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WHITETIGERNY
02-18-2007, 10:07 PM
?????
www.cduniverse.com/images...e+Gate+DVD (http://www.cduniverse.com/images.asp?pid=7351854&cart=486803485&style=movie&image=front&title=Duel+at+the+Supreme+Gate+DVD)
morgoth
02-19-2007, 01:03 AM
It is a Rarescope movie and I think I heard it is fom 1969. If I see a Rarescope title of a movie I haven't seen, I buy it. Can't wait to see what releases they have for the new year(besides the 2 I have heard about).
Ivy Ling Po
02-19-2007, 03:44 AM
This was Betty Loh Tih's last Cathay movie from 1968 before she committed suicide. A definite must-have!
Bruce Long
02-19-2007, 11:57 AM
I didn't think the movie was anything special, just typical swordplay from the late 60's. Here's the cast:
www.angelfire.com/az/ying/castf/dsg.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/az/ying/castf/dsg.htm)
HANZOSTEEL
02-19-2007, 07:31 PM
Along Comes a Tiger
Ninjas & Dragons
The Face Behind the Mask
Sure it is all based upon personal differences still.. one of these films is better than the other two.
Could someone please tell me which in your opinion of these three titles is the ''BEST''
RTY
morgoth
02-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Face behind the Mask-9/10
NInjas and Dragons-6/10
Along comes a Tiger-4/10 but, comes with a commentary from Don Wong Tao!
ironfistedmonk2003
02-19-2007, 08:14 PM
4/10! Thats a bit harsh on Along Comes a Tiger. I would go with
Along Comes a Tiger 7/10
Ninjas & Dragons 6/10
Face Behind the Mask 7.5/10, just shading it for me
morgoth
02-19-2007, 08:18 PM
Wow, I thought Along comes a tiger was bad all the way around. Wong Tao was the only good thing about it. I wish I wuldn't have even stuck around for the final fight. And Doris Lung's fights were even more horrible.
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
02-19-2007, 09:55 PM
Along Comes The Tiger 9/10 easy and morgoth you missed out on the last fight scene between Tommy Lee and Wong Tao? This film, Green Jade Statuette, and The Hot The Cool And The Vicious are THE three must have Tommy Lee flicks. Challenge Of Death too I guess. Also Kao Fei's character was pretty bad ass with his attitude an all. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Rarescope's version of this film. Tung Wei's character (guy with the straw stickin out of his mouth) was entertaining as the more of a smart ass than a bad ass. I may have spelt his name wrong, but wasn't he Bruce Lee's top student at that time?
The Face Behind The Mask I've purchased merely because Yueh Hua and Lo Lieh are in it, skimmed through it, but it hardly possesses the character of Along Comes The Tiger's uniqueness and invention.
Ninjas And Dragons... never seen it, looked at it, but didn't see anyone too notable in it and a lack of notoble leads means... |I
morgoth
02-19-2007, 09:58 PM
"Along Comes The Tiger 9/10 easy and morgoth you missed out on the last fight scene between Tommy Lee and Wong Tao?"
I said I wish I would have missed it. Tommy Lee is much better in movies like Seven Steps of Kung Fu and others you named.
morgoth
02-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Rating the 3 DVD's looks like this from me.
1-Face Behind the Mask-tons of good fights, good star power, great comedy(though it is a serious type of film), and a masked Jackie Chan has a great cameo fight scene.
2-Tiger-decent quality cheese but the DVD is a must have for the audio commentary.
3-Ninjas-decent movie but no special features except for trailer. It does star Dong Li though:p
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
02-19-2007, 11:08 PM
I said I wish I would have missed it.
:rollin Now that's funny. I'll have to check that Face Behind The Mask out again pretty soon and see just what I may (or may not) be missing.
morgoth
02-19-2007, 11:19 PM
vengeanceofhumanlanterns-don't skim through it, it is not a boring movie at all. Be sure to tell me what you think. I believe the movie is from 1974 and it has awesome fight scenes if it is or even if it isn't that old.
Also, check out Killer Wears White if you wanna see Tung Wei in a really good performance. It is AKA Shadow NInja in the 50 pack(and 20 pack). He is freaking on fire in this movie. "WHITE KILLER!!!!!!!!!!"
gogalee
02-20-2007, 12:35 AM
Ninja's & Dragons- 7/10
falkor
02-20-2007, 07:58 AM
Along - 8
Face - 7
Ninjas - 6
Ivy Ling Po
02-20-2007, 08:48 AM
Further research has revealed that Betty Loh Ti shot Duet At The Supreme Gate in 1968 not for Cathay but for her own company Golden Eagle which she formed with her brother Kelly Lai Chen and director Yuan Chiu Feng.
Markgway
02-20-2007, 09:54 AM
Along Comes a Tiger **/4
The Face Behind the Mask **.5/4 (almost a *** so I would recommend it to fans)
chingdog
02-20-2007, 11:52 AM
Along 8/10
Face 8/10
Ninjas 5/10
TanTao2
02-20-2007, 12:06 PM
...can anyone name all the movies Golden Eagle company put out?
To start: their first one was Wandering Knight in 1968.
inchilottaP
02-20-2007, 12:33 PM
Suprised this comes out today. :eek
killer meteor
02-20-2007, 01:53 PM
Along - 4/10
Face - 5/10
Cotton Mill - 6/10
dager in the cotton
02-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Along 9/10
Face 7/10
Ninja 5/10
cottonmill 10/10
Chen Zhen
02-20-2007, 04:48 PM
cotton mill is one of the most overrated movies ive seen in a while...i dont get y ppl call it a classic, and this and that...its a very average movie with slightly better than avg fights...gets no better than a 7/10 from me. and im a big fan of tan tao liang.
fabhui
02-20-2007, 07:53 PM
Here's my ratings for the following Rarescope titles for what it's worth, which probably ain't a lot! :lol
Choi Lee Fat Kung Fu = 8
Along Come The Tiger = 9
General Stone = 6
Love and Sword = 8
Ninjas and Dragons = 6
Showdown at the Cotton Mill = 7
The Drunken Dragon = 9
Face Behind The Mask = 9
Lost Swordship = 7
HANZOSTEEL
02-20-2007, 09:28 PM
Thanks, this helps a lot
morgoth
02-20-2007, 11:12 PM
Of all the rarescope titles I have seen.
Face Behind the mask-9/10
Cottonmill-9/10(also has a must see special feature)-and Chen Zhen, are you not a big Chi Kuan-chun fan?
CLF-8/10(another great special feature)
Lost Swordship-7/10
Drunken Dragon-7/10(I needed more of the fat girl)
Ninjas-6/10
Tiger-3/7, I changed my rating of this after seeing Markgway's 2/4:p
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
02-20-2007, 11:43 PM
Showdown At The Cotton Mill is an 7.5/10 easy. Good movie and Rarescope did a decent job on such a rare film.
Markgway
02-21-2007, 12:26 AM
Tiger-3/7, I changed my rating of this after seeing Markgway's 2/4
I find it easier to give marks out of four than ten for some reason. :smokin
morgoth
02-21-2007, 12:33 AM
Yeah, I was just joking. I am now actually thinking of rating movies out of 3. This way I can give Face Behind the Mask and Cottonmill a perfect 3/3:p
JustinB123
02-21-2007, 09:05 PM
If I remember correctly, Cliff from BCI mentioned that this was supposed to come out at the same time as The Elimination Pursuit, but it's been delayed so they can prepare a new transfer. Don't quote me on that though...
Vorvadoss
02-21-2007, 09:09 PM
Yeah its been delayed.. I actually emailed him recently and he replied with :
Hi,
Yes, DUEL had to be rescheduled. There is a new transfering being done.
Best,
Cliff
morgoth
02-21-2007, 11:28 PM
As long as I get my copy of Elimination pursuit on Friday, everything will be fine and I will at least be able to breath easier.
Ivy Ling Po
02-22-2007, 09:27 AM
Really, is The Elimination Pursuit so good?
I understand it is a short movie and finishes at 76 minutes, followed by flashbacks. Thatis what kept me from ordering it.
Ivy Ling Po
02-24-2007, 03:31 PM
Please rate The Elimination Pursuit. Thinking of getting it but hesitant.
morgoth
02-24-2007, 09:25 PM
8/10 from me on Elimination Purssuit. I have seen it 3 times already:D
daTOAD
05-09-2007, 05:34 AM
Anyone know when Return of the Deafly Blade and The Dream Sword will be released?
Ivy Ling Po
05-09-2007, 08:22 AM
What about Duel At The Supreme Gate?
Amazon keeps on saying "shipping in 3 to 6 weeks".
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
05-09-2007, 08:44 AM
I hope Return Of The Deadly Blade is in english subtitles instead of just english dubbed. I'd be very happy to see that.
the dirty tiger
05-09-2007, 12:29 PM
From Rarescope you can bet your ass it should be subbed and wide too :)
Markgway
05-09-2007, 01:35 PM
That's if they get released....
