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xianzai
12-06-2008, 11:21 AM
HD, subbed trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22z2ONneq-E).

Looks fun!

Mike Leeder
12-06-2008, 11:46 AM
DeeDee Ku, one of Yuen Woo-ping protege's did the action choreography for this...also stars 7'1 Conan Stevens Warner brothers 1st Bollywood production

niro
12-06-2008, 12:51 PM
ah so this is the indian film that Gordon Liu was going to be part of...looks fun lol

First Jackie Chan with the Myth now Gordon Liu

AlbertV
12-07-2008, 08:56 PM
I'm a fan of the film's star, Akshay Kumar. He's one of Bollywood's most famous action heroes and he is a legitimate martial artist himself. So it's going to be interesting to see how he pulls off HK-style fighting under DeeDee Ku.

Li Ho
12-08-2008, 04:00 AM
what the hell! does every bollywood movie have song and dance?

xianzai
12-08-2008, 01:01 PM
what the hell! does every bollywood movie have song and dance?No.

OTOH, a well-choreographed dance routine with good music can be as fun to watch as a martial arts fight. They're both spectacles created to entertain.

thundered mantis
12-08-2008, 04:22 PM
I'm a fan of the film's star, Akshay Kumar. He's one of Bollywood's most famous action heroes and he is a legitimate martial artist himself. So it's going to be interesting to see how he pulls off HK-style fighting under DeeDee Ku.

AlbertV, which Akshay Kumar films would you reccomend based solely on "real" physical action and stunts? I emphasize "real" thing ´cause the very few bits of Bwood action pieces I´ve seen rely a lot on comedic CGI or similar effects. It will surely be ignorance on my part, as I´ve seen so few, but anyway, I´d like the real deal!

Thanks man

xianzai
12-08-2008, 08:07 PM
Starts showing in the US 16th January, 2009. US theater listings:
http://www.cc2c-thefilm.com/US/

Li Ho
12-08-2008, 09:43 PM
If I wanted song and dance I'll watch GREASE.Just sayin'.To me, nothing beats a great coreographed fight,not High School Musical 1-50 or anything from Bollywood.

mpm74
12-08-2008, 10:06 PM
I'm surprised you guys haven't mentioned the chick. She is like the hottest thing alive today.

niro
12-08-2008, 10:37 PM
If I wanted song and dance I'll watch GREASE.Just sayin'.To me, nothing beats a great coreographed fight,not High School Musical 1-50 or anything from Bollywood.

i dont like musicals or most of films that come out of bollywood cos they always include music scenes, but i have seen a couple films which were damn funny and this one looks entertaining and for once the dance scenes seem to be part of the film rather than something which has nothing to do with the film and looks to just be a music video stuck into the film.

anyway any martial arts film from whichever part of the world that sounds good should be watched, it shouldnt be dismissed just because its coming from a certain country

AlbertV
12-08-2008, 10:55 PM
AlbertV, which Akshay Kumar films would you reccomend based solely on "real" physical action and stunts? I emphasize "real" thing ´cause the very few bits of Bwood action pieces I´ve seen rely a lot on comedic CGI or similar effects. It will surely be ignorance on my part, as I´ve seen so few, but anyway, I´d like the real deal!

Thanks man

Main Khiladi Tu Anari and Aan: Men of War are two Kumar films I strongly recommend. The first is a Bwood remake of Michael J. Fox and James Woods' The Hard Way, but Kumar has a nicely done fight scene and from what I saw in Aan, Kumar gets to fight Monsour del Rosario and Henry Wong, who choreographed the fight scenes for the movie.

xianzai
12-09-2008, 01:02 AM
To me, nothing beats a great coreographed fight,not High School Musical 1-50 or anything from Bollywood.I used to think the same way, but the human body is capable of many more things than those which can be shown in a fight. Once I started watching Indian films a few years ago I found dancing stimulates the same part of my brain that enjoys fight scenes. Just watch with an open mind; you may enjoy it.

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I'm surprised you guys haven't mentioned the chick. She is like the hottest thing alive today.She has a great body (http://everyactress.blogspot.com/2008/07/deepika-padukone.html), but overall I prefer Shriya (http://idlebrain.com/movie/photogallery/shriya5/index.html) and a bunch of other actresses.

Li Ho
12-09-2008, 08:34 PM
I used to think the same way, but the human body is capable of many more things than those which can be shown in a fight. Once I started watching Indian films a few years ago I found dancing stimulates the same part of my brain that enjoys fight scenes. Just watch with an open mind; you may enjoy it.

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She has a great body (http://everyactress.blogspot.com/2008/07/deepika-padukone.html), but overall I prefer Shriya (http://idlebrain.com/movie/photogallery/shriya5/index.html) and a bunch of other actresses.
I have an open mind.I just dont like musicals.I started to watch Krrsh(Ithink thats the name)because the trailer looked good.It wasnt 10 min.in to the film and there they go singing and dancing.Apparently it doesnt stimulate the same part of my mind as does yours.

niro
12-09-2008, 09:50 PM
The inclusion of music scenes in bollywood films is due to the fact that families go to the cinema as like an outing and its something they can afford, it is the main form of entertainment for poorer families in india. So for that they get several hours of film and music entertainment.

I like you do not like the films having so many music "breaks", if i grew up in India it might be different, but meh thats how it is

xianzai
12-10-2008, 02:00 PM
More footage (warning: may contain dancing):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AWURX5Y-g

"I have an open mind.I just dont like musicals."

Isn't that like saying 'I don't like anime?' Just like with anime, there are all sorts of musicals. If it helps, you can think of the musical numbers as dream sequences or a projection of the inner thoughts and feelings of the characters instead of real events in the movie. Or a good time for a bathroom break.

IIRC, the dancing in Krrish wasn't very good. They had the leading lady doing traditional dance moves which don't look too good in jeans.

Li Ho
12-11-2008, 04:47 AM
More footage (warning: may contain dancing):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AWURX5Y-g

"I have an open mind.I just dont like musicals."

Isn't that like saying 'I don't like anime?' Just like with anime, there are all sorts of musicals. If it helps, you can think of the musical numbers as dream sequences or a projection of the inner thoughts and feelings of the characters instead of real events in the movie. Or a good time for a bathroom break.

IIRC, the dancing in Krrish wasn't very good. They had the leading lady doing traditional dance moves which don't look too good in jeans.

OK.This thread is getting old to me Xianzai.Lets just agree to disagree,(cue the music),and dance our way out of this topic.BTW I am even pickier about my anime.The End.

Kwok Choi
12-13-2008, 12:55 PM
The inclusion of music scenes in bollywood films is due to the fact that families go to the cinema as like an outing and its something they can afford, it is the main form of entertainment for poorer families in india. So for that they get several hours of film and music entertainment

The indian film industry started with silent films in the 30s and started using sound a few years later.Although India is culturally rich in music and dance,the song and dance sequences where not originally part of the movies.
In the old days most cinemas in India had only one projector that could take a minimum of 10 mins to a maximum of an hour's film footage at a time so periodic breaks were needed.During these intervals the cinema owners used to hire local dance troups with side acts to pacify the audience while the projectionist was getting the other part of the movie ready.These intermission acts became so popular that they were eventually featured as part of the usual bill.
The film producers then realised that it would be cool to actually incorporate these acts in their movies.It was difficult at first as live bands,orchestras,musicians,dancers etc had to be in the frame and when a song was required to be picturised on location the whole group had to accompany the stars in whatever means of transportation playing their various instruments in the background.
Luckily the musical rage in Hollywood helped fix this problem.The songs could now be pre-recorded or pre-scored and the lead actors had to mime and dance to the background music.Suspension of disbelief takes over during these sequences.
This new trend gave birth to a thriving sub-industry of music studios,music directors,playback singers for the stars,lyricists,choreographers etc etc which has transformed into a multi-million dollar industry today.
Music in Indian movies became so significant that they could make or break a film.Producers released the music of the films months before their general theatrical release and if the music is a hit,chances are you'll get good box office returns.At one point music directors were as revered as the film directors and strangely the music directors would also take the flack if the movie failed.
Note also that there are many Indian films that don't have any song and sequences.There are other genres that do not require songs, the musicals are mainly mainstream films.
Originally as far back as I can remember,the songs were indeed part of the plot see this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mq5iAH-wD8
but in the early 90s " Item Number " trends started that had nothing to do with the narrative just stuck in as a selling point (I hated this).Though most of these " Item Songs " were impressive see this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvMSrHs6-U8 they undermined the seriousness of Indian cinema from a Western perspective.
Thankfully India film-makers are reverting to the old ways of making the songs part of the story.
Akshay Kumar studied karate in Bangkok (he was a cook before acting) but I don't know to what level.Bear in mind that Indian action fight scenes are not as realistic as their Hong Kong counterparts as most times they try to make their mainstream films suitable for all ages so you might be disappointed in this regard nevertheless check these Akshay Kumar films if you can Saugandh (his 1st release) Awara Pagal Deewana, Khiladiyon Ka Khiladi,Barood and those already mentioned by AlbertV.

