Ip Man 2

[Asmo]

How would you rate it compared to the other fight films that came out recently? Of the ones you've seen of course.

Well, I'd say out of the 'recent' films I've only seen Ong Bak 2 and 14 Blades (if that counts). Yeah, I've got a lot of catching up to do.

I'm a Wing Chun practitioner but when it comes to films I'm not biased.

I'd give Ong Bak 2 an 8/10 (maybe a bit higher, but I really need to see Ong Bak 3 to rate it properly, due to the ending).

I'd rate Ip Man 2 higher than the first film but I'm not sure if it has the edge over OB2, pretty close though. Ip Man 2 was familiar territory, as parts of the storyline remind me of other films (but that's natural due to the setting).

14 Blades was more of a wuxia, and as much as I liked it, I liked Ip Man 2 more. My opinion could change after watching either (or both) films again.

[Charuto]

Thanks. Though I thought "14 Blades" was lousy, at least there's the chance that this movie might be better :bigsmile:

[kngfu]

Well, I'd say out of the 'recent' films I've only seen Ong Bak 2 and 14 Blades (if that counts). Yeah, I've got a lot of catching up to do.

I'm a Wing Chun practitioner but when it comes to films I'm not biased.

I'd give Ong Bak 2 an 8/10 (maybe a bit higher, but I really need to see Ong Bak 3 to rate it properly, due to the ending).

I'd rate Ip Man 2 higher than the first film but I'm not sure if it has the edge over OB2, pretty close though. Ip Man 2 was familiar territory, as parts of the storyline remind me of other films (but that's natural due to the setting).

14 Blades was more of a wuxia, and as much as I liked it, I liked Ip Man 2 more. My opinion could change after watching either (or both) films again.


Does Donnie do chain punches or the flurry punching he does in his other films?

[Heywood Jahitme]

Saw this on the big screen and I loved the action. There's more of it than there was in the first, Donnie breaks out the flurry punches all over the place and there's some moments of Sammo brilliance in the choreography.

Although far from overused, I still find the wire use a little distracting, Lo Meng and Fung Hak On have action cameos that are all too brief and Fan Siu Wong doesn't get to do anything other than provide some comic relief. Otherwise top notch stuff.

The story was fairly basic but some light humour sprinkled throughout at least made it entertaining. The acting from Donnie, Sammo and the Chinese cast was fine, but I thought the Western cast's overacting was a weak point. The foreign devil story arc was cringe inducingly overdone and almost turned the movie into a cartoon. A bit of subtlety wouldn't have gone amiss there, especially as Ip Man as a character embodies modesty and subtlety in both movies. Perhaps it was done deliberately to provide a contrast?..

Anyway I thought this was better than 14 Blades and True Legend, both in terms of action and as a movie. I liked it more than Ong Bak 2 (Ip Man 2 has a coherent story, a sense of humour and an ending!) although action wise they are fairly close. Ong Bak 2 doesn't rely on wires, which I like, but the action in Ip Man 2 is so slick. This movie is worth watching just to see Donnie kicking ass to Sammo's choreography.

[fiol]

glad to hear that!
it will be screened tonight in Udine for the FEFF but i cant go so i have to w8 for the dvd to be rlsed.. cant wait!

[WuxiaFan]

I hope that's a good enough review/description, and I hope I didn't spoil too much.

Asmo - no you didn't spoil anything! Thanks for your review! It would LOVE to see this on the big screen, but it will likely be on my 42" screen at home. :wink:

[sifu iron perm]

point me to a good site wherei can order it ?
thank you.

[fiol]

i've been told that it's really like Rocky 4.... not a lot of ppl enjoyed this movie here (in italy) except the donnie/sammo scene... :ooh:

[VenomsFan]

i've been told that it's really like Rocky 4.... not a lot of ppl enjoyed this movie here (in italy) except the donnie/sammo scene... :ooh:

you mean the idea of a chinese master of gung fu set in olden times (down to the black gi) isn't overdone yet?

[fiol]

you mean the idea of a chinese master of gung fu set in olden times (down to the black gi) isn't overdone yet?

dunno i havent watched the film yet so i was just asking :)

[DiP]

'Ip Man 2' Sold $15 Million in First Week

Wilson Yip's martial-arts blockbuster "Ip Man 2" has taken 100 million yuan (US$15 million) in its first week of release at Chinese mainland cinemas, M1905.com reports.

Over 300,000 people watched the film on its opening night on April 27, and ticket sales were close to 9 million yuan ($1.3 million). The distributor said the film also topped the box office over the 3-day May Day holiday.

However, industry observers said that with the releases of "Iron Man 2" and "How to Train Your Dragon" in the Chinese mainland, "Ip Man 2's" goal of grossing 300 million yuan is far from guaranteed.

http://english.cri.cn/6666/2010/05/04/2482s567518.htm

[VenomsFan]

The DVD rip just got released online with english subtitles.

[mrnicejai]

Yeah there's a dvd rip out now but that's the mainland China version in Mandarin. The original dialogue is in Cantonese so that would be the one to wait for. I always prefer to watch the version where the lips matched the dialogue along with the original actors voices.

[sumudrauk]

IP man is very nice movie

[tinlunlau]

i've been told that it's really like Rocky 4.... not a lot of ppl enjoyed this movie here (in italy) except the donnie/sammo scene... :ooh:


*spoiler alert*










The second half of the film is very similar to Rocky IV. Sammo was like Apollo Creed while Donnie Yen was like Rocky Balboa...and we all know what happened to Apollo Creed when he fought Ivan Drago...

[David Rees]

Just seen it and have mixed feelings.
Is it as good as the first film?...No it isnt.
Is it a good film...Of course.
The first half is by far the best with the story continuing nicely and some great fight action.
The 2nd half is like a different film and the comparisons to Rocky 4 are justified.
Its as if the director ran out of ideas half way through and saw the Rocky film and stole the story. And why do western actors in these films all have to be such muppets??
Arnt there any decent western actors in Hong Kong?...The anti western (British) tone i found a bit boring and cliche which wasnt helped by the stilted English dialog.
The Bruce Lee bit at the end was a nice touch, but i think they should end it there as the 2nd half of the film was most likely made up anyway where else can they go with the story?
I might sound a bit harsh, but its still a very good film and worth a watch, Donnie Yen and Sammo excellent as expected, good to see Lo Mang and Fong Hak On again but Fang Siu Wongs role was wasted, he doesnt fight at all.
I will buy the dvd when it gets released thats for sure.

[DiP]

Loved the action (a huge improvement to the original, and along with Donnie's own action directing the best stuff that has been made in Hong Kong these recent years) but they wasted yet another opportunity of fully developing most of the cast. Great performances by Donnie (has really progressed as an actor over these years, respect) and Sammo but more screen-time with everyone could've done the movie justice. Overall, good sequel.

