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Alexandra

05-04-2009, 10:34 PM

Hello everybody, you can post everything you want in this thread that I opened in hommage to Alexander. I love him, he was an adorable person and a fantastic actor. We can talk about our vision about his career, his movies, all you want. I know that lot of people wrote tons of lines about his life and career but I feel the desire to open a new branch. We can share experiences, opinions, pictures! :D

Women, if you are there, your "female" point of view is welcome!:D
He had the most beautiful eyes and smile of all the SB stars. He shines in the heaven as the sunshine.
All of you are invited.
Alexandra

wuxiawuxia

05-04-2009, 11:37 PM

To me, his best role is as Fang Si Yuk in all Chang Cheh's Shaolin series.

The Dragon

05-05-2009, 03:27 AM

Fu Sheng is an ALL-TIME GREAT in HK MA films. Will always be missed.
Much respect.
My favorite films of his, New Shaolin Boxer and Disciples of Shaolin. Two classics, similar storylines.

:nerd:

Iron Boat

05-05-2009, 06:05 AM

Disciples and 5 masters, classic Fu Sheng.

kaleyboy

05-05-2009, 07:44 AM

I always liked Fu Sheng. He blazed a trail for kung fu comedy that would later be walked by Jackie Chan. Much respect to his memory. The world is poorer without him.

Blutsbruder

05-05-2009, 03:23 PM

I hope this link will do. If, enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZtQQBgK9QM&feature=PlayList&p=4B566A5798178707&index=0&playnext=1

Fu Sheng, the cute, with his own voice :D

Blutsbruder

05-05-2009, 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=Alexandra;89963
Women, if you are there, your "female" point of view is welcome!:D
He had the most beautiful eyes and smile of all the SB stars. He shines in the heaven as the sunshine.
All of you are invited.
Alexandra[/QUOTE]

He is always on my mind!!
:kiss:

Great idea this thread, Alexandra. Thanks a lot from one of his greatest fans (beside you of course)!

BaronK

05-05-2009, 03:42 PM

Er, Chan started the comedy thing in '78. FS didn't start hamming it up until later.

kaleyboy

05-05-2009, 03:51 PM

Er, Chan started the comedy thing in '78. FS didn't start hamming it up until later.

So Fu Sheng wasn't doing kung fu comedy in Na Cha The Great in 1974? Me thinks you need more training, young one.

wuxiawuxia

05-05-2009, 04:50 PM

Not only that but one must know that to the Chinese viewers back then (.... especially women) ... Fu Sheng was the man, Jackie Chan has been never really considered handsome by anyone's standard.

Fu Sheng was the heartthrob to many women, his presence alone guaranteed handsome box office returns, Jackie Chan didn't really get it going until he went all out with comedy and insane martial arts sequences.

kaleyboy

05-05-2009, 07:20 PM

MarsHarmony

05-06-2009, 12:17 AM

Hello everyone,
I love Fu Sing.
I have permission from Alexandra to ask here,
Does anyone know, have they ever read anywhere, WHEN Fu Sheng lived in Hawaii?
With gratitude and respect

:monkey15

MarsHarmony

05-06-2009, 12:25 AM

May I also add Fu Sing in "Magnificent Wanderers" from 1977!

Alexandra

05-06-2009, 01:12 AM

To me, his best role is as Fang Si Yuk in all Chang Cheh's Shaolin series.

Hello and welcome to the thread dedicated to Alexander. Fang Shih Yu was interpreted by Alexander as nobody did. I adore him in this character. He plays and fight with the fan with elegance and power. Look a little to my humble tribute to Heroes Two specially focused in fan fighting at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTamK_5IuPg
:)
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-06-2009, 01:23 AM

He is always on my mind!!
:kiss:

Great idea this thread, Alexandra. Thanks a lot from one of his greatest fans (beside you of course)!

Oh hello there! All we can say in this thread is always with respect. But my intention is to be open mind. Thanks to you for writing. You can explain yourself here. Meanwhile we write and think and watch whatever Alexander appears, he is still alive.
:)
Alexandra
P.S. "Blutsbruder" (blood brother) Nice nick!

Alexandra

05-06-2009, 01:32 AM

Fu Sheng was the man, Jackie Chan has been never really considered handsome by anyone's standard.

Fu Sheng was the heartthrob to many women, his presence alone guaranteed handsome box office returns, Jackie Chan didn't really get it going until he went all out with comedy and insane martial arts sequences.

