOOD AND THE BAD (1972)
THE GREAT BOXER (1972)
THE HERO (1971)
THE IMPOSTER (1975)
THE KILLER (1972)
THE KUNG FU KID (1977)
THE LIZARD (1972)
THE MAN FROM HONG KONG (1975)
THE MANCHU BOXER (1974)
THE MASTER OF KUNG FU (1973)
THE NOTORIOUS ONES (1972)
THE ONE-ARMED BOXER (1971)
THE OPIUM TRAIL (1973)
THE POWER OF BOXING (1972)
THE PRODIGAL BOXER (1972)
THE RAGE OF WIND (1973)
THE RENDEZVOUS OF WARRIORS (1973)
THE SAVAGE FIVE (1974)
THE SHADOW BOXER (1974)
THE SKYHAWK (1974)
THE STORMY SUN (1973)
THE TATTOOED DRAGON (1973)
THE THUNDER KICK (1973)
THE THUNDERBOLT FIST (1972)
THE TOURNAMENT (1974)
THE WAY OF THE DRAGON (1972)
THE YOUNG DRAGONS (1975)
THE YOUNG TIGER (1973)
TO KILL A JAGUAR (1977)
TORNADO OF CHU CHIANG (1974)
TOUGH GUY (1972)
TRIANGULAR DUEL (1972)
VENGEANCE! (1970)
WARRIOR OF STEEL (1972)
WHEN TAEKWONDO STRIKES (1973)
WITS TO WITS (1974)
YELLOW-FACED TIGER (1974)

Fightingfist
07-09-2009, 11:31 AM
Wow thanks for the list will check em out.

Knockabout
07-09-2009, 01:49 PM
I too wasn't much into bashers early on either, however, after watching Bloody Fists followed by King Boxer (5 Fingers of Death) shortly thereafter, i saw the light so to say.

Another good basher would be Four Real Friends (Dragon Squad), with Chen Sing, Chang Yi, Jimmy Wang Yu and Kam Kong in the lead roles and Philip Ko Fei, Shan Mao and Lung Fei playing the antagonists. Interesting story, great cast (all of them are icons for the basher era) and good fights.

shukocarl
07-09-2009, 04:22 PM
You forgot some of these:
Big Boss Part II
Infernal Street
Village on Fire
Wits to Wits
Fists of the Double K
The Killer (1971)
Master of Kung fu
Black Belt Karate
The Bruce Li films
Return of the Assassin
Invincible Iron Fist
Iron Ox the Tiger's Killer
Larry Lee's (Li Chin Kun) early films
etc etc...
Long live the BASHERS!!

Mark Pollard
07-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Thanks shukocarl. I added the following.

BLACK BELT KARATE
BLOODY RING
INFERNAL STREET
IRON OX, THE TIGER'S KILLER
THE AWAKEN PUNCH (aka VILLAGE ON FIRE)
THE KILLER
THE BODYGUARD (aka RETURN OF THE ASSASSIN)
THE CHINESE TIGER
THE THUNDER KICK
WITS TO WITS (1974)

I already have the following listed.

INVINCIBLE IRON FIST (as THE GOOD AND THE BAD)
FISTS OF THE DOUBLE K (as FIST TO FIST)
MASTER OF KUNG FU (as THE MASTER OF KUNG FU)

I also changed Joseph Kuo's IRON MAN to CHINESE IRON MAN.

For now I'm leaving out Ho Chung-tao's "Bruce Li" films because most of them fall under Bruceploitation. I'll have to take another look at some of his later ones like THE CHINESE STUNTMAN.

Kwok Choi
07-09-2009, 07:14 PM
Hi Mark here are some bashers that just randomly came to mind.They are all roughly from 1970-76. Being part of running cinemas for quite a while enabled me to recall some of these movies based on the area I found myself in when they were released and also the names of the cinemas that exhibited them.As a result I can't specifically list the films by year but as you are doing research you'll eventually get more details.There is quite a lot more.These titles mentioned are almost all independents.We'll do Shaw bashers later.
Oh most of these titles should have aka's so enter KFC members Bruce Long,Tantao3 son of Tantao2,Falkor,Flashlegsrare etc

Life And Death
Chivalry Knights
The Two Cavaliers
The Good And The Bad
Superior Youngster
Dragon Tiger And The Phoenix
Righteous Fist
Dragon And Tiger Join Hands
Furious Dragon
Ferocious To Ferocious
Kung Fu King
Chinese Headache For Judoka
Chinese
The Avengers
The Escape
The Escapers
Kung Fu Girl
The Rangers
Rotary Kicks
Son Of The Yellow Dragon
Duel In The Woods
Gallant
7 Indignant
One By One
Brothers Two
The Dumb Ox
Number X
The Man Beyond The Horizon
Desperate Crisis
Fighting Is Living
The Insanity Being
Dog King Snake King
Inheritor Of Kung Fu
Snake Girl Drops In
Manda Vs Kungfu
Evidence
Bloody Ring
Roaring Fire
Brave Lion
Bloody Hero
Invincible Hero
Crush
Tough Guy
The Guy
Chao Chow Guy (check spelling)
Tiger Tiger Tiger
Duel Of The Dragon
Trail Of The Dragon
Fury In Storm
Dauntless Bumpkin
Dragon And Tiger
Iron Man
Land Of The Brave
A Tooth For A Tooth
Kung Fu's Hero
Dumb Boxer
Justice The Strongest
The Patriot
Martial Arts
Jumping Ash
Kung Fu Kid
Back Alley Princess
The Heroine
12 Bald Headed Beauties
5 Pretty Young Ladies
The Invasion
Kung Fu 10th Dan
The Tomentor
Golden Tiger
Boxer From Kwangtung
Death Blow
Tiger Jump
Conspiracy Of Thieves
Return Of The Valuables
The Best And The Worst
Hong Kong Connection
Amsterdam Connection
The Big Risk
Golden Triangle
Hong Kong Superman
The Imprudent Iron Phoenix
Queen Boxer
Fist of Shaolin - Pai Ying / Han Ying Chieh

Mark Pollard
07-09-2009, 07:36 PM
Thanks for the list Kwok Choi. I can see I already have some of these accounted for but a fair number are not. I may add alt titles as well to make it easier for everyone to identify films.

Kwok Choi
07-09-2009, 07:44 PM
Some more

End Of The Wicked Tigers
Gambling For Head
Duel Of Karate
The Silent Guest From Peking
The Fighting Dragon
Invisible Boxer
Flash Boxer

Kwok Choi
07-09-2009, 11:42 PM
................................and a few more
The Champion
Magnificent Boxer
Dare You Touch Me
Martial Hero Of The Southern Frontier
Iron Profligate
Excelsior
One-Armed Boxer
File Of Heroes
Broken Oath
Scorching Sun,Fierce Wind,Wild fire
Fierce Fist
Chinese Acupuncturist

The Dragon
07-10-2009, 01:54 AM
I appreciate the listings, however, you guys write on as if I never listed anything. Check the earlier portion of the thread.
:(

jrcma
07-10-2009, 02:16 AM
The difference is these films have not so much "stylized" action, mainly "swingy-armed", action basic brawling with not much co-ordination. Lee's films moved these films forward toward more realistic action... when a guy punched or kicked- there was now more authenticity, and the audienced could feel the action being more realistic. This continued more when MA like Wong Cheng Li and John Liu among others, arrived on the scene.

I thought that Chinese Boxing was the term of Gung Fu used by Westerners because when they went to China & saw a fighting style & the nearest thing they had was boxing also? i thought it was the same with Muay Thai?

paimeifist
07-10-2009, 02:22 AM
Even though very similar, I like King Boxer and Hammer of Gods, theyre probably my favorite basher movies...and of course the one-armed boxer films. I haven't seen many though, I admit Im much more into the more stylish stuff.

Also, those huge lists are greatly appreciated Im sure, but maybe recommend a top 3-10 for the guy.. Well I guess he can figure that out by seeing which movies are common in the lists... But I am interested in bashers a little more now, watched King Boxer again after seeing this thread.. So I will use these lists a little as well. thanks fellas.

Mark Pollard
07-10-2009, 02:41 AM
The list I'm compiling is for research purposes to support work I'm doing on the main site. It's not meant to overshadow your contribution to the discussion Dragon or to be a guide, per say, for people interested in basher films. I will probably end up moving my list over to the Reference forum when I'm done with it.

HyperDrive
07-10-2009, 04:50 AM
Mean Streets of Kung Fu (aka Invincible Hero)
Chinese Dragon (aka Chinese Mechanic)

Both 1973 Barry Chan bashers.

Kwok Choi
07-10-2009, 10:32 AM
The Dragon my man please don't be sad.We appreciate your contribution a lot and if you notice,Mark seems to be updating his original list as more titles are posted.I'm very glad that Mark has decided to compile a list of these classics as I do not know of any such thing in existence.These films have tremendous sentimental value to me because they refresh my memory of past events as one progresses through life.For example when 4 Real Friends was released,man! there was so much commotion - unimaginable - the first time four top superheroes starred as leading men and these guys had dedicated fans already who wanted thier star to outshine the others.Boy pandemonium!!!!.Tickets were gold dust.I can't describe the scenes at box offices.Not forgetting the intense rivalry of the fans of Wang Yu and Chen Sing (many screening of The Two Cavaliers were cancelled because of this and theatre owners had to appeal to the audience for calm.Eventually special security was deployed to seperate fans during screenings).These films also make me remember significant personal events that occured to me in that time frame so it is like a sort of virtual calendar.
Paimeifist there is nothing like top 3 bashers all the main leads at that time made superduper hits and the formular fight wise was very similar though mostly unpredictable - I mean most times you never know who will win till the very end if anyone (Bruce Lee changed this).Wang Yu alone can give top 3 bashers what about the rest?
One cannot chose between Tiger Jump,Tiger Tiger Tiger,Fist To Fist and Little Superman;its impossible.One thing to bear in mind about these films is that they had very good plots though not always well executed because of mediocre directing but I really prefered them to the " 20 years ago you killed my father and now you gonna die - must pay - want revenge etc etc " trend that almost killed kung fu films.
There are a lot more titles left but I try to list films I've seen in case someone needs reference.Even though its a long time ago there is always something lingering which gives clues to identifying these gems.
Once again The Dragon and everyone thanks for your contribution and keep posting.Mark well done.Appreciated.

wilma
07-10-2009, 11:37 AM
thanks

rdenn
07-10-2009, 11:40 AM
boxer in shanghai starring doris chen is a great basher loved every minute of it, although shapes are my priority i love a good basher for the sheer energy and hate .

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-10-2009, 12:09 PM
...wise words by Kwok Choi...

other rare ones:

The Daredevil, directed by Liang Shen, 1972
Acupuncture And Kung Fu
60 Minutes To Terror

The Dragon
07-10-2009, 09:21 PM
The list I'm compiling is for research purposes to support work I'm doing on the main site. It's not meant to overshadow your contribution to the discussion Dragon or to be a guide, per say, for people interested in basher films. I will probably end up moving my list over to the Reference forum when I'm done with it.

Oh.

Ok, Kwok Choi... I guess I didn't pay attention that those lists were being updated... Thanks for that also because there are titles I see now that I had not had the pleasure of viewing, and need to track down.

Thanks for making it clear. If I can find more I'll add them as well.

Kwok Choi
07-12-2009, 01:26 PM
Some Shaws:

5 Tough Guys
Taxi Driver
Bruce Lee and I
Champion Of Champions
The Casino
The Girly Bar
Chinese Boxer
Singing Killer
The Delinquent
Kiss Of Death
Big Bad Sis
Big Brother Chen
Payment In Blood
Friends
Brotherhood
Lady Exterminator
Chinatown Kid


Non Shaw:
Gathering Of Heroes
Big Boss Of Shanghai
Honeymoon Killer
Revenge Is Sweet (not Shaw's Sweet Is Revenge)

gravedigger666
07-12-2009, 01:50 PM
The Thunderbolt Fist

I need to pick this.Trailer looks sweet,reminds me somehow of Chinese Boxer.

The Dragon
07-12-2009, 02:31 PM
I need to pick this.Trailer looks sweet,reminds me somehow of Chinese Boxer.

It's not bad... I get the feeling, if they had used Lo Lieh, it would have come out a great deal better. He had far more appeal than the star of the film. It feels like a King Boxer knock off.

But I still enjoy it.

Kwok Choi
07-13-2009, 09:15 AM
Another Shaw

The Drug Addicts ( David Chiang's directing debut )

rdenn
07-13-2009, 05:37 PM
The mandarin is one heavy basher, the ending is very intense

Kwok Choi
07-14-2009, 10:20 AM
More Bashers:
Ghostly Face
Sleeping Dragon
13 Styles Strike
Gambling For Gold
A Debt Of Crime
Lantern Street
Smart Guys
The Association
The Hurricane
The Boxers
When Taekwondo Strikes
Black Belt
Two In Black Belt
The Black Dragon (Tony Ferrer not Ron Van Clief)
Bruka Queen Of Evil

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-14-2009, 12:15 PM
kwok choi, thanks for your great basher lists...please enlighten me...what are the following titles? do they have a.k.a.?
1.Smart Guys
2.Life And Death
3.Chivalry Knights
4.Chinese Headache For Judoka
5.Number X
6.Roaring Fire
7.Golden Tiger

Kwok Choi
07-14-2009, 10:18 PM
Hi Tantao

The Smart Guys is an action comedy directed by Yeung Kung and starred Cheung Liu who used to spot a trademark moustache in those days.This film was released towards the late 70s.The actors had a very peculiar way of delivering the Cantonese dialogue which was a bit odd for us at that time.The original poster is a hand drawn caricature of the main characters.

Life And Death is Bloody Duel/Bloody Fight

Chivalry Knights I saw in the early 70s.It is very bloody.This is the movie that has the infamous " deadly fingers in the gut " scene during the end fight which brought the demise of the main villain.The hero and main villain were once buddies who later became sworn enemies.The top part of the original poster has the hero in a jump kick pose which is duplicated a number of times and the bottom part has the main villain with his deadly fingers pose,also duplicated a couple of times.Falkor once posted the poster but I think under an alternative name which I can't remember.

Number X is a badass early 70s modern day basher starring Ching Chen/Ching Ching as one of the two main heroes.Can't remember much about the plot just the action which was wicked.

(sorry my browser keeps crashing thats why I'm posting in bits and in a hurry)

Chinese Headache For Judoka starred John Patton as the hero.It could be a co-production.I don't know it's actual release date but we got it in the early 70s.It was never re-released and I have never heard of it since.However click below to see some publicity.
http://www.nordicposters.com/cgi-bin/seek?seek=chinese+headache+for+judoka

Roaring Fire/Roaring Dragon/Roaring Lion is a Larry Lee film.It has another famous co star whose name has escaped me.This movie is a modern day film but Larry Lee most times prefers to wear white tradition Chinese clothing tailored like Bruce Lee's clothes in The Way Of The Dragon.This movie has the song " Fly Robin Fly " in one scene and good use was made
of that track Tarantino used in Kill Bill vol 1 in the animation flashback sequence when Lucy Liu's character had become 20 and was atop a sky scrapper with a Sniper rifle waiting for the next kill.

Golden Tiger is sometimes refered to as Tiger.Very good film.Excellent actually.This was once shown as a double bill with 4 Real Friends.It could have the same hero as the guy in Dare You Touch Me but I'm not too sure.The original poster has the hero in a scissors like jump kick kicking two Japanese guys with kitanas.Falkor also once posted some material on this film.By the way I think Falkor has a lot of publicity material on most of the bashers listed so far.

shapes
07-15-2009, 07:39 AM
Kwok sifu

Smart Guys is "Tough Kung Fu kid"

Chivalry Knights could be "Fingers that kill"

Chinese Headache For Judoka - think this is a Tony ferrer movie I am sure Shawman 7 has seen this in West indies.


Roaring Fire/Roaring Dragon/Roaring Lion- This sounds like "The Bodyguard"

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-15-2009, 09:10 AM
Kwok sifu
Shapes sifu

many thanks for your help!

seems Number X remains the "mystery" basher...

Kwok Choi
07-15-2009, 09:35 AM
Hi Shapes
Thanks for your input.I've seen " Fingers That Kill " and know it very well.It stars Lu Chun Ku billed as Tommy Loo Chun for this film.Fingers That Kill is the movie that was made a scapegoat for banning Chinese Films in Sierra Leone towards the end of 1973.Lu Chun Ku practices his technique fingering coconuts and coconut trees.
Chilvarly Knights is a lot more violent and bloody.One of the main characters is called " Chief Jien/Chief Chien " during the end fight the main villain five fingered an opponent's belly and his fingers got stuck in the guy's guts.The main hero then made a high leap and stamped on the stuck limb which got severed from the elbow.The shock of the dismembered arm killed the main villain but he made a speech of repentance before he died.Completely different movie from Fingers That Kill.

shapes
07-15-2009, 12:49 PM
Sounds wicked! is it a Taiwan film of HK?
Though it feels as if I have seen it, but something that grusome I 'm sure I'd remember right away.

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-15-2009, 05:42 PM
Number X=? Maybe Ferocious To Ferocious...

Kwok Choi
07-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Hi Tantao
I've seen both;Number X is a fully modern city film ;Ferocious To Ferocious is set in a small town but not quite a village.Yasuaki Kurata is in the latter but not in Number X.
Here again they are 2 different movies.

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-16-2009, 08:28 AM
Hi Kwok
I only remember seeing this Ching Chen in Ever Victorious Hall...

Kwok Choi
07-16-2009, 09:17 AM
Hi Tantao
Does " Ever Victorious Hall " have an alt title? The Ching Chen I'm referring to is the guy who has that very long pole shaking technique in " The Last Battle Of Yang Chao "

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-16-2009, 09:47 AM
hi kwok
it is the same guy from Last Battle Of Yang Chao...
i do not know any alt. tile, maybe Over Victorious Hall, there was also an alt. Brit title on old VHS of it, but i forgot...

shapes
07-16-2009, 11:08 AM
"King of Kung Fu"
but that film is not modern day, its a Republic period film

tantao3,son of tantao2
07-18-2009, 06:54 AM
hi kwok
Number X may be The Dangerous Guy, 1974, directed by Lin Pai (director of Duels With The Devils, starring Tan Tao Liang), a modern day basher...

Kwok Choi
07-18-2009, 05:53 PM
Hi Tantao
The Dangerous Guy seems to match the nature of Number X but it will be good to get some more info/photo/prints etc ditto Over Victorious Hall,to be 100% certain.
Here are 3 more titles that escaped me.
The Invincible Iron Palm (how could I have forgotten this?)
Chinese Kung Fu Against The Godfather
Fierce Among Strong

butcher wing
07-21-2009, 09:43 PM
Born to Defense Jet Li

Kwok Choi
07-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Two more
The Bravest One
From Bangkok With Orders To Kill

ben
07-28-2009, 04:41 AM
Great list here, I enjoy these types of films so alot of new discoveries here.

Morgoth Bauglir
07-28-2009, 08:34 AM
boxer in shanghai starring doris chen is a great basher loved every minute of it, although shapes are my priority i love a good basher for the sheer energy and hate .

Oh man I agree this one is very very good. Doris Lung and Man Kong Lung at their best. And I would say the hate in this movie is at least at a level 8.

ben
07-29-2009, 06:55 AM
I don't know if this is a reasonable suggestion to ask for, but can anybody give any recommendations on others actors who were known, or who did a large number of these kind of heavy basher/boxer types of films, along the likes of Wang Yu, Chen Sing, Chen Kuan Thai etc? Not necessarily period kung fu films, rather based on stories along the likes of "Big Boss", "Big Brother Cheng" etc?

Or is it likely easier to find particular films with this kind of theme rather than actors who were known for it, if that makes sense?

Thanks for any recommendations.

Manozen
07-29-2009, 05:18 PM
Hi,

can anybody give any recommendations on others actors who were known, or who did a large number of these kind of heavy basher/boxer types of films

Alex-Lung Ji Fei and Yukio Someno made some heavyweight Karate/Boxer styled films,
the following three titles are well worth checking out!

Thunder Fist
He Walks Like A Tiger
Kung Fu 10th Dan

cheers
Manozen

Jesse Smooth
07-29-2009, 05:48 PM
Roaring Fire/Roaring Dragon/Roaring Lion [/B] is a Larry Lee film.It has another famous co star whose name has escaped me.This movie is a modern day film but Larry Lee most times prefers to wear white tradition Chinese clothing tailored like Bruce Lee's clothes in The Way Of The Dragon.This movie has the song " Fly Robin Fly " in one scene and good use was made
of that track Tarantino used in Kill Bill vol 1 in the animation flashback sequence when Lucy Liu's character had become 20 and was atop a sky scrapper with a Sniper rifle waiting for the next kill.



Showdown at the Equator w/Nora Miao

Jesse Smooth
07-29-2009, 05:50 PM
Though it's considered Bruceploitation, Bruce Vs. Bill w/Huang Chien Lung and Bill Louie is solid. Modern day basher, but most people still wear Chinese clothes.

ben
07-29-2009, 10:39 PM
Hi,



Alex-Lung Ji Fei and Yukio Someno made some heavyweight Karate/Boxer styled films,
the following three titles are well worth checking out!

Thunder Fist
He Walks Like A Tiger
Kung Fu 10th Dan

cheers
Manozen

thanks for your advice, ill check them out sometime.

ben
07-29-2009, 10:41 PM
Though it's considered Bruceploitation, Bruce Vs. Bill w/Huang Chien Lung and Bill Louie is solid. Modern day basher, but most people still wear Chinese clothes.

thanks for the recommendation also. don't mind the clothing, but i like to find out about films from that classic era that aren't all wuxia/fantasy/Shaolin.. i guess you would call it 'modern day' action film

ben
07-30-2009, 12:02 AM
please give more actor recommendations if there are any.. thanks..

Jesse Smooth
07-30-2009, 03:18 AM
Recent ones I've watched:

Infernal Street ('73) Yu Tien Lung - I remember watching this on TV as a 5 year old at my grandmother's house. Not bad, but not a masterpiece.

Land of the Brave Cheung Li - Very intense.

More I'll look at later:

Brave Lion (Barry Chan)
Heroine in the Dust
Tiger (Kurata)
Gold Snatchers (Chen Sing/Kurata)
Dumb Ox/Kung fu Strongman (Kam Kong)
One by One (Kam Kong/Kurata)
Chinese Boxing
Legend of the Tiger (Lo Lieh)
Shaolin Vengeance (Chen Sing)
Kung Fu's Hero (Cheung Li)

kungfusamurai
08-02-2009, 02:49 AM
Unless I missed it, I didn't see John Woo's Young Dragons mentioned yet. Even though it was released in '75, it was filmed in 73 and definitely falls under the basher category from what I've seen of the trailer

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KFS

The Dragon
08-14-2009, 03:18 AM
Anyone for a Top Ten and why list for Bashers?

:nerd:

Jesse Smooth
08-14-2009, 03:57 AM
I looked at Tiger Jungle w/Wen Chiang Long this past weekend. Taiwan jungle tribe vs Japanese. Main baddie was Han Ying Chieh. The final fight slightly gives a nod to Big Boss.

Jesse Smooth
08-14-2009, 05:50 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot...I also saw The Awaken Punch aka Fury of the Black Belt w/Henry Yu Yung

The Dragon
08-14-2009, 10:30 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot...I also saw The Awaken Punch aka Fury of the Black Belt w/Henry Yu Yung

Is Fury of the Black Belt the one where Henry Yu Young is using bricks as a weapon, and clashes them together where they make some "steel" sound?
... or, am I thinking of Barry Chan in The Chinese Mechanic?

Jesse Smooth
08-15-2009, 01:04 AM
Is Fury of the Black Belt the one where Henry Yu Young is using bricks as a weapon, and clashes them together where they make some "steel" sound?
... or, am I thinking of Barry Chan in The Chinese Mechanic?

I don't think he did. I haven't seen Chinese Mechanic. FOBB, Yu Yung takes on Tien Feng in final fight.

I do have Brave Lion with Barry Chan, which I'll probably look at this weekend.

Kwok Choi
07-07-2010, 10:36 AM
I don't think he did. I haven't seen Chinese Mechanic. FOBB, Yu Yung takes on Tien Feng in final fight.

I do have Brave Lion with Barry Chan, which I'll probably look at this weekend.

It is Barry Chan with the bricks in "Chinese" which we never had as Chinese Mechanic

The Dragon
07-07-2010, 04:43 PM
It is Barry Chan with the bricks in "Chinese" which we never had as Chinese Mechanic

Thanks Kwok. I have this in my collection but could not remember the title. I need to re-visit this basher! I love the cheesiness!
:nerd:

GOLDEN DRAGON YIN-YANG
07-07-2010, 06:46 PM
Four Real Friends aka Dragon Squad.

Perfect ***** stars all the way.

This is the last (basher) I saw.

GD Y-Y

odioustrident
08-12-2011, 03:13 PM
Hi Shapes
Thanks for your input.I've seen " Fingers That Kill " and know it very well.It stars Lu Chun Ku billed as Tommy Loo Chun for this film.Fingers That Kill is the movie that was made a scapegoat for banning Chinese Films in Sierra Leone towards the end of 1973.Lu Chun Ku practices his technique fingering coconuts and coconut trees.
Chilvarly Knights is a lot more violent and bloody.One of the main characters is called " Chief Jien/Chief Chien " during the end fight the main villain five fingered an opponent's belly and his fingers got stuck in the guy's guts.The main hero then made a high leap and stamped on the stuck limb which got severed from the elbow.The shock of the dismembered arm killed the main villain but he made a speech of repentance before he died.Completely different movie from Fingers That Kill.

I know its a little odd to bring up an old thread like this, but this Chivalry Knights film sounds a lot like Struggle for Avengence... at least the scene you described.

We should continue this thread it was a good one!

tantao3,son of tantao2
08-12-2011, 04:16 PM
...a basher thread must go on...;-)

66 Mantis
08-13-2011, 05:12 PM
...a basher thread must go on...;-)

I'll 2nd this! There are alot of bashers that I haven't seen yet and this thread is mucho useful.

66 Mantis
08-13-2011, 07:03 PM
Godfathers of Hong Kong was one of the best bashers I've seen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXMmfIyFkI
It only exists dubbed in German, but played in theaters dubbed in English. Supposedly one collector has the dubbed film can and refuses to make copies (Grrrr). If someone knew German and could slap some English subtitles on it, that would be awesome. That film has one of the most intense finales I've ever seen.

irongut
08-16-2011, 08:56 PM
thanks to everyone for the great list of basher/boxer films! Many I have seen and many that I haven't!

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what does the term "shapes" mean in this genre?

ShaOW!linDude
08-16-2011, 09:13 PM
Sorry if this is a dumb question but what does the term "shapes" mean in this genre?

Generally you see these in the classic kung fu movies. "Shapes" refers to positions or postures in different fighting styles: Tiger, Crane, Snake, Mantis, Monkey, Dragon, Leopard, Drunken, Tai Chi, etc. (Any style actually but the Animal ones are typically the most recognizable. This can also apply to apparatus/weapons.)

At least that's my understanding of the way the term is used here.

66 Mantis
08-17-2011, 04:12 PM
Generally you see these in the classic kung fu movies. "Shapes" refers to positions or postures in different fighting styles: Tiger, Crane, Snake, Mantis, Monkey, Dragon, Leopard, Drunken, Tai Chi, etc. (Any style actually but the Animal ones are typically the most recognizable. This can also apply to apparatus/weapons.)

At least that's my understanding of the way the term is used here.

I've been familiar with the term "basher" for a long time, but this board was the first time I ever heard the term "shapes". I always used to call them "styles" or "style vs style" films.

ShaOW!linDude
08-17-2011, 08:17 PM
I've been familiar with the term "basher" for a long time, but this board was the first time I ever heard the term "shapes". I always used to call them "styles" or "style vs style" films.

