Kung Fu-David Carradine(and other cool 70's/80's classic series)

[Chinatown Kid]

Anybody a fan of the old KF tv series starring David Carradine as Kwai Chang Caine? I thought this show was way ahead of it's time with some great acting. The show set in the 1800's american West also delved into interesting Asian/Buddhist philosophies and was unique in that it had a hero who was humble and gentle, but could defend himself and protect others when he had to using the skills he learned in the Shaolin Temple. Carradine wasn't much of a martial artist but did alright job in the fight scenes, he did have great acting ability though that brought the character of Caine to life with just the right touch. Other great regulars such as Phillip Ahn as Master Kan and the unforgettable Keye Luke as the blind Master Po also helped to make this series legendary. I own the three season set from Warner Brothers and love to pop in some episodes in my player from time to time to see the great acting, atmosphere, and kernals of wisdom that Caine has learned from his time at the temple. David Chow and latter Kam Yuen did a respectable job with the fight scenes on the show. Everyone knows that Bruce was turned down for the role of Caine, reportedly because of racism or they questoned Lee's acting ability. Actually i think Bruce would have been wrong for this role with his fire and machismo, they needed someone mellow like David and the role seemed to fit him to a tee.

[The Dragon]

They probably never saw Bruce after a couple of his "Brownies" Linda made for him.

[Chinatown Kid]

lol, Dragon you got me wanting to try some of those "brownies" :D

[teako170]

Anybody a fan of the old KF tv series starring David Carradine as Kwai Chang Caine?

I have a lengthy interview (early 80s) he did for a zine about the TV series and a planned film ...
(which I think got made but not until the mid/late 80s?).

Anyhow if you like CK, I'll scan and post for you.

[Chinatown Kid]

I have a lengthy interview (early 80s) he did for a zine about the TV series and a planned film ...
(which I think got made but not until the mid/late 80s?).

Anyhow if you like CK, I'll scan and post for you.

If you could whenever you get the time that would be great T, much appreciated. :)

[teako170]

If you could whenever you get the time that would be great T, much appreciated. :)

Here's the first half. Will get the other half up later...

http://www.teako170.com/carradine1.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine2.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine3.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine4.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine5.jpg

[Chinatown Kid]

Very interesting interview of Carradine's thoughts and perspective on the show, again much thanks Teako. I'll be looking forward to reading the rest of the interview when you get a chance to post it.

[KUNG FU BOB]

You know, I was always down on this show because I thought Bruce got dissed over it, so I never watched it. My Dad used to put it on, and I always left the room. But as I got older, I realized that due to it's subject matter it was a radical show for it's time, and an important element in the genre I love most. So one day I saw all 3 seasons on DVD, for sale for around $40.00 (a steal!), and I picked them up.

I really wanted to like it. But I thought Carradine's acting was absolutely awful! The worst "broken English" BS I've ever heard. I was shocked to see the Shaolin temple stuff, and how authentic they strived to be. But as soon as he would start talking- or fighting- my eyes would start rolling up into my head! :(

I really like Carradine in everthing else I've seen him in- THE LONG RIDERS, DEATH RACE 2000, BOXCAR BERTHA, KILL BILL- but I felt like I just couldn't stomach him in this. I plan on giving it another shot- I mean, damn, I bought the whole freakin series- but... I don't know when... It seems like more of a horrible chore than entertainment after that first dose.

Does it get better after a few episodes? :o

[KyFi]

Anybody a fan of the old KF tv series starring David Carradine as Kwai Chang Caine? I thought this show was way ahead of it's time with some great acting. The show set in the 1800's american West also delved into interesting Asian/Buddhist philosophies and was unique in that it had a hero who was humble and gentle, but could defend himself and protect others when he had to using the skills he learned in the Shaolin Temple. Carradine wasn't much of a martial artist but did alright job in the fight scenes, he did have great acting ability though that brought the character of Caine to life with just the right touch. Other great regulars such as Phillip Ahn as Master Kan and the unforgettable Keye Luke as the blind Master Po also helped to make this series legendary. I own the three season set from Warner Brothers and love to pop in some episodes in my player from time to time to see the great acting, atmosphere, and kernals of wisdom that Caine has learned from his time at the temple. David Chow and latter Kam Yuen did a respectable job with the fight scenes on the show. Everyone knows that Bruce was turned down for the role of Caine, reportedly because of racism or they questoned Lee's acting ability. Actually i think Bruce would have been wrong for this role with his fire and machismo, they needed someone mellow like David and the role seemed to fit him to a tee.