Agree. Alexander had from the start point of his career this magic touch, this charisma for comedy and good martial art skills that not all the actors get with training because you must born with this "angel" (of course he trained very hard in several martial arts disciplines). Jackie was funny but never handsome. I remember Jakie saying that him looks like "Snoopy" hahhaha! Anyway, I like Jackie.... as actor.
:)
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-06-2009, 01:37 AM

Hello everyone,
I love Fu Sing.
I have permission from Alexandra to ask here,
Does anyone know, have they ever read anywhere, WHEN Fu Sheng lived in Hawaii?
With gratitude and respect

:monkey15

Welcome my dear friend! Welcome! I haven't the answer, but I hope some of the people on here can help you.
You don't need my permission to write about Alexander, you are welcome everywhere you go.
Ah! Magnificent Ruffians (Wanderers)! His performance as an actor, with facial expressions, and flexibility in the body on screen is awesome.
Alexandra

Chinatown Kid

05-06-2009, 01:47 AM

He had great charisma that lit up the screen. My favorite film of his was of course The Chinatown Kid. He brought the character of Tang Tung to life and made you care about him, the ending(international version) of him giving his watch to his friend and his friend(Sun Chien) accepting it was poignant and touching.

Blutsbruder

05-06-2009, 04:52 PM

Now, that I can call myself the proud owner of all of his movies (in mostly any kind of versions) my favourites are:

- Disciples of Shaolin (1976) (The first one I saw him, so it's holiy to me)
- The new Shaolin Boxers (1976)
- Heroes Two (1974)
- Chinatown Kid (1977)
- Na Cha the Great (1974)
- Men from the Monastery (1974)
- Shaolin Temple (1976)
- Boxer Rebellion (1976)
- Shaolin Martial Arts (1974)
- The Shaolin Avengers (1976)
- Five Shaolin Masters (1974)

But, as a real fan, I like the rest of his films, too.

Greetings to all the SB-Fans from
Blutsbruder (blood brother)

KyFi

05-08-2009, 01:27 PM

I seem to recall an interview with one of the Shaw actors, maybe Wang Lung Wei, who talked about Fu Sheng, and he said his real-life personality was pretty similar to his on-screen one, in that he was a happy-go-lucky, easy going guy. That's the impression I always had of him, too.

I think you could make a pretty good argument that Fu Sheng's passing was kind of symbolic of the end of the Shaws martial arts filmmaking era.

Alexandra

05-08-2009, 08:57 PM

And what could be the best dramatic performance of Alexander? Think twice. :)
Alexandra

KUNG FU BOB

05-08-2009, 09:32 PM

I seem to recall an interview with one of the Shaw actors, maybe Wang Lung Wei, who talked about Fu Sheng, and he said his real-life personality was pretty similar to his on-screen one, in that he was a happy-go-lucky, easy going guy. That's the impression I always had of him, too.

I've read, and also seen in interviews actors and actresses say that Chang Cheh often cast people as characters very similar to their own personalities, so you're probably right about Fu Sheng.

Hi Alexandra and Blutsbruder! Welcome to the site.;) I've been enjoying this thread a lot.

Alexandra

05-08-2009, 09:47 PM

Hi Alexandra and Blutsbruder! Welcome to the site.;) I've been enjoying this thread a lot.

Hello! You are welcome! I'm very glad that you have fun in this thread, I hope that the people feel so comfortable and write a lot! Did you see my previous message with the question? :)
Alexandra

KUNG FU BOB

05-08-2009, 10:01 PM

Hello! You are welcome! I'm very glad that you have fun in this thread, I hope that the people feel so comfortable and write a lot! Did you see my previous message with the question? :)
Alexandra

Off the top of my head, I would definitely have to say EIGHT DIAGRAM POLE FIGHTER is his most dramatic, for obvious reasons.

I am working on a piece of art based on this film. It's sort of my version of a poster for this film. As I was contemplating which image of Fu Sheng to use for it, I was feeling very blue. Even looking at the reference pictures I'm going to use had a very emotional effect on me. :S I will try my hardest to capture his melancholy brilliance in this role in my depiction of him.

Alexandra

05-08-2009, 10:37 PM

Off the top of my head, I would definitely have to say EIGHT DIAGRAM POLE FIGHTER is his most dramatic, for obvious reasons.

I am working on a piece of art based on this film. It's sort of my version of a poster for this film. As I was contemplating which image of Fu Sheng to use for it, I was feeling very blue. Even looking at the reference pictures I'm going to use had a very emotional effect on me. :S I will try my hardest to capture his melancholy brilliance in this role in my depiction of him.

