High Kick Girl (2009)

[AlbertV]

I saw the poster and trailer for this new martial arts film.

The star, 17-year old Rina Takeda, is a black-belt in karate. The plot is pretty standard, a young woman trains in karate and takes on a group of secret fighters with the help of her sensei. The film is directed by Fuyuhiko Nishi, whose previous screen work includes Kura-Obi and the Hollywood action film Honor.

http://ihazabucket.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/highkickgirlbanner.jpg

Teaser trailer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lZjLCZ4xFk

[niro]

I'm not a fan of karate but Japanese films are always good, so might give this a viewing when it comes out

[Rebornman]

is it just my pc or is Albert's post blank??

[blue_skies]

there's a short discription, artwork and a trailer ,of which the trailer seems to be missing.:l

[AlbertV]

Ok, I was able to find another pic from the movie plus I just added the link to the teaser trailer via Youtube :) Sorry about that guys, I thought it would come out.

[Chinatown Kid]

If this film is anywhere near as good as Kura-Obi then it will be worth seeing. Black Belt was a class film.....

[blue_skies]

I hope HKG has lots of action and not too many one kick take downs, but looks worth trying at some point.

[NuLL]

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Second trailer for the movie. The fighting kinda looks lame.
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[AlbertV]

Yeha but I like how Rina kinda does the Tony Jaa-like spinning kick to the karate guy near the end of the trailer. Should be a fun film to watch.

Wish I still had my Shin Karate Baka Ichidai DVDs though :(

[NuLL]

True. There are some good-looking fights in there.
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[Kaal]

I'm not a fan of Japanese films but karate is always good, so might give this a viewing when it comes out

;)

[emacs]

i wonder if this film will be screened at the Toronto International Film Festival later this year (Sept. 10 - 19, 2009).

[KUNG FU BOB]

Wish I still had my Shin Karate Baka Ichidai DVDs though :(

What're they Albert?

[AlbertV]

They were two V-Cinema karate films I had on DVD and they starred Masaru Nagai (Mirai Sentai Time Ranger) as a karate expert. In the first film, he enters a tournament run by the Yakuza to make some money and ends up taking on Masa Funaki in the finale. The Yakuza are so pissed that in Part 2, they beat the expert's best buddy up but in the meantime, the expert learns a thing or two about the true nature of Japanese martial arts by sparring with a judo expert (Rikiya Yasuoka) who was an old friend of his father's. In the finale, he takes on the Yakuza enforcer, played by wrestling legend Keiji Muto, aka The Great Muta and Shining Wizard.

Shot on video but pretty good IMO. The fights kind of remind me of the fights seen here a bit in High Kick Girl.

[KUNG FU BOB]

They were two V-Cinema karate films I had on DVD and they starred Masaru Nagai (Mirai Sentai Time Ranger) as a karate expert.

Thanks for the info Albert! They sound like fun.

[Jiu-Jitsu-Dragon]

judging from the trailer the title certainly isnt misleading

[vismistananda]

Japanese Martial Arts Film are nice to watch.

Is Rina Takeda her true name?
Or just her name in the movie?

[AlbertV]

Rina Takeda is the actress who is playing the High Kick Girl. Not sure what her character name is.

[Gaijin84]

is that Megumi Fujii in that one part? (black halter top)

[vismistananda]

Rina Takeda is the actress who is playing the High Kick Girl. Not sure what her character name is.

I see, thanks mate. I was searching her true name but couldn\'t get any luck.

I hope they released this film on my country.
:)

[blue_skies]

I just watched High Kick Girl on you tube and have to say that I would have been so pissed if I had bought the DVD. It's an absolutely awful movie and even though I knew there with going to be plenty of slow motion and doubled takes ,but the whole movie is practically in slow-motion. I really can't understand why they did that? It would make more sense to use it sparingly on a really special move but they were doing it with any old rubbish. And don't get me started on on the double takes when we had just seen a move in slow-motion then a double take. The mind boggles what they were thinking.

Practically High Kick Girl is half a movie with the other half taken over by a ridiculously long slow-motion sequences. I reckon if they took 99 per cent of the slow-motion and double takes out of the movie and all the fight sequences were shown at regular pace the movie would be between 35 and 45 minutes long roughly. I also think it would have been far more enjoyable rather than the dross it clearly is. That 's the frustration you can see there's some good stuff they just ruined in slow motion.