I pretty much agree with you, Chinatown Kid. This is one of my first memories of a TV show (along with Ultraman) that I saw as a kid---I was 5 or 6 when it came out. I still remember being the envy of 1st grade with my metal Kung Fu lunchbox! I hadn't really seen the show since it first ran, and then I got used to seeing Carradine in a bunch of schlock in the 80's and 90's (like the lame sequel to this series). I picked up the first season of this on DVD, not sure how much I'd like it, and to my surprise it held up REALLY well. Very classy, creative, complex plotlines and themes. A couple things I like about the show is that it didn't deal with simplistic stereotypes---the white people that Caine came across were a broad spectrum---some were racist and intolerant, some treated him indifferently, and some treated him very kindly and respectfully. And also, I like that in the episodes that show the Chinese immigrant community, Caine is just as much of an outsider there as he is with the white community---his character was really just a unique guy, not really fitting in anywhere. Sure, the show did go a bit overboard at times with Carradine's spacy, 70's spiritual vibe, but that was what they were pretty much shooting for. Carradine was no great shakes as a martial artist, but the fight scenes were filmed pretty creatively, IMO---I dig the slo-mo stuff. And I totally agree that, given the plots and nature of this character, Carradine works much better than Bruce Lee would have. Maybe the fact that Carradine WASN'T such a great martial artist made them focus more on making him an interesting character in complex situations. If Bruce was in the lead, I think it would have most likely been more of a straight-ahead action show (not that I wouldn't want to see that as well!). But who knows.

But anyways, yes, I think this is a very cool, unique, creative show, especially for its time.

[Chinatown Kid]

I agree with your comments on the show as well KyFi, thanks for sharing your thoughts. :)

[KUNG FU BOB]

Hey Chinatown Kid, just so you know, I wasn't trying to rain on your parade. I don't like when people go to a thread on a subject they hate, just to act obnoxious. I was serious when I asked if it got better. :)

Oh, and I must agree with you guys about Bruce being wrong for the role.

[Chinatown Kid]

Oh I understand Bob, everybody doesn't have the same tastes or likes and you have just as much right to state your opinion as the rest of us.:) If you didn't like the first few episodes you probably won't like the rest of the series either, some people just don't like it. Carradine's martial art skills did improve a little bit as the show went on, but the fights were just ok imo. I just like the fact that he did use MA in the series which was rare for an American tv show at the time. And I just loved the flavor of the show and the idea of this humble hero who carried no gun but defended himself against the lawless old west villains and used a Eastern type philosophy he was taught in the Shaolin Temple to deal with the problems he faced. Each episode taught a little bit of wisdom for the viewer to digest. Just my feelings on the series, and I respect your view of the show as well.

[The Dragon]

Does it get better after a few episodes?

Hell No.

I feel had Bruce been in it, it wouldn't have even been what it turned out to be but better. He had a way of influencing his projects, and the whole Shaolin Temple aspect definetly would have been more authentic.

The fight choreographer, I forget his name, wasn't allowed to utilize very much of the "Eastern Arts" to really give audiences that jolt. The Western stuntmen all thought it was B.S. Bruce would have shown them, just as he did on Green Hornet. If you ask me, I believe that's what's missing in today's action cinema, no one wants to challenge themselves, and everyone keeps repeating or ripping off what's already been done. Even when watching Woo Ping or Siu Tung's choreography, you say "That's Siu Tung, or, That's Woo Ping!"

[dionbrother]

Actually, the series gets much better in the second and third season. The action improves, and some episodes get into the mystical trippy hippy wackiness. One episode with Carradine fighting Robert Ito (as a Tong Leader) is a stunningly good fight that is amazing for tv and could hold up with the average Hong Kong movies of the time. Bruce was never involved with the show. At all. It's an urban legend that never went away. He was once suggested as a technical adviser, but that's it. Bruce was too good for tv.

The fight choreographer in the first season was David Chow who had Caine doing mostly judo, the superior seasons two and three were done by Kam Yuen.

