View Full Version : How do yall feel about Invisible Target??
lillippa328
02-14-2009, 06:46 PM
Ok...i just read the review on Invisible Target and dammit was i surprised....he completely bashed the film in every way and bassically said it was complete crap.....
I really loved this film...from beggining to the very end i thought it was great....i loved the characters and the story and the action was nice!!i thought the story was very solid with some nice little twist and turns and surprises ....and plenty of people ive talked to in person have loved this film as well...
i wanna know...what do yall think of it?
Morgoth Bauglir
02-14-2009, 09:12 PM
I hated everything about this movie. Some of the action is good, but there are no exchanges, just one punch or kick and someone is flying through glass. The final fight I figured would be good but Wu Jing just dominates everybody. And the movie was supposed to be emotional, but it all felt artificial.
massa_yoda
02-14-2009, 09:34 PM
I agree with Morgoth. Everything is overdone. They action is not really stand-out action like Flashpoint or SPL. Nothing really memorable or meaningful here, nothing to really separate it from every other action film out there, ya know?
I was also very disappointed by this film.
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David Rees
02-14-2009, 11:43 PM
Goodness some of you are hard to please!
I thought it was great fun with some excellent action....
ironfistedmonk
02-15-2009, 12:32 AM
I thought it was alright as well but I wasn't expecting anything from the film to begin with.
Milkyway
02-15-2009, 01:04 AM
Usual Benny Chan overdramatized fare I've seen from him many times before. I've seen much worse though.
hello all,
my favorite hong kong action film in 2008. but get the subtitled dvd not the dubbed. hard to do dubbed if seen subtitled first.
GwaiLoMoFo
02-15-2009, 05:13 AM
I thought it was a good film. Not great, but highly enjoyable for me. I could see how some people would be disappointed (there are some here who are never happy). Ive watched it twice and it help up the second viewing. Im glad I bought it and have it in my collection.
thedirtytiger
02-15-2009, 05:20 AM
I thought it was a great film , a little too many wires in parts but some of the best action I have seen for a long time. Be sre to check out Benny's film Big Bullet, another classic !
The Amazing Psycho Per
02-15-2009, 06:23 AM
Didn't care for this one at all... The fights are pretty generic, nothing stands out and the overall movie is pretty forgetable. Watched it once, never will watch it again and I'm glad I didn't buy it. I usually really don't care for movies starring non martial artists in fighting roles. They rarely deliver, except when in very good hands.
drunkenmaster
02-15-2009, 08:52 AM
It tries very hard to be a throw back to the eighties style of action, with every action set piece more over the top than the next one. If all you want is mindless action and no believeable character development or depth then this is entertaining enough. You just have to switch your brain off before watching. I did switch off my brain and must confess that I did get some enjoyment out of this one.
I'm not sure if my brain has been switched back on yet though. Hey! It's a Hong Kong action film.......... with loads and loads and loads of crazy stunts and action. 'Nuff said. :S
lillippa328
02-15-2009, 08:55 AM
did yall watch the subs or dubs??
because i did the subs and the story i thought was really nice...
drunkenmaster
02-15-2009, 09:08 AM
Subbed, of course!
massa_yoda
02-15-2009, 02:50 PM
If this was a throwback to the 80's action film, it wouldn't be 130 minutes long for starters. It also wouldn't have all the attempted "depth" (pop-psychology) about if people can change who they are. It's just plain silly! But that's just me.
drunkenmaster
02-15-2009, 03:40 PM
If this was a throwback to the 80's action film, it wouldn't be 130 minutes long for starters. It also wouldn't have all the attempted "depth" (pop-psychology) about if people can change who they are. It's just plain silly! But that's just me.
I did say "trying" and "style of action". Obviously there was nothing eighties about it. Benny Chan just loves to go OTT on the action and the mellodrama every chance he gets. At the end of the day this is pure popcorn entertainment that you either get the taste for or analyse to death. Of course there is a third option. Ignore all things Benny Chan. ;)
maskedavenger
02-15-2009, 06:11 PM
100% crap
massa_yoda
02-15-2009, 06:17 PM
Oh i no. I'm just saying that a lot of people say it is a throwback action type of film and if that was Chan's goal, then he missed his goal. I do not think all of his films are bad, though. To his credit, i loved Who Am I? despite the bad acting and NPS was mindless fun too, it wasn't TOO over-the-top like this one.
Morgoth Bauglir
02-15-2009, 11:39 PM
I agree Massa not all of his movies are bad. I liked Man Wanted, Who Am I and NPS,and I loved Big Bullet.
Solid Ronin
02-16-2009, 05:20 AM
I really enjoyed. I'll agree with many on here and say while the film wasn't anything super amazing. I still had a good time watching it and while usually a one sided fight bores me to tears (It ruined Transformers for me) I still liked it as a whole.
Charuto
02-16-2009, 06:46 AM
I thought it was lousy. Then again, it was another movie for HK pretty boys to play "Kung Fu." Why wouldn't it be lousy?
Jaycee has all of his dad's corniness without any of the credentials.
lillippa328
02-16-2009, 07:13 AM
i think the last fight was supposed 2 be dominated by Wu Jing....it wasnt supposed to be him getting beat physically i believe....
i think the last fight was supposed 2 be dominated by Wu Jing....it wasnt supposed to be him getting beat physically i believe....
that's what i got out of it too, Wu Jing was supposed to be so badass that it took 3 pretty boys just and some fortuitous coincidence to take him down. I was actually rooting for him throughout the whole movie, he was the most entertaining part imo. I was clapping when he exploded from the roof of the minivan and fed the cop his own bullets.
lillippa328
02-18-2009, 01:53 AM
^^ hell yea
and i was touched when jaycee chan handcuffed his leg and got beat 2 death....that was a very good part in the film imo...i dun understand why people didnt like it but o well...i loved it
Dragon Ma
02-18-2009, 02:03 AM
It was a HK version of a Michael Bay film, the fight in the bar was good but that's about it, the rest was mainly explosions and Wu Jing being unstoppably badass.
HyperDrive
02-18-2009, 05:44 AM
I haven't seen this movie but if it's just to show how badass Wu Jing is, then what's the point of Legendary Assassin, which I also heard is all about showing how badass Wu Jing is?
lillippa328
02-18-2009, 05:59 AM
^Wu Jing is badass in Legendary Assassin, Invisible Target, Fatal Move, and SPL....
I loved all those exept LA
DeathShrike
02-18-2009, 04:42 PM
Not a great film, but I really enjoyed it. Looks great on Blu-ray.
masterofoneinchpunch
02-19-2009, 05:43 PM
Here's something I quickly wrote on my feelings on the film:
Invisible Target (2007: HK: **½/**** maybe ***/****): Benny Chan has always been the sort of director that has mixed results when he is in the helm. I liked Rob-B-Hood (2006), though that might have had to do more with Jackie Chan, I did not like New Police Story (2004) while I still have Divergence (2005) to see (and his Heroic Duo (2003) and before directorial work). There is much to like in this movie, but everything seems OK to good with not enough inventiveness, excitement, unique story development to make this truly a good film. The characterizations are somewhat stereotypical with the young hellbent officer Chan Chun (Nicholas Tse, Gen-X-Cops, New Police Story) who has lost his fiancée to an explosion six months earlier, an angry young officer Carson Fong (Shawn Yu, Infernal Affairs II) and a straight arrow very young police officer Wai King Ho (played by Jacky Chan's son Jaycee) who's brother has disappeared under undercover assignment. All three of these officers are after Tien Yeng Seng (Wu Jing, SPL, Fatal Contact) who has returned to Hong Kong to retrieve money and exact revenge on those who interfered with his and his gang's robbery six month's earlier.
The action is good, without being great. The lead bad guy played by amazing martial artist Wu Jing is quite fun to watch, though his skills are definitely better than anyone else in this film. The stuntwork is good with some painful stunts by the lead actors (some painful scenes not doubled, though wire work is used; like when Tse gets kicked off a building, hits the branches of a tree, bounces off a truck corner and then hits the ground; he really is hurt during that scene even though wirework was used).
I like the way Benny Chan has incorporated humor into his newer work (definitely thanks to his involvement in Rob-B-Hood) which works as a counterbalance (situational humor not slapstick) to the drama. The movie is a bit overlong for what it tries to accomplish, but it is still interesting without brining anything new to the cop/triad genre.
Solid Ronin
02-23-2009, 05:29 AM
It was a HK version of a Michael Bay film, the fight in the bar was good but that's about it, the rest was mainly explosions and Wu Jing being unstoppably badass.
Dude, Ya can't say Invisible Target was as bad as Transformers.
emacs
02-26-2009, 07:05 AM
i thought the film was okay; passable entertainment though nothing special.
Charuto
02-26-2009, 08:28 PM
Dude, Ya can't say Invisible Target was as bad as Transformers.
You can't say The Rock is as bad as Invisible Target!
massa_yoda
02-27-2009, 12:29 AM
okay so Michael Bay vs. Benny Chan. who wins?
DeathShrike
02-27-2009, 02:00 PM
okay so Michael Bay vs. Benny Chan. who wins?
Benny Chan. I can think of a few movies by him I kind of like (Gen X Cops I genuinely love). With Michael Bay, I hate every movie of his, except for Transformers. Not that Transformers is a good movie, but I love it. If Michael Bay makes nothing but Transformers movies for the rest of his life, he may beat out Benny Chan.
Bay by miles. He's an idiot savant of this kind of thing, Benny Chan can never compare, if simply because he can never get a budget big enough to even try.
emacs
03-01-2009, 05:33 PM
okay so Michael Bay vs. Benny Chan. who wins?
not too sure, although i do know that a Bay / Chan co-production would be very loud with many sweeping crane shots, colour filters and several edits for every minute of action.
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-01-2009, 05:47 PM
The mere mention of the name Michael Bay makes me wanna slap someone!
Charuto
03-01-2009, 06:44 PM
In all honesty, they're about equal if you compare directing resumes. They both make entertaining stuff:
Michael Bay
Bad Boys
Bad Boys II
The Rock
Benny Chan
A Moment of Romance (yeah I know, but it's iconic HK cinema)
Big Bullet
Who Am I?
and then they go ahead and drop some steamers:
Michael Bay
Armageddon - I guess if you want to make a girl cry...
Pearl Harbour - So bad that there's a song about how much Bay and this movie suck.
Transformers - Half the movie is a car commercial.
Benny Chan
Gen-X Cops - "You know man, it's people like you who fuck up the world..." LOL. HK stars coming from English speaking countries are always corny.
Gen-Y Cops - If the concept wasn't any good the first time...
New Police Story - Maybe I just hate movies aimed at HK youths?
I don't think either one really rates higher than the other.
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-01-2009, 07:09 PM
The only bad one you mentioned from BC, is Gen- Y Cops!! The others are not masterpieces, but hits their intended mark!
Charuto
03-01-2009, 07:38 PM
The only bad one you mentioned from BC, is Gen- Y Cops!! The others are not masterpieces, but hits their intended mark!
What mark would that be? If you're referring to profitable mindlessness, I think the same applies to the Michael Bay movies.
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-01-2009, 09:10 PM
Well, it is a matter of taste.... there's really no point in discussing personal taste... although we do, do our best here on KFC!
Im just too tired and indifferent.
Atherton
05-18-2009, 04:46 AM
Finally saw Invisible Target, Nic Tse does some pretty great stunts and the fight directors makes everyone look as good as they could get. Movie was a little long though.
Bay vs Chan - Hollywood is lame, with all their money and resources it's disappointing when their movies suck. America is supposed to be the best right? The world looks up to what we have accomplished right? Then why does Hollywood with all their money and resources remake foreign films, borrowing ideas and still getting it wrong? HK have far lesser budgets and resources yet still pack a punch and have more balls than your average Hollywood action flick. Who in Hollywood would do that bus stunt that Nic did?
blue_skies
05-20-2009, 10:04 PM
Finally saw Invisible Target, Nic Tse does some pretty great stunts and the fight directors makes everyone look as good as they could get. Movie was a little long though.
Bay vs Chan - Hollywood is lame, with all their money and resources it's disappointing when their movies suck. America is supposed to be the best right? The world looks up to what we have accomplished right? Then why does Hollywood with all their money and resources remake foreign films, borrowing ideas and still getting it wrong? HK have far lesser budgets and resources yet still pack a punch and have more balls than your average Hollywood action flick. Who in Hollywood would do that bus stunt that Nic did?
I saw Invisible target in the last few weeks and even with Wu Jing in it it is a distinctly mediocre film. The action is not bad for Hong Kong pop stars but I wanted to see somebody capable of giving Wu Jing a decent fight. It's all well and good having a great villain but it's really awful when your hero/heroes aren't really good enough combined to beat him. In that sense it reminded me of my disappointment when Jet Li got beaten at the end of Lethal weapon 4.
Michael Bay Vs Benny Chan - having not seen a great deal of Chan's work I would have to say Michael Bay is the victor .
Atherton, that bus stunt was nothing special and I'm sure lots of Hollywood actors would do that nowadays. The stunt crews make sure everything is safe just as they did for Nic.
nectarsis
01-03-2011, 03:32 AM
I'm in the "fun but nothing spectacularly mind blowing" crowd. I will admit Jaycees end scene was well done IMO.
hello all,
one of my favorite films!!
Ramji
01-06-2011, 01:47 PM
Some of the fight scenes in Gen X Cops look like shot for shot takes of Dragons Forever. Anyone notice that?
I liked Invisible Target, agree it's a bit overlong and could do without some of the overly serious ganster life musings. I think Benny Chans got this particulary bland directing stye for his dramatic scenes. They just seem to drag on, anyone remember the finale of Heroic Duo?
Saying that I think he's done some good films. Connected was good fun, I like his work with Jackie and that includes Rob B Hood haha. Still never seen A Moment of Romance or Big Bullet. Need to sort that out.
Really looking forward to Shaolin.
blue_skies
01-06-2011, 04:18 PM
Some of the fight scenes in Gen X Cops look like shot for shot takes of Dragons Forever. Anyone notice that?
I liked Invisible Target, agree it's a bit overlong and could do without some of the overly serious ganster life musings. I think Benny Chans got this particulary bland directing stye for his dramatic scenes. They just seem to drag on, anyone remember the finale of Heroic Duo?
Saying that I think he's done some good films. Connected was good fun, I like his work with Jackie and that includes Rob B Hood haha. Still never seen A Moment of Romance or Big Bullet. Need to sort that out.
Really looking forward to Shaolin.
I'm not sure if it's down to his directing style but I would probably say it needs to be edited down or use better scriptwriters. Sometimes there's just too much pointless information or dramatic scenes for the sake of it and instead need to push the plot forward without dragging the film down in banality. Films don't need to be two hours long sometimes it's better to pair a film down to 1hr30 - 1hr40
I'm not sure if it's down to his directing style
It has everything to do with his directing style. Benny Chan has never been a great director and doesn't hold a great track record. I can only think of Big Bullet and A Moment Of Romance as decent movies in his whole filmography. Everything else have too much overfocus on the scripts and performances that just end up like what you usually see in average blockbusters where mindlessness and cheesiness takes over everything.
Ramji
01-07-2011, 12:48 PM
I'm not sure if it's down to his directing style but I would probably say it needs to be edited down or use better scriptwriters.
I'd imagine Benny Chan usually has control over the edit? Interesting if not. I remember there being NO script at the end of Heroic Duo.
I agree that a film like Invisible Target doesn't need to be 2hrs long. Looking at the run time it was actually 130 mins. Too long.
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