Fu Sheng gets its highest performance quality on this film. He is out of his mind, lost the control, fall down into a melancholy and desesperation impressives facial expressions, voice modulation, crazy without limits, going into madness, the sense of inevitability, the fatal destiny... is amazing interpreted. As an actress is a delicity to see. And Lau Kar Leung catched the feel of the actor as nobody did. I would like to see your work. I was trying to made some video but my copy is very bad!:S

See you!
Alexandra

peringaten

05-08-2009, 11:30 PM

He's one of my favourite actors. 8 Diagram is great, and of course there are the tragic circumstances surrounding the film... I'm not trying to be blasphemous, but I find him a bit too overkill in it, despite the dramatics levering the film to which he spices his part, he's a bit too much in it for me, a bit too histrionic; the rest of the ensemble carry things better emotionally for me, plausibly in light of the circumstances concerning finishing the film, Gordon, LKL, etc. give it some.

The guy was at a peak in Disciples Of Shaolin, my favourite of his, lean, vivacious, and not just chewing the scenery, but tearing it up, a proper force of energy, even the way he perches on a table bench has some joyous charisma to it, let alone his b/w ruckus scene. Most impressive I've ever seen him; one of my most favourite Shaws. Chang Cheh at a peak, Fu Sheng making it truly great. Shaolin Cycle era he was a charismatic wonder. My favourite actor to see rocking LKL's hung gar basings.

jhayden

05-09-2009, 01:53 AM

I remember going to see a double feature of My Rebellious Son and Deadly Breaking Sword in NY's chinatown right after Fu Sheng passed away.
I actually sat through the films not even knowing he was dead!
It wasn't until after we left the theater that I took a better look at the poster outside. It was a listing of Fu Sheng double features playing for the next week or so and it said in "memory of the late Fu Sheng" or something like it!
I was completely floored. My friends and I went around asking about it and eventually found out about the car accident, etc.
What a sad day / summer that was.
Can't believe it's been over 25 years...
I was just a kid then.

R.I.P. Fu Sheng

Blutsbruder

05-09-2009, 12:26 PM

For me "Disciples of Shaolin" is defenitely his best dramatic performance. The final fight against the crowd of villiains (in the uncut version) is absolutely remarkable.
But not only this: It's also his wide range of feelings, he could show in this movie. The "Parcival" who went through the story with naivity, charm, humor, a big heart, bravery and the will to change his live, from the poor boy to the respected one.

Blutsbruder

Blutsbruder

05-09-2009, 01:15 PM

I remember this interview with Wang Lung Wei as well. Both were really good friends (not in movies, but in real life). Look at Wang Lung, at AFS funeral. He was so broken-hearted !!

Have a look at this link: "My beloved..." :)
http://laukarleung.com/_wsn/page4.html

And I remember an interview with AFS "best time companion" Chi Kuan Chun, telling, that Fu Sheng wasn't well-educated, foolish and a partner, no conversation could be done with. So, the frame fits. Fu Sheng has been a bit like the characters he played.

Blutsbruder

05-09-2009, 02:55 PM

Alexandra, really a great job to open this thread. AFS will be in our hearts for ever !!

Blutsbruder

05-09-2009, 03:15 PM

Have a look at this cute little side...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/600197/

daisho2004

05-09-2009, 08:44 PM

I think Fu Sheng would've been one of the 1st. Main stars of SB to crossover to American Hollywood movies, along side with Bruce Lee. To me his best role was in Avenging Eagles he was a total Badass in that flick!

The Dragon

05-10-2009, 03:35 AM

http://www.network54.com/Forum/600197/thread/1201968865/last-1201968865/Fu+Sheng%27s+death

Along with a nice appreciation thread:

http://wuxiasociety.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57

KUNG FU BOB

05-10-2009, 09:34 PM

Alexandra

05-12-2009, 03:57 PM

http://www.network54.com/Forum/600197/thread/1201968865/last-1201968865/Fu+Sheng%27s+death

Along with a nice appreciation thread:

http://wuxiasociety.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57

Thank you for sharing this material but I try to not speak all the time about his death, I prefer to talk about his life, his legacy, which is tremendous. We can see Alexander every time, in the fantastic things he done. I refuse to keep me safe talking about this loss. He lives in us, in every fan, in every woman who loves him, in every man that feel inspired by him. He made a good life and left thousend of topics to talk about.
And of course, as a women, I can write without stop about his charming personality, fashion, beauty, etc. But women in this forum can speak and discuss too about fighting scenes, characters interpreted, etc.