[teako170]

http://www.teako170.com/carradine6.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine7.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine8.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine9.jpg

http://www.teako170.com/carradine10.jpg

Gast, Peter. "The Second Coming of Kung Fu." Martial Arts Movies Jan. 1982: 18-27.

[KyFi]

Thanks for posting those, teako!

I do really appreciate the show, but I have to take a bit of exception to Carradine saying "the only time kung fu has ever worked on film was in the Kung Fu tv series."

If he had said that in 1973, MAYBE you could cut him some slack, but in 1982? I would have to think he either hadn't seen or didn't understand Liu Chia Liang's work.

[Chinatown Kid]

Yes thanks for posting the rest of the interview Mr. T, interesting read. Yeah KyFi I've read alot of stuff Carradine has said that's complete bullshit but he's definately an interesting character lol.

[The Dragon]

Never cared for him.

:l

[Chinatown Kid]

I kinda already figured that Dragon lol. You know I think Carradine might've been able to take Bruce Lee though.....

[KUNG FU BOB]

I kinda already figured that Dragon lol. You know I think Carradine might've been able to take Bruce Lee though.....

If you don't catch a Dragon with that bait I'll be stunned! XD

[Chinatown Kid]

Now you didn't let me finish Bob, I meant he could take Bruce out to dinner back then and tell him how much better a Martial Artist Bruce was then him. :angel:

[The Dragon]

... You know I think Carradine might've been able to take Bruce Lee though...

:l


Lol.

[Killer Meteor]

The fight choreographer in the first season was David Chow who had Caine doing mostly judo, the superior seasons two and three were done by Kam Yuen.

Interestingly, some old film books give Bruce Lee's birthname as Yuen Kam.

[Tosh]

I rented the first one when this came out, I'm at that age where this was the next best thing to a good Shaw movie as you was going to get on tv back in BC (before cable), so it's definitely some nostalgia but I think it was the mix of Kung Fu with Western that really makes this work(for me anyway), it had a good message and turned a lot of Westerners in the 70's to Chinese and Zen philosophies.

The extras showed the casting problems that arised, the Asian actors wanted a Asian person in the role understandably, the problem with Bruce as stated was his broken English, all in all I thought Carradine did a good job(and hell for years I thought he was half Asian) but one of the main producers did not want or like his cocky attitude. I think it would of been a waste of time and talent for Bruce anyway.

One thing that always bothered me was Caine's teenager, he looked nothing like Carradine and I never understood why they just wouldn't of had Carradine play that role himself. One thing is for sure, I'll have that opening sequence and music burnt in my mind forever, kind of like the original Star Trek I watched the repeats over and over.

[Chinatown Kid]

I first saw Caine in the reruns they played every afternoon back in the 80's, I'd watch it everyday after school and the opening sequence to the show is burnt in my mind forever as well Tosh. The only other 2 shows to do this from my childhood that are the same way are The Six Million Dollar Man and The Incredible Hulk, remember those shows Tosh? :D

[Tosh]

Sasquatch never looked betterXD

Yeah the Incredible Hulk was a perfect example of 70's tv, I remember thinking how sad it was this guy moving town to town alone, it really did a good job of showing the despair of the man even if it's a little cheesy now.

Now throw in some Battle of the Planets and Voltron:angel: Were about the same age where we grew up watching the same shows:nerd: I could see me and you as kids watching some Godzilla on Saturday afternoons together Charles:p

[teako170]

Wow - who let these old farts on the board? Sheesh..!
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to watch my Beta tapes of 'Land of the Lost' in peace.

Oh, Holly .... oh, baby :nerd:

[KUNG FU BOB]

What if the sleestacks slipped through a wormhole, and woke up Godzilla, who started destroying the cities, and the Hulk and Steve Austin had to stop them?!?! I wanna be Megalon!

I think we would have been great friends as kids, that everyone else was a little afraid of. XD

Did anyone else have the 12" ALIEN figure from Kenner, and make it fight with Spiderman, or the Planet of the Apes guys? :nerd: You should have seen the look on the faces of the crew of the Enterprise when H. R. Giger's beasty came waltzing through the transporter! :p I mean, they thought the Romulians were trouble! :p

[teako170]

Did anyone else have the 12" ALIEN figure from Kenner, and make it fight with Spiderman, or the Planet of the Apes guys? :nerd:

I had all those POA guys - and the city! Not to mention all those super-types from Spidey to Aquaman.
And no, I did not play with dolls. These were ACTION FIGURES!