Uncle Yu
05-09-2007, 01:37 PM
Is Rarescope really going to release Dream Sword?
daTOAD
05-09-2007, 02:41 PM
by the replies im starting to slowly lose faith in getting these titles.nobody seems to know when theyre coming.cant even find anything on the net. when were these previews avaible anyway? did they come with the first batch of films or are they newly[07] released? hope this makes sense.
the dirty tiger
05-09-2007, 03:21 PM
Rarescope has had the rights to Dream Sword for over a year now, it is certainly in the pipeline if they dont choose to halt releases due to piracy. The market is very bad at the moment, in no small part thanks to the booters. I urge the rarescope boss to at least release those they have lined up, I hope he will. Let's all keep trying to educate people to buy instead of boot and try to make some more new converts. :D The fact that BCI are distributing them in the US is very much a good thing as they should reach wider distribution anyway, and everything Rarescope has done so far has been genuinely super rare ;)
daTOAD
05-09-2007, 03:34 PM
i agree. we should not support the boots[feel a bit like a hippocrite though-as ive been collecting since before dvd and official releases], but i generally think no one wants to support boots but the people making them seem to work harder[at getting them out] than the owners of the material.i might walk outside and get hit by a bus tommorow. i want to see the movie now.if its avaible why wait[this is the general thought, not particulary my thoughts].and in the end its the fan who gets the short end of the stick. ive got like 3-5 versions of some movies. everybody gets paid and i end up spending $100 for one movie. unfortunatly for me i love martial arts, 80s horror, Spaghetti westerns,drive inn 60s-70s, old Italian stuff and the mainstream has no real love for these movies so im forced to get them how i can.:(
morgoth
05-09-2007, 07:33 PM
WHat is that movie where they are fighting in the rain? Sword of Justice I think. That is the movie I am most looking forward too. Wouldn't mind seeing Ninjas in Ancient China and Monks Fight also.
Markgway
05-09-2007, 10:11 PM
Looks like the next few Rarescope releases will go ahead.
But Vengeance has gone on (permanent?) hiatus.
Blame pirates and greedy retailers.
cliffmac
05-10-2007, 12:13 PM
DUEL will be out in August.
CUB TIGER OF KWANTUNG should follow in September along with a new special edition of CHINESE HERCULES.
Cliff
Uncle Yu
05-10-2007, 12:33 PM
Hi Cliffmac, i'm glad you responded. Is it still to soon to reveal that news you talked about in an earlier post?
teako170
05-11-2007, 03:55 PM
How about this one, Cliff?
http://files.myopera.com/rarescope/blog/KING_OF_FISTS-front.jpg
morgoth
05-28-2007, 09:07 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHXyJd1d6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHXyJd1d6E)
fabhui
05-29-2007, 03:37 PM
Your best bet is to ask Toby. I really hope he does put it out but I get a sickening feeling in my stomach that this might not see the light of day.
Markgway
05-29-2007, 09:25 PM
I got the impression the answer is no. But that's not definate AFAIK.
GwaiLoMoFo
05-30-2007, 03:04 AM
I got the impression the answer is no.
Lol! After the months flakor spent hyping this as the greatest swordplay ever made. Now a decent legit version might not ever be available.
Lei Kung
05-30-2007, 04:13 AM
That looks pretty sick. Such artistic slaughtering the way only Roc can give it.
Didn't someone post Rarescope boxart for this recently or was it something else?
WHITETIGERNY
05-30-2007, 08:16 PM
Got a legit tape.
morgoth
05-30-2007, 11:45 PM
I didn't see Roc TIen in their Lei Kung, but the movie does look super badass.
Lei Kung
05-31-2007, 03:06 AM
Yeah, guess it wasn't Roc. It looked like him in the first scene stabbing the guy behind him, until the camera changed angles. I guess somebody else can kill as artistically as him.
And I was wrong about the cover scan too. It was King of Fists and Dollars starring Roc Tien, that Teako posted. By the way, any word on this one?
Jesse Smooth
05-31-2007, 04:20 AM
I think theres's a VCD under the title A SWORD NAMED REVENGE???????
Brigadier Chow
05-31-2007, 02:22 PM
That is a different movie.
Mr Dragula
07-04-2007, 08:47 AM
It's pretty sad when people feel the need to boot dvd's that originally only retail for 6-7$ (shipping included at deep discount) online..
While the embedded subs have been a big disappointment, I for one have really enjoyed the Rarescope line and truly hope it somehow manages to stay a float.
WHITETIGERNY
07-04-2007, 12:22 PM
Rarescope is a great outfit.
Never met them but their efforts are wonderful.
I can't seem to find The General Stone dvd here in the states.
Keep up the good work.
I am buying everything they make.
achiever
07-04-2007, 03:31 PM
Whitetiger... if you haven't checked my list yet, I've got the rarescope General Stone!
;)
Mr Dragula
07-04-2007, 07:59 PM
The rarescope's only available in region 2 for the moment..
www.amazon.co.uk/General-...B000GHRCEO (http://www.amazon.co.uk/General-Stone-Polly-Shang-Kuan/dp/B000GHRCEO)
JustinB123
07-04-2007, 08:04 PM
According to Toby Russell, the UK rights to Return of the Deadly Blade, Dream Sword and Ninja in Ancient China have been sold to this company: www.greenfandvd.com (http://www.greenfandvd.com)
morgoth
07-04-2007, 09:29 PM
Any info on Sword of Justice?:(
shadow kick
07-05-2007, 12:17 AM
seems nobody on this board has seen
kung fu trouble maker--wen chiang lung ;wong chung
bloody mission---liu yung ; pang gang
shaolin devil and shaolin angel--wong tao ; chen hsing
heroes of shaolin--hwang jang lee ; chen hsing
shaolin magnificent armour--carter wong ;tung li.
All classic flicks, that should easily make anyone's top ten or twenty list......
luv to see if rarescope ever touches " kung fu trouble maker ", the martial arts on hand is superb.....
shadowkick.
Robert Ian Teller
07-05-2007, 01:03 PM
is Kung Fu Trouble Maker the same film as Kung Fu Rebels (released in US vhs by New Horizons dubbed) and Trouble Maker Coming (released by Tai Seng subbed)?
ironfistedmonk2003
07-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Yes same film mate
Lei Kung
07-05-2007, 07:35 PM
Anyone know anything about this new Greenfan label? I'm glad to see Ninjas in Ancient China will get released...been waiting for this one since I first saw the rarescope trailer reel. I had no idea it was a Chen Cheh film either.
fabhui
07-05-2007, 07:38 PM
Only know that the person behind the label bought the reels from Toby Russell and will be releasing the movies on DVD here in the UK.
Green Fan DVD (http://www.greenfandvd.com)
Lei Kung
07-05-2007, 07:45 PM
hfadskl;fla UK only!? Is there a cheap way to convert PAL to an NTSC TV?
Chen Zhen
07-05-2007, 11:06 PM
heroes of shaolin
ive seen that....classic movie....i personally enjoyed it more than invincible armour
morgoth
07-05-2007, 11:08 PM
Heroes of SHaolin is deep.
johnnydragon
07-06-2007, 12:31 AM
I seen all the others but not monks fight! looks off the hook on the clip! and most cheap dvd players like colby,daewoo
have auto pal to nstc conversion. my deawoo had a code and plays anything. (codes on line) thats the cheap way! put it in the player!!! the bad thing about getting dvd's from the UK is there money is worth double the USA's
Long live Rarescope!! and happy about the swordplays
getting released in the U.S by fusian & Crash masters
fabhui
07-06-2007, 02:25 PM
Coming end of July from Rarescope
Drunken Master Slippery Snake (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/3432402/Drunken-Master-Slippery-Snake/Product.html)
Markgway
07-06-2007, 03:03 PM
I think that's a retitle for Mad Mad Kung Fu.
ironfistedmonk2003
07-06-2007, 03:12 PM
Yeah thats the one, also called Ol Dirty something or other
johnnydragon
07-07-2007, 02:07 AM
were cliff lok learns EEL style? that one?
GwaiLoMoFo
08-19-2007, 04:10 AM
Saw this one on the shelf today and dont know anything about it. I know its only like $8, but anybody know if its worth dropping some cash on?? Any good?
morgoth
08-19-2007, 04:42 PM
Wow, it finally came out. I am wonderign about this one too.
fabhui
08-19-2007, 05:03 PM
Well I know Toby said he wouldn't be releasing this one on the Rarescope label here in the UK as he didn't think it was good enough, not sure if he meant the quality of the print or the movie itself!