I'm actress so I use to follow the steps of an actor in scene, how he "built" the character, what was the best director for him, etc. That would be my next thinking.
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-12-2009, 04:47 PM

To me his best role was in Avenging Eagles he was a total Badass in that flick!

Oh! I can't decide which one was his best role! I have qualifications for each movie or character... So, I agree with you that the character played in Avenging Eagle is very rich, the partnership with Ti Lung is remarkable. He plays between a rogue guy, and a dangerous man.

I think now in The Return of the Sentimental Swordsman... Alexander built a character that I labelled "bitter". He is full of dramatic density without great scenic display. I must say that dramatic performance do not consist all the time in fabulous screenplays, with an actor yelling or crying desesperately, the most difficult performance is when you must to be quiet, and the silence in movies or theatre are the most dangerous thing to learn. Dramatic silences are more dangerous than a blade.

The most remarkable scene, in my opinion, was the moment when he slayed the evil woman (Afei wife), and said something like this: "Your men had something that I have not: feelings". Superb. The audience feel a catharsis in this instant. Finally, this man put an end to the life of a awful woman whom brought over the life of many people misfortune.

In the past messages I asked for best or remarkable dramatic performances......this one could be one.

See ya
Alexandra

KUNG FU BOB

05-12-2009, 05:09 PM

I'm actress so I use to follow the steps of an actor in scene, how he "built" the character, what was the best director for him, etc. That would be my next thinking.
Alexandra

Not to derail the thread, but is there something you can recommend for us to watch that you've acted in?

Blutsbruder

05-12-2009, 05:20 PM

Okay, as you like it, Alexandra.
As a woman, I have to write the following story (which no one will interest):

The first time I watched a Fu Sheng movie (Disciples of Shaolin/Karato, sein härtester Schlag) has been the time I started learning spanish. So, what happend? On one hand I was really impressed about this fantastic, beautiful language, on the other hand, much more impressed by Fu Sheng. Result: My spanish teacher from Chile called me a slacker. But, I wasn't. Instead of learning spanish I watched all the Fu Sheng movies, I coud get, for almost 24 h (what a busy girl !!). At the same time, I brought a long time desire to reality: Learning Karate.

We write the year 1998. It was the first time I could go into the internet. My first interest was: "What happened to him? Where is he? Why are there since 1983 no movies with him?". First there where a really cute little page, that I found. A view weeks later I had to read about his tragic death. That was the day, I decided to make this guy unforgotten.

So, in Germany I did it. I'm proud, that I could give Fu Sheng the platform he deserved.

Blutsbruder

05-12-2009, 05:36 PM

inframan

05-12-2009, 06:04 PM

He's one of my favourite actors. 8 Diagram is great, and of course there are the tragic circumstances surrounding the film... I'm not trying to be blasphemous, but I find him a bit too overkill in it, despite the dramatics levering the film to which he spices his part, he's a bit too much in it for me, a bit too histrionic; the rest of the ensemble carry things better emotionally for me, plausibly in light of the circumstances concerning finishing the film, Gordon, LKL, etc. give it some.

I agree I thought he was taking it a little too 'over the top,' still a great movie and fitting tribute to him.

I first saw him in Ten Tigers and I thought he was kind of annoying. More recently I've watched Avenging Eagle, Chinatown Kid and 8 Diagram, and I really liked him in those. I've got a copy of Five Shaolin Masters that I have yet to watch, looking forward to it.

Iron Boat

05-12-2009, 06:34 PM

5 Shaolin Masters.....what are you waiting for!!!

impostor

05-12-2009, 09:47 PM

AFS is one of my favorite MA stars. I liked him in Avenging Eagles. I'll have to check out the other ones that he was in too.

MarsHarmony

05-15-2009, 10:58 AM

I think Fu Sheng was outstanding in so many of his roles, I love all of his films and performances, all of them, but in "Avenging Eagle" there is a quiet, deadly, mysterious quality to his acting that is surprising and unexpected-flashes of a lethal hatred that are flashed and quickly pulled in. It is subtle and overpowering at the same time, not to mention his fight style is tight and compact and rooted. It's a beautiful Fu Sheng performance.

Alexandra

05-17-2009, 03:46 PM

Not to derail the thread, but is there something you can recommend for us to watch that you've acted in?

Well, I learn theater in the National Conservatory of Buenos Aires, the most prestigious one in my country. I always played in theater. I have some pictures of several performances. Along five years I was into a little theater company, it was a splendid time in my life. Today, I learn cinema direction.