[DiP]

Donnie Yen's Salary Rockets After "Ip Man 2"

Donnie Yen's salary has rocketed to 20 million Yuan ( nearly US $ 3 million) per film following his performance in "Ip Man 2", Chinafilm.com reports.

Yen's salary now exceeds that of Hong Kong superstar Andy Lau and actor Tony Leung, but trails some way behind Jackie Chan's 103 million Yuan (US$ 15 million) and Jet Li's 68 million Yuan (nearly US$ 10 million).

According to the report, investment company Polybona believes there's a good chance that Donnie Yen will take over from Jackie Chan and Jet Li as the new king of kung fu movies.

Donnie Yen was offered US $ 3 million to play the lead role in "Guan Yunchang", a movie about a great general from the historical Chinese novel "Romance of Three Kingdoms".

"With his great performances, he's box office gold and worth every penny of his $ 3 million salary. I'm very interested in working with him," said Daniel Lam, president of Universe International Holdings Limited in Hong Kong.

http://english.cri.cn/6666/2010/05/06/2482s567989.htm

[sifu iron perm]

i got a good download link..am i allowed to post it?

[kngfu]

I really enjoyed the movie, I would love to see more adventures (even if they delved into the fictional side as inthe Wong Fei Hung tales) of Ip Man and the WIng Chun clan.

[bengs]

I saw it last night at the cinema and I thought it was great, nice fighting with some drama to go with it, I have to commend Donnie Yen who gave some believable emotion to his character.. I agree that I thought it turned into Rocky a bit too much later as others have said above.. And yes surely they could have found some better Western actors, they ruin the quality of the film

[daisho2004]

OK I got to watch this last night at work one of my Officers had a copy of it, and I thought it was Off The Hook! But I do have to agree with David Rees review as far as the boxing match went. Did we need it? Maybe but to drag it out at the end of the movie like that, not as long. I think they could came up with a better ending. But it was still great Donnie was Awesome as were all the Actors and the action was fantastic.

[dtix]

Lo Mang is in this movie. Oh Yeeeeeeeeeaaaah!

[June]

david rees +1

[Drunken Monk]

I obtained this last night and I'm excited to watch it over the weekend. Actually, I have both this and "True Legend." I'm all for a good weekend, hopefully!

[nectarsis]

Just seen it and have mixed feelings.
Is it as good as the first film?...No it isnt.
Is it a good film...Of course.
The first half is by far the best with the story continuing nicely and some great fight action.
The 2nd half is like a different film and the comparisons to Rocky 4 are justified.
Its as if the director ran out of ideas half way through and saw the Rocky film and stole the story. And why do western actors in these films all have to be such muppets??
Arnt there any decent western actors in Hong Kong?...The anti western (British) tone i found a bit boring and cliche which wasnt helped by the stilted English dialog.
The Bruce Lee bit at the end was a nice touch, but i think they should end it there as the 2nd half of the film was most likely made up anyway where else can they go with the story?
I might sound a bit harsh, but its still a very good film and worth a watch, Donnie Yen and Sammo excellent as expected, good to see Lo Mang and Fong Hak On again but Fang Siu Wongs role was wasted, he doesnt fight at all.
I will buy the dvd when it gets released thats for sure.


Just finished this..I couldn't have summed it up any better. Great movie with some issues, still going to buy it.

[AlbertV]

Wow!!! Sammo is a real trooper! First, Donnie Yen nearly knocked Sammo Hung out in SPL, now Sammo recently revealed that Darren Shahlavi actually DID knock out Sammo Hung while shooting Ip Man 2!!!

Full story:
http://english.cri.cn/6666/2010/05/06/2482s567987.htm

[LoBo]

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[thehangman]

Saw it today i really liked it alot more action then the first one,would of been nice to see abit more of simon yam tho.

[GwaiLoMoFo]

Most of the reviews I have seen thus far have been very scathing. Here is one: http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ip-man-2-2010-movie-review/

[thehangman]

Anyone know when this will be out on dvd?

[DiP]

Sometime in mid or late June.

[thehangman]

cool i will defo buy it

[Charuto]

This is such a lazy movie. Definitely worse than the first. The boxing fights were just horrible.

[Tigerstyles]

This is such a lazy movie. Definitely worse than the first. The boxing fights were just horrible.



feeling you! not over impressed, the first was great... boxing v Wing Chun zzzz:neutral:

KF competition was good though

[Space]

First two acts were great, it unravels in the third act. Once "king boxer" shows up the movie goes way south, Darren whatshis face is awful (not that I'm a good actor either), same with all the other white actors in the movie. Just like the first one, it suffers from bad stereotyping, but I guess we're used to this. Still, I'm wondering how much longer this will be the norm.

The whole thing takes a very nationalistic turn too, I thought it was a HK production, not a mainland one funded by the Communist government...(was it? Felt like it.)

Having said that, everything before then is awesome, worthy of the first movie, if not better (mainly because it has less wires and fancy editing than last time out). Donnie and Sammo are both great in this movie, Ip Man's character evolves a bit and shows some different sides, I loved Donnie's even more understated and pure performance, compared to the usual hothead characters he plays.

It does redeem itself with the finale somewhat. There's also more fights this time, that was cool.

Fung Hak On also has a side role, very cool, I want to see him get more work.

Watched it in the Mandarin dub, patiently waiting to see it in Cantonese.

[DiP]

The whole thing takes a very nationalistic turn too, I thought it was a HK production, not a mainland one funded by the Communist government...(was it? Felt like it.)

They are HK productions co-financed by Mainland companies.

[mrnicejai]

Darren whatshis face is awful (not that I'm a good actor either), same with all the other white actors in the movie. Just like the first one, it suffers from bad stereotyping, but I guess we're used to this. Still, I'm wondering how much longer this will be the norm.


If you look at mainstream Hollywood movies Asian's are still heavily stereotyped. We're in the U.S. a multicultural society but look at how awfully stereotyped Asians are in Western movies. (Triad boss, thug, enforcer, karate/kung fu sage master, bruce lee wannabe, nerd/scientist/computer genius, import car racing punk etc.. ) Have those roles to changed much? You can say for the most part no. In China/HK films I don't have much hope of it being any different either, especially since they're catering to primarily a non multicultural audience. It's all about identifying with and reaching the target audience and what sells the most tickets.

[Space]

They are HK productions co-financed by Mainland companies.

Mandarin Films, you're right that explains it. I wish they had turned the money down. Oh well.

If you look at mainstream Hollywood movies Asian's are still heavily stereotyped. We're in the U.S. a multicultural society but look at how awfully stereotyped Asians are in Western movies. (Triad boss, thug, enforcer, karate/kung fu sage master, bruce lee wannabe, nerd/scientist/computer genius, import car racing punk etc.. ) Have those roles to changed much? You can say for the most part no. In China/HK films I don't have much hope of it being any different either, especially since they're catering to primarily a non multicultural audience. It's all about identifying with and reaching the target audience and what sells the most tickets.

Too true, but if everybody jumps off a bridge...Hollywood hasn't got much better, everybody is to blame. It just felt extra terrible in Ip Man 2, partially because the acting from the Westerners was awful on top of it.

It's funny that you mentioned Bruce in the stereotype section, he was so adamant about showing the rest of the world something different, non-stereotypical about Chinese culture and people and now he's a stereotype too! :squigglemouth:

[mrnicejai]

^I think it's all about the bottom line identifying with core audience that determines who get's cast, who winds up looking good, or bad etc. Past 10 yrs or so we saw many HK talenst attempt to move from HK over to hollywood. Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Michelle Yao, John Woo, Chow Yun Fat, etc etc. Most all of them have hit the same walls as their Asian American predecessors in the West however so now we're seeing some of them return back to the east since Mainland China is modernizing at a dizzying pace and a new audience is there for their work. With more and more tensions going on in the world between East and West for world wide dominance and influence it's no surprise that movies like IP Man and True Legend will feature the gwailo as the crash dummy. Tapping nationalism in the audience has always been a great money maker.

About the quality of the gwailo actors in Chinese movies...umm I don't think you'll get a very big pool of "good white actors" to work off of in Asia and I don't think these Asian film makers could afford many good Western actors anyway with their relatively small budgets.

[SimonMW]

Westerners have always been terrible at acting in HK films. It doesn't matter to the local audience because the vast majority of them wouldn't be able to tell good English acting from bad. Ip Man 2 isn't really made for westerners.

I'd also like to defend Darren. It is highly doubtful that it was his idea to act OTT. As he commented on the Tai Chi Boxer DVD he was always told to be more and more shouty and ridiculously aggressive even though he wanted to be more subtle. Lets face it, Chinese audiences love the big, brash, arrogant westerner to get the crap kicked out of him.

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[DiP]

'Ip Man 2' Earns US$30 Million

Chinese martial-arts film "Ip Man 2" has raked in 200 million yuan (US$30 million) in the 16 days since its release, M1905.com reports.

A celebration party was held Wednesday in Beijing with director Wilson Yip and lead actors Donnie Yen, Sammo Hung and Louis Fan in attendance.

However, producer An Xiaofen says the film could have earned much more. "Ip Man 2" was leaked online on May 4, one week after its release. The pirated version has attracted more than 10 million clicks. That would amount to 300 million yuan (US$44 million) at the box office, the producer estimated.

An says legal actions have been taken against the Web sites involved.

"Ip Man 2", a biopic about Bruce Lee's mentor, Ip Man, opened in cinemas on April 27 following the success of the 2008 film "Ip Man".

Donnie Yen, who plays the title character, said Wednesday that he is unlikely to continue the role if a third installment is made.

"I don't really want to play Ip Man again, but I know many people want me to continue. I don't want to talk more about this for now."

http://english.cri.cn/6666/2010/05/13/2482s569473.htm

[sifu iron perm]

wasn't impressed..few nice bits but overall quite boring!

The Bruce Lee refernce did give me a smile and made me want to like it more.

[WuxiaFan]

wasn't impressed..few nice bits but overall quite boring!

:khi3f:
I haven't seen it yet, but I don't see how that's possbile from all the action in the trailer.

[Space]

:khi3f:
I haven't seen it yet, but I don't see how that's possbile from all the action in the trailer.

I didn't think it was boring.

[fiol]

In one week ,it's gonna be released on DVD in China (no boot).. i'm waiting for this one :xd:

[mrnicejai]

In one week ,it's gonna be released on DVD in China (no boot).. i'm waiting for this one :xd:

What about Hong Kong's release? I prefer to watch it in the original dialect of Cantonese not dubbed in Mandarin.

[lillippa328]

watched it today....




execllent movie....the first 2/3's (as mentioned) were freaking GREAT!!!!!!!




when the white dude shows up, it does chug a little and feels kinda...forced in a way....almost reminds me of Rocky IV lol.....



but picks up at the end and makes up for it...then the little bonus end was cool as well....



9/10!!! The fight scenes are crazy sweet!!

[Bravery]

watched it today....




execllent movie....the first 2/3's (as mentioned) were freaking GREAT!!!!!!!




when the white dude shows up, it does chug a little and feels kinda...forced in a way....almost reminds me of Rocky IV lol.....



but picks up at the end and makes up for it...then the little bonus end was cool as well....



9/10!!! The fight scenes are crazy sweet!!



Reminded me of Rocky at the end, but when he made his speech. But, taking a cue from Rock isn't a bad thing, I mean he did end the cold war all by himself. I f I can change, and yous can change.

[TigerPaw]

Reminded me of Rocky at the end, but when he made his speech.

Agreed. The fight between Sammo Hung and the Boxer is quite similar to Rocky IV's "Apollo vs Drago" fight in terms of story wise! =)

[lillippa328]

Reminded me of Rocky at the end, but when he made his speech. But, taking a cue from Rock isn't a bad thing, I mean he did end the cold war all by himself. I f I can change, and yous can change.



lmao he did indeed end the cold war!

[Drunken Monk]

Saw this last night and loved it. My wife enjoyed it too but said that it dragged on a little towards the end. I didn’t really feel that way and actually thoroughly enjoyed the boxing versus kung fu fights. I wasn’t impressed with the character development but I didn’t hold back the film at all. The choreography was great and, in places, absolutely mouth watering. Lo Meng as mild comic relief? Yes please!
The only bit I didn’t like was the short scene with Bruce Lee. It felt a little forced.

[shapes]

saw this over the wekend ,
pretty good film I tohught , almost a remake of Prides deadly fury, lked the first half very much but all that boxing fighting got a bit tedious, the western actors were dreadful, surely with that big budget they could have got some proper actors,
Fong Hak An was great thought Lo meng was using the wrong style he should have done mantis.
the HK street sets were great, but best of all was the Baby Bruce.thye should do a film with him
the original kung fu kid
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[froffeecoffee]

A worthy sequel. The last half did kinda of digresses into the 1st with the British taking the place of the Japanese. Still it was really good and the fight scenes were great!

[David Rees]

In some ways superior to the first film at least until the boxer turns up...!!

[fiol]

it's gonna be rlsed in China on blu ray on the 12th of june

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2.jpg

[FeiLong]

it's gonna be rlsed in China on blu ray on the 12th of june

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2.jpg

Hello Fiol, how are you :)

DVD China edition should be available in about 1 week.
DVD will be distributed by De Jin Culture while Blu-ray will be distributed by HEC Hua Lu

[fiol]

Hello Fiol, how are you :)

DVD China edition should be available in about 1 week.
DVD will be distributed by De Jin Culture while Blu-ray will be distributed by HEC Hua Lu

hi there! i'm fine! nice to see u here too!

i hope that the chinese dvd will have cantonese and eng subs , or atleast eng subs only... :angel: (it wont happen, i know xD)

[Asmo]

I know that the Blu Ray is only supposed to have Mandarin audio and Simplified Chinese subtitles. As FeiLong said they're being distributed by different companies so anything could happen, I guess.

