View Full Version : Funny vid- Wang Yu dissed.... Ouch!!!
TibetanWhiteCrane
03-30-2009, 07:37 PM
The cast and crew of THE MAN FROM HONG KONG has less than stellar things to say about old Jimmy...;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6AMdS8j5f4
Morgoth Bauglir
03-31-2009, 02:19 AM
lol. Good stuff.
teako170
03-31-2009, 01:31 PM
"What'd you expect ... Acupuncture?" hahaha.
Poor ol Jimmy :nerd:
Damn I figured Jimmy'd be tapping some of that white ass, guess not:p
Latrell
03-31-2009, 07:50 PM
Funny vid thanks for the link.
vengeanceofhumanlanterns
03-31-2009, 08:16 PM
He's all attitude!!! Too bad he couldn't grasp the importance of being a little more understanding of his situation. I'm gonna have to check this one out. The dubs look a little cheezy, but I guess that's to be expected.
Yi-Long
03-31-2009, 08:40 PM
Would have been nice if Bruce had lived, and he and Jimmy would ever had to work together on some movie, and Jimmy would be acting like a dick on set...
Monk Sante
03-31-2009, 11:02 PM
Would have been nice if Bruce had lived, and he and Jimmy would ever had to work together on some movie, and Jimmy would be acting like a dick on set...
Yeah, and Bruce would have knock him out! XD
If Bruce lived I doubt these 2 would get along, 2 much ego on the set!
But I must say Wang Yu was a real d*ck! :quiet:
KUNG FU BOB
03-31-2009, 11:50 PM
I have to agree, he acted like a pompous ass. But in a recent interview with him, he seemed very modest and personable. Perhaps he was cocky and obnoxious in his youth, but as he's aged he's managed to mature and has dealt properly with his ego problem? Or... he was just acting modest. I'd like to think the former though. ;)
Yi-Long
04-01-2009, 12:05 AM
Maybe he was doing some drugs or something at the time!?
Anyway, seems like a piece of work. Can't believe they didn't kick his ass.
DeathFuMaster
04-01-2009, 12:33 AM
Nice find, nice to see that people arent afraid to say what they mean on Documentaries anymore.
bengs
04-01-2009, 12:39 AM
I have to agree, he acted like a pompous ass. But in a recent interview with him, he seemed very modest and personable. Perhaps he was cocky and obnoxious in his youth, but as he's aged he's managed to mature and has dealt properly with his ego problem? Or... he was just acting modest. I'd like to think the former though. ;)
Yeah, hopefully as he has grown older and mature he appreciates the support alot more
When an old guy with a big white beard says that you're one of the two worst people he's ever worked with in his life-----that ain't good!
KUNG FU BOB
04-01-2009, 03:18 AM
When an old guy with a big white beard says that you're one of the two worst people he's ever worked with in his life-----that ain't good!
I wonder who the other one was?
jiujitsu77
04-01-2009, 07:02 AM
the man from hong kong was a GREAT exploitation film....and i seriously do NOT like jimmy wang yu. however, i feel this was the best he has ever looked in terms of fighting and acting ability on screen. lazenby was not bad either. get this film if you can...shit i tend to dig anything from australia really...but this aside....yeah...wang yu....what a fuckin' dick.
any other stories people have in regards to his behavior? i only get a vague glimpse of his background here and there. like the story with jackie chan and lo wei and the triads and such. never felt like i got the full scoop. and why in the hell did he never train to look like he knew what he was doing on screen? you would think when you work with some of the best action choreographers in the world you would pick up a thing or two...instead you make fantasy mission force...go fuckin figure
venom10463
04-01-2009, 10:40 AM
On one of the ivl DVDs. Cheng Pei Pei said Wang Yu was arrogant, cocky and rude while they were filming Golden Swallow. She also disses him badly by calling him ugly and didn't see why he was such a big star at the time.
Anyone knows which DVD she talks about Wang Yu? I know I have it, but can't recall which one.
Tigerstyles
04-01-2009, 12:21 PM
its not a secret he was a triad brother... ask him where Lung Fei went...
...and why in the hell did he never train to look like he knew what he was doing on screen? you would think when you work with some of the best action choreographers in the world you would pick up a thing or two..
And that's the thing---what the heck does he have to be so cocky about in the first place? Now, I'll admit I do like a lot of his movies, but seriously, he wasn't exactly Daniel Day-Lewis as an actor, and you'd be hard pressed to come up with a more prominent martial arts movie star who was a less-convincing screen fighter.
TibetanWhiteCrane
04-01-2009, 01:24 PM
its not a secret he was a triad brother... ask him where Lung Fei went...
No that's no big secret.... but what about Lung Fei???
And that's the thing---what the heck does he have to be so cocky about in the first place? Now, I'll admit I do like a lot of his movies, but seriously, he wasn't exactly Daniel Day-Lewis as an actor, and you'd be hard pressed to come up with a more prominent martial arts movie star who was a less-convincing screen fighter.
Like it or not, Jimmy Wang Yu was a good actor, and came out at a time when acting was more important than martial arts, most martial arts actors where/are terrible actors but great at KF, sure some had more charisma then others. I think these films truley work when you can mix in good actors and martial artists, then you had guys that were convincing at both like Ku Feng, who was really a better actor, and Phillip Ko that brought the best of both worlds.
In fairness to Wang Yu, who knows if these people weren't cool with him. I could imagine a situation where people would be patronizing towards him because he was an Asian film star. Look how so many HK film stars get jerked around in America. Jackie Chan has the patience of Job.
Atherton
04-01-2009, 06:38 PM
Yeah I want to hear what happened to Lung Fei. I'm sure a lot of us would be very greatful.
shaolin drunkard
04-01-2009, 06:48 PM
Yeah I want to hear what happened to Lung Fei. I'm sure a lot of us would be very greatful.
Someone hopefully comes up with answer soon,I do not remember it well...I did read somewhere long time ago Lung Fei ended up to prison(in taiwan?) and somehow Wang Yu helped him to get out...hmm actually I think he was kidnapped
Killer Meteor
04-01-2009, 09:40 PM
Shan Mao, Lung Fei's partner in crime in many a Wang Yu and Bruce Li movie, was murdered in the late 70s, I think...
Atherton
04-01-2009, 10:36 PM
Yeah I heard that too. I heard he got killed with a screwdriver.
Markgway
04-01-2009, 11:06 PM
I wonder who the other one was?
George Lazenby?? lol
Like it or not, Jimmy Wang Yu was a good actor, and came out at a time when acting was more important than martial arts
Let's not get carreid away here... Wang was an OK actor when he worked at Shaws... and after that he stopped trying... He made drivel like Fantasy Mission Force because that's what his career was reduced to.
then you had guys that were convincing at both like Ku Feng, who was really a better actor
That's like saying Robert DeNiro is a better actor than Keanu Reeves. Duh! lol
In fairness to Wang Yu, who knows if these people weren't cool with him. I could imagine a situation where people would be patronizing towards him because he was an Asian film star. Look how so many HK film stars get jerked around in America. Jackie Chan has the patience of Job.
You just know the Aussies are teling it like it was.
I loved the bit where Roger (Mad Max) Ward says he volunteered to beat Wang Yu up. Classic.
That's like saying Robert DeNiro is a better actor than Keanu Reeves. Duh! lol
I wasn't comparing Ku Feng to Jimmy Wang Yu dillhole.
shaolin drunkard
04-02-2009, 05:35 AM
Like it or not, Jimmy Wang Yu was a good actor, and came out at a time when acting was more important than martial arts, most martial arts actors where/are terrible actors but great at KF, sure some had more charisma then others. I think these films truley work when you can mix in good actors and martial artists, then you had guys that were convincing at both like Ku Feng, who was really a better actor, and Phillip Ko that brought the best of both worlds.
Wang Yu was great in his Shaw films.He was perfect as who man extremely rarely smiles,talks a little and slays a lot.Not many on that era would look as convinving in Sword of the swords,golden swallow or one-armed swordsman.
Yakuza954
04-02-2009, 05:51 AM
however, i feel this was the best he has ever looked in terms of fighting and acting ability on screen.
Sword of Swords? Two Cavaliers? Master of the Flying Guillotine? A Man Called Tiger? All those have better action than The Man From Hong Kong. And if by acting ability you mean being able to put a mean french kiss on his co-actresses, then yeah, this is his best one.
A good part of it probably has to do with it being made in the early 70's, and the logistics problem that comes with working in a foreign country with primarily a foreign crew, but this has always been one of Sammo's shoddier action direction efforts. I think my favorite scene in the movie is when Jimmy Wang yu and the Australian assassin spend 10 minutes running around a restaurant throwing random objects at each other and flailing fists with the gracefulness of a blind drunk, only for one of them (I think Jimmy), to proclaim afterwards that he had just been in a fight with a true kung fu master.
Markgway
04-02-2009, 06:05 AM
I wasn't comparing Ku Feng to Jimmy Wang Yu dillhole.
then you had guys that were convincing at both like Ku Feng, who was really a better actor
Better actor than whom then?
I assumed you meant Wang Yu given that's who we were talking about.
And dillhole?
I might be offended if I knew what that meant.
jiujitsu77
04-02-2009, 06:45 AM
Sword of Swords? Two Cavaliers? Master of the Flying Guillotine? A Man Called Tiger? All those have better action than The Man From Hong Kong. And if by acting ability you mean being able to put a mean french kiss on his co-actresses, then yeah, this is his best one.
A good part of it probably has to do with it being made in the early 70's, and the logistics problem that comes with working in a foreign country with primarily a foreign crew, but this has always been one of Sammo's shoddier action direction efforts. I think my favorite scene in the movie is when Jimmy Wang yu and the Australian assassin spend 10 minutes running around a restaurant throwing random objects at each other and flailing fists with the gracefulness of a blind drunk, only for one of them (I think Jimmy), to proclaim afterwards that he had just been in a fight with a true kung fu master.
well despite the action from his earlier efforts I FEEL that this was the most convincing for me in a sense that it looked a bit grittier and more realistic that just punchy kicky or "trampoline fight!". and forgive me...i haven't seen ALL his films (as i said before im not a huge fan) but i really liked the scene where he drop kicks the guy off the motorcycle...OUCH!
i mean hey...to each their own. i just thought it worked for that film. one armed swordsman, the chinese boxer, the chinese professionals (and the sequels) were great movies and all, but that is because they started trends. i respect the man. i respect the films. but out of all that i have seen, man from hong kong was the most convincing and the most fun to watch for me
im starting to think one of the main reasons his films were so successful was because of the other people involved in the production. him alone would not have made it (well duh but you get what i mean....i hope)
oh and mark...a dillhole is the hole in a pickle...i mean penis
ok back to wang yu...im eager to hear the stories. if anyone has the time and patience to put up these...that would be awesome. Hong Kong gossip!
Killer Meteor
04-02-2009, 12:36 PM
Going from memory...
Wang Yu's first wife was an actress 9 years or so older than him, and her former husband ,a director, committed suicide
Wang Yu divorced one of his wives. She cited domestic violence, he claimed she was a lesbian
More recently, Wang Yu found out his estranged but not divorced wife was having an affair, so burst on the love nest with police and press in tow, yelling "Happy new year!"
And no, I'm not making any of this up
Better actor than whom then?
I assumed you meant Wang Yu given that's who we were talking about.
And dillhole?
I might be offended if I knew what that meant.
Your misunderstanding, I was saying Ku Feng was a better actor than a martial artist, not that he was a better actor than Wang Yu, that would be pretty obvious, right? duh lol
oh and mark...a dillhole is the hole in a pickle...i mean penis
Where did you get this description of the word? The online slang dictionary or something?:o Hole in a pickle? It doesn't make senseXD your taking the meaning to literal.
Markgway
04-02-2009, 04:35 PM
Your misunderstanding, I was saying Ku Feng was a better actor than a martial artist, not that he was a better actor than Wang Yu, that would be pretty obvious, right? duh lol
OK, you could've just said that. And yes, I admit I misunderstood.
No need for name calling. :cry:
oh and mark...a dillhole is the hole in a pickle...i mean penis
Where did you get this description of the word? The online slang dictionary or something?:o Hole in a pickle? It doesn't make senseXD your taking the meaning to literal.
So am I or am I not a penis? Make up your mind, guys! The Vagina Clan are waiting for a definitive answer.
jiujitsu77
04-02-2009, 06:49 PM
jesus you guys....
TibetanWhiteCrane
04-02-2009, 07:06 PM
jesus you guys....
What... is he here? It's not even easter yet!:S
TibetanWhiteCrane
04-02-2009, 07:07 PM
Ok, Im still trying to find out what in the sam hell happened to Lung Fei, and is there any credible info on his and Shen Mao's stories?????
Killer Meteor
04-02-2009, 07:36 PM
Interestingly, in Exit the Dragon, Enter The Tiger, Lung Fei is referred to by name in character as a "small time hood" in the American re-dub but the Chinglish subs on the Chinese print call him an actor!
kungfusamurai
04-03-2009, 04:36 AM
LOL! I've never hidden the fact that I don't like Wang Yu's movies, and now this gives me even more reason to dislike him! :) At least with Charles Heung, another triad guy, he was a good actor and a great on screen fighter, fighting with specific forms, as opposed to the flailing arms Wang Yu did.
KFS
Atherton
04-03-2009, 05:22 AM
I think the bit about Shan Mao getting killed I heard in a video interview (sorry can't place who or where I heard it at the time).
venom10463
04-03-2009, 07:53 AM
I think the bit about Shan Mao getting killed I heard in a video interview (sorry can't place who or where I heard it at the time).
It's on the rarescope dvd of Showdown at the Cotton Mill. Ching Kuo Chun interview.
Atherton
04-03-2009, 08:13 AM
thanks for the confirmation venom10463. :)
Killer Meteor
04-03-2009, 10:42 AM
I think it was the Showdown at the cotton mill dvd
ironfistedmonk
04-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Yep Showdown at the Cotton Mill, stabbed in the head with a screw driver during a fight if I remember the interview correctly, nasty way to go :(
Morgoth Bauglir
04-03-2009, 09:44 PM
Also on that Cottonmill DVD there's a funny story about Jimmy beating up all the stuntmen and then the stuntmen wouldn't work for him the next day. Ching Kuo Chung says he beat them so hard that some of them vomited.
greenfan
04-03-2009, 11:32 PM
Also on that Cottonmill DVD there's a funny story about Jimmy beating up all the stuntmen and then the stuntmen wouldn't work for him the next day. Ching Kuo Chung says he beat them so hard that some of them vomited.
Sounds hilarious.
Markgway
04-04-2009, 12:12 AM
Also on that Cottonmill DVD there's a funny story about Jimmy beating up all the stuntmen and then the stuntmen wouldn't work for him the next day. Ching Kuo Chung says he beat them so hard that some of them vomited.
Pussies.
Also on that Cottonmill DVD there's a funny story about Jimmy beating up all the stuntmen and then the stuntmen wouldn't work for him the next day. Ching Kuo Chung says he beat them so hard that some of them vomited.
Pursuant to my opinion of Jimmy's real-life martial skill, I'm wagering that the only way he was able to "beat up" the stuntman is if it was during filming and the script called for them to get beaten up, and that they were desperately in need of their job.
greenfan
04-04-2009, 01:32 AM
Pussies.
They make 'em tougher in Scotland, eh?
You can't call yourself a man till you've been punched in the gut so many times that your Bucky comes out ya nose.
KUNG FU BOB
04-04-2009, 01:40 AM
They make 'em tougher in Scotland, eh?
You can't call yourself a man till you've been punched in the gut so many times that your Bucky comes out ya nose.
Damn Greenfan, I hope you're not speaking from experience! And if you are, was it Jimmy that did it to you too?! :o
KUNG FU BOB
04-04-2009, 01:43 AM
Also on that Cottonmill DVD there's a funny story about Jimmy beating up all the stuntmen and then the stuntmen wouldn't work for him the next day. Ching Kuo Chung says he beat them so hard that some of them vomited.
This reminds me of Jackie Cheung's character in HIGH RISK. People always mention that he was parodying Bruce and Jackie, but I'm sure there were other influences for this character of the egotistical, big star bully.
Morgoth Bauglir
04-04-2009, 04:21 AM
I can just imagine Jimmy beating up everybody on the set and everybody taking it and not fighting back for fear of losing their job. For some reason it makes me think of little Max Lee beating up Jackie in Snake in Eagle's Shadow.
Yakuza954
04-04-2009, 06:15 AM
This reminds me of Jackie Cheung's character in HIGH RISK. People always mention that he was parodying Bruce and Jackie, but I'm sure there were other influences for this character of the egotistical, big star bully.
No, no, no... That was all Jackie. In fact, the only parodies of bruce were the numchucks and the yellow track suit.
ironfistedmonk
04-04-2009, 03:33 PM
I've posted on another forum my thoughts on Jimmy, he comes across as a very unpleasant person and all the stories point towards this view.
KUNG FU BOB
04-04-2009, 05:16 PM
As much as I would dislike hanging out with the guy- based on what I've heard- I sure enjoy a lot of his movies... MASTER OF THE FLYING GUILLOTINE, GOLDEN SWALLOW, et. I used to think he sucked when I was younger. I couldn't understand how his "swingy arm" kung fu had allowed him to become a top star in Hong Kong. But then I saw THE ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN and it all made perfect sense.
I think there are things about his personality, that in reality would be a big turn off, but on-screen make him a great character to watch. He has that bloated, bad-ass ego, smarmy way of (mis)behaving, and very sarcastic style of talking. So as long as he stays on my TV screen and not standing next to me, acting like a jerk, talking shit about our lovely US ladies, then I'm down with Jimmy Wang Yu.
As much as I would dislike hanging out with the guy- based on what I've heard- I sure enjoy a lot of his movies... MASTER OF THE FLYING GUILLOTINE, GOLDEN SWALLOW, et. I used to think he sucked when I was younger. I couldn't understand how his "swingy arm" kung fu had allowed him to become a top star in Hong Kong. But then I saw THE ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN and it all made perfect sense.
I think there are things about his personality, that in reality would be a big turn off, but on-screen make him a great character to watch. He has that bloated, bad-ass ego, smarmy way of (mis)behaving, and very sarcastic style of talking. So as long as he stays on my TV screen and not standing next to me, acting like a jerk, talking shit about our lovely US ladies, then I'm down with Jimmy Wang Yu.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up for me, too.
Markgway
04-05-2009, 12:56 AM
They make 'em tougher in Scotland, eh?
Well, we wouldn't stand there and take shit from a dude who's only martial training was the breaststroke. XD
KUNG FU BOB
04-05-2009, 02:39 AM
Well, we wouldn't stand there and take shit from a dude who's only martial training was the breaststroke. XD
Yes, but I read and heard in numerous interviews that he was a real life bad ass in a street brawl. He just doesn't have the finesse that makes this look good on film.
Killer Meteor
04-22-2009, 07:23 PM
According to the 1974 documentary Kung FU Killers, directed by Brian Trenchard Smith, Wang Yu was already a millionaire and didn't have to work
The Dragon
04-23-2009, 05:20 AM
According to the 1974 documentary Kung FU Killers, directed by Brian Trenchard Smith, Wang Yu was already a millionaire and didn't have to work
Triad.
SlothStyleKungFu
04-29-2009, 05:33 PM
I think its pretty funny and kinda' ironic that they get on Jimmy for not liking white chicks or getting along with gwailos in general. I mean, sure, the Chinese have some serious racial hangups, but its not like white people dont either, especially when it comes to Asians.
Regardless of the behind the scenes drama, its a good flick. And Jimmy, asshole or not, good actor/stunt performer or not, was one of the biggest figures in the martial explosion and no one can argue that fact.
The Dragon
04-29-2009, 05:38 PM
yep.
Markgway
04-29-2009, 11:39 PM
I think its pretty funny and kinda' ironic that they get on Jimmy for not liking white chicks or getting along with gwailos in general. I mean, sure, the Chinese have some serious racial hangups, but its not like white people dont either, especially when it comes to Asians.
So because there are racist whites in the world that means no white person has the right to call someone out for being racist?
sonnychibaidol
04-30-2009, 01:50 AM
Although I admired Jimmy Wang Yu's display of martial arts on screen, I was very shocked to learn about his real life behaviour. Amongst them, claims of domestic violence and having 3 marriages and divorces, not to mention his connection with the triads.
I really wanted to know something. Some of you have mentioned that one of his co-stars, Shan Miao from Taiwan died in a brawl. If this is true, could you please explain what was the motive of his death at the time?
Some of you also mentioned that another co-star, Lung Fei went to gaol until he was bailed out by Jimmy Wang Yu himself. If so, what was he in gaol for? Is this man still alive and acting?
Killer Meteor
05-30-2009, 06:20 PM
Although I admired Jimmy Wang Yu's display of martial arts on screen, I was very shocked to learn about his real life behaviour. Amongst them, claims of domestic violence and having 3 marriages and divorces, not to mention his connection with the triads.
I really wanted to know something. Some of you have mentioned that one of his co-stars, Shan Miao from Taiwan died in a brawl. If this is true, could you please explain what was the motive of his death at the time?
Some of you also mentioned that another co-star, Lung Fei went to gaol until he was bailed out by Jimmy Wang Yu himself. If so, what was he in gaol for? Is this man still alive and acting?
Yes, i would like to know more about these two guys too
SlothStyleKungFu
06-01-2009, 04:26 PM
So because there are racist whites in the world that means no white person has the right to call someone out for being racist?
No. Its just funny considering all the Asian stereotyping that went on, especially during the martial boom. I guess its the fact that naive Westerners often have their jaws drop when they see that Asians have similar hang-ups, and I always find that funny. people are narrow-minded all the world over.
And, reconsidering, their comments don't exactly label Jimmy as a racist. They just say he didnt get along with anyone which makes sense considering its a whole different working environment for him. Makes him more prickly than anything else.
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