See you
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-17-2009, 03:56 PM

Okay, as you like it, Alexandra.
A view weeks later I had to read about his tragic death. That was the day, I decided to make this guy unforgotten.
So, in Germany I did it. I'm proud, that I could give Fu Sheng the platform he deserved.

Ah! Puedes entender español! Que fantástico! A mí me ha pasado algo similar cuando vi que no había nada más de Alexander después de 1983. Cuando me enteré de su desaparición lloré por tres días seguidos y lo convertí en un ángel y lo puse en el podio que se merece. Aclaro: en Argentina hablamos una variante de español que es el castellano, más dificil para algunos, es una lengua hermosa.
AH! you can understand spanish! How amazing! I have a similar experience too when I saw that nothing else about Alexander after 1983. When I knew that he died in a fatal car crash this year, I cried for three days and turn him in an angel and put him in a podium he deserves. Explaining: in Argentina we talk a branch of pure spanish which is castillian, more difficult for some people, but is a wonderful language.
See you
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-17-2009, 04:10 PM

I don't like Fu Sheng so much in "The Avenging Eagle".
Cause he don't play this part so convincing.

Also I don't like him in the "Brave Archer Stories 1 till 4".

Fu Sheng is at his best, in my opinion, in his Shaolin Brothers roles: "One for all, and me for you". On the other hand, in this kind of movies, I don't like his "litte brother" image.The "fool", who must be guarded by the heroic ones like David Chiang (LOL), and Ti Lung (okay).

Maybe we have to open an internal thread with a discussion about "The late Fu Sheng". Because this is a complete other person/actor/man.

Oh... on the contrary (I like the differences, make us very rich spiritually) I noticed a good character in Avenging Eagle. Maybe is my affection for the director Sun Chung... he was great. Alexander plays between a rogue guy and a very dangerous man. He don't convinces me in the saga Brave Archer (don't convince me Chang Cheh sometimes).
And of course he was amazing in the Fang Shih Yu character. Love Chinatown Kid and in Police Force (I saw only parts) he was so young, so fresh... I laugh very hard with your appreciation for David Chiang (LOL) I agree totally. He never convinced me, I don't understand what saw on him the Shaw Brothers (excuse me the fans) Ti Lung, for me, is the elegance as a whole. With "scenario presence", not all the actors reach this point. I hate when people says that Alexander was naughty, fool, dumb... he was clever, never a stupid one.
Agree with you with the thread "the late Fu Sheng" ... open it! Because he was at the end of his life a mature actor, in dramatic characters.

See you
Alexandra

KUNG FU BOB

05-17-2009, 05:04 PM

Well, I learn theater in the National Conservatory of Buenos Aires, the most prestigious one in my country. Later, I studied with certain great theater masters, but suddenly, a "varieté" producer (did you understand the word "varieté"? Is acting in Cafe Concert) saw me and contract me for five year for his own show of Cafe Concert, as female protagonist.
See you
Alexandra

Alexandra, thank you for answering me in such great detail. I didn't know what the term meant, so I'm glad you explained it. I always love hearing about someone getting to live their passions and express themselves artistically, so I enjoyed your post a great deal! ;)

Apologies for temporarily derailing this thread, but back to Fu Sheng.

Blutsbruder

05-18-2009, 05:16 PM

First of all, thank you very much for your great 'Biography'. It sounds fantastic to me. Congratulations, you made your way and used your talents !!

Now to my spanish "background": Not only, that I love the spanish language very much. Since 25 years (!!) I'm in love with a Spaniard :p And, believe it or not, he worked for more than 20 years, till the ambassy went to Berlin, for the Argentinean ambassedors. Btw: Argentina, what a beautiful country !! But sadly the Argentines had so many crises to endure :S Chapeau, to all of you !!

Muchos saludos

Tu hermano de sangre ;)

Blutsbruder

05-18-2009, 08:24 PM

What are your opinions about the "late" Fu Sheng? His movies, his private live, and of course the rumors? And, with the "late" I mean, from 1979 till his tragically death in 1983.

Please let us know !!

Gaijin84

05-18-2009, 08:31 PM

What rumors?

Blutsbruder

05-18-2009, 08:37 PM

I once wrote a Biography of AFS. I translated it from english into german, more than 6 pages, narrow written, but it brought me closer to this guy.To him and his families background. To him and his passion of kung fu movies, his passion of bruce lee (later he owned bruce lee's house).

Blutsbruder

05-18-2009, 08:41 PM

What rumors?

The rumors of divorce from Jenny, the rumors of being addicted to drugs, addicted of gambling, etc. etc.

There are so many rumors in the www...

lillippa328

05-19-2009, 12:16 AM

great Martial artist and his movies were nice

FrankBolte

05-19-2009, 09:28 AM

wuxiawuxia

05-19-2009, 07:16 PM

The rumors of divorce from Jenny, the rumors of being addicted to drugs, addicted of gambling, etc. etc.

There are so many rumors in the www...

Jenny never got divorced from him, find out here
http://wuxiasociety.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57

Blutsbruder

05-20-2009, 04:38 PM

would love to read this..in english or german doesnt matter..:)

Okay, if you understand German, here are the links:

http://www.shaw-brothers-reloaded.de/html/fu_sheng_biografie_.html

http://www.shaw-brothers-reloaded.de/html/in_erinnerung_an_alexander_fu_.html

http://www.shaw-brothers-reloaded.de/html/mr__und_mrs_.html

I hope, this links will do. If not... Keep cool :p

Yours, Blutsbruder

Iron Boat

05-20-2009, 04:53 PM

Hate to be a spoiler but can you guys please stop reminding me that Fu Sheng is no longer with us....thats depressing you know.

inframan

05-21-2009, 04:11 PM

5 Shaolin Masters.....what are you waiting for!!!

I'm still sitting on Boxer from Shuntung and Bloodbrothers too. I'll get to them....

Iron Boat

05-22-2009, 03:32 AM

Sitting on Boxer from Shantung and Blood Brothers!!! Your killin Me!!!

Stanley

05-22-2009, 07:01 AM

Blutsbruder

05-22-2009, 01:31 PM

Hate to be a spoiler but can you guys please stop reminding me that Fu Sheng is no longer with us....thats depressing you know.

Sorry, Iron Boat, but Fu Sheng may be everything, but he won't be dead, as long as the fans are talking and writing about him and of course, watching his movies!!

Yours,
Blutsbruder

Alexandra

05-22-2009, 07:48 PM

Btw: Argentina, what a beautiful country !! But sadly the Argentines had so many crises to endure :S Chapeau, to all of you !!

Muchos saludos

Tu hermano de sangre ;)

Hermano? Hermana? Me confundes! hahhhaha! Primero: felicitaciones por abrir el thread dedicado a la última fase de la vida de Fu Sheng. Segundo: no creo tener tanto talento, la gente dice que lo tengo, que tengo mucha llegada al público. Tercero: que coincidencia que hayas trabajado en la embajada argentina! Mi país es una belleza única pero con grandes problemas políticos. Ya lo superaremos. Cuarto: disculpas otra vez y pidiendo finalizar nuestros pequeños desacuerdos en YouTube por el video que subí. Acá el protagonista es el amor que sentimos por Alexander.

Brother? Or Sister? AH! You confuss me! First: congratulations for opening the thread devoted to the late Fu Sheng. Second: I don't believe to have so much talent, the people says it all the time, because I'm a special charisma to touch the feelings of the people. Third: Such a coincidence your working in the argentinian embassy! My country is a beauty without equal but with great political troubles. Fourth: apologizes again and asking for finishing our little disagreements in YouTube messages because my video "Alexander Fu Sheng Extreme Close Up".
Here the protagonist is the love we feel by Alexander.

Peace
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-22-2009, 07:50 PM

Apologies for temporarily derailing this thread, but back to Fu Sheng.

My apologies too. In private I will make clear the meaning of "cafe concert" word.
Back to Alexander, sorry again.
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-22-2009, 08:01 PM

I think he was most successful in Heroes Two as Fong Sai Yuk, the movie that sparked off all the later Shaolin movies in Shaw.
(Btw, anyone seen Meng Fei's version titled The Prodigal Son earlier ? A huge success)
Chang Cheh was not a director good in the acting department so we don't see much of his acting(in other manner) and being his god-son, we don't see him in others' movies until Avenging Eagle.

I actually like his few movies under Chu Yuan which gave some dramtic acting beside a change of character and styling.

Can his wife Tseng Ni(Jenny Yen) be mentioned here ? My favourite singer of that time, what a great pair !! And they quite look-alike too.

Too sad, the most of HK's greatest STARS or idols died young.
Linda Lin Dai, Betty Loh Ti, Bruce Lee, Alexandra Fu Sheng, Danny Chan, Leslie Cheung, Anita Mui, etc.

No one will dispute me that among them, 6 of them are all-time best and legendary.....