Li Ho
12-13-2008, 03:08 PM
thank you for the enlightenment kwok choi.now i know(and knowing is half the battle).

thundered mantis
12-14-2008, 02:09 PM
Thanks for the tips AlbertV, will keep an eye for those two

HyperDrive
12-14-2008, 11:16 PM
Looking good.

I hope that it doesn't have the over-exaggerated fight scenes found in films like the Tamil productions.

xianzai
12-25-2008, 03:46 PM
I hope that it doesn't have the over-exaggerated fight scenes found in films like the Tamil productions.Dee Dee Ku/Hien Chiu Ku is the stunt director. He worked for Yuen Woo Ping.

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Another promo (http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/broadband/video/Movie-Songs/mBrqyi80/2/Chandni-Chowk-To-China-1-Chandni-Chowk-To-China.html)

Looks like something that will play during the end credits...

AlbertV
12-26-2008, 02:41 AM
Thanks for the tips AlbertV, will keep an eye for those two

Nehaflix, an authorized seller of Bollywood has Main Khiladi Tu Anari for only $7.00
http://store.nehaflix.com/mainkhiltuan.html

Aan: Men at Work, also $7.00
http://store.nehaflix.com/aandvd.html

Tosh
12-28-2008, 05:07 PM
I missed this thread, looks pretty cool and it's great to see Gordon getting some work. Thanks for the back history on India cinema Kwok Chui, I like to see the old bollywood movies from the 70's.

xianzai
12-28-2008, 06:19 PM
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1696/25/45/853260693/n853260693_5323333_5418.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1696/25/45/853260693/n853260693_5323331_4922.jpg

wudangimmortal
12-28-2008, 07:17 PM
damn that girl is gorgeous, who is that with gordon liu? A. Rai?

if so she looks different but very niiiccee

AlbertV
12-29-2008, 02:11 PM
The girl's name I think is Deepika Padukone.

Roger Yuan and Conan Stevens are also in the film

xianzai
12-29-2008, 03:04 PM
The girl's name I think is Deepika Padukone.

Yep.

Some pictures (http://www.bollywhat-forum.com/index.php?topic=21579.0).

Her most recent movie is Bachna Ae Haseeno (http://store.nehaflix.com/baaeha2dicoe.html), but she shares screentime with two other women.

There's also Om Shanti Om, available on DVD (http://store.nehaflix.com/omshantiomdvd.html) and Blu-ray (http://store.nehaflix.com/omshombluray.html). Unfortunately it's very much aimed at people familiar with Indian (mainly Bollywood) movies, so there are lots of in-jokes.

wudangimmortal
12-29-2008, 07:40 PM
Breathtaking , will check out the other films, thanks for identifying

niro
12-29-2008, 08:08 PM
o man in couple of the pics she looks like one of my cousins :(

HyperDrive
12-30-2008, 04:53 AM
Dee Dee Ku/Hien Chiu Ku is the stunt director. He worked for Yuen Woo Ping.

That is reassuring for the most part.

Kwok Choi
12-30-2008, 12:25 PM
Yeah she is stunning.Deepika was a model whose new career in acting looks very promising.She is currently dating rising star Ranbir Kapoor the son of one of my all time favourite Indian actors Rishi Kapoor who is part of the mega-famous talented Kapoor clan.Rishi's elder brother Shashi (Ranbir's uncle) is the one chasing Sharmila Tagore in that youtube linked skating song from my previous post from the hit 70s movie " Aa Gale Lag Jaa " (Come,embrace me).
Some pictures of Ranbir;sorry guys ;)
http:www.bollywoodmovies.us/actor/ranbir_kapoor/bollywood_ranbir_kapoor.html

wudangimmortal
01-04-2009, 10:06 PM
o man in couple of the pics she looks like one of my cousins :(

u must hook me up with your cousin haha

xianzai
01-06-2009, 09:36 AM
Dee Dee Ku interview, new fight footage (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/akshay-is-back-as-khiladi-kumar-in-chandni-chowk-to-china/82016-8.html)

'The fight master also trained leading lady Deepika Padukone for more than two weeks* for her stunts, and yes, he says there is a fine difference between Akshay and Deepika's stunts.

'“Girl fights should be powerful and beautiful while for Akshay it is either powerful or something that is not so serious,” Dee Dee said.'

* Keep in mind she's already a trained dancer, like Michelle Yeoh and Cheng Pei Pei. :)

xianzai
01-07-2009, 12:19 AM
Training footage, Deepika interview. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU8Z-rEaymI)

Another Deepika interview (spoilers) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB3rsQpHtOc)

xianzai
01-12-2009, 09:13 PM
An early review (http://www.bollywhat-forum.com/index.php?topic=21563.msg354162#msg354162). Sounds like they blew it:

Maybe my expectations were too high, but I didn't like it very much. The film has three big problems:

1) Tone. The early part of the film is very silly and slapsticky. Akshay plays another 'yokel' character like he did in Singh is Kinng. The audience shrieked with laughter. But just before the intermission the tone changes and the rest of the film features a lot of tears*. I know it's not uncommon for B'wood movies to have drastic changes in tone, especially pre- and post-intermission, but for me the contrast between the screams of laughter from the audience in the first half and the almost complete silence of the audience in the second half was stark.

2) Pace. For a supposed 'martial arts comedy' there was very little action. I spent a lot of time wishing for something to just happen already! It's particularly bad in the second half when the forward-movement of the story is regularly interrupted so that someone can have an extended flashback. Akshay does have some martial arts sequences, but they come too late in the film and are too short. What is there is very good, though. At least in my opinion. I'm looking forward to hearing what more experienced martial arts watchers think.

3) The songs. I thought Kal Ho Naa Ho and Salaam-E-Ishq had great songs with great picturizations and was expecting more of the same from Chandni Chowk to China. Alas, it was not to be. The title track has a visually interesting picturization (at least for the first two-thirds), but the song itself is dumb (and not in a good way). Tere Naina is pretty, and has a clever picturization, but it's too short in the film to make much of an impact. I was disappointed.

*in addition to tears, there is a lot of drool/drooling in the movie
(emphasis added)

When a non-MA fan complains the fight scenes are too short it's a big warning flag to me.

SamuraiDana
01-16-2009, 11:50 PM
I just got back from seeing CHANDNI CHOWK TO CHINA--in a theater, of course--and I loved every minute of it. As a kung fu fan who's seen a fair number of Bollywood films, the mix of these two genres excited me and kept me stimulated throughout. I don't know what film was seen by the reviewer whom Xianzai quoted in the previous post, because it sure doesn't sound like what I saw. This film had plenty of action--at regular intervals. Plus suspense. Plus comedy. Plus music and songs. Plus drama (including a few tears). All wrapped up in a compelling storyline. Plus exotic locations (primarily China and Thailand). Plus an extraordinarily beautiful leading lady--in a dual role! Plus...and how can you beat this?...Gordon Liu in his biggest role in years. And he's great. Also, this is the first time I've seen Akshay Kumar. What a great action/comedy star he is. I've gotta see more of his films.

It owes a lot to KUNG FU HUSTLE, in terms of its tone and style and carefully blended mix of comedy, stunts, kung fu and drama. Which is fine with me because I loved KFH. If you loved it too I don't see how you can't like this one as well.