One of my fondest memories of my Dad was playing POA in the living room. We'd shut the door and turn out all the lights and use flashlights as the apes "spotlights." I always played the astronauts who would sneak into Ape City and rescue the others. My Dad would say ... "How come I don't get to play the good guys once in a while?" Haha. Too much fun.

[KUNG FU BOB]

Teako- that's awesome! The POTA's city provided many hours of fun down my way too!

I would go flashlight crazy too. Especially playing with that alien! I would turn off all the lights and have Big Jim (remember those guys?) searching for whatever "dangerous animal" had mauled all the livestock, with only his camping flashlight and a rifle. Then suddenly the Alien would rise up behind him... I would spray windex into the alien's mouth so that it had slime dripping out as it slowly extended it's inner jaw! XD

Ah, those were the days. When I finally stopped playing with these figures I really missed it, and found it kind of depressing. But my wife said it's going to take more than a week to get over it. XD

[teako170]

I would turn off all the lights and have Big Jim (remember those guys?)

Didn't have Big Jim (don't think). But I did have "Action Jackson!"
And yes, I had the jungle house as well.... :D

http://www.megomuseum.com/catalog/1973/x/aj_junglehouse1.jpg

EDIT
Oh man. You guys have to check out this website: Mego Catalog Library

http://www.megomuseum.com/catalog/1975/pota001.shtml
This is the POTA page but just work the dates for different years or go here:

http://megomuseum.com/catalog/

[Chinatown Kid]

Brings back some good memories guys, I had the Bionic Man, The Hulk, Spiderman, Superman, and even one action figure called Bullet Man who wore a silver helmet shaped like the end of a bullet. I remember telling my grandfather I wanted the Chewbacca figure when he asked what i wanted for Christmas and he replied "what flavor?" He thought I was saying I wanted a chew of tobacco lol. Any of you guys remember the Stretch Armstrong doll that had the jelly like substance in it?

[KUNG FU BOB]

Brings back some good memories guys, I had the Bionic Man, The Hulk, Spiderman, Superman, and even one action figure called Bullet Man who wore a silver helmet shaped like the end of a bullet. I remember telling my grandfather I wanted the Chewbacca figure when he asked what i wanted for Christmas and he replied "what flavor?" He thought I was saying I wanted a chew of tobacco lol. Any of you guys remember the Stretch Armstrong doll that had the jelly like substance in it?

Wow, this thread is turning into a stroll down Memory Lane!

I also had Bullet Man (Cool helmet!) and Action Jackson. The Big Jim toys were like an all-American guy that went on rhino hunting safaris and alligator wrestling swamp trips! He was plastic like the others, but he had rubber coated arms, and when you would bend his arm at the elbow it looked like his biceps were flexing!

It's funny, the Marvel, Star Trek, and Planet of the Apes figures were all 8", Big Jim dudes were like 10", and the G.I. Joe guys were 12", so they all looked like mutants in each others worlds! I remember seeing THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, and Scotch taping tinfoil teeth onto Big Jim so he could be Jaws, and using Captain Kirk as James Bond. XD

Stretch Armstrong was Stretch Monster's bitch! Remember Stretch Monster? He was Armstrong's arch enemy- green, scaly... he kind of looked like The Hulk's enemy the Abomination. He looked so much cooler than that fancy boy S.A. :p

How about the action figure Pulsar? He wore a red and black tracksuit with a velcro closure down the front (hey, who didn't in the '70's?XD), had white hair, and a see-thru chest. All his organs were visible, and when you pushed the button on his back you could see his heart beating, lungs expanding, and the blood flowing through his veins.

[Chinatown Kid]

I forgot all about that Pulsar dude until you mentioned it Bob, I didn't have it but one of my cousins did. He had a glass body you could see through with all his organs showing, it was freaky looking to me as a kid.

[Tosh]

:pI forgot about most of these till now, man it sucks getting old:(

Came across this site after doing a google search for stretch monster, and here I was thinking my kung fu obsession was a bit strangeXD


http://www.stretcharmstrongworld.com

Shit I was hoping to find a David Carradine Kung Fu stretchdoll in there. Now if I only had my original Godzilla toy I'd be a happy man.