Hey, I agree with you with the character of Fang Shih Yu, Alexander was splendid on it. And agree too with the good performing of the same hero by Meng Fei, amazing. And agree too with the direction style of Chang Cheh, several times I said that he never convinced me, I like very much Chor Yuen and Sun Chung, even Lau Kar Leung. Ah! Avenging Eagle was directed by Sun Chung.
By the way what a talented director, with his "tild up" and "tild down", his slowmotion moderated and well positioned, his camera angles, and so far.

But.........here......you want to mention Jenny? AHHHH! All the women on here will kill you! hahahhahhahhahahha!
Forbidden! hahahahhahahahahhhhha!

See you
Alexandra

Blutsbruder

05-23-2009, 11:44 AM

Thats right. Just because we love Fu Sheng does not mean we love Jenny.

But ladies, the question is, why is it so?
Are we just jealous, or do we have the feeling, she wasn't good for him? Please, Alexander loved this women. So we have to respect this lady.
On the other hand, she is a realy cool one. Never told, who is the fahter of her daugther "Melody". Twice pregnant by Fu Sheng, but no baby. Secrets over secrets. But I would like to talk about her, because, she was a part of HIM !!
Yours
Blutsbruder

Blutsbruder

05-23-2009, 11:58 AM

Hermano? Hermana? Me confundes! hahhhaha! Primero: felicitaciones por abrir el thread dedicado a la última fase de la vida de Fu Sheng. Segundo: no creo tener tanto talento, la gente dice que lo tengo, que tengo mucha llegada al público. Tercero: que coincidencia que hayas trabajado en la embajada argentina! Mi país es una belleza única pero con grandes problemas políticos. Ya lo superaremos. Cuarto: disculpas otra vez y pidiendo finalizar nuestros pequeños desacuerdos en YouTube por el video que subí. Acá el protagonista es el amor que sentimos por Alexander.

Brother? Or Sister? AH! You confuss me! First: congratulations for opening the thread devoted to the late Fu Sheng. Second: I don't believe to have so much talent, the people says it all the time, because I'm a special charisma to touch the feelings of the people. Third: Such a coincidence your working in the argentinian embassy! My country is a beauty without equal but with great political troubles. Fourth: apologizes again and asking for finishing our little disagreements in YouTube messages because my video "Alexander Fu Sheng Extreme Close Up".
Here the protagonist is the love we feel by Alexander.

Peace
Alexandra

Si, Hermano de Sangre (Blutsbruder/blood brother) pero una hermana de Fu Sheng.

Mea Culpa, what happened on YouTube. I couldn't explain, what I ment. My failure!! If I could write in my own language, I think, it would be more understandable. My deficit. Forgive me, please.

We are writing here, for the most beloved and never forgotten
Alexander Fu Sheng !!

Blutsbruder

05-23-2009, 12:07 PM

Jenny never got divorced from him, find out here
http://wuxiasociety.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57

Sorry, but I'm missing the evidence...

Yours
Blutsbruder

Blutsbruder

05-23-2009, 12:18 PM

Karato, sein härtester Schlag.
Disciples of Shaolin.

http://www.celestialpictures.com/level3_search_detail.cfm?l_movie_id=SL175014

Stanley

05-24-2009, 07:31 AM

Hate to be a spoiler but can you guys please stop reminding me that Fu Sheng is no longer with us....thats depressing you know.

Haha, I like that.

Stanley

05-24-2009, 07:49 AM

Jenny & Fu Sheng NEVER divorced although I believe the news are true that they always quarralled. Maybe both are young at that time.

I believe their love and relationship is true and ever-lasting. They look so compatible. Jenny even acted in a few of his movies, only his, at that time and she even sacrificed her status and fame in Taiwan(she was such a big star then !!) and moved to HK for the sake of their relationship.

Although married for only a few years, Jenny always declared that Fu Sheng was his only true love and she never married again. Every time she sang that song(Alone Again) she will shed tears and in her recent concert, she put up videos of their wedding and the duet song that they sang together.

Unlike Leslie Cheung's lived-in partner who took and share 50% of Leslie's assets before he died and nearly 100% of Leslie's left overs(after he died) but never do anything for Leslie after he passed away.

Not trying to promote Jenny....but just to make our idol Fu Sheng's thread more complete.

butcher wing

05-28-2009, 11:54 AM

KUNG FU BOB

05-28-2009, 04:34 PM

I just rewatched DISCIPLES OF SHAOLIN (later remade as THE BARE-FOOTED KID), and wanted to comment for those that haven't seen it.