I have to say I don't think it's worth watching unless the film was released again with all the fights and action at the correct speed. Ok it would be over before you know it but it would certainly be a more satisfying experience. You only need to see the short training video also on you tube to see how much better the film could have looked.

Anyway on the positive side Rina Takeda looks great and I could happily watch more films with her kicking ass. It's just a shame this movie wasted all that good material. It's just a shame.

[One Armed Boxer]

Anyway on the positive side Rina Takeda looks great and I could happily watch more films with her kicking ass. It's just a shame this movie wasted all that good material. It's just a shame.

I understand your frustrations with the slow motion and double takes in 'High Kick Girl'...thankfully though they seemed to rectify that problem with the second movie 'Karate Girl'...you can check out my thoughts on it in this thread, post 39 -
http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12389&page=4

[daisho2004]

Does anyone know if this movie had a BR release?

[Takuma]

Does anyone know if this movie had a BR release?

It will have in Germany at least:
http://www.amazon.de/High-Kick-Girl-Blu-ray-Tatsuya/dp/B004W1JTXM/

[daisho2004]

OK Thanks Takuma, that means in the near future it will get a US release, Hopefully!

[Takuma]

I wouldn't be that sure, but who knows.

[blue_skies]

OK Thanks Takuma, that means in the near future it will get a US release, Hopefully!

Daisho, rent the dvd before buying this!

[ShaOW!linDude]

I thought this already had a US release. I think I remember Walmart even carrying this for a time.

@ daisho2004 ---- are you hoping specifically for a Blu-ray release?

http://www.amazon.com/High-Kick-Girl-Rina-Takeda/dp/B002XTBE6A/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1306889459&sr=1-1

According to this it had a US release date of Mar. 10, 2010.

[One Armed Boxer]

OK Thanks Takuma, that means in the near future it will get a US release, Hopefully!

Ummm....I don't think a Blu-Ray release in Germany is necessarily an indicator of a future release in the US. As ShaOW!linDude mentioned this has had a standard DVD release for over a year, if there was going to be a Blu-Ray release I'd have expected it to hit the shelves before now.

Save your money and buy the much improved sequel, 'Karate Girl', getting a release 3 weeks today! http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12389&page=6

[Space]

I just watched High Kick Girl on you tube and have to say that I would have been so pissed if I had bought the DVD. It's an absolutely awful movie

Hah, what did you expect from Japanese school girl panty shot faux-porn?

[Takuma]

ah, I love it how people here always start thinking about porn when they see a school girl :tongue:

[Space]

ah, I love it how people here always start thinking about porn when they see a school girl

The floor was really sticky at the theater when they showed Sucker Punch. :smile:

[ShaOW!linDude]

I have a confession to make........

......I really liked this movie. Even with the overuse of slo-mo. And........

.......I do not find anything about it pornographic (faux or otherwise).

[blue_skies]

Hah, what did you expect from Japanese school girl panty shot faux-porn?

huh? where did that come from? If I wanted to watch porn I would watch porn.

I watched this because I was expecting martial-arts thrills performed by skilled martial artists , however beautiful the leading lady and regardless of what she was wearing.

[BlurayStation3]

I bought it mainly for Tatsuya Naka's action scenes, which the whole second half of the movie focuses on. The first half of the movie is really just filler...

[One Armed Boxer]

Hah, what did you expect from Japanese school girl panty shot faux-porn?

^ This conversation.....we've been there & done it all before, it takes up most of pages 2 & 3 in the thread regarding the sequel to 'High Kick Girl'....the much improved 'Karate Girl' -

http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12389&page=2

There's no need to have it again. 'High Kick Girl' is about as close to being porn as an episode of 'Tom & Jerry' is to being torture porn.

[ShaOW!linDude]

'High Kick Girl' is about as close to being porn as an episdoe of 'Tom & Jerry' is to being torture porn.

Ew, yeah, Tom and Jerry is soooooo torture porn.

(Touche, Monsieur Pussycat.)

[Space]

There's no need to have it again. 'High Kick Girl' is about as close to being porn as an episdoe of 'Tom & Jerry' is to being torture porn.

Look, all I'm saying is that people jerk off to Sailor Moon. I don't condone it, but I also don't frequent their fetish movies or shows.

The Japanese school girl fetish is strong in High Kick Girl. There doesn't need to be any nudity. The skirts and socks are enough to make people buy the movie alone, regardless of quality, and get out their Vaseline.

[Takuma]

Look, all I'm saying is that people jerk off to Sailor Moon. I don't condone it, but I also don't frequent their fetish movies or shows.

The Japanese school girl fetish is strong in High Kick Girl. There doesn't need to be any nudity. The skirts and socks are enough to make people buy the movie alone, regardless of quality, and get out their Vaseline.

Japan produces tons of school girl porn, animated and live action, hardcore and softcore. In addition, it produces several more tons of suggestive school girl stuff. Compared to those 10 tons that come out every day, High Kick Girl is remarkably non-exploitative, even anti-exploitative on the topic in sexual sense. Which is why calling it school girl porn sounds so strange to me...

edit: three words added to be more speciffic

[One Armed Boxer]

The skirts and socks are enough to make people buy the movie alone

In that case fair play, but that's not any thing to do with the film-makers.

I live in Tokyo, & I see school girls with the "skirts and socks" as you put it every single day, 7 days a week (because Japan is so obsessed with studying some school kids even have to go to school on the weekends!), and trust me the skirts get a lot shorter than what Rina Takeda is wearing in this movie and it's sequel.

It's like saying Harry Potter caters to the portion of the population that has a fetish about school boy magicians...the film-makers haven't made the movie for that reason...but if there's people out that that get off on that kind of thing, then so be it, but it doesn't qualify calling it magician faux-porn.

[Space]

but it doesn't qualify calling it magician faux-porn.

Search your heart...you know it does.

[Takuma]

In that case fair play, but that's not any thing to do with the film-makers.

I live in Tokyo, & I see school girls with the "skirts and socks" as you put it every single day, 7 days a week (because Japan is so obsessed with studying some school kids even have to go to school on the weekends!), and trust me the skirts get a lot shorter than what Rina Takeda is wearing in this movie and it's sequel.

It's like saying Harry Potter caters to the portion of the population that has a fetish about school boy magicians...the film-makers haven't made the movie for that reason...but if there's people out that that get off on that kind of thing, then so be it, but it doesn't qualify calling it magician faux-porn.

Lol, that's almost exactly what I wrote, but did not post yesterday (I decided to leave it out because I was feeling I was being too agressive and persuasive. So I didn't post it but I saved on wordpad in case I'd need it later. This is what I wrote:

You see, kids wearing school uniform are the most common sight in Japan. There's approximately 13 million elementary, junior high and high school students in Japan, most of them attending schools that require school uniform ... They go to school wearing the uniform, they spend time after school wearing it, and only take it off in the evening at home or for the weekends. Rina Takeda was 17 at the time of filming, a high school age kid in other words. You could pretty much argue High Kick Girl would be less logical if she wasn't wearing a school uniform.

Ok, logic's one thing, pop culture is another, and the latter is what High Kick Girl is about. You've got tons of entertainment with school uniforms, you've got tons of entertainment with ninjas, tons of entertainment with geishas, samurais... they're all the same - Japanese pop culture (most of them borrowed from present or past everyday life). There is really no sexual fetish connection in using high school girl as a karate film heroine any more than there is sexual connection in using ninjas in a period actioner. It's just a piece of pop culture, and yes, you might not be that far off calling it a "fetish", but "sexual fetish" is really streching it. You wouldn't label the use of Shelby GT 500 in a car chase movie as jerk off fetish, would you? But it's still a carefully made decision to use it in a chase movie. Just like high school girls in a karate movie. And ninjas in a period movie...

Sometimes we really think alike :tongue:

And yes, I can confirm the ultra-short skirts are not a Tokyo specialty. They were wearing those in Hokkaido in winter. I was wearing hat, jacket, three pairs of shirts etc... cause you know, it was snowing and freezing cold. Really felt sorry for the poor girls :tinysmile_angry2_t:

[Charuto]

I live in Tokyo, & I see school girls with the "skirts and socks" as you put it every single day

Are those girls doing things like this in their skirts:

http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/high-kick-girl.jpg

?

Who reads Japanese here? Is the title still "High Kick Girl" in Japanese?

[Charuto]

You wouldn't label the use of Shelby GT 500 in a car chase movie as jerk off fetish, would you? But it's still a carefully made decision to use it in a chase movie. Just like high school girls in a karate movie. And ninjas in a period movie...

I'm not sure I follow your logic.

Sports car => Car chase movie OK
Ninjas => Period action movie OK
Schoolgirls => Karate movie ???

[Takuma]

Are those girls doing things like this in their skirts:

Some are, not everyone. It's a gravity related issue. What's your point?


http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/high-kick-girl.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/Shurayuki/Shura3/karatek.jpg

Who reads Japanese here? Is the title still "High Kick Girl" in Japanese?

Yes, it is. ハイキックガｰル！

I'm not sure I follow your logic.

Sports car => Car chase movie OK
Ninjas => Period action movie OK
Schoolgirls => Karate movie ???

If you make a karate movie starring a high school age martial arts actress, why would you not have her play a high school girl in the movie? I haven't checked her backgrounds, but I suppose Takeda WAS going to high school at the time of filming.

And in general, what's the fucking fuss with using a high school girl in karate movie? Could just as well be a policeman or pissed off pop star. They're just characters.

Seriously people, please never go to Japan. You'd be shocked to death by the millions of school uniform wearing girls you see on the streets doing all kinds of activities from running to reading a fashion magazine :tongue:

[Charuto]

The millions of schoolgirls you refer to tend to change out of their skirts when it comes time for their sports class. That's what makes those movie posters different. If you don't see that, then you just have no concept of female modesty.

I still don't follow your example. It seems like you are referring to "high school karate girl" movies as a broad, common genre. It makes sense to put a ninja in a "period actioner" as ninjas and samurais are a part of Japan's historical lore, and lend themselves to action scenes. The Shelby GT 500 lends itself to a car chase movie because it is a fast car. The archetype for a karate movie is not a high school girl. They can practice karate of course, but the filmmaker has intentions for casting against type. This is why you can't say "they're just characters," as this movie would be entirely different and not have the same appeal if it were someone else in the lead role. Think about if they just cut out Rina Takeda's part and made the movie all about her master.

Ultimately, nothing in this movie is too sexual, hence the "FAUX" in "Japanese school girl panty shot faux-porn," but to act like you don't see that angle is disingenuous. I think those who like this movie are defensive as they feel there may be "pervy" accusations implied. I don't think that liking this movie makes you a degenerate; however, it does mean you have bad taste in movies. :wink:

[Takuma]

This is what I've been trying to explain

a) High Kick Girl was made as a project for Rina Takeda. It's her movie. From logical point it makes perfect sense to have high school age girl play high school girl in a movie.

in addition, and more importantly

b) Aside being everyday reality, high school girls are one of the most seminal parts of Japanese pop culture. It's a very typical character in all movie genres from action films to comedies and dramas, although not so often used in martial arts movies so far.

In martial arts film you usually have just ordinary martial arts masters, which make very boring characters cause you've got them in every damn movie. So it was a very good idea to have main a character who is something slightly different. She could just as well be something else, like geisha, or gothic lolita, or anything that goes against the martial arts film cliche, really.

The Shelby GT 500 reference was because that car is also a classic part of pop culture, just like high school girls. If you make a car chase movie you can use randon BMW and no one pays attention. But if you use Shelby GT 500 you'll catch the audience's attention, and it give the film certain a spirit. Just the same if you use a high school girl as main character. That, however, doesn't mean there would be any sexual content included in either case (or in the Harry Potter example One Armed Boxer used when he was making the exact same point as I was making with a car).

To me it seems that foreign audiences who don't see Japanese high school girls every day and don't know Japanese pop culture so well somehow manage to see sexual references in places where they don't exist. I can't imagine any Japanese person seeing High Kick Girl as "school girl panty shot faux-porn" (nor did The Japan Times (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ff20090529a2.html) movie critic, who made a rather big issue of the film going to surpring length to anti-exploit the topic). I think only foreigners could come up with this stuff. It's a quite common phenomenom, though. A lot of Japanese pop culture has been given sexual meanings by foreign audiences simply because they are observing Japanese culture from their own cultural perspective, which of course would make no sense at all. This is true to every culture, of course, and the Americans also look completely ridiculous and pervert from many European country's point of view.