[HAZ]

The mego heroes were cool. I liked the Micronauts for a bit, but star wars won me over.

[Chinatown Kid]

Steve in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgH3zN4AlQ&feature=related

[KUNG FU BOB]

Steve in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgH3zN4AlQ&feature=related

Thanks for posting that CK! My favorite part was when Steve GRABS THE BLADE OF THE CHAINSAW!:)

I was a huge fan of this show. I remember this one time my Dad surprised me and took me to Kiddie City (No youngsters, they didn't sell children there. This was just like Toys R Us back in the day) to get me the Six Million Dollar Man figure. I was blown away when I saw that his skin rolled up to reveal the bionic chips inside. Soon after I got the Oscar Goldman, and I used to stand army guys on there and make it "explode". Even though the Sasquatch figure looked cool, I was disappointed by his limited articulation. But I still made him tear up a lot of other figures in his day.:D

[Tosh]

Lindsay Wagner was definitely looking bangable back in the day! Funny I just saw her on an infomercial last night.

[KUNG FU BOB]

Tosh- the website for that Stretch Armstrong fanatic was off the wall! I mean, to each his own, but... :o!

He'd probably say the same thing if he saw my movie collection though. XD

[Chinatown Kid]

Lindsay Wagner was definitely looking bangable back in the day! Funny I just saw her on an infomercial last night.

Lindsay Wagner was a total babe! She was probably one of my first crushes as a kid.....

[KUNG FU BOB]

Lindsay Wagner was a total babe! She was probably one of my first crushes as a kid.....

Me too. She was great in NIGHTHAWKS as well.

[kingofkungfu2002]

Lindsay Wagner was a total babe! She was probably one of my first crushes as a kid.....

Yep same here (along with Erin Gray and Lynda Carter) :D

[Jesse Smooth]

They're still babes. I had an opportunuty to meet Erin Gray a couple weeks ago, but never got to, money was tight (we have the same birthday).

[Tosh]

They're still babes. I had an opportunuty to meet Erin Gray a couple weeks ago, but never got to, money was tight (we have the same birthday).

Ooooooh Erin Grey:kiss: No woman has ever filled out a polyester space suit betterXD

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/ChiSawGang/KF/eringray2.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/ChiSawGang/KF/erin_gray0124.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/ChiSawGang/KF/WarriorWilma.jpg



Who could forget Hawk!:p

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/ChiSawGang/KF/Hawk.jpg

[Bruce Lee]

Me too. She was great in NIGHTHAWKS as well.
Little off topic but you mentioned actresses from the past. I always had a crush on Annette O' Toole. I'm like the kool aid man on that one ''oh yeahhhhhh".

[Bruce Lee]

Back then not now, the superman days. http://members.tripod.com/~CARIART/Toole.jpg

[Chinatown Kid]

I remember that chick from a movie starring Robby Benson called One On One, it was about a small town high school basketball star who tries to make it on a big city college team. I always had a thing for redheads too. ;)

[KUNG FU BOB]

I remember that chick from a movie starring Robby Benson called One On One, it was about a small town high school basketball star who tries to make it on a big city college team. I always had a thing for redheads too. ;)

I remember her swimming topless in the pool in the CAT PEOPLE remake!:D I kept thinking- why is everyone going gaga about Nastassia Kinski? She's built like boy. :l Now Miss O'Toole on the other hand... ;)

[Tosh]

I remember her swimming topless in the pool in the CAT PEOPLE remake!:D I kept thinking- why is everyone going gaga about Nastassia Kinski? She's built like boy. :l Now Miss O'Toole on the other hand... ;)

I had a big crush on Nastassja, I remember seeing her naked in a film(can't remember which movie now), she had those big sexy lips, still makes me want to go to RussiaXD

We should rename this thread "Everything you loved about the 70's as a kid":p

[Black Panther]

I had a big crush on Nastassja, I remember seeing her naked in a film(can't remember which movie now), she had those big sexy lips, still makes me want to go to RussiaXD

She's from Germany big guy not Russia, your memory is a little off.

[KUNG FU BOB]

She's from Germany big guy not Russia, your memory is a little off.