Same here. Took me a little while to figure it out. We all differentiate things.......well, differently.:tongue: I, too, always considered them "styles" or "forms". But hey, "shapes" works, too.

odioustrident
08-29-2011, 11:13 PM
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OpiumKungFuCracker
07-15-2014, 12:28 AM
I am on a boxer basher kick at the moment watching he walks like a tiger.

NoKUNGFUforYU
07-15-2014, 05:29 AM
Have you seen Tough Duel with Tien Peng? That's a great basher, as is A Gathering of Heroes. To me, the ultimate is Kung Fu, the Invisible Fist, with the marathon fight at the end. There are better movies, sure, but that is one crazy brawl!

OpiumKungFuCracker
07-15-2014, 01:31 PM
Have you seen Tough Duel with Tien Peng? That's a great basher, as is A Gathering of Heroes. To me, the ultimate is Kung Fu, the Invisible Fist, with the marathon fight at the end. There are better movies, sure, but that is one crazy brawl!

Thanks for the recommendation!!!! I will add those to my watchlist!!!

NoKUNGFUforYU
07-16-2014, 09:30 PM
Also, if you want to see a decent non-shaw/GH basher, find a copy of Four Real Friends- Wang Yu, Kam Kong, Chen Sing and Chang Yi throw down against a bunch of baddies with fights choreographed by Tommy Lee/Gam Ming. Probably Yu's best fighting (a lot less swingy arms, etc) . Ming's fight choreography plays to his limits, and it has a script by Ni Kuang. Without Chang Cheh there to throw in the misogyny, one of the heroes winds up with his true love, an ex hooker, and neither one dies a horrible death! I know, hard to believe, right, for 1974. It was on the ADC last I checked.

Morgoth Bauglir
07-20-2014, 08:24 AM
Anyone for a Top Ten and why list for Bashers?

:nerd:

I'm still an amateur at bashers but I'm gonna take a shot at this.


1- Little Superman- a badass title for a badass movie. Kung fu choreography was evolving. Bashers were out, shapes were in. But Ng See Yuen didn't care. He wanted to make the basher of all bashers, and he did.

2-One Armed Boxer- it's weird to see this movie listed right alongside Little Superman as one of the best bashers. They are so wildly different. The fights are terrible when compared to Little Superman. But the story, creativity, and cheesiness is what makes this one so great. And while the fights are bad at times, the pulse pounding final fight makes up for it.

3- The Chinese Boxer- so many things to say about this movie and how it completely changed the genre, but to me the most amazing thing is how it holds up today. I can still pop this in at any time and have a blast.

4- Delighful Forest- I don't know if I've ever seen this listed as a basher. I've always classified it as one. Basher or not, it's one of the best movies ever made.

5- Ninja Holocaust- crazy mishmash of a movie. So bad it is great. The bashing is top notch. Great kicking from Cassanova and one of the most intense final fights. And if you are able to catch your breath then get ready for one of the funniest endings.

6- Tough Guy- this was the first kf movie I ever saw and it was even better when I finally got to watch it a second time. Great cast and great performances from all. Yuen Woo Pinf definitely shows huge talent here. The fight in the mud is amazing. You would think that all that mud would slow the actors down, but it's some of the best choreography in the movie.

7- Kung Fu Massacre- nothing too special, but it's one of Charles Heung's best performances and 2 time actor Jin Fu Wan gives a great acting performance and an even better fighting performance. I don't know why he wasn't in more movies. I have to assume his kicking skills were just too good for him to be in anymore bashers.

8- Four Real Friends- I always get bored by the final fight, but up until that point it is a great movie with great performances from all the stars.

9- The Manchu Boxer- I didn't like this one years ago but watching it today I have to put on this list for Lau Wing giving one of the best acting performances in any basher.

10- Call Me Dragon- While not as good as Little Superman, this is one you will want to seek out immediately if you are a fan of Bruce Leung. And instead of James Nam you get Yasuaki Kurata as the main villain. This is the movie where Kurata announced that he is one of the best screen fighters around.