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silver hermit
12-06-2008, 08:08 PM
what queen of kick a$$ rules the jade screen?? there is so many different things we could judge this on. martial arts, filmography but acting is not one of them. by no means is this ment to be the be all end all list. just my opinion on what i have seen. i know i opinion might change each time i watch one of their films.

IMO it goes like this
1. yukari oshima- the japanese buzzsaw aka the japanese queen of mean her martial arts skills are the real deal and she does most of her stunts. i could have watched her over and over and never get bored. her brutality is a thing of beauty. her only fault is she should have gone to a dentist. i feel if she was an HK resident she would a lot more big things but i hear her attitude towards others had something to do with it as well.

2. kara hui aka auntie- representing the old school she is no stranger to doing stunts and her on screen fighting is first rate. speed, power and grace are her trademarks. she has done it all even playboy now who else on this list can say that? she could have well been my#1 but was out kicked by yukari by a toe

3. moon lee- her martial arts was learned on set you can see her get better and better as her career went on. she was such a hard worker and fearless on set she gained the respect from her peers the hard way. that earned her the reputation of pound for pound one of the toughest man or woman of the new wave era.

4. sharron yeung pan pan- the old school represents again. she didn't make too many new wave films but her abilliy was undeniable. there wasn't a fight scene or stunt she would pass up. she was a hard worker and not a diva on set and was lucky enough to get into producing films and thats a testament to how she got along with others.

5.to gwai fa- its so easy for her to fly under the radar. her films are not well distributed or big budget but if your lucky enough to see her let off some moves its a thing of beauty and POWER! if this list was just about martial arts she might rank as high as #2 on my list perhaps even higher. but i admit i need to see more from her.

6. michiko nishiwaki- a champion body builder and karate expert when given a chance to shine her moves were the definition of power and grace. like yukari she seems a victim of being from outside of HK. they starved while wantabees like sibelle hu got meaty roles.

7. cynthia rockrock- martial arts champion when teammed with top choreographers such as sammo hung or yuen kwai she looked unstoppable but outside of that not so impressive but there is no way to deny she is a top martial artist. her heart didn't seem to be in HK productions and seemed to be focused on the bright lights of hollywood and she achieved B-movie status there. but when she looks back at her career i'm sure she will agree with me and say her work wasn't done in HK and she had a lot more to do but will never get the chance to.

8. michelle khan- as a former beauty queen and dancer she had the tools to be an HK action icon as she later became the standard all that followed would be measured against. she might very well have the best filmography out of everyone on this list but i could only imagine what each would do in her place as bigger budgets produce better results. in any event she was fearless on set and was a hard worker and gave us some of the most memorable stunts in HK films. who else has or can go toe to toe with jackie chan on screen and still shine?

9. kim maree penn- i don't know where they got this chick but she has put in some of the most impressive performances on screen. she never worked with the yuen kwai's or the sammo's but she did a few films with frankie chan and i could only imagine her working with yuen kwai my dream production would be everyone on this list in a movie co-directed by sammo hung and yuen kwai. with a huge budget and no time frame. i am confident that kim penn would shine as much as anyone in it.

10. cynthia khan- this taiwanese beauty came out of nowhere and took off pretty much where michelle khan left off. she gave us hits like the in the line of duty series and queens high. she put in some decent performances martial arts wise but her moves looked a bit too dancer like. but she worked hard and got better and better each time out. she was doubled a lot but she never gave us memorable stunts like michelle khan.

honorable mention goes to karen sheppard- her toe to toe battles with cynthia rochrock and moon lee are very hard to ignore

let the debate begin :D

billy lo
12-08-2008, 07:50 AM
yukari oshima

thundered mantis
12-08-2008, 11:54 AM
Silver hermit you got all corners pretty well covered here!

For me itīs Yukari all the way, too fast, accurate and crisp powerful. She has the looks and the fierceness, superb. Would love to hear stories about her character, and her relationship with Ko Fei. Are they divorced? Did they had children? It beats to me why she didnīt arrange that tooth, it wouldīve been easy, and sheīs quite pretty.

After her, second level, Iīd go for Sharon Yeung īcause of her superb classic background and her acrobatic ability. Itīs a pity she didnīt quite made it on the GWG era. To Gwa Faiīs got great abilities, but lacks a bit on grace and charisma, and Moon Lee and Kara Hui got loads of both. Been dancers, they have flexibility and rythm for the choreo. Kim Penn is so great sheīs got the whole package.

On a third level, Michelle Yeoh and Rothrock. Would give the edge to Yeoh, I think, for stunts.

Nishiwaki and Kahn on fourth level.

A pity that girl from Treasure Hunters didnīt made much on GWG, she was soo great, and young enough.

Dragon Ma
12-12-2008, 06:01 AM
I think Joyce Godenzi deserves to be mentioned, she was a skillful fighter under Sammo's directed, granted, he could make anyone look good but she had presence, was attractive, her fight against Agnes Aurelio is the stuff of legend, she went toe to toe with Agnes, Joyce also had some great fights in License to Steal against Billy Chow and Agnes again.

Other than that, your list is solid, Yukari has presence to spare, her fighting skills are brilliant, Moon was a terrific fighter, she was also an underrated comic performer.

blue_skies
12-13-2008, 12:00 AM
what queen of kick a$$ rules the jade screen?? there is so many different things we could judge this on. martial arts, filmography but acting is not one of them. by no means is this ment to be the be all end all list. just my opinion on what i have seen. i know i opinion might change each time i watch one of their films.

IMO it goes like this
1. yukari oshima- the japanese buzzsaw aka the japanese queen of mean her martial arts skills are the real deal and she does most of her stunts. i could have watched her over and over and never get bored. her brutality is a thing of beauty. her only fault is she should have gone to a dentist. i feel if she was an HK resident she would a lot more big things but i hear her attitude towards others had something to do with it as well.

2. kara hui aka auntie- representing the old school she is no stranger to doing stunts and her on screen fighting is first rate. speed, power and grace are her trademarks. she has done it all even playboy now who else on this list can say that? she could have well been my#1 but was out kicked by yukari by a toe

3. moon lee- her martial arts was learned on set you can see her get better and better as her career went on. she was such a hard worker and fearless on set she gained the respect from her peers the hard way. that earned her the reputation of pound for pound one of the toughest man or woman of the new wave era.

4. sharron yeung pan pan- the old school represents again. she didn't make too many new wave films but her abilliy was undeniable. there wasn't a fight scene or stunt she would pass up. she was a hard worker and not a diva on set and was lucky enough to get into producing films and thats a testament to how she got along with others.

5.to gwai fa- its so easy for her to fly under the radar. her films are not well distributed or big budget but if your lucky enough to see her let off some moves its a thing of beauty and POWER! if this list was just about martial arts she might rank as high as #2 on my list perhaps even higher. but i admit i need to see more from her.

6. michiko nishiwaki- a champion body builder and karate expert when given a chance to shine her moves were the definition of power and grace. like yukari she seems a victim of being from outside of HK. they starved while wantabees like sibelle hu got meaty roles.

7. cynthia rockrock- martial arts champion when teammed with top choreographers such as sammo hung or yuen kwai she looked unstoppable but outside of that not so impressive but there is no way to deny she is a top martial artist. her heart didn't seem to be in HK productions and seemed to be focused on the bright lights of hollywood and she achieved B-movie status there. but when she looks back at her career i'm sure she will agree with me and say her work wasn't done in HK and she had a lot more to do but will never get the chance to.



9. kim maree penn- i don't know where they got this chick but she has put in some of the most impressive performances on screen. she never worked with the yuen kwai's or the sammo's but she did a few films with frankie chan and i could only imagine her working with yuen kwai my dream production would be everyone on this list in a movie co-directed by sammo hung and yuen kwai. with a huge budget and no time frame. i am confident that kim penn would shine as much as anyone in it.

10. cynthia khan- this taiwanese beauty came out of nowhere and took off pretty much where michelle khan left off. she gave us hits like the in the line of duty series and queens high. she put in some decent performances martial arts wise but her moves looked a bit too dancer like. but she worked hard and got better and better each time out. she was doubled a lot but she never gave us memorable stunts like michelle khan.

honorable mention goes to karen sheppard- her toe to toe battles with cynthia rochrock and moon lee are very hard to ignore

let the debate begin :D


SH any chance of recommending 3 0r 4 of each of these girls best flicks?

silver hermit
12-13-2008, 02:45 AM
I think Joyce Godenzi deserves to be mentioned, she was a skillful fighter under Sammo's directed, granted, he could make anyone look good but she had presence, was attractive, her fight against Agnes Aurelio is the stuff of legend, she went toe to toe with Agnes, Joyce also had some great fights in License to Steal against Billy Chow and Agnes again.

Other than that, your list is solid, Yukari has presence to spare, her fighting skills are brilliant, Moon was a terrific fighter, she was also an underrated comic performer.

i agree joyce godenzi deserves a spot in the conversation for sure!!!

i'll throw Fujimi Nadeki in for an honorable mention for her battle vs moon lee in killer angels and the couple of movies she did with to gwai fa

i'll list my favorite flicks a bit later i want to give every one else a chance to get in on the action graeme noble back me up here :D

odioustrident
12-14-2008, 07:42 AM
I have to say that if Yukari Oshima was not doubled for most of her work in Book of Heroes, then she is definitely the most versatile of the girls with guns stars. Her acrobatics are a cut above everyone else and her kicks can be pretty good.

silver hermit
12-20-2008, 04:09 AM
check out these films but i'm sure others can add to the list

1. yukari oshima- A Book of Heroes, The Millionaires' Express, Angel, Final Run, Burning Ambition, Close Escape, The Outlaw Brothers, Dreaming the Reality, Godfather's Daughter Mafia Blues,Kickboxer's Tears, Story of Ricki, Angel Terminators 2, Beauty Investigator,Drugs Fighters

2. kara hui aka auntie-Naughty Boys,Rosa, The Inspector Wears Skirts, The Dragon Family, Burning Ambition, Bullet to Survive, Widow Warriors, The Real Me ,Angel Terminators

3. moon lee- Angel 1,2 and 3, Killing Angels, The Nocturnal Demon, New Kids in Town, Fatal Termination, The Revenge of Angel, Dreaming the Reality, Bury Me High, Kickboxer's Tears, Beauty Investigator, Angel's Project ,A Serious Shock! Yes Madam!, Angel Terminators 2

4. sharron yeung pan pan-Princess Madam, Angel Terminators, The Way of the Lady Boxers, Deadly Target, Angel on Fire

5.to gwai fa-Fury in Red, All Mighty Gambler, The Plot, Lady Killer, Angel of Vengeance

6. michiko nishiwaki-In the Line of Duty III, Princess Madam, City Cops, The Outlaw Brothers, Widow Warriors, The Dragon Fighter, The Real Me, Hero Dream, Passionate Killing in the Dream, Angel Terminators

7. cynthia rockrock- Yes, Madam!, Righting Wrongs, Magic Crystal, The Millionaires' Express, The Inspector Wears Skirts, City Cops, The Blonde Fury

8. michelle khan- Yes, Madam!, Royal Warriors AKA In the Line of Duty, Magnificent Warriors, Police Story III Super Cop

9. kim maree penn- Live Hard, Middle Man ,Fun And Fury, Police Story III Super Cop, Oh! Yes Sir!!!, How to Meet the Lucky Stars, The Death Games, Black City

10. cynthia khan- In the Line of Duty III, In the Line of Duty 4, Middle Man, Tiger Cage II, Sea Wolves, Queen's High, Forbidden Arsenal, A Serious Shock! Yes Madam!, Blade of Fury

silver hermit
12-28-2008, 01:46 PM
another honorable mention goes out to elaine liu for the angels series, innocent interloper, stone age warriors and for her toe to toe battle with yukari oshima in spiritualy a cop

AlbertV
12-29-2008, 02:14 PM
Don't forget Elaine has a memorable villain performance in Red Wolf with Collin Chou.

I actually corresponded with Kim-Maree Penn years ago. She now runs a bodyguard agency in Hong Kong. Here's her company's website: http://www.signal8security.com/

silver hermit
12-30-2008, 12:31 AM
oh cool, thanks for that link. she still looks damn good and its interesting to see what these ex-stars are doing now. according to that website she seems to have re-located to LA. someone needs to interview her ASAP her story needs to be told she has a lot of fans out here.

Tantheman
12-31-2008, 01:34 PM
Cynthia is my fave just for Above the Law if nothing else. I have a soft spot for Sibelle Hu, she lovely. Pretty good in Inspector Wears Skirts too

AlbertV
01-03-2009, 04:35 AM
i'll throw Fujimi Nadeki in for an honorable mention for her battle vs moon lee in killer angels and the couple of movies she did with to gwai fa


She also was good in Crystal Hunt (as Donnie Yen's girlfriend) IMO

silver hermit
01-03-2009, 04:50 PM
she also has a couple of nice fights in cheetah on fire and lady killer with to gwai fa

thekfc
01-04-2009, 01:30 AM
For me it's Yukari as my top choice.

Though not a GWG movie - CK had a good performance in "Deadend Of Besiegers".

silver hermit
03-19-2009, 03:43 AM
big up rrden for this one
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silver hermit
03-20-2009, 02:49 AM
out of all of them on my list michelle yeoh is the best actress. moon lee i would say had the most juicy roles out of the 3 you mention and that is a big factor in their body of work. yukari is an under rated comic actor as well just check out the big deal. moon and yukari had me laughing out loud. but i would say yukari's best acting role was in Iron Angels. other than that the roles she played were typical.

wrewdedededewdedewdedwed
03-20-2009, 06:48 PM
I really liked Moon Lee. She's really cute but that the same time you know she can kick your ass anytime. The funny thing is, I couldn't remember most of the shows she was in. A pity her acting lacked chops, that might just have made her a bigger star.