The tip off is her dad's named Klauss. XD

Still Tosh, I hear what you're saying about her sexy lips!

As far as I'm concerned, this IS NOW the thread about "Everything you loved about the 70's as a kid"! :D

Um... SIGMUND AND THE SEA MONSTER anybody? I had the lunchbox- orange trim and handle. XD

Or how about RUN JOE RUN which starred a German Shepard. Ah, those were the days.

[Chinatown Kid]

Ah the good ole days :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevqtPAEXv0&feature=related

[Chinatown Kid]

The rest of the list from above:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW-OSNXatg&feature=related

[Jesse Smooth]

I'm way younger than you all, but do you remember T.J. Hooker? I wish they would release the rest of the series on DVD, but I fear they wont. I'm willing to buy boots just for Seasons 3-4. Heather Locklear was the shizzit back in the day. XD

[Chinatown Kid]

Yes Jesse I do remember when TJ Hooker came on but I was never a regular viewer of that show, but Heather Locklear was smokin hot for sure. I always had a thing for Heather Thomas from The Fall Guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oYBpoWejZ8

Yeah baby! :D

[HAZ]

Hi

How is the season one dvd set? I've read that its badly cropped to make it 16x9.

Thanks

h

[Chinatown Kid]

Hi

How is the season one dvd set? I've read that its badly cropped to make it 16x9.

Thanks

h

Haz the first Season DVD set is matted in fake w/s but I think is still worth getting because the first season has some of the best episodes imo. One episode titled Alethea features a very young Jodie Foster who plays an eyewitness as Caine is put on trial for murder. Another one titled Dark Angel features Caine confronting his bigoted Grandfather played by Dean Jagger. King of the Mountain features John Saxon playing a Bounty Hunter that Carrradine must battle in the finale with both his legs chained. Another popular one titled The Soul is the Warrior has Caine walking through a pit of rattlesnakes. Lots of good stuff in season one! :)

[Koyuki]

I managed to pick up all three seasons of Kung Fu over the weekend, just started watching last night. Had to laugh a few times at the first pilot movie... I used to do a lot of volunteer work for a railroad museum, so watching the track building crew pretend they had the slightest clue of how to lay track was highly amusing. The crew in the opening scene of Blazing Saddles did nearly as well... XD

After several months of Shaw Brothers, I was a bit underwhelmed by the monk's demonstrations, but the short-short fights by Caine in a way seemed all the more real than a drawn-out battle would have been, especially against random thugs in saloons.

[QueenBlast]

An American orphan in China is allowed in the Shaolin Temple to study as a priest, and he goes off and uses his skills to kill a prince in a fit of anger. That's what you get for teaching Kung Fu to Americans. 500 years of teaching martial arts to fellow Chinese, no trouble. They let down their guard and teach just one Guailo and the Emporors kid is dead.

I am sick of shows and movies where an American gets to study at Shaolin or is allowed to become a Ninja because some Hollywood executive did not want to use an Asian actor. It always suggests that for some reason the white man can do it better than the Asian man.

[Tosh]

An American orphan in China is allowed in the Shaolin Temple to study as a priest, and he goes off and uses his skills to kill a prince in a fit of anger. That's what you get for teaching Kung Fu to Americans. 500 years of teaching martial arts to fellow Chinese, no trouble. They let down their guard and teach just one Guailo and the Emporors kid is dead.

I am sick of shows and movies where an American gets to study at Shaolin or is allowed to become a Ninja because some Hollywood executive did not want to use an Asian actor. It always suggests that for some reason the white man can do it better than the Asian man.

Well to be fair it was the early 70's, and he was suppose to be half Chinese/White, you have to take in consideration Asian people only make up 4% of the population, and that includes other Asians like Indians, I think Hollywood has come a long way since then. On the other hand Asian movies haven't, Westerners are still portryed as rapists, murders and drug dealers(but hey I'd gladly take a role), so it all gets evened out in the wash.

[Chinatown Kid]

Excellent points Tosh, caucasions are not the only race of people capable of being racist or having prejudices.....

[Chinatown Kid]

Did it ever come to light about what events happened to cause Carradine's death? I haven't heard anymore about it since the first or second week after it happened and they said an investigaton was under way. Was it suicide, kinky sex, murder? Has anyone heard anything :ooh: