Post a better fight scene!

[falkor]

The challenge is to find the ultimate fight scene of any martial arts film via feedback and discussion of Youtube clips. Let's kick off the show with The Victim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dYnzRSf8jg

Many fans will agree that the end fight in the Victim is the best martial arts scene ever captured on celluloid (though I personally disagree). Please post a clip to a fight scene that, in your view, you believe is superior! We can then act as both judge and jury by sharing our opinions, in a way, voting, on whether the latest clip is the best, or a previous one.

If the majority say the Victim is still the best then somebody needs to come up with something better.
If the majority say the latest clip is the best then somebody still has to come up with something better otherwise the last poster wins, so to speak!

Remember, this could be a fight scene from a TV series or a fight scene featured early on in a movie where the end fight isn't as entertaining, or the movie is crap overall.

Imagine we are all judges in the Olympics holding up scorecards after watching scores of fight scenes! Will this topic work out? We can all but try... I realise that some folks do not have the ability to judge, criticise or rank one thing from another, so they needn't post. Remember, we are not judging which fight scene has the best move(s) or some other aspect, but the overall choreographed performance.

[Yi-Long]

I was gonna post the Fist of Legend fight of Jet vs Kurata here, but YouTube doesnt have the scene in the original language, soundeffects and music, so that pretty much ruins it, so F*** it.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

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This is really tough. There are a lot fights that I like better than the finale in The Victim, but few that I can say are definitely better (IMO of course...). It depends on whether you are talking about Leung Kar Yan vs Chang Yi, or are you also including the 2 fights that come just before it? If you are talking about just Chang Yi vs Leung Kar Yan, I can come up with a good #, but if you are talking about all 3 fights then that is going to be hard to match. The only one I can say is better is the final fight in Buddha Assassinator, mainly because of the uniqueness of it.


And you posted this in the classic kung fu section. Are movies 1985 and after allowed as well? Becuase with JAckie, Sammo, Donnie... I feel that there are a lot of better fights than the finale in The Victim.




And I can't find that Buddha Assassinator end fight on youtube. I thought for sure it would be on there. I wish I knew how to upload clips.

[Bravery]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk_fAKWQenw


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I don't know if this is the best, but it is one of my favorite fights.

[Markgway]

Those are OK I suppose... but this is much better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY

[Morgoth Bauglir]

That's a top 10 right there MArkgway, but not quite the best. I can't post the clip because of nudity, but the nude fight scene in Shaolin Dolemite is what I have decided is the best fight. Lo Rei had a tough time handling that lady's boobs. Just try and name a better fight than that.:D

[Chinatown Kid]

If modern fights count then I'll post the endfight between Donnie Yen and Colin Chu in Flashpoint. The fights between Donnie and Wu Jing and Donnie and Sammo come in right behind it in Sha Po Lang.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Yeah that is what I was thinking too Chinatown kid. Collin Chou vs Donnie Yen, and Jackie vs Benny in Dragons Forever (I think most people prefer their fight in Wheels on Meals, but I like the one in Dragons Forever more).

[Chinatown Kid]

Those guys in the clip Mark posted looked so stiff in their movements that they looked like rigamortis had set in lol. Yeah Morgoth I love both Jackie's fights with Benny in those two films as well.

[Monk Sante]

Death Duel of Kung fu!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCUCpgrwoaA

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Death Duel of Kung fu!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCUCpgrwoaA


I like The Victim and Buddha Assassinator finales more, but that is a really amazing fight. John Liu and Eagle Han make your jaw drop to the floor, and then bam! Wong Tao comes in with the best kick of the fight. But I don't think it matches the intensity that's in The Victim (though if we are talking just Chang Yi vs Leung Lar Yan and not the other 2 fights, then I would put it ahead), and while it's a vry creative fight because of the awesome legwork, I don't think it matches the creativity in the Buddha Assassinator finale. And to be "the" best fight scene, I think it has to be nearly perfect, and that little bit of stunt doubling in Death Duel takes away from the fight a bit. I'm not complaining about it (because I like to see goofy stuff like that in kung fu movies), but I think it may take it out of the running as "the" best fight scene. And speaking of not being perfect, the end of the final fight in Buddha Assassinator is a bit disappointing for me, but I've seen Hwang get defeated in much worse ways, so I can't complain too much.



Another fight I know is highly regarded is the finale in Fearless Dragons aka Two on the Road. -


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When I first saw that, I thought it was the best fight ever. But as I watched it more I wasn't completely satisfied with Wang Lung Wei's performance. He does very good don't get me wrong, but at times it seems like he has trouble keeping up with the choreography. Or maybe it's just because I like watching WLW do a kickboxing style more than shapes. What do you guys this of that fight? The best?










And here's another one I'll throw into the mix-


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[Jstn]

I have to say, out of all posted so far, The Victim fight is tops IMO. I also like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ELvtEX5H0

[Morgoth Bauglir]

I have to say, out of all posted so far, The Victim fight is tops IMO. I also like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ELvtEX5H0

Great minds think alike ;)

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

This is to tough... I forgot how amazing The Victim's end fight was. There are so many awesome fights. I'll had this for the sake of argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C94ZZu8bS6s

Like Falkor I cheated... That's two fights.

But man, it's so hard... Depends on if you feel on seeing weapons, shapes, hard hitting kung fu, one on one, against multiple opponents... I can't chose one sorry.

By the way Falkor, you presented The Victim as the ultimate fight but you said you disagree it is THE Best ever. Why don't you post your real pick.

[Endsang]

The Victim is great, but a tad overrated.

Here's a better fight in my opinion.

Not sure which one I like better.. this or Deadly Challenger.

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[she]

my opinion might not be the most educated but one of the things that make a fight scene truly great to me is the attitude of the people involved.

furious anger and "yaahhhh!" before attacks are launched are cool but i prefer the calm collective demeanor of a master who, even in the midst of fatal circumstances, breathes easy, offers a smile and conversation and makes reference to the deadly situation with witty metaphor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_6wBM4snbI

[Gaijin84]

That Dirty Ho fight is fantastic.

I have to give a vote for Gordon Liu vs Johnny Wang in Martial Club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0n3jKJG94

But my favorite of all time has to be Jackie vs Ken Lo at the end of Drunken Master II. The choreography is amazing and the music adds to the mayhem. Classic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qHxY_vX8o

[Jstn]

That Dirty Ho fight is fantastic.

I have to give a vote for Gordon Liu vs Johnny Wang in Martial Club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0n3jKJG94

But my favorite of all time has to be Jackie vs Ken Lo at the end of Drunken Master II. The choreography is amazing and the music adds to the mayhem. Classic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qHxY_vX8o

Yes, those two are amazing, esp. the Chan fight, amazing action that was

[Monk Sante]

Ok here is one that ranks among the best of em.........the final fight scene in Crystal Fist. XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyG5-ILuuLo

[Tosh]

SheeeeeeeeetXD no HJL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ553DJbQF4

[Morgoth Bauglir]

SheeeeeeeeetXD no HJL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ553DJbQF4

I wanted to post some from the king of kicks, but I can't find the BUddha Assassinator final fight on youtube.




After carefully considering this, and looking through everybody's posts, I think it's pretty obvious that this is the best fight scene ever filmed-

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[Tosh]

After carefully considering this, and looking through everybody's posts, I think it's pretty obvious that this is the best fight scene ever filmed-



Sure, if your 90:p

[Jstn]

This is actually my favorite movie with Hwang Jang Lee, although; maybe not the greatest fight of all time, the boat paddle action is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Uv5b-2Nuk

[rederror]

Eight Diagram is a personal favourite of mine. There are so many fight scenes that are just amazing. Just think some of the best kung fu movies were made 30 years or so ago and have yet to be matched yet and probably never will.

Drunken master 2? gets me every time.

[falkor]

This is actually my favorite movie with Hwang Jang Lee, although; maybe not the greatest fight of all time, the boat paddle action is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Uv5b-2Nuk
I think this atleast better than The Victim; what does everybody else think?

[thehangman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjCIcz-OLA

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

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Cheesy flick, awesome fight!

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

I think this atleast better than The Victim; what does everybody else think?

Not by a longshot... Although not a bad fight, I think it's comes last to all the fights posted yet, even the one posted by Markgway...;)

[Chinatown Kid]

I liked HJL's fight performance in Kid From Kwangtung better than Hell's Windstaff, that's my favorite from him outside Drunken Master.

[AlbertV]

How about this one:

Kim Tai-Jung against Hwang Jang-Lee in Tower of Death
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[Chinatown Kid]

Yeah I liked that one too Albert, but my favorite scene is between Kim and Casanova in the greenhouse fight in the US version under the title Game of Death II. Cas was on fire with his kicks in that scene! :D

[AlbertV]

That was a classic fight:

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Just for the Chinatown Kid :D

Here's another fight I liked: Tony Leung Siu-Hung vs. Kwan Feng in Five Superfighters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AX-G8DLxrE

[silver hermit]

that victim clip is very good. the things that make it so great to me are the foot work and the zooms and camera work and the way it follows the fight and frames the action. the hand work is not all that and not much boot work. but sammo must have been in a real zone when he set up the cameras for that fight scene.

the end fight from the loot is also a good pick. that must be the best ko fei has looked on film. i'm surprised no one mentioned this fight
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[silver hermit]

the best ever ... for now
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[WalkOn]

Great stuff! Most of my favorites have been posted like Death Duel of Kung Fu, Seven Steps of Kung Fu and Tower of Death.

Here's a few more of my favorites...