Anyway, I've ordered it off amazon. Can't really go wrong for £4
HAZ74
09-12-2007, 04:43 PM
Hi,
Ipicked up a few movies from rarescope on a whim last weekend, "love & Sword" & "The Lost Swordship". Both were amazing: particularly the sets & the cinematography. Reminded me of King Hu films. The subs were the old school embedded kinds, but I could read them no problem & they made perfect sense. I haven't seen much on-line about rarescope since they started releasing their dvd's (maybe I'm not looking in the right places?), but they definetely deserve some good press. For the price, they're really worth picking up. I'm going to get a few others this week. They need a website with a full filmography of their releases. This Roc Tien dude is awesome. I wanna know more.
peace
h
JustinB123
09-12-2007, 10:20 PM
There is a website for the UK Rarescope although it hasn't been updated in awhile and some of the titles listed have not been released. Here's the address: my.opera.com/rarescope/blog/ (http://my.opera.com/rarescope/blog/)
morgoth
09-13-2007, 12:00 AM
Check out Elimination Pursuit. Roc Tien Peng will blow your mind.
Mr Dragula
09-13-2007, 02:57 AM
I just ordered Cub Tiger of Kwang Tung, AKA: Master With Cracked Fingers. Per chance has anyone on the board had a chance to watch the rarescope release, if so what were your thoughts?
Overall the collection's pretty cool. Sadly some of the subs leave a lot to be desired, which is my only real complaint. Most are embedded, some are dubtitles, some get cut off, some are white and hard to read, and all of the above. I would think even those that are embedded could have some sort of effect done so they stand out a bit more clearly.
Still for the price, they're a great pick up. I wish BCI would post some updates on the collection via a website such as their Ronin entertainment or Deimos sites.
kel8228
09-13-2007, 03:06 PM
cub tiger not a great print..
Mr Dragula
09-13-2007, 06:53 PM
They usually aren't. How were the subs?
morgoth
09-13-2007, 07:14 PM
Is this movie different from Master with Cracked Fingers? Does it have a different final fight?
killer meteor
09-13-2007, 09:41 PM
Cub Tiger is the original version before all that stuff with Yuen Siu Tien, Kwan Young Moon and Dean Shek was added in
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
09-14-2007, 08:59 AM
The Kings Of Fists And Dollars is still unavailable? Has it been released yet?
Just ordered Elimination Pursuit.
morgoth
09-14-2007, 05:58 PM
Is the final fight in Cub Tiger worth watching? Is it a better movie than Master with Cracked Fingers?
Markgway
09-14-2007, 09:18 PM
Not all of the Rarescope titles are going to be released in the UK.
TRAVYODA
09-16-2007, 10:55 PM
On the subject of Cub Tiger From Kwang Tung, i see that an extra feature is entitled "An audience with Jackie Chan". Is this a newly recorded interview or some old, recycled thing?
Yakuza954
09-16-2007, 11:00 PM
It's an old interview he did in England. The crowd is pretty rowdy and he doesn't really say anything new so it's nothing special.
kel8228
09-17-2007, 11:07 AM
think its from planet hollywood 1995 or so
HAZ74
09-18-2007, 12:07 PM
So far, the only rarescope movie I didn't love is "A Sword Called Revenge". Can't complain about the sets, but the story had me going "Huh?!?" I got Elimination Pursuit on the docket for tonight. I can't wait!!!! I haven't seen too many glowing reviews for this stuff on line, but I'd say rarescope is a must for people who like their kung fu flix with a sprinkle of weird, zany, wacky schitt & beautiful cinematography. Think of King Hu on acid. DO NOT SLEEP & buy these now!!!
peace
h
morgoth
09-18-2007, 07:25 PM
Dude Elimination Pursuit doesn't just have a sprinkle of crazy stuff, it is all crazy. Let me know if you make it out of that movie alive.
JustinB123
09-18-2007, 07:57 PM
I didn't think A Sword Called Revenge had been released. Where did you get it?
morgoth
09-18-2007, 08:12 PM
I was wondering that too, but the only movies I care about right now are Monk's Fight, Sword of Justice and NInjas in Ancient China. WHEN ARE THESE COMING OUT?!?
Mr Dragula
09-19-2007, 10:36 AM
I was wondering that too, but the only movies I care about right now are Monk's Fight, Sword of Justice and NInjas in Ancient China. WHEN ARE THESE COMING OUT?!?
Good Question. I can't help but wonder IF they're even coming out anymore?
HAZ74
09-19-2007, 12:16 PM
Hi Guys,
The Sword Named Revenge dvd was chinese. I got it in my city's Chinatown. The menus are totally in Chinese, but the subs are english, burnt in. It looks like a rarescope DVD in regards to picture. I'll ask the guy at the store where he got it from & if he has more.
h
killer meteor
09-19-2007, 02:16 PM
Sounds like a boot
I'm hoping to see Wrath Of The Sword get a release
HAZ74
09-19-2007, 04:29 PM
Sounds like a boot
I'm sure it must be, but has this been released legitmately? Maybe the release has been held up because of bootlegging?
JustinB123
09-19-2007, 09:37 PM
Apparently, Rarescope will not be releasing Ninjas in Ancient China (at least in the UK). A new company called Greenfan DVD bought the rights from them: www.greenfandvd.com (http://www.greenfandvd.com)
Brigadier Chow
09-20-2007, 11:31 AM
That is not a Rarescope print you saw of SNR, that is the Taiwanese Hoker Records print. This is a legit release and it has been on the market for almost 2 years. So now it is possible other companies are booting it, they even sell double bill of it with Love and Sword in NYC Chinatown.
kermit
09-20-2007, 03:23 PM
'Ninja in Ancient China' will be out before the end of the year.
Mr Dragula
09-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Apparently, Rarescope will not be releasing Ninjas in Ancient China (at least in the UK).
Well it still appears on the coming soon trailer reel in the special features, so here's hoping.
Is the final fight in Cub Tiger worth watching? Is it a better movie than Master with Cracked Fingers?
The final fight isn't anything special really, but i'd still say the original cuts the better version. Obviously it just flows better, and it isn't as outright ridiculous as the re-edited release. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it, weak plot and all.
As has been noted before, the print is washed out and shows considerable damage. The subs are of course embedded, and jump between the standard original hard to see white subs, and some newly added subtitling to the black bars. Wish they would've just kept the new subs on through out the entire film, as the previous ones are such a chore to read.
morgoth
09-20-2007, 06:33 PM
thanks for the info.
Mr Dragula
09-22-2007, 09:03 AM
Anyone have an idea of what the next US release will be?
ironfistedmonk2003
09-22-2007, 09:49 AM
They have just released Dance of Death in the UK, not sure what the next US release is though
thejadefacedassassin
09-23-2007, 03:57 AM
My friend says Duel At The Supreme Gate has Betty Loh Tih doing some nifty wu xia movies. She is of course one of the legendary greats but is so versatile she can fit into any genre.
Ditto for another screen great Ivy Ling Po. Both are not kungfu actresses but Ivy was great in The 14 Amazons and The Crimson Charm displaying dexterity.
greenfankermit
09-25-2007, 10:40 AM
I was wondering that too, but the only movies I care about right now are Monk's Fight, Sword of Justice and NInjas in Ancient China. WHEN ARE THESE COMING OUT?!?
Ninja in Ancient China will be out this year and will include an audio commentary and liner notes.
teako170
09-25-2007, 08:18 PM
Ninja in Ancient China will be out this year and will include an audio commentary and liner notes. Who will be doing the commentary for this film?
And I assume (hope) this will be the wide print that Rarescope was originally planning to release?
greenfankermit
09-25-2007, 09:49 PM
It's the same print that Rarescope were going to release.
HAZ74
09-26-2007, 11:22 AM
That's some exciting news about "Greenfan"! Will the movies have retranslated subs or are they the burnt in kind?
h
HAZ74
09-30-2007, 02:06 PM
Just watched Ninjas & Dragons. This was WICKED fun: Transvestites, Killer Chinese Mini-me Dwarves, Sexy broads, explosions, & ninjas. I'd say give it a whirl. There are some comic elements & the closing fight was great. Again, thanks to rarescope for putting these out there!! Next up: Face behind the mask! Just the name has me amped!!!
morgoth
09-30-2007, 06:49 PM
That little guy is hilarious! One thing that disappointed me in Ninjas and Dragons was the action. It stars the villain from South Shaolin Master, but he doesn't get to do crap.
Have you watched Elimination Pursuit yet HAZ? I love literally everything about that movie, especially Roc Tien and the music. Amazing movie. I just wish it was longer.
HAZ74
10-01-2007, 01:01 PM
Hi Morgoth,
I've been saving Elimination Pursuit. I watched the first 5 minutes, with that crazy song/montage & thought the movie looked wicked. I think I'll get to it this week. These movies are so zany. I luv em. People, don't sleep!!!!!!
h
morgoth
10-01-2007, 05:23 PM
Cool. Enjoy Face Behind the Mask. It is a gem.
