Heroes Two (1974)

[june]

Hello All,

Is this a pre-quel to Men from the Monestery? Also am I missing anything from this series?

Men / Monestery
Executions from Shaolin
Clan / White Lotus

Where does Shaolin Avengers come in?

[18JadeArafats]

I don't think they're a strict, continuous series. Just a bunch of different stories concerning the same characters. 5 Shaolin Masters and Heroes Two, for example, overlap in their time frame, but not in their plot much.
I personally like Heroes Two quite a bit. Really well done, plot driven movie. The action direction is an early example of the stuff Lau Kar Leung would do when he has more stunt people and creative freedom. It's a bit slow compared to later LKL stuff, but still plenty intricate.

[Iron Boat]

None of the shaolin series are really sequals or prequals for that matter, just overlapping stories from the same material. The closest any come to being a true sequel is (Shaolin Temple) Death Chambers and 5 Shaolin Masters.

[CLFNole]

The only problem with 5 Shaolin Masters being a sequal to Shaolin Temple is that Ma Fu Yee dies in both films. :eek But then again he did deserve it.

[Shaolin Patriot]

I like to think of them as the Shaolin Patriot series, involving any combination of legendary heroes Hung Hsi-Kuan (Chen Kuan Tai), Fang Shih-Yu (Fu Sheng) or Hu Hei Chien (Chi Kuan Chun).

- Men From the Monastery
- Shaolin Martial Arts
- Heroes Two
- Five Shaolin Masters
- Shaolin Temple
- Shaolin Avengers
- Showdown At the Cotton Mill (not a CC/SB film)

[hkpyanfar]

I've seen most of these, but never connected them. I think I just forget the names from movie to movie. I'll need to see these close together maybe....

thankx!!!

[Chinatown Kid]

Seems like Executioners of Shaolin could be sort of a sequel to Shaolin Temple as well. ST ends with the burning of the temple and Executioners begins with it.

[Karlos]

I think the closest to a full on "sequel" is probably 5 Shaolin Masters, which also leads straight on from ST's feiry finale.

Personally, I love Heroes 2 - perhaps because it was the first ever SB I saw!

It also has, for my money, THE greatest theme tune ever and, in Fu Sheng's intro, THE greatest first appearance of any SB actor!!! :D

[Lei Kung]

I loved Heroes Two. Clever title, I would have thought it was a sequel or something. The scene of a man (can't recall which it was now) creeping along a wall leaving a smear of blood was cool and I always wondered if the similar scene in Desperado was borrowed, perhaps a Tarantino 'tribute/influence'. The freeze frame redout as each of the four Tibetians were killed was another nice effect (haven't seen this elsewhere).

[Linn1]

I thought I'd post an update dealing with the new releases. I got a disc from MB today with the English dubbed Heroes Two to check for quality. The film looks great and the English dub is remastered using the original elements. If you like the dubs, you'll love this disc. This will be from the HD masters, so it won't have any of the problems the Image discs have had with NTSC to PAL transfers and will actually be a step or two up from the old IVL disc. It will have the original mono soundtrack as well. I'm still looking for extras for this release until Jan, so anyone that has something related to the film, please drop me a PM.

[TheManInWhite]

Hey Linn! Great news for the new year? Now will the disc have the same demos from Fu Shang, Chen Kuan Tai and Chi Kuan Chun that's on the old VHS copies as extras?

[venom10463]

This is great news Linn. Will the quality be just as good as Dragon Dynasty 4 previous shaw dvds and will Media Blasters use the same eng subs translation Celestial is using? Looks like us kung fu fans will have a great 2008:D:p

[HAZ]

I hope they'll commision new subs. That would be amazing.

[The Dragon]

Maybe MB will be bold enough to pick up To Kill A Mastermind? :rolleyes:

[Linn1]

Hey Linn! Great news for the new year? Now will the disc have the same demos from Fu Shang, Chen Kuan Tai and Chi Kuan Chun that's on the old VHS copies as extras?

the demo will be there and the plan is to give the viewer the option of watching them in front of the feature as they should be. :)

This is great news Linn. Will the quality be just as good as Dragon Dynasty 4 previous shaw dvds and will Media Blasters use the same eng subs translation Celestial is using?

The quality will be just as good, as DD were working from the HD masters too. As for subs, I don't know yet.

[gorhama]

This is great news!! I've been excited ever since I heard MB would be releasing Shaw Brothers titles. The more quality releases the better!!

[chen lung]

One thing that did occur to be:

I was told Wild Side (in France) wasn't happy with Celestial's restoration and ordered it redone. This time, there was more picture info and anamorphic, but it was frame-cut.

Think Momentum Asia got a version where it has most picture info and no frame-cuts, but non-anamorphic.

James Lee could elaborate on this? Really confusing!

[Righteous Master]

This is sweet! I can't wait for this baby to hit the street. Not my favorite MA flick, but a must have in any decent MA collection.

[The Running Man]

Linn, can you please check about the subs.

I as well as others have voiced the sub issue since day one of the announcement of these releases, and I must say it's a bit disappointing that it's a mystery as to what is happening with them.

It almost sounds as if no one really said anything about it to anyone that can do something about it. I sure hope that's not the case.

Media Blasters retranslates all subs for their Japanese films and there should be no reason they can't do it for these releases.

I can give a damn about those atrociously horrible and insulting English dubs of the Shaw Brother films. It's the quality on the subs for the Media Blasters releases I care about most.

[Sandpalm79]

Hey Linn I just wanted to say thankyou for putting this all together.. from the media blasters to sharing your knowledge on this forum. Like everyone, Shaws were a major part of my childhood..these heroes were my cowboys and indians when I was little. these movies taught me about heroism and so much more. I seriously went a decade without meeting a single person that knew about shaw brothers. I made the error of taping the shows off samurai Sunday and only using 1 tape. so i would tape over the previous movie every week. So until i saw in a black belt magazine an advantage video ad with Shaw brothers movies in them, i seriously thought i would never see Crippled avengers and masked avengers again.

So thanks to everyone on this forum for keeping this alive.. and Linn, putting all this effort to get these dubbed classics out is mind blowing. thank you

[Linn1]

just wanted to mention that MB hired a translator about six months ago to go over the subs for these releases. More or less, they are watching the films with the Celestial subs and fixing mistakes in the translations. And it's my pleasure to help these or any releases.

[The Running Man]

Ok, thanks for the confirmation. :) That sounds great.

I imagine that the translator is fluent in both Cantonese and Mandarin since some films the "original track" is either or and the Celestial subs are always based on the Mandarin regardless. That's another thing that I am hoping these releases correct.

[David Rees]

Will the original intro (hung fist) be the original version?...they messed about with it for the HK release.

[Linn1]

I imagine that the translator is fluent in both Cantonese and Mandarin since some films the "original track" is either or and the Celestial subs are always based on the Mandarin regardless. That's another thing that I am hoping these releases correct.

I just did an interview for a website which should pop up next week that will answer this question I think. Someone will post a link.

Will the original intro (hung fist) be the original version?...they messed about with it for the HK release.

Last I heard, prior to Christmas, was that we were going to do this: The newly put together intro from Celestial will be re-dubbed using the original soundtrack. The original intro, which Celestial doesn't have available for the DVD, will be on the disc as an extra. There will be an option to watch the film with or without the intro at the start, a first for any release in the world.

[The Running Man]

Thanks a lot Linn. :)

[chen lung]

just wanted to mention that MB hired a translator about six months ago to go over the subs for these releases. More or less, they are watching the films with the Celestial subs and fixing mistakes in the translations. And it's my pleasure to help these or any releases.
Great stuff Linn! Just hope they'll be properly positioned (not the previous crap that drags out over 5 subtitle pop-ups when it could be comprehended in 1 or 2) at a nice size.

A second track for the dub would be cool as well.

Last I heard, prior to Christmas, was that we were going to do this: The newly put together intro from Celestial will be re-dubbed using the original soundtrack. The original intro, which Celestial doesn't have available for the DVD, will be on the disc as an extra. There will be an option to watch the film with or without the intro at the start, a first for any release in the world.
If it's an NTSC VHS source, can MB make sure it's properly de-interlaced :)? Otherwise, it'll play havoc on certain displays. As much as I kind of resent it, I hope Celestial provide a properly transfer of the jazzed-up version.

Celestial had the original trailer (as evidenced by IVL DVD), but how it'll be handled also concerns me (improper transfer/unrestored). Will it be subtitled?

Infact, is your copy of the film progressive?

Enough technical crap for the moment :). This wasn't my favourite film (still like it though), but I think it was my 2nd Shaw film.

[mantis FIST]

I agree chen, not the best shaw film, but still some great moments. I always thought Men from the Monastery was better and I hope MB put it out, or at least DD. Cant wait to see this release!

Thanks LINN!

[The Dragon]

What else can we expect coming from this co. Linn? This info. sounds very exciting and to know we are still being short-changed is unsettling.
Hopefully we will soon see the light of day when our beloved titles are released with our deepest concerns addressed.:)

[bobo]

yo---just thought i,d mention HEROES TWO is now listed on amazon with release date of april 8/2008. no cover art as yet. gonna be a pricey day with HEROES OF THE EAST and COME DRINK WITH ME also coming out that day. but i love it.

[bobo]

yes---i know i spelled it wrong. H E R O E S. sorry about that chief.

[Grady-San]

OUCH!! 7 months or so till its released :( I was hoping for something sooner.

[venom10463]

OUCH!! 7 months or so till its released :( I was hoping for something sooner.
yo---just thought i,d mention HEROES TWO is now listed on amazon with release date of april 8/2008. no cover art as yet. gonna be a pricey day with HEROES OF THE EAST and COME DRINK WITH ME also coming out that day. but i love it.
The release date is not in Aug, Gray-San. Heroes two will be release on April 08 2008. I thought the same thing too, but I noticed April next to the 8. :D

[bobo]

clearer message---> release date is the 8th of APRIL. not the 8th month. duh

[Grady-San]

DOH! thank god :) I skimmed it to quick... (didn't notice the April part) Sorry guys.

[bobo]

in case anyone is interested the cover for HEROES TWO can now be seen at AMAZON.

[tai_shin_mun]

whoa:D..that`s terrific cover...One in IVL release is quite awful.

[magicpoe]

Yes. Nice cover.

Get it at deepdiscount for a decent price.

http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=33972700

Looking forward to this.

[Morgoth]

Looks great.

[DrunkenMantis13]

Seems like Media Blasters are giving a good look to the Shaws cover, it's catchy. About Heroes Two itself, it's also looking good.

[Sentswordsman]

This is so exciting!!

[HAZ]

Nice, but, in all honesty, there's no photoshoped cover that could look better than the OG movie poster. Even when the poster is ugly, it's still cool.

[Linn1]

Well, I'm glad you guys like the cover. As for not using the original poster art, it wasn't a choice really, so try not to blame the dvd companies too much for that. I'll be glad when this is all done as it's been a rough ride, but everything should be done soon and all the releases after should be a breeze. I'll be turning in my commentary in a few days and Mike Leeder completed an exclusive interview with Chen Kuan Tai a couple of days ago that I'm really looking forward to seeing. I think it will answer a lot of questions fans have had over the years. And that's in addition to all the other extras we've got set up. Big thanks to Tom, Terry, Brian, and others for their help! Next stop, more Chen Kuan Tai.

[Righteous Master]

I agree. That cover is sweet. Looks very professional unlike most of the other Media Blasters DVD covers I have seen. I like burning SB logo too. Little detail, but really cool.

[bruce the man]

looks like a nice copy of Heroes Two. this movie has been one of my favorite shaolin style movies from shaw brothers. with that much extra, i will place order for a copy although i've already had an ivl version of it. i would be great if they also include dubbed english track as well.

[The Dragon]

I'll wait and see first before I comment... Been fooled before, no more...:cool:

[Linn1]

it would be great if they also include dubbed english track as well.

here's the breakdown for this disc:

Audio:
1.Engish 5.1
2.English mono
3.Mandarin mono

Subtitles:
1.Slates aka translations for signs and onscreen text while watching the film dubbed.
2.Subtitles-retranslated.


I'll wait and see first before I comment... Been fooled before, no more...:cool:

as it should be, I completely agree. :)

[HAZ]

Try to get these on the shelves in Canada, especially Quebec. I'm still waiting for a local shops to get Dragon Dynasty's "Shanghai Express". :(

[Grady-San]

That sure is some damn cool cover art, my only gripe would be the "enhanced edition" at the bottom. I know that helps to sell dvd sometimes, but IMHO it makes the otherwise awesome cover art look cheap. Just my 2 cents is all :) You can bet I will be upgrading to this once it comes out.

[Righteous Master]

Can't wait for this one to come out. I hope that we have two companies (DD & MB)providing MA DVD's with great picture, sound and extras. Perhaps this will cause a little bit of competition between DD & MB. That would be good for all of us.

[DrunkenMantis13]

Try to get these on the shelves in Canada, especially Quebec. I'm still waiting for a local shops to get Dragon Dynasty's "Shanghai Express". :(
Word. Media Blasters titles do have fairly good exposure in here but shaws not much, even the image and DD ones...so hopefully being MB titles they'll show up!

[venom10463]

Wow, I can't wait until April. I just preordered my copy from deepdiscountdvd. April needs to hurry up and come. I'm already starting to show signs of going crazzzzzzzzy. :D

[bobo]

say LINN i was wondering if you could give us the tittle of MB second shaw release? thanks

[Linn1]

Not yet, but I'll post it here first.

[chen lung]

Thanks for the update everyone!

English 5.1 is a bit odd. As much as they're detested, Why not for the Mandarin too?

The IVL artwork is actually the closest to the original poster and ironically, it's "horrible":p. I actually like both covers (the original poster carries the fierceness of the two leading warriors in the Anti-Qing movement, whilst Media Blaster's shows the Kung Fu element of it).

Cover art looks pretty cool! The theme itself is excellent (the 'Burning Shaolin Temple' SB logo). However (a post by Chen Lung wouldn't be complete without this), Fu Sheng is rather 'in the background' - both he and Chen carry the film equally (bit difficult to distinguish Chen's hand with Fu Sheng's clothes - they're in the way somehow:confused:). Agreed about the 'Walt Disney's Enhanced Edition' tag:cool:. The capture of Chen isn't my favourite, even though the pose is fine.

Anyway, nit-picking over - will definitely be getting it anyway :D! Well done Linn (and Mike+) on the other contents! But... must it be April :(?! If it allows more time for better or more content, then by all means. I'm sure what you've currently got can't be matched anyway.

[Killer Meteor]

Regarding original poster artwork, I'm in two minds about that. Some are indeed lovely - Dragon Swamp is on my wall in a frame - but some are every bit as dreadful as the worst of Photoshop - Two Champions Of Shaolin is a grusome collage of cut out stills

The French artwork for the DVDs is pretty damn good

[The Dragon]

It's no wonder these films never get the proper treatment... You guys pussyfoot, and nitpick over everything, Damn!... The poster art isn't to your liking, more/less special features/interviews, original trailers/no original trailers; the audio in 5.1 isn't your thing, give us mono, Cantonese/Mandarin, either/both you do/don't want! Listening to all this makes the companies feel like it's really not that important.
:confused:

[Killer Meteor]

Nah, the reason we get such poor DVDs is frequently the companies don't care

[tai_shin_mun]

It's no wonder these films never get the proper treatment... You guys pussyfoot, and nitpick over everything, Damn!... The poster art isn't to your liking, more/less special features/interviews, original trailers/no original trailers; the audio in 5.1 isn't your thing, give us mono, Cantonese/Mandarin, either/both you do/don't want! Listening to all this makes the companies feel like it's really not that important.
:confused:
I rarely watch special features except sometimes trailers and some chang cheh documentary.rarely interviews.movie in uncut widescreen version makes me happy.essence of release.However I too am going to upgrade my ivl into this because of extra hung kuen footage and english dub.

[The Running Man]

The countdown to this release begins.

Can't wait. :D

As for the cover, I think it's okay but it seems a bit too much in the vain of how Brian White does his covers.

I'd prefer something a bit different in style.

[Linn1]

Having already seen the video portion of this release, it blows away the HK disc. It's at least two times as clear as that release. It's like taking a gauze off the screen you didn't know it had.

[Grady-San]

That is great news! Finally someone did a Shaw release justice.

[The Dragon]

Having already seen the video portion of this release, it blows away the HK disc. It's at least two times as clear as that release. It's like taking a gauze off the screen you didn't know it had.

'In kung fu film type dialogue':

"Hmmm... are you saying that it's better than IVL, then?... So, you think we should purchase it, then?"
:p

[Linn1]

I'm not saying "buy this" again after the Image releases. But I've actually worked on these at nearly every level from extras, to cover art, etc. That means I feel I can comment a bit more on what fans will see with these.

[Winfred]

Linn

Why is there so much difference in the picture quality?

What did IVL do wrong?

[Killer Meteor]

IVL's was non-anamorphic and PAL-NTSC, so you get ghosting and blurring through the conversion. Not very acceptable for a DVD of a remastered print

[venomchamber]

hmmm...
the only thing that I would add to the cover is "AUTHORIZED EDITION" as many potential buyers may confuse it with all of those unauthorized (read: bootleg) copies in circulation everywhere and stick with the $10 cheapies over the $15 to $19 pricepoints this will most likely receive.

[Linn1]

Why is there so much difference in the picture quality?

What did IVL do wrong?

KM really answered this, the IVL releases were taken from PAL masters and incorrectly transfered to NTSC. This makes a difference of night and day to seeing a correct master, which is what Media Blasters has, and then some, using a High Def remaster.

[SlothStyleKungFu]

I'm a traditionalist when it comes to artwork, so I just look at new designs and as long as it isnt annoying I never think twice about it. That said, it looks okay.

Cant wait to see the disc.

[mantis FIST]

Great stuff here, linn! I really can't wait to get this movie. I have the deltamac, but for sure will be tossing it away!, or somthin!

Extras sound nice too, and its a plus to have the ENg dub!

[gorhama]

This cover arts look nice!! I'm glad to hear that MB did the transfer correctly....nothing better than a great print on Region 1 DVD!!

[The Dragon]

Heroes Two is one of the best duo-team up films in Kung Fu Film history. Karlos is right when he speaks of that intro for Fu Sheng's Fang Siu Yi. Surprising he and Chen Kuai Tai didn't team up for more efforts with those characters seeing they stamped their names on them for all time. Great Film.
:cool:

[chen lung]

I think the closest to a full on "sequel" is probably 5 Shaolin Masters, which also leads straight on from ST's feiry finale.:D
I think one character who died in 'Shaolin Temple' lives on in 'Five Shaolin Masters'?

[The Dragon]

Funny thing about Shaolin Temple & 5 Shaolin Masters Chen Lung, is the main characters, though played by mostly the same cast, with the exception of Meng Fei in 5SM are not the same people in the two films. However, 5SM does have the feel of being a sequel.
:)

[Linn1]

I got a chance to check out the interview they did with Chen Kuan Tai, and I don't want to say much, but I think everyone is really going to enjoy it.

[chen lung]

Cheers Linn!

I like the scene at the end when Fang and Hong take on Che Kang simultaneously :P. I've always liked the film, even if the choreography is a bit sloppy.

Yeah, 5SM has felt like a sequel to me as well, even though it's not :).

[Killer Meteor]

Men From The Monastery is far closer to Heroes Two. They even share sequences - the Wooden Men and Pole fights

[Bruce Lee]

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.545350/qx/details.htm also saw 3 evil masters up for pre-order. btw tokyo shock is a usa based distributer

http://pHosted.com/0802/tsdvd0810_01.jpg

[The Dragon]

... I love the soundtrack to this old school Shaw classic. Can't wait to see this version.:)

[gravedigger666]

Does this include full approx.9 mins sequence where Chen Kuan Tai,Fu Sheng&Chi Kuan Chun display Hung fist with english commentary?

[Big Chan]

Does this include full approx.9 mins sequence where Chen Kuan Tai,Fu Sheng&Chi Kuan Chun display Hung fist with english commentary?

It better have this! I have this on my Dutch Warner Brothers VHS original of "Heroes Two." Good stuff.

[venom10463]

Preorder it at deepdiscountdvd for 12.30 plus free shipping. http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=33972700

[gravedigger666]

It better have this! I have this on my Dutch Warner Brothers VHS original of "Heroes Two." Good stuff.
Is your original rental tape?Warner did not release all their stuff on sell-thru tapes and it was not easy to get hold of those for rent-only items+costed quite lot.
Back then in dutch money 125NLG from "heroic ones" was out of my reach.
I have four riders and men from the monastery.Nice big cases:)

[chen lung]

"Crane!!!!! Tiger Claw!!!!!" as yelled out by the protagonists during the finale.

When is 'The Master' coming? I'm sure 'Heroes Two' won't be the only movie that Chen Kwan Tai contributes to, over at MB's ;).

Speaking of Warner's stuff, Betamaxs are floating around Ebay (seen 'King Boxer' before), whilst my Mum picked up 'Shaolin Challenges Ninja' months ago for me. I believe this was my first Shaw English film (got the IVL DVD) and I forgot that the nunchaku scene would have been taken out by the BBFC :(...

[Linn1]

Does this include full approx.9 mins sequence where Chen Kuan Tai,Fu Sheng&Chi Kuan Chun display Hung fist with english commentary?

Last I talked to the home office a few days ago, the following is on there:

New Hi Def remaster of the film, 16:9 enhanced (I've seen it, and it blows away the HK disc)
New retranslated subtitles (includes onscreen text as well, even during dub)
Original Mono soundtracks (Original English dub and original Mandarin)
5.1 English dub remaster
Original English international trailer
Original HK trailer
Original HK and English lobby cards/posters (maybe more coming)
Original Three Styles of the Hung Fist with English dub (includes option to watch it at the start of the film as it was in theaters)
New Three Styles of the Hung Fist with new English dub and Cantonese sound track
New interview with Chen Kuan Tai on his background and the film itself

And there's a few more things that may be on there as well, including my commentary, but it has to all be okayed by Celestial. The Master comes out a couple of months later.

[HAZ]

Last I talked to the home office a few days ago, the following is on there:

New Hi Def remaster of the film, 16:9 enhanced (I've seen it, and it blows away the HK disc)
New retranslated subtitles (includes onscreen text as well, even during dub)
Original Mono soundtracks (Original English dub and original Mandarin)
5.1 English dub remaster
Original English international trailer
Original HK trailer
Original HK and English lobby cards/posters (maybe more coming)
Original Three Styles of the Hung Fist with English dub (includes option to watch it at the start of the film as it was in theaters)
New Three Styles of the Hung Fist with new English dub and Cantonese sound track
New interview with Chen Kuan Tai on his background and the film itself


This sounds exciting!!!!!



And there's a few more things that may be on there as well, including my commentary, but it has to all be okayed by Celestial. The Master comes out a couple of months later


And this sounds terrifying.

[Winfred]

If they get this one right, imagine what Black Magic 2 will be like. Can't wait.

[Linn1]

And this sounds terrifying.

To be honest, it's been a FAR easier thing to deal with them than it was when I was helping Image on their discs. I don't know if it was that they didn't like Image or Image just didn't know how to talk to them, but they've been much more open with myself and Media Blasters on these releases. Since I've been much closer to the deal in this case, I've had a little more say so in how things have been handled as well. Half the stuff you see in the extras would have never made it onto the Image discs. It only leads me to believe Image didn't really have a handle on how to deal with Celestial overall.

[oldeschool17]

thats good man. I wasnt even planning on getting this release, but i might now

Do you know if this will hit stores like Best Buy/Circuit City?

[Linn1]

I think it's a good bet you'll see it there. FYE too. The idea I had with this release, and all of the ones from Media Blasters, is to make enough improvements on the HK disc that fans feel like they have to buy it. And I guess it's working! :) And as I've said, if you want to see more releases, Shaw Brothers or otherwise, we've got to support these early ones.

[HAZ]

Thanks, linn. I've got my fingers crossed for this one. I hope it comes off as planned.

[HAZ]

I think it's a good bet you'll see it there. FYE too. The idea I had with this release, and all of the ones from Media Blasters, is to make enough improvements on the HK disc that fans feel like they have to buy it. And I guess it's working! :) And as I've said, if you want to see more releases, Shaw Brothers or otherwise, we've got to support these early ones.

I hope they have their Canadian/Quebec distribution set up. There are legal entanglements that have kept many releases off our shelves for long periods of time. Image releases were delayed for months, but now they're coming over okay. There is a godd market for these movies here. In Montreal, there are stores that specialize just in the rentals of Asian films. Our Fantasia film fest is widely known. This is a market that should not be overlooked

[oldeschool17]

I think it's a good bet you'll see it there. FYE too. The idea I had with this release, and all of the ones from Media Blasters, is to make enough improvements on the HK disc that fans feel like they have to buy it. And I guess it's working! :) And as I've said, if you want to see more releases, Shaw Brothers or otherwise, we've got to support these early ones.

Excellent. Id rather buy it from places like that than wait for hkflix

[chen lung]

New Hi Def remaster of the film, 16:9 enhanced (I've seen it, and it blows away the HK disc)
I thought the HK disc looked INCREDIBLE when I first saw the movie (before knowing about all the technical problems), if only I watched this disc first :D.

New retranslated subtitles (includes onscreen text as well, even during dub)
;)

5.1 English dub remaster
Curiously, why isn't there one for Mandarin?

Original HK and English lobby cards/posters (maybe more coming)
;)

Original Three Styles of the Hung Fist with English dub (includes option to watch it at the start of the film as it was in theaters)
Gotta love that verrryy borrrring monnnnnnologue narration that comes with it.

New Three Styles of the Hung Fist with new English dub and Cantonese sound track
Celestial did Mandarin/English versions. Unless there's a new Cantonese one?

including my commentary, but it has to all be okayed by Celestial.
There'll be consequences if it isn't:cool:.

I know I can be a bit bitchy at times, but are the film-based extras all 24p? It's just that if it's not (60i NTSC instead), it'll play havoc on many displays.

[Righteous Master]

This all sound way too good to be true. I had already planned on buying this film, but now I am very excited about this release. Thanks for all the info Linn.

[venom10463]

Last I talked to the home office a few days ago, the following is on there:

New Hi Def remaster of the film, 16:9 enhanced (I've seen it, and it blows away the HK disc)
New retranslated subtitles (includes onscreen text as well, even during dub)
Original Mono soundtracks (Original English dub and original Mandarin)
5.1 English dub remaster
Original English international trailer
Original HK trailer
Original HK and English lobby cards/posters (maybe more coming)
Original Three Styles of the Hung Fist with English dub (includes option to watch it at the start of the film as it was in theaters)
New Three Styles of the Hung Fist with new English dub and Cantonese sound track
New interview with Chen Kuan Tai on his background and the film itself

And there's a few more things that may be on there as well, including my commentary, but it has to all be okayed by Celestial. The Master comes out a couple of months later.

DROOLING.............

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

In Montreal, there are stores that specialize just in the rentals of Asian films

Hey HAZ, your from Montreal too!:cool: Appart from Marché clandestin, what other stores are you refering too?

[HAZ]

Hey HAZ, your from Montreal too!:cool: Appart from Marché clandestin, what other stores are you refering too?

Well, I keep my spots clost to the vest, but I'll let you know of a few ;) The Movieland on St. Catherine has a couple hundred Asian DVD releases. Sukubus in Verdun was amazing. Their new location was a little out of the way & I think they're going to move again. Then there's 2 movie rental spots in Chinatown that have films & TVB dramas. There are also a couple on the south shore & a couple in Ville St laurent. Marche Clandestin is good, but their HK film selection is thin compared to movieland & sukubus.

[Morgoth]

Dammit. I had no plans of rebuying Heroes Two, but it looks like I'm gonna have to fork over the money if it has a commentary and all those extras.

[The Dragon]

Dammit. I had no plans of rebuying Heroes Two, but it looks like I'm gonna have to fork over the money if it has a commentary and all those extras.

That's right, Morgoth.:D The money you were saving for Legend of The Drunken Master Ultimate, Criterion Edition,:rolleyes: will now have to go to Heroes Two. :p

[Bruce Lee]

So Tokyo Shock is an inprint of Media Blasters? Good to know. What about
Japan Shock is that co a US distributer like Media Blasters. Reffereing
to www.japan-shock.com here.

[venom10463]

Japan Shock is a dutch based dvd company. They have no affiliation with Tokyo Shock/Media Blasters.

[Linn1]

I thought the HK disc looked INCREDIBLE when I first saw the movie (before knowing about all the technical problems), if only I watched this disc first :D.

I know exactly what you mean. What's funny is, I hadn't seen the film in quite a while prior to get a copy of the video portion of this new release to do the commentary by. So over a night or two I watched it two times to get a feel for the film. Then I didn't watch it for a week or so, the next time I did was to compare the HK disc and the HD transfer, and I was really shocked. The HK disc looked like a bootleg! I never noticed a whole lot of the PAL to NTSC problems, etc without watching on a computer, which is completely different from an actual TV experience. It was like there was a deep haze over the HK disc. BTW, the Three Styles is Mandarin, just in a rush when I typed that today. As for why there's not a 5.1 Mandarin track, it's largely because they knew the original 5.1 tracks were so screwed up on the HK discs.

There'll be consequences if it isn't

LOL, I'll remember that when everyone is picking it apart in a few weeks! :) The story of the commentary is pretty nutty. As anyone who knows me is aware, I don't do commentaries mainly because I've always had problems pop up that were such a hassle, I've joked quite a few times I'm cursed. Well, the curse was in FULL effect for this one. I had more than a few people, including my wife, ask why I didn't just give up on doing it. It was EASILY one of the most irritating experiences I've had in a long time.

[gravedigger666]

Chinese Super Ninjas
Heroes Two
The Master#
Challenge of the Masters#
Martial Club#
The Deadly Duo
The Brave Archer
The Ten Tigers of Kwangtung
Black Magic 2#
Flag of Iron

Going propably to purchase those all.Movies with # I have not ever seen.Hopefully those releases will do well and some Shaws unreleased by IVL see light one day:cool:

[Winfred]

I hope that for the release of "10 Tigers Of Kwangtung", they will locate Wei Pai for an interview as it has been ages since anyone saw him.

[oldeschool17]

I hope that for the release of "10 Tigers Of Kwangtung", they will locate Wei Pai for an interview as it has been ages since anyone saw him.
Lu Feng hasnt been seen in awhile as well

[chen lung]

As for why there's not a 5.1 Mandarin track, it's largely because they knew the original 5.1 tracks were so screwed up on the HK discs.
Is the English one better mixed?

LOL, I'll remember that when everyone is picking it apart in a few weeks! :)
You mean me?

The story of the commentary is pretty nutty. As anyone who knows me is aware, I don't do commentaries mainly because I've always had problems pop up that were such a hassle, I've joked quite a few times I'm cursed.
You should do a behind the scenes featurette on it all Linn. Tell us what happened for this one ;)!

Will there also be an option to hear the Celestial English/Mandarin versions and the 1974 English version with the remastered (ableit altered) video as well as the original one from VHS?

With the 24p for film-based extras question, are they anamorphic (where available) with no combing issues etc and subtitled ;)?

[Linn1]

Is the English one better mixed?

I haven't heard the new track, but I'm guessing so. They're making an effort to really not screw up the audio since the HK discs were so bad.

Will there also be an option to hear the Celestial English/Mandarin versions and the 1974 English version with the remastered (ableit altered) video as well as the original one from VHS?

We talked about doing just that, I'm not sure until I see the actual disc what they did.

With the 24p for film-based extras question, are they anamorphic (where available) with no combing issues etc and subtitled ;)?

Can't speak on combing issues, but they are supposed to be anamorphic and subtitled.

[chen lung]

Can't speak on combing issues, but they are supposed to be anamorphic and subtitled.
Media Blasters' quality standards mixed with Celestial's incompetence makes for uncertainty.

Obviously MB did '7 Grand Masters' before and it had problems with interlacing and some other stuff, but the subtitles were very good indeed. This is a different situation when Celestial are providing the feast, MB will choose and pour the gravy/sauce.

Hope they'll be provided with a source of acceptable encoding :).

Will bootlegs be pushed off the shelf once these hit the stores?

[Linn1]

I was sweating bullets until getting this email a second ago. Just one sentence, but it's worth the wait:

Your commentary was finally approved by Celestial!

BTW, more good news. If anyone remembers me talking before Christmas about an Asian Film Festival I might be hosting, that's got a tenative ok for the month of April.

[chen lung]

EXCLUSIVE FROM CHEN LUNG:

Reaction from Linn (regardless of outcome when the email was opened)!!

http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/upload/thelostdragon/omg.gif

Have the subtitles been approved too :D?

[whiphero]

ROTFL

That reaction is marvelous. It even beats Bruce Le's performance in 'Bruce and the Shaolin Bronzemen'. Pure class.

[Linn1]

Italian Spiderman...nice. And yes, subtitles have already been approved.

[chen lung]

ROTFL

That reaction is marvelous. It even beats Bruce Le's performance in 'Bruce and the Shaolin Bronzemen'. Pure class.
I got it from thelostdragon (Hussain) over at bulletsnbabes.

Good to see you on mate :).

[chen lung]

Italian Spiderman...nice..
That GIF was?

Is there still absolutely no way the original intro can't be redone from the reels at Media Blasters/Celestial's cost somehow, or a special deal?

Is the DVD due to finish production just shortly?

Will branching be incorporated for alternative credit sequences/endings (with exception to '3 Styles Of Hung Fist' which will have it - just the presentation details to be finalized)?

DVD-Rom content still would have been nice despite the position - I doubt it would stop bootleggers anyway as they find it elsewhere. Besides, being a legit release etc, I can't imagine of anymore harm coming?

Are there more unannounced extras to come;)?

[Linn1]

That GIF was?

Yes, Italian Spiderman. Look it up on youtube.

Is there still absolutely no way the original intro can't be redone from the reels at Media Blasters/Celestial's cost somehow, or a special deal?

That could happen if you want few to no extras on the other releases. There's a budget for these films and they've actually gone over it for this release.

Is the DVD due to finish production just shortly?

Yes, within the week.

Will branching be incorporated for alternative credit sequences/endings (with exception to '3 Styles Of Hung Fist' which will have it - just the presentation details to be finalized)?

I can't speak for the other releases, but Heroes Two will only have that option for the Three Styles of Hung Fist. I highly doubt it for alternate intros and the like. That sort of thing is just a lot of hassle to get okayed with any company really. That's why you nearly never see it.

Are there more unannounced extras to come;)?

Maybe.

[Yakuza954]

Good news.


BTW, more good news. If anyone remembers me talking before Christmas about an Asian Film Festival I might be hosting, that's got a tenative ok for the month of April.
Where would this be?

[Linn1]

Macon, Ga. I'll post a bit more on it when it's final. I'm not expecting anyone to come from here really, but if your in the area....

[chen lung]

That could happen if you want few to no extras on the other releases. There's a budget for these films and they've actually gone over it for this release.
Alright :). I'm sorry, I didn't even consider budget (even for what has already been put into it);). I just thought Celestial may have done it if requested at a special arrangement/cost or something just for 'mistakes sake' or whatever - ridiculous, I know:cool:.

One thing: Do Celestial have the original credit sequences for their movies? I wonder whether the new ones are pasted over old ones (and why), or if the sources they have didn't have credits. 'Two Champions Of Shaolin' was original, but many of the others are newly generated as you'll know.

I can't speak for the other releases, but Heroes Two will only have that option for the Three Styles of Hung Fist. I highly doubt it for alternate intros and the like. That sort of thing is just a lot of hassle to get okayed with any company really. That's why you nearly never see it.
It's bit of a bummer, but considering we managed to as far as this, I'll lay off :).

Maybe.
OK, will sit tight until further announcements. April's not too bad a month ;).

Are you able to elaborate on BCI's first intentions (in terms of announcements and a title)?

[gorhama]

Wow Linn thanks for the constant updates. Glad to hear the commentary was ok'd. I'm very anxious for this release. It's going to be so awesome to have quality releases for more Shaw Brother's titles.

[oldeschool17]

Whats the tentative date for April?

[venom10463]

Whats the tentative date for April?

Supposedly the 8th.

[GregRodgers]

Huh...Macon..not to far for me..

GregRodgers returns....

[David Rees]

This is a must buy from me...even though i already bought it twice, the HK and Australian release!...
Thank goodness i have an all region player!

HIGH DEFINITION BARGAINS..CLICK HERE (http://www.highdefbargains.co.uk)

[gfanikf]

Here are specs and a note about Linn for the Heroes Two Release

http://hkfilmnews.blogspot.com/2008/03/shaw-brothers-kung-fu-collection.html

[oldeschool17]

Ive cut and pasted the info on that link:

*Remastered Anamorphic 2.35:1 Feature from HD master

*Languages:

*Mandarin Mono with English Subtitles

*English Mono

*English 5.1

*Audio Commentary by Asian Film Historian Linn Haynes**

*Remastered "Three Styles of Hung Fist" available as an intro option for the first time on DVD (Mandarin with English titles only)

*Original Mandarin Trailer (with English subtitles)*New Mandarin Trailers (4 variations, with English Subtitles)

*"Three Styles of Hung Fist", original English language version (from unremastered video)

*Original English language export trailer (from unremastered video)

*Original English language opening (from unremastered video)

*"Made to be a Hero" An all-new interview with star Chen Kuan-tai (produced by Mike Leeder)*Stills and art gallery





**We're deeply honored to have had the invaluable (and irreplaceable) assistance of Linn Haynes. He dedicated his life to classic kung fu films. His knowledge runs deep and his enthusiasm and professionalism can be felt all through this release. He provided a lot of the great video extras you see above and his commentary does not disappoint. In fact, I'd say it's one of the most informative and entertaining I've heard in a long time.


He apparently ran into a snag or two in completing his commentary. It arrived to us late and still had to go to Celestial for approval. Due to the scheduling of the packaging printing, we weren't able to get commentary approval before it went to press. Therefore, unfortunately, his name does not appear on the packaging, which he was disappointed with but understanding of. But the commentary is on there (in the setup menu). In one of our last email exchanges, I was able to inform him of Celestial's approval and he was "very happy!"


It was a real pleasure working with him from the early stages of the process to the plans he had for upcoming editions. As we were working mainly on one film at a time, we weren't able to get too far on future releases before his untimely passing. We know his absence will be felt through the remainder of our Shaw Brothers releases but, hopefully, so will his spirit.

[David Rees]

"We know his absence will be felt through the remainder of our Shaw Brothers releases but, hopefully, so will his spirit."
Very well put, cant wait to see this released even if it will always be a sad reminder.....



HIGH DEFINITION BARGAINS..CLICK HERE! (http://www.highdefbargains.co.uk)

[gorhama]

Agreed that was a well written piece on Linn. I don't want to tell everyone here what to do. But I think we all need to pick up a copy to make this one of the best selling titles for April!! Based on the reactions around here that was going to happen anyways. :D

While it will be sad, I'm very much looking forward to hearing Linn's commentary!!

[Morgoth]

Thanks for posting that g. I haven't seen you here in awhile. Losing Linn is tough on anyone who ever read one of his posts, so take your time and come back whenever you feel comfortable. I wish I could put into words how extremely angry I am that he is gone. I guess we have to just try and get over it, but he will never be forgotten.

[The Dragon]

I know I'll pick it up to support Linn's efforts. We must press forward so his work pays off...

[gfanikf]

Thanks for posting that g. I haven't seen you here in awhile. Losing Linn is tough on anyone who ever read one of his posts, so take your time and come back whenever you feel comfortable. I wish I could put into words how extremely angry I am that he is gone. I guess we have to just try and get over it, but he will never be forgotten.


Thanks I appreciate it.

[The Running Man]

It really touches my heart to see that Linn at least got to record an audio commentary or two. I've always been hoping he would.

[clayk]

I have not been on this forum for very long, but could this be the most anticipated Region 1 release thus far? What are your thoughts?

[Morgoth]

I wasn't going to get it, but since it has a commentary from Linn, the Hung Fist intro, and a new interview with chen Kuan Tai, it's a must buy.

[oldeschool17]

is it out tomorrow or next tuesday? So happy a bestbuy is right up the street from my apartment

[Morgoth]

Yeah I hope it's at BB. I think it's out next Tuesday.

[oldeschool17]

Yeah I hope it's at BB. I think it's out next Tuesday.

Linn(R.I.P) said that it would and i saw magic blade and shaolin intruders there last time i was there.

[Tosh]

Linn(R.I.P) said that it would and i saw magic blade and shaolin intruders there last time i was there.

Which one are you going to? The ones I've checked out have 50 copies of American ninja, Some Bruce Lee and a Jaa title:mad: it's getting sad.

[venoms5]

The one near me had these SB movies on the shelves--

36 CHAMBERS
DEADLY BREAKING SWORD
SHAOLIN INTRUDERS

[Morgoth]

Mine used to have all the early Image releases like Boxer's Omen and Legendary Weapons, but they never restocked them. You would think that since they soldout, then they would want to get at least 1 more copy in stock.

[oldeschool17]

Which one are you going to? The ones I've checked out have 50 copies of American ninja, Some Bruce Lee and a Jaa title:mad: it's getting sad.

The one right on lavista/piedmont in the Lindbergh Center across from the Marta station. Mad convenient cause its right up the street from me. which best buy are you going to? Cause i got Deadly Breaking Sword @ the best buy near Perimeter Mall.

edit: you live near the Bestbuy off Moreland, right? Not too far from Lil 5?

[chen lung]

Only 6 days to go (well, for me being in the UK, a while longer)!

I hope someone can post an advanced review of the disc ;)???

[RogueWarrior]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0012R1R1Q/dvdtalk

Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

On amazons site for this title. I was going to order it for Tue's release. Well, for A release...


I just looked at DeepDiscount and they have a street date of April 15th.

[HAZ]

No store here in Montreal has a clue when it will be out. Guess its HKflix for me!

[clayk]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0012R1R1Q/dvdtalk

Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

On amazons site for this title. I was going to order it for Tue's release. Well, for A release...


I just looked at DeepDiscount and they have a street date of April 15th.

That's odd that you are now unable to preorder from Amazon, even though they show the Release Date below as April 8 still.

[thekfc]

I think it is listed on Both Circuit City & Best Buy sort of - They have their info mess up, as always.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8729708&productCategoryId=cat02017&type=product&tab=3&id=1827193#productdetail

http://entertainment.circuitcity.com/Movies/Movie.aspx?v_id=V+++125217&prodid=TSH810DVD&type=cast#sublinks

Both BB & CC has the cast of Blood Brothers/Dynasty of Blood BUT have FU Sheng in the cast and CC has Blood Brothers an AKA of Heroes Two.
Both have a release date of this Tuesday 4/8/08 - I will pass there on Tuesday to see if it is Heroes Two or Ti Lung's Blood Brothers.

[oldeschool17]

im sure between me and morgoth, we'll let everyone know the verdict by tuesday evening. I'll stop by Best Buy after work probably after 7pm EST

[gorhama]

My awesome wife will be picking this up for me Tuesday when most stores open!!

[tylerpistol]

My copy from HKFlix hasn't shipped yet, and they usually ship the Friday before the release date. Same thing happened with "Zebraman". Maybe it's delayed for a week or two?

[The Dragon]

Calm down, everyone... It's coming, and we will get the opportunity to talk about it once it's released. No need to hyperventilate.
:o

[oldeschool17]

Calm down, everyone... It's coming, and we will get the opportunity to talk about it once it's released. No need to hyperventilate.
:o
no shit, lol:p

[Morgoth]

im sure between me and morgoth, we'll let everyone know the verdict by tuesday evening. I'll stop by Best Buy after work probably after 7pm EST

Well I may beat you by an hour or two. We'll see. I checked Suncoast hoping to get it a few days early, but they didn't have it. It's really gonna be weird listening to a commentary from someone's voice I've never heard yet who I respect so much. This is the first time I have ever bought a DVD with no intention of watching the movie, I'm just getting it for special features. It's a good movie, but I've seen it a few times and I'm done with it. Tuesday can't come soon enough. MAybe then I will stop rambling:p

[thekfc]

Was in Manhattan today and a guy at J&R told me they will have it. So if I am in that area on Tuesday I will pick it up in the morning.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4220180

[Tosh]

The one right on lavista/piedmont in the Lindbergh Center across from the Marta station. Mad convenient cause its right up the street from me. which best buy are you going to? Cause i got Deadly Breaking Sword @ the best buy near Perimeter Mall.

edit: you live near the Bestbuy off Moreland, right? Not too far from Lil 5?

Yeah that's the one I'm talking about, I'm working right close to Lindberg this week, I'll be picking this up tomorrow(hell I'll check today), I haven't seen this movie yet so I can't wait.

The best buy next to the mall of Georgia has a good selection if your ever up that way

[oldeschool17]

Yeah that's the one I'm talking about, I'm working right close to Lindberg this week, I'll be picking this up tomorrow(hell I'll check today), I haven't seen this movie yet so I can't wait.

The best buy next to the mall of Georgia has a good selection if your ever up that way
Im never in that direction cause its way out of the ways. However, the wife has been up that way a few times with her friends to shop.

I too thought about stopping by Best Buy today to see if they wanted to be proactive and have their stock up. If not i think i persuaded my wife to nab me a copy while im at work tomorrow. Man talk about the anticipation for this release!

[chen lung]

I get an ugly feeling it's been pushed back:(.

[chen lung]

Amazon list it as 'Currently Unavailable', PlayUSA state it's 'Temporarily Out Of Stock', other sites are still at 'Pre-Order', whilst Deep Discount claim it's now going to be the 15th...

[Morgoth]

Yeah it shouldn't say currently unavailable on Amazon. You can't even preorder it. This sucks, but I'm still gonna have to check best Buy and Suncoast tomorrow:mad:

[clayk]

Yeah it shouldn't say currently unavailable on Amazon. You can't even preorder it. This sucks, but I'm still gonna have to check best Buy and Suncoast tomorrow:mad:

My amazon order still shows that it will be released tomorrow. It was preordered quite some time ago though. I guess we'll find out tomorrow...

Those who can get it from known sources ( Best Buy etc. ) will be the early informers as to the actual status of the release.

[Bravery]

I live in lower Delaware about 15 minutes from a best buy in Maryland-- they didn't have it, not even listed is what the sales person told me. I have a meeting in the morning and the hotel near where i'm going to stay there is a best buy, will let you all know my findings in the tomorrow.

[thekfc]

Have anyone been able to get it?
Neither the Best Buy, Circuit City or J & R didn't have it. Even some of the sales people are waiting for it for themselves. I did a preorder to be "safe".

[gfanikf]

I sent an email to MB asking them about the date. I'll post anything I hear.

[Morgoth]

The Suncoast in Omaha didn't get it in today. Hopefully the delay is only a week or so.

[teako170]

Anyone check with Singh the Garbage Man? :rolleyes:

[HAZ]

Nothing :( How hard is it to put out a DVD of a film made 30 years ago on time? It's not like the elements need to be assembled.

[oldeschool17]

Nothing at my Best Buy.

[gorhama]

Well my wife combed every isle at BB as well. Hopefully it will be in later this week!!

DAMN YOU MEDIA BLASTERS FOR MAKING US WAIT!!! :D

[thekfc]

Anyone check with Singh the Garbage Man? :rolleyes:

He would have it the week before it come out & "it would be clear like glass". ;)

[froffeecoffee]

Why must we kung fu fans continue to suffer like this. :confused:

[The Dragon]

He He... :D

I told you guys to calm down.

[Morgoth]

So I'm guessing nobody got it today...

[Bravery]

Nothing.

[Morgoth]

Well then that makes me feel a little better:p

[Bravery]

Well then that makes me feel a little better:p

Yeah, I felt pretty good about it, too. Especially when I was spelling out Heroes Two and explaining that it wasn't a sequel to Jet Li's Hero.

Also, i'm thinking this may turn into an online, in-store order thing when it's released.

[venom10463]

Yeah, I felt pretty good about it, too. Especially when I was spelling out Heroes Two and explaining that it wasn't a sequel to Jet Li's Hero.

Also, i'm thinking this may turn into an online, in-store order thing when it's released.

Don't you just love those clueless sales associates:D
Judging by the date deep discount dvd is going by. It's probably going to be the 15 since media blasters just shipped the dvds out this week.

[Morgoth]

Yeah, I felt pretty good about it, too. Especially when I was spelling out Heroes Two and explaining that it wasn't a sequel to Jet Li's Hero.


That's a good one. What a dumbass.

[The Dragon]

That's a good one. What a dumbass.

All together now,.." We Are The World... We Are The Children...!"

LMAOROTF!!:D

[bobo]

when i asked about it at the local bestbuy they thought it was the second season of some tv show called heroes. i actually had to convince them it was TWO not II .

[teako170]

OUCH! Where's the love??
I'm sure all those clueless dumbasses are feeling oh-so-inferior realizing they don't know an obscure Chinese movie from three decades ago....

Geez, you boys sound like a pack of ruthless Manchus beating up the poor little village idiot.
Just remember, in our movies, that idiot learns kung fu and kicks ... everyone's ... ass! :eek:

[Morgoth]

lol

you got a point teako

[teako170]

lol
you got a point teako

Haha...

Seriously though, Linn waited YEARS to finally get a commentary on disc.
I'm sure we'all can wait a few extra days / week or so. Tis not the end of the world....

[chen lung]

Haha...

Seriously though, Linn waited YEARS to finally get a commentary on disc.
I'm sure we'all can wait a few extra days / week or so. Tis not the end of the world....
Introduction of actual styles (in this case, the animals), the history of Hung (Hei Goon) Fist, Fong Sai Yuk, the Chings, etc: A rather perfect movie to commentate to, even if it's a tad sloppy in combat. Still love it (was my 2nd Shaw back in 2004) and I look forward to the improved quality as well!

'The Master' is a fictitious film and a little later on for Shaws (if you know what I mean), but I'm sure it would have worthy info in it :). Very slim chance of a commentary by Linn?

[gfanikf]

Haha...

Seriously though, Linn waited YEARS to finally get a commentary on disc.
I'm sure we'all can wait a few extra days / week or so. Tis not the end of the world....

It is I had a chance to hear the commentary and it's quite wonderful. It's just amazing. The only bad part is its going to be the only one and Linn's last words are, "Hopefully we'll meet again".:(

[The Running Man]

Really?

This is the only commentary he ever got to record for these DVDs?

[gfanikf]

Really?

This is the only commentary he ever got to record for these DVDs?

Sadly, yes.

[The Running Man]

Man. :(

[teako170]

Hey - Deep Discount sent me an email that my H2 disc has finally shipped!
I Got Mail Yaaaaaayyyyyyy....

JxazZRfbups&feature=related

[magicpoe]

Yep me too.

Oh Crank Yankers.................One of the few shows on TV that actually made me uncomfortable/embarrased in my own home.

I feel sad and rather disappointed that Linn isn't here to see the work that he loved doing finally available for the fans.

[Nakadai]

Me three.

At least Linn's spirit will live on through his commentary. No one can take the from him. :)

[The Running Man]

The disc I heard was delayed and I think people on this forum were complaining but I think there was a good reason for this. At the end of the film's presentation, and following the MB credits, MB attached a "In Memory" screen for Linn. Really cool of them to do that, I think that's why it was delayed. Since he died at the last minute, they probably help back pressing so they can at least add something because of his passing. I'm glad that they did. :)

[DrunkenMantis13]

The disc I heard was delayed and I think people on this forum were complaining but I think there was a good reason for this. At the end of the film's presentation, and following the MB credits, MB attached a "In Memory" screen for Linn. Really cool of them to do that, I think that's why it was delayed. Since he died at the last minute, they probably help back pressing so they can at least add something because of his passing. I'm glad that they did. :)

They really did this?! That's just Awesome! Media Blasters always deliver, and now show they have a kind heart too! I really appreciate and can't wait to get this release.

[kungfusamurai]

That was very nice of MB to do that! I ordered the Heroes Two DVD a couple of days ago, so I'm looking forward to hearing Brother Linn's commentary. He mentioned somewhere that there were problems when doing it, did it get written down somewhere? Just curious about what made that particular commentary difficult for him to get through.

KFS

[oldeschool17]

That was very nice of MB to do that! I ordered the Heroes Two DVD a couple of days ago, so I'm looking forward to hearing Brother Linn's commentary. He mentioned somewhere that there were problems when doing it, did it get written down somewhere? Just curious about what made that particular commentary difficult for him to get through.

KFS

It was celestial. They had to ok it before it was put on to the dvd

[teako170]

That was very nice of MB to do that! I ordered the Heroes Two DVD a couple of days ago, so I'm looking forward to hearing Brother Linn's commentary. He mentioned somewhere that there were problems when doing it, did it get written down somewhere? Just curious about what made that particular commentary difficult for him to get through.KFS

Linn sent me an email (his last, actually) explaining all this.
I wasn't sure if I should post it or not - as emails are a private matter - but considering the events that followed, I'm now on the fence regarding this.

Perhaps when I get home and read it again, I can summarize what he told me.

[gfanikf]

Linn sent me an email (his last, actually) explaining all this.
I wasn't sure if I should post it or not - as emails are a private matter - but considering the events that followed, I'm now on the fence regarding this.

Perhaps when I get home and read it again, I can summarize what he told me.

Terry, I talked to him about the same things. I think its ok, if anything it shows Linn's love and devotion to the genre. He was actually laughing about it when I talked to him.

Also mine arrived at 9:10 at my Apt. I'll be be back there around 12:30 :)

[gfanikf]

This DVD is wonderful and so is the commentary. Absolutely a pleasure.

[teako170]

Terry, I talked to him about the same things. I think its ok, if anything it shows Linn's love and devotion to the genre. He was actually laughing about it when I talked to him.


Well, here it is. I received this email on 2/17 but didn't reply back for several days.
I assume he got my reply though he never had the chance to reply back.

This is just part of a longer email I got from him that day.
Hadn't read it since Feb. Sort of sad yet it also made me smile a bit.
While the man could talk, he certainly could write as well! :p

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Resting up from the commentary actually. Without a doubt the BIGGEST pile of shit I've dealt with in a LONG time. I told you that I'm cursed when it comes to commentaries correct? It got worse.

I video taped the commentary like they wanted and sent it to them about three or four weeks ago. I heard nothing from them for a while and after about a week, I sent them an email. They never recieved the commentary and were trying to get ahold of me. It seems they replaced their email server or something and hotmail was blocking all messages from the new server.

So they got ahold of me perhaps a day before the commentary was due to tell me they hadn't gotten it yet. It had to go with everything else they had for the disc to Celstial to get okayed. The idea they have to check out a commentary is strange IMO.

Anyway, it turned out they had something else that had to go this Friday, so I had till this Friday to give them another one. I had found a program I was going to use on all future commentaries, that would let me make easy to record and send copies on the computer, AND I had three days off in a row because I was going on a business trip for my store.

So I had to redo my notes, I had tossed them after I was done with the first commentary, and I took two days to lay down the major track. All I had to do then was put it all together, add a bit here and there, and it was done. WRONG!! On the third day, I found out that ALL the audio I had done sounded like I was underwater. It was because, unknown to me, the program I was using saved everything in 8-bit audio unless you made it do otherwise. That meant everytime I listened to something and it sounded great because it was playing it for me in 32 bit, but once I saved it, I was degrading it to where it sounded like crap. So two days of work were ruined and I had two days left, including a travel day to the store I was helping.

I had to redo the whole thing and more or less didn't sleep for a day to get it done. On the plus side, I know what not to do in the future, which will help a lot. The big problem was I was trying to learn the program as I was using it for a big job with a SHORT deadline.

No matter what, it was a major nightmare. I think the commentary was okay, I don't think there's a gap of time on the disc longer than a minute and a half at any point, and maybe five of those. I covered everything I wanted to, but some was weird.

I didn't realize it, but I have a STRANGE way of talking sometimes. And I don't mean southern accent, which I don't have a deep one of those.

Take care, Linn

[chen lung]

Experience makes for the better I suppose, but at least Linn was through the worst so he wouldn't have to deal with it had it unexpectedly come in future commentaries.

Anyhow, I've finally got it on order at Amazon Marketplace so I'll maybe wake up to find it waiting for me on the table when I head downstairs, OR I'll really annoyingly have to wait until I've been to college.

[Morgoth]

I got it I got it! Suncoast finally got it instock, and it rang up for only $12.99 ($11.75 with card)! And I got Intimate COnfessions at Best Buy. Today is a good day:D

And Teako thanks for the info on the commentary. Much appreciated.

[oldeschool17]

I got it I got it! Suncoast finally got it instock, and it rang up for only $12.99 ($11.75 with card)! And I got Intimate COnfessions at Best Buy. Today is a good day:D

And Teako thanks for the info on the commentary. Much appreciated.

I take it you didnt see heroes two at best buy?

[Morgoth]

Nah, didn't see it there. Maybe it's in the TV section. That's the only place I didn't check:p

[Oily Maniac]

If it's not postet yet:

The german DVD is longer than the IVL Version, all the Framecuts are included. Here is a comparison between the UK and the German DVD:

http://schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=4761

It has the Original 2.0 Track like the other german DVDs and engl. subs.
Does the US-DVD include these scenes?

[oldeschool17]

Gotta love the German dvd cover. Did they hire the graphic artist from the Wu Tang Xenon covers for that one?

[Oily Maniac]

They said that they didn't get any material from celestial, so they used parts from Secret Service of the Imperial Court for Heroes Two and the Heroic Ones IVL-Cover for Killer Clans.
The Label is usually known for cheap and shitty DVDs but at least they made some good Shaw-DVDs.