Rebellious Reign (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrwaLYneQ2Q)

Two Toothless Tigers (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3otpCSr1kCE)

Two Fists Against the Law (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PuHRULL_nQ)

[thekfc]

I would like to add this one.

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[Morgoth Bauglir]

Sorry if it's been mentioned, I didn't see it, but I would put this fight as maybe the best ever. ahead of The Victim-

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[thekfc]

Yeah Morgoth, That is an excellent fight between Wang Lung Wei vs. Chien Yueh Sheng - I would highly rate it up there.

[ironfistedmonk]

That fight in Lion vs Lion is close, I'd still give it to the Victim out of those posted so far but this one...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK_jTYkxJ08

This one just shades The Victim for me, Fung Hark On pulls off some amazingly intricate moves, you need to see this scene a few times to appreciate how good the fight is.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Fung Hak on is great in that fight, but I think that if he was facing someone with equal or close to equal skill level, then maybe I could rank it as one of the best fights ever.

[Endsang]

You can't talk about Fung Hak-On without....

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[Morgoth Bauglir]

Wow I never watched that scene without Dean Shek. It's SO much better. I can't argue with that being one of the best of the best.

[Chinatown Kid]

I still say this is one of the best screen fights ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE

[CarterWong]

My pick is split into 2 parts....

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8JX6ce0DTU

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBFDQJPPwQ&feature=related

[Endsang]

I see your Mystery Of Chessboxing, and raise you with...

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XD

Oh oh! And....

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[Manozen]

Hi,

The final battle in The Victim is a fantastic example of relentless momentum punctuated by masterful technique,
and total command of the fighting measure !

The following mighty four definitely qualify for an ultimate showdown ……

The Buddhist Fist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE9gsn7xH6I)

Year Of The Dragon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rw29T4tcE)

Legendary Weapons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5LMRkc_V40)

Fist Of Fury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q9kYKtvYU0)

Manozen

[Jstn]

You can't talk about Fung Hak-On without....

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Yes, he was amazing in that fight - top movie and fight scene!

[ironfistedmonk]

Boss Mo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[croakerbc]

So many hard choices!!
My top 10 ultimate fight scenes would be:
Donnie Yen vs Collin Chou in Flash point
Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing in S.P.L
The finale of The victim
The finale of The Challenger
The finale of The Loot
The finale of Drunken Master 2
Jet Li vs Yasuaki Kurata in Fist of Legend
The finale of Five super fighters
Donnie Yen vs Monkey in Legend of the wolf
The finale of Dao aka The Blade

Incidentally, you can download all those fight scenes in good quality dvdrip at my blog: http://bestofkungfufighting.blogspot.com/

(yeah, I know, shameless self-advertisement, but then I don't do it for money, only out of love for Kung fu movies :) because I believe a good fight scene should be watched in good quality video, not on youtube!!!)

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Good choices croakerbc.



I'm surprised no one's mentioned this movie yet- fh0flohL4vk








Fast forward to the 3 minute mark. That's when the action really heats up.

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

How that was snubbed at the award shows is beyond me...! Super tight choreography, excellent story, based on real life events I believe, and stellar acting of shakespearian heights.... a masterpiece!

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Yep, really top notch in all areas, and the fact that it has the best most explosive ending ever is just icing on the cake. :D

[Drunken Monk]

Good choices croakerbc.



I'm surprised no one's mentioned this movie yet- fh0flohL4vk








Fast forward to the 3 minute mark. That's when the action really heats up.

The American flag ninja head band is a stroke a genius.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Yeah good call spotting that. In American ninja martial arts you are awarded that headband when you have mastered the head spinning technique. I think that's that the same guy from Born To Defense and Bloodsport. He must be a real life ninja otherwise he wouldn't have looked so good in Clash of the Ninja.

[falkor]

I think we have the tendency to associate good fighting with good movies, but there is also many average Kung Fu movies with above average fight scenes. If only I had noted down over the years all of them that do contain good choreography. I remember the Roaming Monk (AKA Wandering Monk) had good fights, but there is nothing of this film uploaded to youtube.

[falkor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B70TIdur70M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SySBOkhBOa4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOaRUvV21k0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ZMmMRCVsw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDHSLj4ovXc

[peringaten]

Nothing's gonna top Martial Club finale for unarmed or Seven Grand Masters for weapons (you know the scene), for my taste. A lot (and I mean a lot) comes close, but couldn't call anything to please me much more than those two.

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

or Seven Grand Masters for weapons (you know the scene)

Really? I don't even recall a weapon scene in that one...:l

[lillippa328]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSI1348twZA

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Corey Yuen gives an awesome weapons display in 7 Grandmasters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8kiCuMt4vM Your kung fu knowledge rating gets dropped 2 points for that Pyscho Per.

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

I bow in shame... I just got a message informing me I'm banned from the forum...