HAZ74
10-04-2007, 12:41 PM
If you haven't posted in this thread, then you don't like Kung Fu movies. Just sayin'.
morgoth
10-04-2007, 09:05 PM
Or maybe they like movies with good pic quality. Me, I like em all.
Winfred
10-17-2007, 12:46 PM
Can anyone advise if A Sword Named Revenge is a worthy buy? I already have The Dream Sword on unsubtitled fullframed VCD so I will be getting this twofer primarily for A Sword Named Revenge. Amazon is offering a 10% discount off the list price!
I wasn't that crazy for Sword Called Revenge. Its not that it was unenjoyable, but the plot had me a bit confused. I'd get it just becuase its cheap, rarescope needs our support, and you may even end up liking the movie!
MadManDragula
10-17-2007, 07:01 PM
Haven't see either, for only $8.27 at deep i'll unquestionably be picking it up.
Yagyu_Tajima
10-17-2007, 10:26 PM
If you are looking to start a collection than the two pack is worth picking up considering it's price is so reasonable. It's based on a Gu Long novel, so if you've seen The Lost Swordship (another Rarescope release based on a Gu Long novel and directed by Li Chia), then you should have some idea of what Sword Named Revenge will be like.
venom10463
10-18-2007, 03:35 AM
You definitely can't beat the prices on those rarescope titles. I didn't enjoy A Sword Named Revenge, but I'll still pick it up to support bci and rarescope.
Grady-San
12-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Curious.. I just popped in the double feature release from rarescope (Sword Named Revenge - The Dream Sword"... And under the features section they have a few min clip named Shaolin Heroes with a pretty slick segment with a guy doing what looks like a chicken style. What is this clip from?
Morgoth
12-26-2007, 03:24 PM
Maybe it is from Shaolin Heroes? Just a guess. I haven't seen the movie.
I just got this 2-pack and I thought Dream Sword was a slightly above average wuxia. Nothing too special about it except the sets, costumes, Chung Wa's great acting, and Lung Fei weilding an axe to perfection. Lung Fei is the fuckin man. I started watching Sword Named Revenge but the first 20 minutes or so didn't interest me too much. I will watch it some other time.
Iron_Jinon
12-26-2007, 03:47 PM
as celestial are afraid of releasing movies with poor picture quality,Rarescope who seems to be more brave company should try to get rights for "to kill a mastermind"
ironfistedmonk
12-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Shaolin Heroes is a Champ Wang and Doris Lung movie, there is a short tournament fight for possession of a sword or some other martial world object and one of the guys does chicken fist style so maybe it is Shaolin Heroes lol. I didn't know they had a clip of this on the disc, it's still a fairly obscure movie and has some fantastic action, you've gotta check it out if you get the chance just to seen Doris Lung in the end fight beating the shite out of everyone with one hand! It'll make you re-evaluate who you think is the best fighting female mate.
Grady-San
12-26-2007, 11:00 PM
Ahh my bad, the way they present it in the extra's section made it look more like just something rarescope named to show it off as compilation clip or something. Hehe now I feel sorta stupid for asking such a obvious answer
Thanks for the information, I will have to check this movie out sometime :)
JustinB
12-27-2007, 06:03 AM
Shaolin Heroes is great! Track it down if you can. IMO, Doris Lung's one-handed fight near the end of the movie is probably one of the best fights in any KF movie. I think the Flashlegs version is the only version ever put out on DVD.
Iff people want a copy of "Sword Named Revenge" with english subs & Mandarin soundtrack, PM me. Maybe we can work out trade.
ironfistedmonk
12-27-2007, 05:05 PM
I've got the FLK version, they have a trailer of it on their site, if you guys haven't seen the movie go check out the trailer, it's some bad ass stuff!!!!!!
Righteous Master
01-04-2008, 12:57 AM
If I only were intrested in picking up 1 or 2 Rarescope films which 1 or 2 would be must haves?
WhiteTiger1
01-04-2008, 01:09 AM
If I only were intrested in picking up 1 or 2 Rarescope films which 1 or 2 would be must haves?
I'll say these, 1st two for sure
Along Comes The Tiger
Showdown at The Cotton Mill
Choi Lee Fut Kung Fu
Ninjas and Dragons
To name a few:cool:
Morgoth
01-04-2008, 01:13 AM
Showdown at the Cottonmill is my #1 pick, but if you like a good wuxia check out Elimination Pursuit or Love and Sword. Good fights in both, but Love and Sword is overall a better movie. If you are looking for crazy kung fu check out Drunken Dragon.
Monk Sante
01-08-2008, 06:48 AM
Correct me if IM wrong but is this "Hot, Cool & the Vicious"?
http://cgi.ebay.com/EASTERN-CLASSICS-1-TAN-TAO-LIANG-2-DVDs-NEU_W0QQitemZ320201502795QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2302QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Looks only like a rarescope by design to me. Maybe the same guy who did the rarescope designs did stuff for this too or they stole the design?
venomsfreak
01-08-2008, 08:33 PM
The pic on the left side of Tan is from The Hot the Cool and the Vicious, the one on the right side isn't.
Righteous Master
01-08-2008, 10:12 PM
Hey everyone, I just recently bought the Rarescope film Along Comes The Tiger. I read on these forums that Rarescope films were pretty good, so I bought one.
I have not finished watching the movie yet, but I have a question for those of us who own a Rarescope title. Are these movies really digitally remastered and what exactly does that mean? I assume that remastered is not the same as restored.
Here is what the back of the DVD says, "Digitally remastered from the original 35mm negative!" Then on the very bottom right of the back of the DVD box it says this, "Please note: Every effort has been made to find the best possible source material for this DVD. Unfortunatly, this film has been lost for many years and this recently discovered print is the only known surviving element available."
What? I am glad that this movie has become available for us to watch, but Rarescope seems like they want us to believe that they have tried their best to give us the best possible film image quality they could.
I would have to assume that if this film or any other Rarescope release was in another companies hands (say Dragon Dynasty) that a much better quality image and sound would be the final result.
What do you guys think?
TibetanWhiteCrane
01-08-2008, 10:43 PM
I also have that dvd, and found the quality to be decent, but not of celestial standards or something! Although it is like ten times better than the rarescope version of SHOWDOWN AT COTTONMILL which was in really bad shape! I think it's because Rarescope is a relatively small label, with limited funds! Im sure HKL,DD or celestial would have done a better job, given that they have more money and resources! Also, the movie itself (ALONG COMES THE TIGER) was shot on different types of film stock, or so they said in the AC! And apparantly was poorly kept at Wong Taos house or something.
AlbertV
01-08-2008, 11:42 PM
I have the Showdown At Cotton Mill DVD and I agree Tibetan, the quality wasn't exactly perfect. I also have NINJAS AND DRAGONS and the quality was more like it came from home video. I would agree that Celestial, HKL, and DD have provided better quality for the films they released. On the other hand, the films Rarescope release are in fact just that...rare and I can understand that even with limited funds, it can be hard to try to totally remaster and restore the entire prints of these films. God knows how long they have been in the vaults.
Markgway
01-09-2008, 12:06 AM
They're not remastered - that would cost too much - but are taken from cinema prints and so have an inherent superiority over video-generated bootlegs.
Yeah, never. The main point of that company's to just find the classics that were thought to be long gone. But the reason theirs usually looks better than most budget companies is because they have the original reels, as opposed to most cheap companies that just take 'em from second or even third generation VHS! I hate that crap :mad:
DAJIZZARIZZA
01-09-2008, 12:34 AM
it can be a play on words,.. example:
digitally remastered can even mean transferred from a non-digital source to a digital source ,..such as transferring from vhs to dvd.
remastered to us ,.. means simply high quality picture and some extras.
i like rarescope alot ,.. however; they do come off with some el' crap'o quality at times.
i think we live during a great time in history,.. as far as technology goes. we are getting spoiled with all these high quality restoration jobs,.. to the point , when we look at a old school (hard to find ) movie ,.. we cringe,..lol
hey my eyes love the eye candy of the big time companies,.. but i also have an eye for rare very low budget bootleg , scraped off a vhs type kung-fu.
don't you guys have a feeling, deep in your gut ,.. celestials' restored shaws ,.. looks better than even when the film was 1st cut ?
bunafireonafussy
01-09-2008, 12:39 AM
it looks like a german release.
Righteous Master
01-09-2008, 01:22 AM
Just out of curiousity, what is the best Rarescope release so far in terms of entertainment, video and sound? Also, I am thinking of buying the Rarescope release of "Jackie Chan's first real movie." (I can't remember the name of the movie though)Is this film decent?
To answer the question of celestial pictures restored shaws, the image quality is so good now that the picture could very well be better than it was when it was released in the theatres decades ago.
TibetanWhiteCrane
01-09-2008, 01:24 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am eternally grateful to Celestial for remastering the shaw libary! But I actually often feel that the celestials almost look to perfect at times! Trust me, im not complaining, but some of the OLD SKOOL FEEL is gone, when it's all so shiny and bright! Am I the only one??
ironfistedmonk
01-09-2008, 01:34 AM
No mate your not the only one, they look too good at times! Watching the dodgy full screen pan and scan nth generation boot is tough if done straight after watching an IVL Celestial.
Best Rarescope release for me was Love and Sword, this is a great Tien Peng swordplay movie and the picture quality is alright.
Righteous Master
01-09-2008, 01:39 AM
I guess I would have to disagree with you on that one. I have no problem watching old school films that are scratchy and grainy, however there comes a point where even the greatest film is ruined by just plain bad video quality. When I watch the restored Shaw films I feel like I am in another world for a little while and get to escape the ordinary hustle.
Morgoth
01-09-2008, 03:58 AM
Best Rarescope release for me was Love and Sword, this is a great Tien Peng swordplay movie and the picture quality is alright.
THat is a great movie.
My fav is Showdown at the Cottonmill. All of Rarescope's movies are good, except I didn't really like Along comes a tiger. But the commentary from Wong Tao makes it a must own DVD. The only other rarescope movie I didn't like is Sword Named Revenge, but that is cool because it comes in a 2-pack with a good movie called Dream Sword.
Here are my ratings for all of the Rarescope releases-
Showdown at the Cottonmill- 4.5/5
Lost Swordship- 3.5/5
Love and Sword- 4/5
Duel at the Supreme gate- 2.5/5
Along Comes a Tiger- 2/5
Elimination Pursuit- 4/5
Drunken Dragon- 3.5/5
Dream Sword- 3.5/5 Sword Named Revenge-1.5/5 (2-pack)
CLF Kung Fu- 3.5/5
Ninjas and Dragons- 3/5
Face Behind the Mask- 4.5/5
I am probably forgetting one... These are American releases. Anyone want to list the British releases?
Cub Tiger is the only rarescope release I don't plan on getting. I didn't like Master with Cracked Fingers and I can't see Cub Tiger being too much better.
fabhui
01-09-2008, 04:10 AM
The UK releases on the Rarescope label are:
Showdown At The Cotton Mill
Lost Swordship
Face Behind The Mask
Ninjas And Dragons
Drunken Dragon
Choi Lee Fat Kung Fu
General Stone
Love And Sword
Along Comes A Tiger
Cub Tiger From Kwan Tung
Chinese Hercules
Drunken Master, Slippery Snake
Dance Of Death
Warriors From The Water Margin
Spirited Warrior
Born To Fight
Morgoth
01-09-2008, 04:22 AM
General Stone?!?! That may be even worse than Sword Named Revenge. I wonder why they released that.
Born to Fight and Spirited Killer came out in the US but not under the Rarescope name. I guess the US side just wants classic kung fu titles to say Rarescope on the DVD.
And is Drunken MAster Slippery Snake aka Ol' Dirty Kung Fu, the one with Lee Hoi San and Cliff Lok?
JustinB
01-09-2008, 05:00 AM
My only complaint about Rarescope is the encoding quality on the DVDs - they often have all sorts of digital artifacts and noise in the picture. I don't mind scratches, mold and other print damage that would cost a fortune to clean up, but easily avoidable encoding/mastering problems are annoying.
WhiteTiger1
01-09-2008, 05:04 AM
And is Drunken MAster Slippery Snake aka Ol' Dirty Kung Fu, the one with Lee Hoi San and Cliff Lok?
Stars;Sun Kuo-Ming, Tsou Mei Yi, Liang Chia-Jen,Phillip Kao Fei
Morgoth
01-09-2008, 05:07 AM
Wow, Ko Fei and Leung Kar Yan. That makes it a must see for me. Do you know if it goes by another name other than Drunken Master Slippery Snake?
WhiteTiger1
01-09-2008, 05:09 AM
Wow, Ko Fei and Leung Kar Yan. That makes it a must see for me. Do you know if it goes by another name other than Drunken Master Slippery Snake?
Exciting Dragon
Morgoth
01-09-2008, 05:11 AM
Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. That must be the US release of Drunken Dragon. Crazy movie. I love that fat girl.
greenfan
01-09-2008, 05:39 AM
You've got that wrong, Whitetiger.
Drunken Master, Slippery Snake stars Cliff Lok, Simon Yuen and Lee Hoi San
WhiteTiger1
01-09-2008, 06:04 AM
You've got that wrong, Whitetiger.
Drunken Master, Slippery Snake stars Cliff Lok, Simon Yuen and Lee Hoi SanYour right!!
Morgoth- you were rightI was the one confused I mixed Drunken Master with Drunken Dragon
And is Drunken MAster Slippery Snake aka Ol' Dirty Kung Fu, the one with Lee Hoi San and Cliff Lok?
Killer Meteor
01-09-2008, 08:23 PM
I though the picture quality on Showdown and Along Came A Tiger was very poor. Lots of edge enhancement and video flaws. I presume they came from old video masters - no new film-DVD transfer should look like that
WhiteTiger1
01-10-2008, 01:22 AM
I though the picture quality on Showdown and Along Came A Tiger was very poor. Lots of edge enhancement and video flaws. I presume they came from old video masters - no new film-DVD transfer should look like that
Compared to what was available on these two movies for years these two were big improvements. I have a wide-screen and a full-screen vhs of Along comes a Tiger both were poor but fair for what was available at that time. These in my opinion are good for what there was before these came out. Showdown at the Cotton Mill I couldn't find until this one came out. Not to say there weren't copies out there for this movie. I just could not find it!! :)
fabhui
01-10-2008, 02:05 AM
And is Drunken MAster Slippery Snake aka Ol' Dirty Kung Fu, the one with Lee Hoi San and Cliff Lok?
Yep that's the one. The Rarescope print is widescreen and absolute mint but....it's also cut:(
ironfistedmonk
01-10-2008, 02:45 AM
The Rarescope Showdown at the Cotton Mill is a million times better than the version that was floating about before, that was one of the worst I have ever seen in terms of picture quality.
The Rarescope Showdown at the Cotton Mill is a million times better than the version that was floating about before, that was one of the worst I have ever seen in terms of picture quality.
As I've posted before, it was pretty clean, the only major gripe I had was how high the contrast was. Things were just blurred out!
Righteous Master
01-10-2008, 02:14 PM
For the price you can't go wrong with Rarescope films. The best part is that they have extras. How many 6 or 7 dollar films have extras?
Grady-San
01-11-2008, 03:19 AM
Can't wait for these! Glad they are still releasing stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/Rarescope-Double-Feature-Shaolin-Ninja/dp/B0011YZVOO/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1199997136&sr=8-13
http://www.amazon.com/Rarescope-BrigetteMeyer-Genie-Woods-Priestess/dp/B0011YZVOY/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1199997136&sr=8-14
http://www.amazon.com/Rarescope-Double-Feature-Chinese-Godfather/dp/B000YDBP8E/ref=pd_bbs_sr_9?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1199997136&sr=8-9
Morgoth
01-11-2008, 03:27 AM
AWESOME!! I have always wanted a wide version of Shaolin vs Ninja. I never heard of Amazons vs Supermen. Looks pretty weird.
Morgoth
01-15-2008, 10:35 AM
I just watched Shaolin vs Tai Chi and I liked it a lot. The 2-pack with Shaolin vs Ninja is going to be one of Rarescope's best releases yet.
I wonder what's special/diffrent about the Rarescope release of Shaolin vs Tai-Chi. VV already released it as 2.35:1 mandarin w/ hardcoded subs in decent quality. And a mighty fine movie it is indeed.
JustinB
01-17-2008, 05:11 AM
I'm just guessing, but I expect that the Rarescope release will be from the same source as the Vengeance release.
Showdown at the Cottonmill is my #1 pick
Same here, but I also enjoyed Along Comes a Tiger. Good stuff, I enjoyed the interesting symbolism at the end too, but I don't wanna reveal too much :D
but if you like a good wuxia check out Elimination Pursuit or Love and Sword. Good fights in both, but Love and Sword is overall a better movie. If you are looking for crazy kung fu check out Drunken Dragon
That movie was hilarious!
"Watch out Doggy!"
I also pretty hype for this! It feels like it's been on pre-order forever! Hope I'll see it at Best Buy or F.Y.E. instead though. It always feels good to see this hard to finds being released to the major public.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1839/chinesebi7.jpg
falkor
01-22-2008, 06:47 AM
It's all about this one, my friends! No teasing here... this is available in the shops right now! Go order a copy TODAY!! It will probably be the best thing you end up doing all week...
This is truly a MASTERPIECE! I don't say that too lightly...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDHSLj4ovXc
http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/forum/images/margin1.jpg
http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/forum/images/margin2.jpg
http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/forum/images/margin3.jpg
http://www.rarekungfumovies.com/forum/images/margin4.jpg
HKFlix doesn't seem to carry this. Do we have to order it from HMV or can we get it direct from rarescope? This looks brilliant!!!