It's a good topic, though, and this is a fun conversation to have :xd:

Oh, and for the record, I think High Kick Girl is a pretty poor movie. The R2J extras were much better than the film itself. I would have sold it long time ago if it wasn't for the bonus disc.

edit: I didn't adress all the points in your post cause this reply was getting too long for anyone to read it :cry: If you want me to, let me know and I will.

[ShaOW!linDude]

Seriously.....all this discussion is putting me in the mood......

......to watch some cool, repetitive, slo-mo MA!:tongue:

This whole discussion, both sides of it, is a little beyond me. So.....let's say the heroine was an American teenage girl who is a cheerleader or majorette or gymnast or ballerina who was also a martial artist and went about kicking dudes in the face while wearing her respective uniform/leotard/tutu. Would that still be viewed as faux-porn catering to some fetish stereotype?

I say yes and no. It totally depends on the viewer.

The trailer most of us saw generally showed the clip of Rina squaring off with a big Karateka dude whom she deftly roundhouse kicks to the face. Some folks may've thought "wow, what else does it show her doing and if I watch it will I see up her skirt?" Others, like me, probably thought "wow, that teenage chick just cold-cocked that guy upside the head; what else does it show her doing and if I watch it will I see something cooler than that?" (And, yes, we did......very s-l-o-w-l-y.)

(For real, I think I think I want to watch this again now.)

[Yi-Long]

It's a schoolgirl wearing her normal school-uniform performing high-kicks. It's just their normal attire, and there's nothing wrong with it, let alone that it's specifically aimed at some school-girl fetish or something.

The whole discussion just seems ridiculous to me, creating a 'problem' where TBH there isn't one, probably just to get a reaction and provoke a discussion.

[One Armed Boxer]

The millions of schoolgirls you refer to tend to change out of their skirts when it comes time for their sports class. That's what makes those movie posters different.

Yeah many of the comments being raised here are simply absurd, none more so than this one. So what is she, and the other characters featured in the movie for that matter, supposed to do before they fight....run off to the changing room and get changed into their sports uniform!?

[Charuto]

Well, that was in response to the comparison with the "Karate Kid" poster. You should understand that, but you brought up "magician faux-porn" like magician porn is a common fetish. I'm not surprised at your gaps in logic.

[blue_skies]

It's a schoolgirl wearing her normal school-uniform performing high-kicks. It's just their normal attire, and there's nothing wrong with it, let alone that it's specifically aimed at some school-girl fetish or something.

The whole discussion just seems ridiculous to me, creating a 'problem' where TBH there isn't one, probably just to get a reaction and provoke a discussion.


I agree this is a pointless and endless discussion about something that isn't there. Had the film be filled with tons of gratuitous close up panty shots then someone can make a point. But just because the star is wearing something considered a fetish doesn't mean it is. Why not call Deathproof a fetish movie as there was definitely more suggestive imagery of someone's feet. I'm sure there's always someone who will whack off to some imagery however innocent. The simple fact is she could be wearing the same short skirt and an even more revealing top and nobody would bat an eyelid. Some people are just obsessed with, what seems to be, a dig at Japanese culture

[One Armed Boxer]

I'm not surprised at your gaps in logic.

Yes, I stand corrected....I`ve just weighed it all up -

They made a movie about a highly talented 17 year old (at the time) karate practitioner.

In the movie, like in life, she played a character who is still in high school and so wears a high school uniform.

They called the movie `High Kick Girl`.

Take these 3 elements, and for some reason the producers inexplicably decided that, for the movie poster, a shot of the main character, in her school unifrom, doing a high kick, was somehow a good idea. I just don`t get it.

[Space]

\Take these 3 elements, and for some reason the producers inexplicably decided that, for the movie poster, a shot of the main character, in her school unifrom, doing a high kick, was somehow a good idea. I just don`t get it.

Inexplicably? The producers who green lighted it probably buy girls panties from vending machines.

[Takuma]

This is getting totally ridiculous. Next someone will be calling Donald Duck comics animal porn because he doesn't wear trousers (nor do real ducks, but why should that matter?) .

Oh well, some people just can't look at Japanese school girls without getting dirty thoughs. That's a bit worrysome, although I do appreciate their wild imagination in relating sexual thoughts to almost anything that has two legs and skirt :tongue: And blaming someone else for it :xd:

Ok, enought about this topic for me, I've already repeated all my points twice. Over and out, adios yakuza
:khi1j:

[One Armed Boxer]

I'll follow blue_skies and Takuma's lead and make my exit from this conversation.

I may have gaps in my logic (coming from the same guy whose comment about 'Bangkok Knockout' was - "I understand peoples complaints, but at the same time, I don't understand all the complaints" - clearly a candidate for the most logical line of the year)...but I can still tell the difference between a serious response and one intended to goad people into bickering further.

It's been a long day in work....so I'm off to buy a beer and some girls panties from the vending machine just around the corner.

In the meantime, you guys can make what you will of the equally shocking poster for the sequel, 'Karate Girl', which amazingly, features Rina Takeda in a karate pose, what where they thinking this time!?:tongue:

http://www.mcmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Karate-Girl-Poster.jpg

[Space]

In the meantime, you guys can make what you will of the equally shocking poster for the sequel, 'Karate Girl', which amazingly, features Rina Takeda in a karate pose, what where they thinking this time!?:tongue:]

An obvious attempt by Japan to further sexualize children.

[Charuto]

LOL @ guy getting his feeling hurt over such a lousy movie.

[blue_skies]

An obvious attempt by Japan to further sexualize children.

Space, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

Western culture is full of sexual images aimed at children. little girls are imitating Britney Spears or whoever the latest teen sensation is. They copy the dance moves which is nothing more than grinding in a highly sexualised way. Younger and younger girls dressing in skimpy, revealing outfits. They even make bras for pre-pubescent girls to make them look like they have breasts. Our culture needs look at it's self before questioning others.

That's all I'm saying on the subject.

[Space]

Space, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

Western culture is full of sexual images aimed at children. little girls are imitating Britney Spears or whoever the latest teen sensation is. They copy the dance moves which is nothing more than grinding in a highly sexualised way. Younger and younger girls dressing in skimpy, revealing outfits. They even make bras for pre-pubescent girls to make them look like they have breasts. Our culture needs look at it's self before questioning others.

That's all I'm saying on the subject.

:nerd:

You guys get too wound up about this stuff!

I keed, I keed.

http://www.ex.org/4.1/images/yawara4.gif

[Yi-Long]

An obvious attempt by Japan to further sexualize children.

So.... you see a young girl in a short skirt and you automatically feel the urge to fuck her!?

I guess all schoolteachers and PE-teachers in japan must be pedophiles as well!? Hell, the whole schoolsystem is 'sexualizing' children! What a perverts!

You see a girl in a skirt and panties. Big fucking deal. Get over it. Next thing you know you're saying we shouldn't be watching australian TV-shows anymore cause you might see kids running around in swimwear. Ooooooohhhh!!!!

[One Armed Boxer]

LOL @ guy getting his feeling hurt over such a lousy movie.

You called my bluff buddy....actually I was so hurt that the day you posted your comments I couldn't sleep at night.

In all seriousness though, I'm ok. However, like Ric Meyer's tends to make all kinds of assumptions regarding various aspects of the kung-fu movie world, which in general tend to be wrong, you're assumption as to the sexual nature of the movie poster is wrong as well, for all the reasons that have been aforementioned.

Having lived in Japan for almost 3 years, when they want something to be sexual, trust me it will be sexual! What is really the problem here is that it's western audiences that find the image of a school girl doing a high kick sexy, which is fair enough, but in Japan itself it's no big deal, the image is seen as cool and little else. If people want to see panty shots of girls they can just walk into any convenience store, located on virtually every corner of the city, and check the magazine rack.

I guess the point is that it's your own perceptions that make the image sexual, nothing to do with the film-makers, which brings us full circle to my original point (although quite how many circles I've gone in I've lost count).

[Charuto]

You see a girl in a skirt and panties. Big fucking deal. Get over it. Next thing you know you're saying we shouldn't be watching australian TV-shows anymore cause you might see kids running around in swimwear. Ooooooohhhh!!!!

http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/3057402/teenage_bikini_girls_oiled_down.swf

Deviants!

[Charuto]

High Kick Girl is not faux-porn because everyday Japan is much more depraved than that? :crossedlips::ooh: If I got this right, then:

Japanese life = Western faux-porn
Japanese faux-porn = Western actual porn
Japanese actual porn = Western... rape and snuff films???

[Yi-Long]

High Kick Girl is not faux-porn because everyday Japan is much more depraved than that? :crossedlips::ooh: If I got this right, then:

Japanese life = Western faux-porn
Japanese faux-porn = Western actual porn
Japanese actual porn = Western... rape and snuff films???


MMmmmmyyeahhhhh...... teenage girls in skirts means Japan is depraved.....(!)

[ShaOW!linDude]

Oh my word! This discussion cracks me up sometimes.

PORKY'S 1 & 2, THE LAST AMERICAN VIRGIN, practically all the AMERICAN PIE & FRIDAY THE 13TH films, and most 80's and 90's teenage beach romp movies are more pornographic than HKG. And these are made in the US.

Personally I don't get all the contention over this and the use of slo-mo in the film but I understand people have issues with both. That's fine. Debate and argument is fine as well as long as it doesn't get antagonistic or personal. I'll leave the last word to someone else, whoever that may be.

[Yi-Long]

Oh my word! This discussion cracks me up sometimes.

PORKY'S 1 & 2, THE LAST AMERICAN VIRGIN, practically all the AMERICAN PIE & FRIDAY THE 13TH films, and most 80's and 90's teenage beach romp movies are more pornographic than HKG. And these are made in the US.

Personally I don't get all the contention over this and the use of slo-mo in the film but I understand people have issues with both. That's fine. Debate and argument is fine as well as long as it doesn't get antagonistic or personal. I'll leave the last word to someone else, whoever that may be.

Even The Dukes of Hazard and Charlie's Angels were more 'pornographic' than HKG.

Not that there's anything wrong with pornographic to begin with...

[One Armed Boxer]

High Kick Girl is not faux-porn because everyday Japan is much more depraved than that? If I got this right, then:

Japanese life = Western faux-porn
Japanese faux-porn = Western actual porn
Japanese actual porn = Western... rape and snuff films???

Whoa....did you actually just refer to 'High Kick Girl' as being depraved!?....& then refer to it as being on the same level as "Western actual porn"!? Man what are you talking about?

Your original posts related to you believing the poster for the movie was basically sexualizing the image of a high school girl who practices karate, which is a point open for discussion, because it comes down to the difference between Japanese & western cultures perceptions of what is provocative and what's not. The whole reason why I took up issue with what you said is that I wanted to explain that, in Japan, the image you're referring to is not an attempt by the film-makers to make high school girls the objects of sexual fantasy.

However now you are stating such wild, and frankly a little disturbing, claims that things such as rape and snuff movies are only a few steps up from what's on display in 'High Kick Girl'. I guess this discussion belongs to you, because I have absolutely no idea where to even start attempting to dispute your logic.

[Space]

So.... you see a young girl in a short skirt and you automatically feel the urge to fuck her!?

I guess all schoolteachers and PE-teachers in japan must be pedophiles as well!? Hell, the whole schoolsystem is 'sexualizing' children! What a perverts!

You see a girl in a skirt and panties. Big fucking deal. Get over it. Next thing you know you're saying we shouldn't be watching australian TV-shows anymore cause you might see kids running around in swimwear. Ooooooohhhh!!!!

See previous post.

[One Armed Boxer]

See previous post.

Hey Space....just to let you know my responses arn't aimed at you, I know your responses are only meant as humorous goading, and your post in reply to my Harry Potter comparison cracked me up.

I wanted to get Charuto's pont of view more, but it seems that the more he says the less I understand, which I'm sure is the reverse of what's normally supposed to happen. Who say's communication is always better than silence!? I wave my white flag and am off to enjoy some depravity.