[FeiLong]

I know that the Blu Ray is only supposed to have Mandarin audio and Simplified Chinese subtitles. As FeiLong said they're being distributed by different companies so anything could happen, I guess.

Chinese movies in Mainland China have their DVD copyright and Blu-ray copyright sold seperately. Therefore, one title often have different distribtutors for DVD and BD.

As for Ip Man 2, the BD distributor HEC Hua Lu is a great company but the DVD distributor De Jin is not. De Jin's DVDs have a pretty high defective rate.

[FeiLong]

Ip Man 2 DVD5 versions available today. DVD9 edition is coming soon.

DVD5 edition (keep case edition and simple pack edition)
Spec:
Mandarin 5.1 and Mandarin 2.0
with optional Simplified Chinese subtitles
Single-layered disc x 1 (4.35 GB)
Runtime: 1 hour 43 min 23 sec (PAL and Region 0)
Disc SID: IFPI K135 <-- this is the code that marked on inner circle of the disc and is a proof of authorized release.

Extras: 10 mins
Distributor: De Jin Culture

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2dvd5.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2dvd5sp.jpg

[MLee]

As a movie it was enjoyable to watch despite ripping off Rocky 4. I probably still preferred part 1 as I felt the storyline was done better. It's a shame Simon Yam and Terry Fan Sui Wong weren't in more scenes.
The fights were decent but not great. Too many cuts, use of wires and weird angles. When Ip man challenges the 3 fighters on the table some of the exchanges were looking good but then they would cut away to a different angle such as a close up from infront or behind or a shot from above. Why couldn't they use a simple wide shot with longer takes once in a while? I found the end fight with the boxer disappointing.
The scene with the young Bruce Lee did make me smile!
I'll still buy the dvd when it's released.

[fiol]

D9 released in China (official,no boot)
mandarin 5.1/dts/2.0
subs: chi sempl, none
extras: 10min

boxsetD9+D5 (with more than 1hour of extras)

[Asmo]

Chinese movies in Mainland China have their DVD copyright and Blu-ray copyright sold seperately. Therefore, one title often have different distribtutors for DVD and BD.

As for Ip Man 2, the BD distributor HEC Hua Lu is a great company but the DVD distributor De Jin is not. De Jin's DVDs have a pretty high defective rate.

I didn't know that.

I'm going to wait for the HK version with Cantonese audio and English subs, but I hope those who buy the Chinese editions get copies that work properly.

[FeiLong]

Ip Man 2 (2-Disc Edition) (right)

Spec:
Disc #1
Mandarin DTS 5.1, Mandarin 5.1 and Mandarin 2.0
Optional Simplified Chinese subtitles
Anamorphic widescreen
Dual-layered disc 7.43 GB
Runtime: 103 min (PAL / Region All)
Extras: Intro, Making of highlights, Gallery (10 min)
SID: IFPI K156
(The specification printed on cover: DTS-ES, NTSC, Runtime etc are wrong)

Disc #2
Mandarin 2.0 soundtrack
Single-layered disc 4.27 GB
Disc SID: IFPI K191
- Opening ceremony (70 min)
- Behind the scene (9 min)
- Music video (11 min)
- Trailer (3 min)
*******
The 1-Disc DVD9 edition (left) is identical to the Disc #1 in the 2-Disc edition.
********
Picture quality is ok, not sharp enough. Regarding Sound quality, I no longer own a DTS system and cannot test the DTS track and hopefully there's nothing wrong in it. De Jin's product sometimes have problems in PQ and SQ. And the disc defective rate is 1 out of 10 (freeze, skip etc)

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2dvd9.jpg http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2box.jpg

[FeiLong]

Up to this moment (3rd June), Dejin's Ip Man 2, are the only authorized releases in the market. Quality Blu-ray by HEC should be available in 2 weeks.

The SID of Disc 1 in the 2-Disc edition and the SID of the DVD9 edition, both should read IFPI K156. The code might change from lot to lot. For example, if you buy this DVD few months later, the code might change to K158.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/dejinipman2.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2sid.jpg

[FeiLong]

HEC Blu-ray Editions will be available in couple of days..

Standard edition & Ironpack Limited edition

Standard
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2bd.jpg

Ironpack
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipman2bds.jpg

[BlurayStation3]

Still waiting for the HK versions...

Although, I may get the Dejin 2-disc dvd if there's not going to be any mainland 3-disc version this time.

[mark187]

http://www.yesasia.com/us/ip-man-2-dvd-hong-kong-version/1022762624-0-0-0-en/info.html

HK dvd and Bluray releasing on June 25th!!

[kingofkungfu2002]

Thanks for the heads up...Just ordered the 2-Disc Special Edition :bigsmile:

[Asmo]

DDDHouse says it comes out on the 18th (the Bluray only, the DVD is listed as coming out on the 25th).
http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=10965

[David Rees]

Great news...i wonder if the Blu ray will be region free...
.


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[BlurayStation3]

Looks like there will be a HK Bluray Ip Man 1 + 2 boxset:

http://www.yesasia.com/us/ip-man-1-2-blu-ray-hong-kong-version/1022799947-0-0-0-en/info.html

[helios]

Am I the only one that was disappointed with this? I thought the first film was far superior. I didn't find the fights nearly as exciting, and the boxer was horrendous. There was WAY too much wire work, with some of it looking incredibly cheesy. Also agree with the person a few posts earlier about the cuts and weird angles..not good at all. I actually found the "behind the scenes" footage of some fights more enjoyable than the fights from the movie. I still found the movie very enjoyable, but I had high expectations that weren't met.

[Space]

I actually found the "behind the scenes" footage of some fights more enjoyable than the fights from the movie.

I agree with this, I remember watching those clips before the movie came out and they showed uncut footage from the fish market and table fight that were better than in the movie because the camera was further back and there wasn't any editing getting in the way.

Can't say I like some of the MTV-style editing and angle choices we've been seeing in some movies these days.

[HAZ]

Will anyone be going to NYAFF to see Ip Man 2? Sammo will be at the screenings!

[IgaNinja]

I loved Ip Man 2,it was alot more fast paced and action packed then the first,altho the english foreigners are always portrayed as loud mouthed and such i could overlook the cheese that was sprinkled in those areas. Sammo is in great form aswell. Over all I really enjoyed it,but as a whole I enjoyed Ip Man 1 alot more.

[make believe]

Will anyone be going to NYAFF to see Ip Man 2? Sammo will be at the screenings!

I would like to but I'm not sure I'll actually be able to make it as much as I would love to see Sammo and maybe challenge him to a fight. I wish there were more than 2 showings of it.

More than likely I'll just end up picking up the Universe DVD of it when it comes out.

[Monk Sante]

Will anyone be going to NYAFF to see Ip Man 2? Sammo will be at the screenings!

Yes, I'll be there as well! Can't wait to see Sammo! :xd:

[ccaraballo]

IMO, I was pretty disappointed with IP MAN 2. Although I enjoyed watching the movie, I didn't like the second half of the movie too much. When IP MAN 1 came out, I was in love with the movie and tried to force a lot of my friends and family to watch it. It was a movie that I could literally watch ten times before I got a bit tired of it. The story line and action really took my breathe away.

However, IP MAN 2 is a movie that I could only fully enjoy watching it once or maybe twice. In fact, I tried to watch it again last night and turned it off at the midway point. I think Donnie Yen is bad ass and he should make more movies like this where he is displaying his pure martial art skills. I love martial arts movies, but I truly hate movies with a lot of sci fi fighting and crazy wire tricks. Is Donnie Yen making any contemporary pure fighting movies similar to what Jackie Chan and Jet Li did when they first broke out in the USA? Jackie Chan has turned more into a comedian now due to his age I guess and the last Jet Li movie I really enjoyed was Fist of Legend.

Don't get me wrong... IP MAN 2 was a really good movie but I thought IP MAN 1 was borderline epic and I guess the ultra high expectations of the sequel were unrealistic.

[daisho2004]

I'm going to try to make it there. I would love to see Sammo and try and get a pic with him. But there is also a Korean movie that I want to attend also. Thank Goodness I live in NY!

[make believe]

I would like to go but one of the main things keeping me from going is that it will be super crowded and be this big project where you will have to wait on line for hours if you want a halfway decent seat. I've never been to a festival like this so have no idea how packed they get, if at all.

[gfanikf]

Will anyone be going to NYAFF to see Ip Man 2? Sammo will be at the screenings!

I'll be there June 27th!

[alicelee]

I heard it will be released on 25 Jun in HK. Great news that it is a Region All DVD.

http://sensasian.com/images/products/V21770-D.jpg (http://sensasian.com/product.php/en/V21770-D)

[WuxiaFan]

Yesasia will be releasing a box set of IP MAN 1 & 2, both will be the 2-Disc Special Editions by Universe Laser (HK). All of the special features on disc 2 of both sets are subtitled in English:

http://www.yesasia.com/us/ip-man-1-ip-man-2-2-disc-edition-dvd-hong-kong-version/1022831909-0-0-0-en/info.html

DDDHouse also has both editions, but not in a box set. However, their prices are cheaper for the 2-disc editions:

IP MAN 1:
http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=9335

IP MAN 2:
http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=10966

IMO, Universe has done an excellent job with IP MAN. The transfers are flawless and the subs are well written and easy to read. The DVD menus are dual language and they are region 0 to boot! Both sites list June 25, 2010 as the release date! :smile:

[make believe]

Hopefully Chinatown has these this weekend.

[FeiLong]

Ip Man 2 (Ironpack BD) Specification:
Soundtracks: Mandarin DTS 5.1, Mandarin DD 5.1, Mandarin Dolby TrueHD 5.1, Mandarin LPCM 7.1
Subtitles: Simplified Chinese (optional)
Disc capacity: 46.6 GB
Runtime: 1 hour 47 min 49 sec
SID: IFPI X431 (Sony DADC)

Extras:
Making of (12 min 52 sec)
Actors/Actresses interviews (1 hour 30 min 58 sec)
Trailer (2 min 32 sec)
Region Free / MPEG-4 AVC / Anamorphic Widescreen

Pictures:

Front:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/yewen2bdip01.jpg

Back
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/yewen2bdip02.jpg

Inside
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/yewen2bdip03.jpg

[FeiLong]

Yesasia will be releasing a box set of IP MAN 1 & 2, both will be the 2-Disc Special Editions by Universe Laser (HK). All of the special features on disc 2 of both sets are subtitled in English:

http://www.yesasia.com/us/ip-man-1-ip-man-2-2-disc-edition-dvd-hong-kong-version/1022831909-0-0-0-en/info.html

DDDHouse also has both editions, but not in a box set. However, their prices are cheaper for the 2-disc editions:

IP MAN 1:
http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=9335

IP MAN 2:
http://www.dddhouse.com/v3/product_details.php?ProductID=10966

IMO, Universe has done an excellent job with IP MAN. The transfers are flawless and the subs are well written and easy to read. The DVD menus are dual language and they are region 0 to boot! Both sites list June 25, 2010 as the release date! :smile:

For Ip Man (I), I think Hong Kong release is terrible. The color is over-saturated. The China 3-disc editions is the best in Picture Quality and extras so far, the picture quality even superior to UK blu-ray, UK DVD, Taiwanese Blu-ray, Taiwanese DVD, Hong Kong DVD, Korean DVD, Thai DVD, Singapore DVD etc.

Here is the out of print 3-Disc China Ip Man:
http://www.gouduo.com/ware_11049.html

Top: Hong Kong edition vs bottom China 3-Disc edition (cap by PowerDVD 6 at default settings)

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/r3ipman02.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/r6ipman02.jpg

And here are Thai edition (top) vs China 3-Disc edition (bottom), (cap by PowerDVD 9 at default settings with auto picture enhancement)

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipmanr3thai.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/FeiLong_01/ipmanr63disc.jpg

[BlurayStation3]

I have the 3-disc Ip Man (1). It's pretty good, but too bad it only has the Mandarin dub.

[OpiumKungFuCracker]

I want to get the ironpack so bad but I can't read Chinese on that website... Is there another site that sells this and is in English??

[WuxiaFan]

For Ip Man (I), I think Hong Kong release is terrible. The color is over-saturated. The China 3-disc editions is the best in Picture Quality and extras so far, the picture quality even superior to UK blu-ray, UK DVD, Taiwanese Blu-ray, Taiwanese DVD, Hong Kong DVD, Korean DVD, Thai DVD, Singapore DVD etc.

The China 3-disc editions don't have English subs nor are the special features English subtitled, so as someone who doesn't read or speak Chinese, I don't give a shit about those versions. :tinysmile_angry2_t:

As far as your screen caps, I think the differences are marginal at best. I put my IP MAN disc in my Oppo DVD player and stopped it at those scenes and the colors are not over-saturated. In fact, they look as clear as your China edition screen caps. So, I don't know if you have a piece of crap DVD player, piece of crap TV, or piece of crap computer, the HK version looks flawless on my system. Even older discs I have by Universe Laser look good. :squigglemouth:

[FeiLong]

The China 3-disc editions don't have English subs nor are the special features English subtitled, so as someone who doesn't read or speak Chinese, I don't give a shit about those versions. :tinysmile_angry2_t:

As far as your screen caps, I think the differences are marginal at best. I put my IP MAN disc in my Oppo DVD player and stopped it at those scenes and the colors are not over-saturated. In fact, they look as clear as your China edition screen caps. So, I don't know if you have a piece of crap DVD player, piece of crap TV, or piece of crap computer, the HK version looks flawless on my system. Even older discs I have by Universe Laser look good. :squigglemouth:

that's because you only own a terrible release yourself and you have nothing else to compare with. you don't even realize how bad Universe DVDs are.. Universe DVDs from hong kong are notoriuos for it's unstable quality.

[WuxiaFan]

that's because you only own a terrible release yourself and you have nothing else to compare with. you don't even realize how bad Universe DVDs are.. Universe DVDs from hong kong are notoriuos for it's unstable quality.

I compared the image from my Universe DVD to your screen caps...
:khi3f:

[make believe]

that's because you only own a terrible release yourself and you have nothing else to compare with. you don't even realize how bad Universe DVDs are.. Universe DVDs from hong kong are notoriuos for it's unstable quality.

it seems the Thai version is the best if you want to get picky about it. You're right though, the 3 disc version looks 'slightly' better than the Hong Kong version but I wouldn't say it looks that much better either. I have the Universe disc and it's fine. No need to hate on it.

[OpiumKungFuCracker]

Any word on that ironcase bluray edition??? Is it in English or on any of the retail sites for sale that is in English???

[FeiLong]

it seems the Thai version is the best if you want to get picky about it. You're right though, the 3 disc version looks 'slightly' better than the Hong Kong version but I wouldn't say it looks that much better either. I have the Universe disc and it's fine. No need to hate on it.

you shouldn't hate the Universe disc at all because that's the only version you can get.
if you like the thai version, i can give it to you for free. :)

[Gaijin84]

Will anyone be going to NYAFF to see Ip Man 2? Sammo will be at the screenings!

Just got back from the screening tonight. Both Sammo and Simon Yam were there at the beginning for about 10 min before they were being taken to the airport. :squigglemouth: No autographs again, but a quick thanks and couple funny anecdotes from the film.

I really liked the film, but I have to put it slightly below part 1. All the criticism regarding the boxer and near-propaganda regarding the British are justified. It got to be a little much and I found myself dreading the lines that any of the western actors were about to deliver. You could tell they'd be horrendous and for the most part they were. Donnie and Sammo's fight was excellent, lived up to the expectations I had going into it. I think it's really hard to show Western Boxing vs Wing Chun (or any kung fu style) because they are so different. IMHO, boxing doesn't have fluid motion that you need for great choreography. In that regards the final match is a bit of a let down.

Apologies for not knowing a lot about Wong Leung, but did anyone else think that it was actually Bruce Lee when they first introduced his character? He looks a bit like him and had the same mannerisms. It almost felt like an intentional trick.

[Asmo]

Yeah, Wong Leung did seem a lot more like Bruce than Wong Shun Leung.

[WuxiaFan]

I really liked the film, but I have to put it slightly below part 1. All the criticism regarding the boxer and near-propaganda regarding the British are justified. It got to be a little much and I found myself dreading the lines that any of the western actors were about to deliver. You could tell they'd be horrendous and for the most part they were. Donnie and Sammo's fight was excellent, lived up to the expectations I had going into it. I think it's really hard to show Western Boxing vs Wing Chun (or any kung fu style) because they are so different. IMHO, boxing doesn't have fluid motion that you need for great choreography. In that regards the final match is a bit of a let down.

Couldn't agree with you more on every point you made above. I loved the film up until the first boxing match. I thought the fish market fight was just awesome, but I was hoping Ip Man would have really injured a lot of Sammo's disciples. I was also hoping Ip Man would have picked up a different weapon than the twin swords, as I knew he was going to slice anyone open. I wanted to see him use the bow staff again to clean up. I did love Sammo's entrance into the fish market. He was very bad ass, as he should be. Sammo was also bad ass at Ip Man's "challenge of the masters". I did love the Sammo/Donnie fight - it was awesome, but I would loved to have seen more fights with other masters. :rolleyes:

Where I started to loose faith in Sammo was seeing how the he let the British walk all over him. Then when he squared off against Twister and started getting his ass kicked, I was let down. I would have liked to have seen Sammo give Twister a run for his money, as Sammo was supposed to have been the leader of all of the martial art masters, thus he was the baddest. He should not have gotten beat up that bad and that quickly. So, I was disappointed in how that played out. :cool:

The rest of the story became predictable after that. Without spoiling the movie, we know that Ip Man comes back to challenge twister. Again, I agree with Gaijin that western boxing vs. kung fu just doesn't translate that well. However, I thought that fight was much better than the fight with Sammo. The whole Sammo-vs-Twister, then Ip Man-vs-Twister was similar to ROCKY IV, but that's about it. There wasn't this extensive training scene with Donnie and Ip Man and Sammo weren't really friends before the match, so I really didn't take it that it was a rip from ROCKY IV. :squigglemouth:

The fight scenes in IP MAN (1) was just phenominal compared to those in #2. Maybe it was because there wasn't any western boxing. But in FEARLESS, the two fights with Jet Li against the wrestlers worked well with all of the other fight scenes. To me, it just was anti-climatic and a let down. But overall, I really liked it and I'll watch it many more times, just as I have with IP MAN (1). :smile:

Apologies for not knowing a lot about Wong Leung, but did anyone else think that it was actually Bruce Lee when they first introduced his character? He looks a bit like him and had the same mannerisms. It almost felt like an intentional trick.

Also agree with you here. Felt the same way. To me, they could have waited until #3 to introduce Bruce. Speaking of #3, after seeing Donnie play Ip Man superbly for 2 films, I can't see anyone else in the role. If Donnie doesn't return for #3, it won't be the same. Donnie is now Ip Man.
:yociexp14:

[Poelie]

Unfortunately part 2 is by far the lesser movie. I really like Donnie Yen's performance but the Westerners are indeed horrible (why oh why can't they hire better actors and write better dialogue) and the story isn't that great.
Oh and Sammo is as always a joy to watch, but boy does he have an ugly kid...

[HAZ]

The English actors really over-acted. Their lines sent in the auddiene into hysterics. The movie could have used less WWE type stuff & more class. Near the end, I kept think about Fearless, which handled similar stuff in a much better way. Ip Man 2 was still fun, but it wasn't as good as the first. People keep calling it Rocky IV. One guy in the crowd at Fantasia yelled out "Adrian!"

[SimonMW]

I liked the film. The Wing Chun was better and more fluid than the first. I also disagree that Kung Fu and boxing are not a good match. If ever there was a good fighting method to pitch against wing chun it would be boxing. What let it down and what contributes to the reason only bother to wath up to the masters matches on reruns is the awful acting and lines from the westerners.

[BaronK]

I don't think straight boxing and wing chun are a good match. Kickboxing and wing chun match up better imo. Wing chun and boxing(with gloves) in a ring match, match up even worse imo.
Ring type fights are born with limitaions but can overcome them(Undisputed 2 & 3).
There was nothing fluid about anything in the first movie. This was shot so differently, it couldn't help but be helped by that.
The ring fights seemed to be shot to tell a story of them being beaten down and getting the audience to feel for Sammo and Don, rather than be about dope fights between the 3. It wasn't about hung ga, wc or boxing and how they go against each other and counters and such. It was Rocky.

[Bronx Rican]

People keep calling it Rocky IV.

I just got home from work, where a co-worker who'd seen "2" told me pretty much the same: it was a lot like Rocky IV. Shame about the apparent issues, but I'm fairly hyped to see this when I get the chance.

[Monk Sante]

I just got home from work, where a co-worker who'd seen "2" told me pretty much the same: it was a lot like Rocky IV. Shame about the apparent issues, but I'm fairly hyped to see this when I get the chance.

Yup a little cheesy....but awesome fight scenes.

[The Amazing Psycho Per]

I don't know if you guys ever watched the interview with Darren Shahlavi in the HKL version of Tai Chi Boxer... He comments his overacting in the movie. He doesn't pretend to be a good actor, but that's not how he came in to play the role. It was YWP who kept asking him act this way, to exagerate more, thus to overact. And it's most probably what happened in IM 2 also... That's how the directors want them to act. Have you guys never watched a HK film? Overacting isn't new over there...

Plus, I don't see how the last fight in Ip Man is that much better then the one in Ip Man 2... To each is own, but I thought this one was better. It took itself a lot less seriously and it kicked more asses.

[DiP]

Apart from the foreigners' acting, I thought the second half was as engaging. It may be inspired by another movie but the built-up was great on its own and things as well as emotions and intensity were executed and grasped respectively distinctly.

[SimonMW]

What got me about the end fight was that if it had been on the street Ip Man would have his ass handed to him!

[FeiLong]

the fight scenes are exaggerated.
too many "Wired Works" (using wires and pulleys).
it's a mix of Kung Fu and Sci-Fi.

[Daigoro]

Does anyone know how old Bruce Lee was when he met Ip Man, or how long he studied under Ip Man? I was under the
impression Bruce met Ip man in his formulative young adult years, but in the movie Ip Man they have Bruce Lee meeting
him around the age of 6. This leads me to believe they not only plan to make a statement that Bruce Lee studied under
Ip man for years and years, but in the process ''take'' the opportunity to create another larger than life LEGEND out of Ip
man that he probably does not deserve. In the films they make him out to be some sort of larger than life historical hero.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1392/ipman2b1.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3039/ipman2b2.jpg

[Space]

What got me about the end fight was that if it had been on the street Ip Man would have his ass handed to him!

Heh, well in real life most boxers would eat a Wing Chun-only guy alive.

I guess it's really not about the fight, but Ip Man's attitudes about life that make his character great.

Daigoro, Bruce started at age 13 with Ip Man in 1954.

[dyenboy]

finally got around to see this and man you all were right about the westerners. They were absolutely horride..

As for the action, top notch once again and yes it was surprising to have sammo hung be beaten up that fast, which doesn't make sense cause he was suppose to be master of the masters..

except for the westerners..this was a really good sequel..

[kaleyboy]

In the films they make him out to be some sort of larger than life historical hero.
I've no idea when they met, but for sure BL only studied later in life. However, it's just artistic license. A nice little caveat at the end of the movie that might segway into a third film. As for realistic portrayals of folk heroes, I don't see much historical accuracy in Robin Hood movies, King Arthur movies, etc. No reason why chinese folk heroes can't be trated likewise.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Pretty disappointed with this. I liked part 1, rate it 7/10, but part 2 only gets a 5/10. The story is very boring. The first few fights are impressive, but then get repetitive. And I don’t know what they were thinking with the wirework. It looks so stupid.

[BLfan]

Looks like the UK fans will get a chance to own the film from 28th March 2011.

http://www.cine-asia.co.uk/IP-Man-2-DVD/198/
http://www.cine-asia.co.uk/IP-Man-2-Blu-Ray-DVD/199/

[slinky]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810190842/video/23284144
Was looking at movies and saw this is now there. :tongue: Just fyi...For US peoples.
Has release date as: January 28, 2011

[Space]

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810190842/video/23284144
Was looking at movies and saw this is now there. :tongue: Just fyi...For US peoples.
Has release date as: January 28, 2011

I might just have to watch this in theaters since it's subbed and uncut, according to the trailer.

[OpiumKungFuCracker]

Sweet, love watching this one at the theaters with a big crowd.. Makes the movie even better...

[T-Bag]

I actually enjoyed this film, IM1 was certainly the better of the two but this was not without it's charm. I try to see past the "that could never happen in real life" mindset and enjoy films for what they are...which is stories. This one was action packed, touching, funny and inspiring..just what i look for in a good Kung Fu film.

[blue_skies]

UK DVD released on March 7, 2011.

[BLfan]

I hope the cineasia website is incorrect and cantonese language is provided instead of mandarin on the UK release.

[BLfan]

The audio details have been corrected.

Thank you for bringing that to my attention – The audio on the DVD & Blu-Ray is the original Cantonese – And I am happy to say having now checked that the Sleeve and screens also state Cantonese – This error is only on the website and the chap responsible for adding the new release info has now corrected it.

Kind regards

Steve

[DiP]

Comparison between HK and UK DVDs.

http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5858

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

Was anyone else a bit surprised when Jackie Chiles aka Kramer's lawyer aka Phil Morris turned up on the Cineasia extras talking about Wing Chun..... I sure was:ooh:

But it was actually a really interesting feature.

[Space]

Was anyone else a bit surprised when Jackie Chiles aka Kramer's lawyer aka Phil Morris turned up on the Cineasia extras talking about Wing Chun..... I sure was:ooh:

But it was actually a really interesting feature.

Huh? Wha?

"Who told you to put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on in! You even know what a balm is?!"

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

I know the maestro didn't tell you to put the balm on.... he isn't here!

[OpiumKungFuCracker]

Just got the Well Go USA bluray edition of this movie and I must forewarned you guys that the English Dubbing is an abomination... Do they not know they're being recorded in the studio?? Was it a monday or something, Jesus Fucking Christ put some passion into the voice over acting please!!!

[Lionclaw]

I've been trying to get around to buying the well go version of this movie but I've been hearing a scene was cut. The scene in the trailer where Ip Man chops up those two students at the market is what I'm referring to. Can anyone tell me if the scene is still in or not because I loved that part and it would be a shame if they cut it from the dvd?

[bigrogie]

Just got the Well Go USA bluray edition of this movie and I must forewarned you guys that the English Dubbing is an abomination... Do they not know they're being recorded in the studio?? Was it a monday or something, Jesus Fucking Christ put some passion into the voice over acting please!!!

Too bad. I was looking forward to see a good English dub of this!

[massa_yoda]

I've been trying to get around to buying the well go version of this movie but I've been hearing a scene was cut. The scene in the trailer where Ip Man chops up those two students at the market is what I'm referring to. Can anyone tell me if the scene is still in or not because I loved that part and it would be a shame if they cut it from the dvd?

It's not! I forgot about this part in the trailer until you brought it up. I went back and watched it and it isn't there. They have the original trailer that shows it and even a behind the scene feature that shows it, but it's not in the movie! Why, WHY would they cut that out? It was so awesome.

[reason108]

I did not see any difference between the Wellgo US blue-ray and the Chinese version. The fish market fight is the same in both.

[froffeecoffee]

It's not! I forgot about this part in the trailer until you brought it up. I went back and watched it and it isn't there. They have the original trailer that shows it and even a behind the scene feature that shows it, but it's not in the movie! Why, WHY would they cut that out? It was so awesome.

Is it possible the scene was filmed, but never used in the final cut. U.S. Movies do this all the time. In the original trailer for The Dark Knight, the Tumbler is driving in the secret lair, but it wasn't in the movie.

I did not see any difference between the Wellgo US blue-ray and the Chinese version. The fish market fight is the same in both.

Yes, it is the same.

My question is, was the scene ever used in another version?

[bamboo spear]

Just finally got around to watching this today, and really liked it. Sure the Westerners were portrayed in their usual Kung Fu movie manner, but at least they paid boxers their dues. Without kicks, knees, elbows, throws, holds, pins, chokes or striking prohibited areas, I don't think any of those guys would have been able to last a few rounds with a powerful, fast, precise boxer. Props.

And I was hoping that the dojo-basher from the first film would get to fight, since he was my favorite part of that film, but I liked his character arc, and seeing that his pupil was "going Anakin" in the same way. All-in-all, very good. I was skeptical because I had been burned by the "Return of Chen Zhen" movies, which I hated, but Ip Man is now in my Fist of Legend/Fearless category.

[blue_skies]

I finally got around to seeing this last night and thought it was a good film but really paled in comparison to the original in every respect. Ip Man's biggest strength in my opinion was its gripping story, the sequel just didn't have remotely near the same impact. I was left thinking that it reminded me quite a bit of Fist of Legend and Legend Of A Fighter except that it just kind of felt racist and definitely wasn't in the same league as either movie.

I also didn't think a lot of most of the fights particularly the end against the boxer. that certainly wasn't a thrilling finale by any stretch of the imagination. I liked most of the parts with Sammo but could've done without the wire work . It's funny in the first film I thought Donnie Yen was too good and you never felt like he was going to lose. In this film in the finale I didn't doubt for a second he would beat the boxer but I just thought he didn't look as good, like they were trying to build the tension to make out it was going to be a tougher fight than it was. I also wasn't keen on all of the tight camerawork during the fights.


As I said it was a good film but to me was quite a disappointment. Also what was the point in bringing back Fan Sui Wong after a brilliant performance in the first film, to not even use in any martial arts scenes? I kept waiting and hoping to see something, anything from him. But nada.

[Phoenix]

For me personally, this was an extremely disappointing film especially when compared to the first. It seems rushed - in writing and choreography. Can't picture myself ever watching it again, no redeeming factors.


Also, I completely agree about Fan Siu Wong's role- one of the best modern day screen fighters and they completely wasted him, it was great seeing him get along with Ip Man after their conflicts in the first film, but no fighting together...

Possible spoiler, but the kid who played a young legend-to-be was made to completely overdo his performance, it was rediculous and about as subtle as a knee to the groin.

[ShaOW!linDude]

Possible spoiler, but the kid who played a young legend-to-be was made to completely overdo his performance, it was rediculous and about as subtle as a knee to the groin.

I frown at you contemptuously as I thumb my nose at your remark.:tongue:

[The Dragon]

For me personally, this was an extremely disappointing film especially when compared to the first...

Possible spoiler, but the kid who played a young legend-to-be was made to completely overdo his performance, it was ridiculous and about as subtle as a knee to the groin.

Possible Spoiler:

I agree with both points... Regarding your last point- I've never seen a kid in film made to look exactly like him. Should have been cast in "The Family" film; Bruce Lee: My Brother.

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[Phoenix]

I frown at you contemptuously as I thumb my nose at your remark.:tongue:



I do my best Sammo / Fat Dragon impression and put on some shades. I agree with The Dragon, the kid did look good for the role, it's just what they made him do, it was more suited to a Kung Fu Kids film.

[Res]

This film could lose a lot of criticism if it wasn't so far off from Ip Man's actual life. It would've been better served as a stand alone movie about a fictional character because, basically, that's what it is.

In regards to what you guys are saying about the kid who overdoes the portrayal Bruce, however briefly, I actually find it to be a refreshing nod to him. However, if you want to discuss overportrayal than how about the idot actor who plays the westerner? That guy was horrible and an absolute embarrassment. Btw, this sentiment may be because I am an American who saw the film upon it's release in China. Imagine, seeing this westerner, I can't even remember if he was supposed to be an Englishman because the guy's accent was additionaly horrifying, mouthing off and going overboard in every scene. The audience was getting royally annoyed and I was the only westerner in the entire theater. Dang, dude, shut up! I don't wanna get my butt kicked here!

But seriously, good fictional film.

[DiP]

The Ip Man movies fall somewhere between fiction and true historical events so they should be either semi-biopics, mythical biopics or both. Info on the definition of the word "biopic" here: http://www.froginawell.com/whatsabiopic.html

Here's info on Yip Man's life which may give out hints of what's true and untrue in the movies: http://www.wingchun.si/yipman.htm

[Jay Stone]

This film could lose a lot of criticism if it wasn't so far off from Ip Man's actual life. It would've been better served as a stand alone movie about a fictional character because, basically, that's what it is.

In regards to what you guys are saying about the kid who overdoes the portrayal Bruce, however briefly, I actually find it to be a refreshing nod to him. However, if you want to discuss overportrayal than how about the idot actor who plays the westerner? That guy was horrible and an absolute embarrassment. Btw, this sentiment may be because I am an American who saw the film upon it's release in China. Imagine, seeing this westerner, I can't even remember if he was supposed to be an Englishman because the guy's accent was additionaly horrifying, mouthing off and going overboard in every scene. The audience was getting royally annoyed and I was the only westerner in the entire theater. Dang, dude, shut up! I don't wanna get my butt kicked here!

But seriously, good fictional film.

Darren Shalavi was the guy who played the western villain. And if you've ever seen Bloodmoon, the movie directed by (the other, other) Tony Leung, you'd think his performance in Ip Man 2 was Oscar worthy!

[Dravenbran]

I loved both Ip Man movies, but the 1st was a true masterpiece!!