Thanks
h
silver hermit
01-22-2008, 06:57 AM
its funny last year no one even remembered this flick. now its the best we can get, my how a year changes things on the rare scene.
HKFlix doesn't seem to carry this. Do we have to order it from HMV or can we get it direct from rarescope? This looks brilliant!!!
Thanks
h
Found it on amazon uk.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000W2224S/ref=dp_olp_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1200962752&sr=8-1
greenfan
01-22-2008, 09:58 AM
It's a decent flick...nothing amazing.
The last 20 minutes or so of action is very good though.
NoNiceTime
01-22-2008, 08:36 PM
Greenfan on my Rarescope Chinese Godfather/Duel Of Karate DVD there were trailers for Dream Sword and Return of the Deadly Blade(which looks sick by the way). What's the deal is Rarescope or your label releasing them? I remember the same thing happened with NIAC as well.
greenfan
01-22-2008, 08:50 PM
Draem Sword and Return of the Deadly Blade are to be released by us soon.
falkor
01-22-2008, 09:40 PM
Draem Sword and Return of the Deadly Blade are to be released by us soon.
I think those pair of films are way inferior to Warriors of the Water Margin, but then Sword Of Justice is in a league of it's own. To be fair, let's compare Dream Sword with Sword Of Justice; this is like comparing Shaolin Chasity Kung Fu with 7 Grand Masters. But what would determine how many copies get sold in the shops? It probably comes down to how appealing the title sounds. Nobody is going to know that Sword Of Justice is like 10 times better than Dream Sword. The market for kung fu films is just so damn unpredictably bad right now. Soulblade's best seller is.... ...no, not Snuff Bottle or Secret Rivals... ...Clementine! :D:D:D It's all because this film has Steven Seagal's name attached to it. Sword of Justice and Dream Sword have no big names that the mainstream would be familiar with, so which DVD would sell most copies? Your guess is as good as mine. However, for regular readers of this forum and to anyone who has done any research, you know what the best is... ...but then you would probably purchase both anyhow. Overall, any company would end up losing money, so the next question comes down to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHXyJd1d6E
rarekung2004 (7 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam -2 Reply | Remove | Block User | Spam This is in a league of it's own.
Some rares should be left alone. This should not be released onto the comercial market.
It would only end up on the shelves in HMV for a fiver.
orangminyak123 (15 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 Reply | Remove | Block User | Spam Nonsense! What a horribly elitist bullshit comment. Why shouldn't all the genre's finests be readily available for all? Unless you want to be a posing wanker trying to show off - "look what I've got, you can't have it" etc. The sooner rares become readily available the better. Kung needs exposure, and to be out there to be understood and enjoyed, not hidden away so people can boast what they have. You seem to have forgotten these films were made for audiences.
I have a dumb question for greenfan:
Are the subs on your current & future release burnt, or do they ever run off screen? I'll volunteer to type out, re-time & add new subs to your dvd's, if they are cut off or hard to read. It would be a nice perk/addition if when the subs are white on white or cutoff if they could appear on the black bar below the picture. It wouldn't be at all complicated to do this.
I agree with Falkor. You know, I figure rarescope would have been better suited to sell their dvds off their own website for 30 bucks a pop than sell them for 8.99 in stores because the general pulic at large probably doesn't care who Roc Tien is & never will.
I think those pair of films are way inferior to Warriors of the Water Margin, but then Sword Of Justice is in a league of it's own. To be fair, let's compare Dream Sword with Sword Of Justice; this is like comparing 7 Grand Masters with Shaolin Chasity Kung Fu. But what would determine how many copies get sold in the shops? It probably comes down to how appealing the title sounds. Nobody is going to know that Sword Of Justice is like 10 times better than Dream Sword. The market for kung fu films is just so damn unpredictably bad right now. Soulblade's best seller is.... ...no, not Snuff Bottle or Secret Rivals... ...Clementine! :D:D:D It's all because this film has Steven Seagal's name attached to it. Sword of Justice and Dream Sword have no big names that the mainstream would be familiar with, so which DVD would sell most copies? Your guess is as good as mine. However, for regular readers of this forum and to anyone who has done any research, you know what the best is... ...but then you would probably purchase both anyhow. Overall, any company would end up losing money, so the next question comes down to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHXyJd1d6E
The Amazing Psycho Per
01-23-2008, 01:59 AM
I'd like to tone done the hype about Warriors of the Water Margin...
First, the Rarescope DVD: The picture quality is very bad... It looks like a bad transfer from a bad VCD. The image is very pixelized (is that a word?, and when it's daytime it's to bright, when it's nighttime it's too dark. The brightness problem is not a detracting factor, as opposed to the darkness problem who really is one. Two of the main battles during the film happen during nightime and you can't see what the hell is going on...
As for the movie itself, well... First it's pretty cheap, almost like a television series. It wouldn't be a problem if the fighting was up to the task, witch it is and it is not. It is generally a bit uneven. The group battles for exemple are a bit subpar. There are however some good looking fights, but it's really the final battle that makes the movie... If you've seen it on youtube, well you've seen the best this movie has to offer. It's a shame, because if the two fight scenes I mentioned that were too dark looked promising, but since you cannot see them it really takes alot from the film...
On final thoughts, mainly because of the DVD quality, it's one that should be approached with caution, since the best 10 minutes of the movie are easily available on youtube. Maybe a better quality DVD would do justice to this movie but in the meanwhile, that's all that is available.
greenfan
01-23-2008, 04:54 AM
I have a dumb question for greenfan:
Are the subs on your current & future release burnt, or do they ever run off screen? I'll volunteer to type out, re-time & add new subs to your dvd's, if they are cut off or hard to read. It would be a nice perk/addition if when the subs are white on white or cutoff if they could appear on the black bar below the picture. It wouldn't be at all complicated to do this.
The subs in Ninja in Ancient China are burnt in.
The subs for Dream Sword and Return of the Deadly Blade are removable. Currently we are working on the subs for ...Deadly Blade, they will be excellent.
greenfan
01-23-2008, 04:57 AM
I think those pair of films are way inferior to Warriors of the Water Margin, but then Sword Of Justice is in a league of it's own. To be fair, let's compare Dream Sword with Sword Of Justice; this is like comparing Shaolin Chasity Kung Fu with 7 Grand Masters. But what would determine how many copies get sold in the shops? It probably comes down to how appealing the title sounds. Nobody is going to know that Sword Of Justice is like 10 times better than Dream Sword. The market for kung fu films is just so damn unpredictably bad right now. Soulblade's best seller is.... ...no, not Snuff Bottle or Secret Rivals... ...Clementine! :D:D:D It's all because this film has Steven Seagal's name attached to it. Sword of Justice and Dream Sword have no big names that the mainstream would be familiar with, so which DVD would sell most copies? Your guess is as good as mine. However, for regular readers of this forum and to anyone who has done any research, you know what the best is... ...but then you would probably purchase both anyhow. Overall, any company would end up losing money, so the next question comes down to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHXyJd1d6E
I know what you're saying, Falkor.
Without a really popular theme or some big names, Sowrd of Justice would probably be a hard sell. If I thought there was a decent sized audience for Sword of Justice (and T was willing to do some business) then I would be interested in giving it a go.
I have a dumb question for greenfan:
Are the subs on your current & future release burnt, or do they ever run off screen? I'll volunteer to type out, re-time & add new subs to your dvd's, if they are cut off or hard to read. It would be a nice perk/addition if when the subs are white on white or cutoff if they could appear on the black bar below the picture. It wouldn't be at all complicated to do this.
I would chose softsubs any day over subs in the letterbox. And this fore more than one reason. The most obvious one would be that if the subs were hardcoded into the letterbox, the subs would disappear off screen on widescreen displays when zoomed to somewhat fit the aspect ratio and also it would force a non-anamorphic approach on the dvd.
Some Rarescope's with this 'feature' (Exciting Dragon and Dream Sword comes to mind) makes me cry since not only could they have used soft subs instead, but also chose to position the subs in such a way that they also partly interfer with the picture whenever there's 2 lines of subs.
Basically what i'm trying to say here is that positioning the subs in the letterbox, be it softsubs or not, is in my opinion not a good idea.
I'm glad that Greenfan won't use the same approach, so i will gladly buy a copy of Dream Sword from Greenfan to upgrade from my Rarescope one :).
I think the subs should be removable. All of these things are as simple as dirt to add. Subs shouldn't be forced. I'd like the option, though, considering how simple this is to do. I'm really amazed at the lack of sub options on dvd's. Whwnever I do custom dvd's, I always make them removable, make custom buttons for subs on my menus & will make mulitple subtitle streams, with different colors, placement options & fonts to pick from. I'll never complain about a feature that you can turn off with a matter of a clik. If I can do this with freeware, I'm sure the manufactures can too.
I agree fully on the removable part (which by the way i mean by softsubs if that wasn't clear enough :)). Removable subtitles are always to prefer.
Winfred
02-03-2008, 08:54 PM
I am about to start my collection of Rarescopes now that the IVLs are over. Since I can play all regions, may I ask if the quality of the Rarescopes are similar in quality for both Region 1 & 2?
I find them to be the same, except for price!! The region 1 DVD's are some of the best bargins you'll ever find. I think they're essential. There isn't one I've seen that I haven't enjoyed. There are a couple that haven't yet seen a region 1 release, like "Old Dirty Kung Fu", so region 2 is your only option for now.
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
02-04-2008, 01:57 AM
Their releases aren't always the best picks of the crop, but as Haz has said the price for the films worth picking up are simply amazing, I don't know how Toby even makes an even return, if he does. Thank you Toby. You rule brother!
Along Comes The Tiger
Showdown At The Cotton Mill
Dream Sword/A Sword Named Vengeance
These three films, especially the first two listed, are absolutely must haves, Winfred.
chen lung
02-04-2008, 08:33 AM
Both regions have movies not released in the other, whilst Region 1 sometimes include an additional extra :).
fabhui
02-06-2008, 04:16 AM
I've bought the last few titles Rarescope has released in the US and was wondering if there is any reason why the original language tracks are not included.
Here in the UK all of the titles Rarescope released had the original language audio track, subtitles (Remastered in some cases) and where available the English dub track would be included too.
So I'm wondering why no original language track? Is it because the elements don't exist (doubtful as Greenfan is soon to prove), is it a rights issue or is it because they think the fans aren't bothered??
Grady-San
02-06-2008, 05:03 AM
I have the following rarescopes (US and UK) and am curious what differances exist. All that I can see so far is that the Chinese Godfather (UK) has mandarin and english, and the US only has English.(Granted I am missing some UK titles) If I am incorrect on some of this, please correct me :)
Along Comes the Tiger (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Original Mandarin Version)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Mandarin Rarescope Remix)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Original English Version)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - English Rarescope Remix)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Audio Commentary)
Chinese Godfather / Duel of Karate (US)
Chinese Hercules (Chinese Godfather) (UK)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Choi Lee Fut Kung Fu (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Drunken Dragon (US)
• Cantonese (Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo)
Elimination Pursuit (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Elimination Pursuit (UK)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Face Behind the Mask
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Kings of Fists and Dollars (US)
• English
Lost Sword Ship (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo)
• English
Love and Sword (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
• English (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Master with Cracked Fingers (Showdown at the Cotton Mill) (UK)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo - Dual Mono)
Ninjas and Dragons (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 - Stereo)
Showdown at the Cotton Mill (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 – Stereo – Dual Mono)
Sword Named Revenge
• English
Dream Sword (US)
• Mandarin (Dolby Digital 2.0 – Stereo – Dual Mono)
The R1 Sword Named Revenge was in english, although I have a Mandarin copy. I don't think there is a single rarescope DVD that is missing a language track from region to region.
JustinB
02-06-2008, 06:03 AM
The US release of Lost Swordship was missing the English dub. BCI sent replacement discs out to those who requested it.
Grady-San
02-06-2008, 09:55 AM
Ahh your right HAZ, I forgot about Sword Named Revenge was in English. I assumed since Dream Sword was in Mandarin then so was the other movie in the double feature. :)
And also thanks Justin, again I forgot about the early versions of Lost Swordship had a missing English track. My replacement was tucked away (they shipped them in those thin dvd cases).
Has anyone else finally gotten the two new awesome RARESCOPE releases.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6978/09901fw9.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3295/b3dcyx4.jpg
Morgoth
02-08-2008, 09:31 AM
I haven't gotten them yet because I have heard they are not so awesome. dream sword is good. I am glad I got that movie.
The Dragon
02-08-2008, 11:19 AM
What's the low down on Duel Of Karate? Anyone know if this is any good at all? It looks as if it's a basher, made by the same people who put out Cub Tiger From Kwangtung.
:rolleyes:
Morgoth
02-08-2008, 11:44 AM
I haven't heard anybodies opinions on Duel either. I've read a few things (one thing from you Dragon) about King of Fists and Dollars and Chinese godfather, but nothing on Duel of Karate.
Winfred
02-08-2008, 07:10 PM
Isn't that Chen Hung-lieh's image next to Tien Peng's name on the Duel Of Karate DVD cover?
NoNiceTime
02-08-2008, 07:51 PM
Duel of Karate is one of the worst KF movies I've ever seen. Every aspect of this film is really bad. Fights are a joke, acting isnt that good and the wirework/trampoline stunts are laughable.
Duel of Karate is one of the worst KF movies I've ever seen. Every aspect of this film is really bad. Fights are a joke, acting isnt that good and the wirework/trampoline stunts are laughable.
:o
Winfred
02-13-2008, 02:53 PM
The Elimination Pursuit DVD arrived from London today factory sealed BUT without a slipcase. I bet the Region 1 DVD has one.
The Elimination Pursuit DVD arrived from London today factory sealed BUT without a slipcase. I bet the Region 1 DVD has one.
It does.
How about a sticky that compares the differences between R1 and R2 Rarescope's? :)
These are my Rarescope's:
R2 PAL
Showdown ath the Cotton Mill (RS0101)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
Stills Gallery
Chi Kuan-Chun interview
Chi Kuan-Chun "Five Animal Style" demo
Ching Kuo-Chung interview
Tan Tao-Liang exhibition
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: No
Face Behind the Mask (RS0118)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
Stills & poster gallery
Original movie trailer
Photo tribute to Lo Lieh
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: No
Choi Lee Fut Kung Fu (RS0134)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in); English dub
Extras:
Stills gallery
Cliff Lok interview and demo
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: No
The Lost Swordship (RS0108)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in); English dub
Extras:
Stills gallery
Robert Tai's views on swordplay
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: No
Drunken Master Slippery Snake (RS0171)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Selectable); English dub
Extras:
Cliff Lok interview
Deleted scene
Stills & poster gallery
Lee Hoi-san Wing Chun demo
Slipcase: No
R1 NTSC:
Duel at the Supreme Gate (46775-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
Rarescope promo
Original trailer
Slipcase: No
A Sword Named Revenge/The Dream Sword (47986-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
Bonus fight scenes
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: No
Ninjas and Dragons (46776-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
Original movie trailer
Yukio Someno interview
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: Yes
Drunken Dragon (46780-9)
Language: Cantonese with English subtitles (Burnt in); English Dub (Separate print)
Extras:
William Yen demo
Philip Ko interview
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: Yes
The Elimination Pursuit (46778-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
Three bonus fights
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: Yes
Love and Sword (46782-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in); English dub
Extras:
Wu Tang Mountain documentary on the sacred mountain
Rarescope promo
Slipcase: No
Along Comes the Tiger (46777-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in); English dub; Remixes
Extras:
Audio commentary by Wang Tao and Toby Russell
Robert Tai interview
Original movie trailer
Stills gallery
Slipcase: Yes
The Cub Tiger from Kwang Tung (47549-9)
Language: Mandarin with Chinese & English subtitles (Burnt in)
Extras:
An audience with Jackie Chan
Stills gallery
Rarescope promo
Trailers
Slipcase: No
The Elimination Pursuit DVD arrived from London today factory sealed BUT without a slipcase. I bet the Region 1 DVD has one.
I think it depends on what pressing or what store you're buying from. I've seen many a rarescope for sale without slip case & sealed, but other vendors have the same disc with a slip case. Then there's the white DVD boxes & the black ones.
I think it depends on what pressing or what store you're buying from. I've seen many a rarescope for sale without slip case & sealed, but other vendors have the same disc with a slip case. Then there's the white DVD boxes & the black ones.
I thought the white/black boxes was a regional thing. Maybe it isn't so.
Winfred
02-13-2008, 07:22 PM
My copy was bought from Amazon.com.uk which gave me a 50% discount off the list price. It is the only Rarescope on sale so I guess this title is not selling.
The first 4/5 releases I bought came with slipcases, after that, nothing. My first black case was "Drunken Dragon". I don't think that came with a slipcase. And I've seen Love & Sword with a slipcase.
I don't think there's a connection between box color and slipcases. I have releases with slipcases and both black and white boxes. (we are referring to the actual case her and not the slip right? :))
Winfred
02-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Previewed a few scenes of The Elimination Pursuit DVD.
The appalling picture quality is a SHOCK to the system after the remastered Celestials but it is good to be able to view this rare movie. I have pre-ordered Amazons vs Supermen. We must support Rarescope.
Killer Meteor
02-15-2008, 10:53 PM
I actually had less of a problem with ELimination than Along Came A Tiger. I can take old, worn, purple prints but not excessive DVNR and edge enhancement like what was on ACAT
froffeecoffee
02-22-2008, 10:52 AM
Came across this Rarescope release of The Cavalier at my local used DVD store. Was wondering if it would be a good purchase. Is the movie any good? What is the quality of this version. Many thanks for any helpful replies. :)
Morgoth
02-22-2008, 10:56 AM
Decent at best. Nice to see Shaking Eagle in a lead role, but the kung isn't that great. Doris Lung gets to show off a bit at the beginning, but the only other good fight I remember is with Choi Wang.
venoms5
02-22-2008, 11:07 AM
Is this the Joseph Kuo one with Lo Lieh where he bites a guys finger off then spits it at him and it impales his throat?:D And an old man and his daughter chase the hero around the whole movie to marry her after besting her in a contest?
Morgoth
02-22-2008, 01:41 PM
Yeah that's the plot. The old guy tries to get Sze Ma Lung to marry is daughter. It gets old fast. I don't remember that biting the finger off part but I will take your word for it since I don't feel like watching the movie again. :p
fabhui
02-22-2008, 05:29 PM
Didn't even know Rarescope had put this out on DVD. Anyone got a link to it please?
venoms5
02-23-2008, 04:11 AM
Yeah, this was on Unicorn Video I think and Lo Lieh shows up halfway through as a white haired villain. He does that emotional kung fu thing at the end. I think he fights a lot of people all at once too.
The finger biting shot had some chinese song playing over the soundtrack. I remember a little boy held captive being stabbed with spears and one of the guys goes crazy and lunges his fingers at Lo Lieh who bites it off then spits it at him and it punctures his throat. What's funny is he spits the finger out rather lazily and it looks like it falls to the ground. I remember liking it pretty good. I also remember a restaurant fight where one guy gets pinned against the second floor and starts pissing wildly all over the place.
Grady-San
02-23-2008, 07:34 AM
Rarescope released this!?? How did this slip under my radar,yes please post a link. Or hell even a screenshot of the cover. I am curious is all.
kungfusamurai
02-23-2008, 07:37 AM
Didn't Mei Ah or some other HK company put this out on DVD? I think it might have been widescreen, but the image suffered from some artifacting (ghosting?).
How's the quality on the rarescope release?
KFS
venoms5
02-23-2008, 07:40 AM
Here it is here under the title THE SMART CAVALIER. Didn't know this got a DVD release....
http://www.fivestarlaser.com/shop/movies/4875.html
venoms5
02-23-2008, 07:42 AM
dddhouse doesn't seem to have it.
venoms5
02-23-2008, 07:43 AM
This is probably the one with problems...
http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.530011/qx/details.htm
Morgoth
02-23-2008, 10:47 AM
I didn't have any problems with the GZ version, but I can't say the pic quality is anything to get excited about.
dddhouse doesn't seem to have it.
That's from where i ordered mine anyway. Maybe it's OOP now?
*EDIT* Found it. http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=1837
This is probably the one with problems...
http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.530011/qx/details.htm
Nope (or well, i haven't seen that version so i wouldnt know if that one also have problems). It's the Mei-Ah release that suffers from ghosting etc. which is kinda odd since usually besides some slight interlacing and somewhat bleak/blue tainted picture, the movies in this Mei-Ah series are pretty good qualitywise.
Is it just me, or are Rarescope rerelasing more not-so-rare movies now? Like movies (of same source) that are already released on dvd in other regions. Great for people with region locked players (altho i'm a bit surprised those exist nowadays :)) but it kinda taints the label name a bit by them releasing these don't you agree? If above statement about not-so-rare would be true that is.
I don't have all the insights but to my understanding Toby R isn't running Rarescope anymore? Is it all BCI nowadays? Don't they have the Brentwood label as well or am i mixing things up. In that case i guess i think it'd been better for them to use that label instead for these to keep the true rare's within Rarescope. Or maybe i'm just blabbering. :)
ShaKwon
02-23-2008, 01:48 PM
Has anyone seen the this movie. It will be available for purchase on Amazon 4 March 08. It's available for pre-order now. Price, $9.98.
ShaKwon
venoms5
02-23-2008, 03:10 PM
Thanks DMG, dddhouse has the title spelled wrong. That's why I couldn't find it.
Brentwood and BCI are one and the same. All of BCI's discs (the ones with excellent pic quality anyway) are just ports of discs other people remastered. Their HE-MAN discs are from the Brit discs, the Naschy movies from the Spanish Tri Pictures releases, etc...They added subs and in some cases, added some extras but the remastering for those was already done. I won't even begin to go into that ULTRAMAN fiasco they were involved in.
fabhui
02-24-2008, 11:18 PM
Ok..so I'm guessing that Rarescope haven't released this at all then. I didn't think they had as I couldn't find any info anywhere online about a Rarescope release of the movie.
froffeecoffee
02-24-2008, 11:36 PM
Yeah, there's apparently a Rarescope release since I was looking at it and wanting information about the quality. Does anyone know anything about the quality of this particular release? Looks like it somehow got past everyone. I can't find it anywhere online either.
Anyone with the new flicks?
The Dragon
03-11-2008, 04:42 PM
Duel of Karate is one of the worst KF movies I've ever seen. Every aspect of this film is really bad. Fights are a joke, acting isnt that good and the wirework/trampoline stunts are laughable.
I'd betterget my copy right away!Lol.
:D
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-11-2008, 05:02 PM
How is the rarescope version of Cliff Lok's CHOI LAY FAT KUNG FU (or how ever the crap you spell it... choy lee fut... choi li fut...)
fabhui
03-11-2008, 06:47 PM
How is the rarescope version of Cliff Lok's CHOI LAY FAT KUNG FU (or how ever the crap you spell it... choy lee fut... choi li fut...)
Best version currently available be it legit or otherwise!
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-11-2008, 07:22 PM
Cool, i'll probably pick it up!
How about the movie itself?
fabhui
03-11-2008, 07:52 PM
In my opinion it's one of Cliff Lok's best and for the price Rarescope are putting it out at I'd say it's well worth adding to your collection!
GOLDEN DRAGON YIN-YANG
03-14-2008, 01:11 PM
For the second time in a purchase from Raresope I discovered the SOUND was off by a fraction of a second. Thus ruining the movie for me. I am really surprised that no on else noticed this. It was also in the Cotton Mill DVD. When this happens a movie becomes unbearable for me to watch. I had seen Dream Sword on VHS years ago. No problem then. My view if this flaw exist in your product don't put it on the Market.
I am appreciative of Raraescope's efforts but to me this is unacceptable.
GDY-Y
Morgoth
03-14-2008, 06:24 PM
If it's off by a fraction of a second, then I don't really care. My Fortune Star version of Eastern Condors sounds like it's off just a fraction, but I can't say it affected the movie for me. Now the English dub on Rarescope's LOve and Sword, that's a problem.
fabhui
03-14-2008, 07:44 PM
Looks like the upcoming release here in the UK by Greenfan is going to be the way to go then!:D
thundered mantis
03-15-2008, 08:06 AM
I have noticed Rarescope has released Dance of Death. Anyone has seen it and can say that the video qual is better than old Crash version? Crash was said to be quite good, and lbx. also (Rarescope version doesn´t mention aspect ratio)
chen lung
03-15-2008, 12:49 PM
Linn said that the Crash DVD got the reels in the wrong order.
No wonder I wasn't too keen on the film!
Rarescope might correct this and add the English dub?
ironfistedmonk
03-15-2008, 02:28 PM
I've not seen the Crash release but the Rarescope is a decent print and it has the dub
thundered mantis
03-15-2008, 03:23 PM
thank you guys
ironfistedmonk, I assume the Rarescope to be wide?
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-15-2008, 03:53 PM
On a totally unrelated note..... am I the only one who thinks Don Wong Tao sounds EXACTLY like Al Pacino on the AC for Along comes the tiger???
I was just waiting for him to say HUUUUAAAAHH...!! or SAY HRRELLO TO MY LITLLE FRIEND...!!
ironfistedmonk
03-15-2008, 04:22 PM
thank you guys
ironfistedmonk, I assume the Rarescope to be wide?
Yes it's wide mate
thundered mantis
03-16-2008, 12:14 PM
thanks mate I´ve pulled the trigger on that one, always wanted to see that classic
Tantheman
03-16-2008, 01:29 PM
How is Dance of Death? This is the Angela Mao starrer we are talking about here yeah? Is it up there with Broken Oath and Hapkido?
ironfistedmonk
03-16-2008, 02:28 PM
It's not as good as Broken Oath or Hapkido IMO, those 2 are more serious movies whereas DoD is a KF comedy but it does have Chia Kai as a white hair fox doing horse style, that guy is always impressive
Morgoth
03-17-2008, 12:40 AM
Yeah Chia Kai is always good. The final fight in Dance of Death is like 20 minutes long. I started to think it was never gonna end.
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