This is Fu Sheng really shining on screen. He plays an uneducated country orphan- but not a bumpkin- who has traveled to the city looking for something better. As a young man that's never even owned a pair of shoes, he is immediately impressed by the material wealth of people he comes in contact with. These "riches" of nice shoes, and music-playing gold watches are enough to entice him to work for some nasty, corrupt people, just for a chance to earn some money. His older kung fu brother (played by Chi Kuan-chi sporting his seriously sour face) helps him get the job, but he has already been down the road of tragedy and betrayal, and is filled with melancholy. Though Fu Sheng's character may not be able to recognize the implications of his actions, he is admirable for at least striving to reach his goals (however naive) and always helping out the under dog. But... you must always be careful what you wish for!

DISCIPLES OF SHAOLIN (aka. INVINCIBLE ONE, aka. HUNG BOXING KID) is a terrific film directed by Chang Cheh. Fu Sheng displays powerful, and realistically choreographed Hung Gar kung fu (Thank you Lau Sifu), and his inimitable charm blazes brightly- even when his character is making huge errors in judgement. There's a nice character arc in a well scripted story, that's filled with very human touches and emotional nuances. One of my favorite moments is when a villain makes a demand, and our hero says "Let me check to see if that's alright" and consults his fists! Guess what the answer is?

Highly recommended for fans of the actor, and anyone that enjoys a great movie.

Blutsbruder

05-28-2009, 04:44 PM

I would have love to have seen the final fight with Gordon Liu, and Fu Sheng in 8 Diagram Polefighter but he left us way to early. Explosive actor could sing too but had a natural kung fu style when using it. Greatly missed..

I'm with you 'butcher wing'. This man had great charisma, talents in acting and martial arts and for his huge fan-family* he will be unforgetten.
Please remember, his funeral in Hong Kong was celebrated like a state funeral*. Meanwhile his fans in Europe and the US wasn't informed, that he was dead.
The problem for "good old" Fu Sheng fans is, we are trapped in a wheel. Means: On one hand, we want to keep his memories alive, on the other hand, no news will be given to us. Just old rumors we have to deal with.

He is always on my mind !!
Blutsbruder

Alexandra

05-29-2009, 10:08 PM

I just rewatched DISCIPLES OF SHAOLIN (later remade as THE BARE-FOOTED KID), and wanted to comment for those that haven't seen it.
DISCIPLES OF SHAOLIN (aka. INVINCIBLE ONE, aka. HUNG BOXING KID) is a terrific film directed by Chang Cheh. Fu Sheng displays powerful, and realistically choreographed Hung Gar kung fu (Thank you Lau Sifu),
Highly recommended for fans of the actor, and anyone that enjoys a great movie.

Hey
Alexander was well trained in Hung Gar style, and Lau Kar Leung is a real master, a big one. And concerning performances, Alexander was a great actor, very talented, with an unique charisma. I said once, he could trespass the screen and touch every spectator. This is a gift from God, you never got this training.
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-29-2009, 10:21 PM

But ladies, the question is, why is it so?
Are we just jealous, or do we have the feeling, she wasn't good for him? Please, Alexander loved this women. So we have to respect this lady.
On the other hand, she is a realy cool one. Never told, who is the fahter of her daugther "Melody". Twice pregnant by Fu Sheng, but no baby. Secrets over secrets. But I would like to talk about her, because, she was a part of HIM !!
Yours
Blutsbruder

Hey Blutsbruder! Nobody stop you! :D All women whom loves Alexander feels a little of jealous... it's normal. I prefer to talk to his life as an actor and his performances.
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-29-2009, 10:26 PM

Somebody knows something about a supossed shot left by Alexander titled "Voodoo Charm" (1982)? It was released?
Alexandra

Alexandra

05-29-2009, 10:38 PM

KUNG FU BOB

05-30-2009, 12:14 AM

Somebody can tell us something about his skills in performances using Wing Chung Technique? What about the introducing part of Disciples of Shaolin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_BVaM85m8
Some instructor on here in the thread?
I look at the position of the wrists...
Alexandra

He is performing Hung Gar Fist, not Wing Chun. As he was taught by Lau Sifu, I'm sure he's doing it right! From what I've heard and read, Lau Sifu was a perfectionist when it came to showing the moves of his beloved art correctly, especially when it was one of his students performing the techniques. I'm not a Hung Gar practitioner (yet), but it looks outstanding to me.

Alexandra

05-30-2009, 12:28 AM

He is performing Hung Gar Fist, not Wing Chun. As he was taught by Lau Sifu, I'm sure he's doing it right! From what I've heard and read, Lau Sifu was a perfectionist when it came to showing the moves of his beloved art correctly, especially when it was one of his students performing the techniques. I'm not a Hung Gar practitioner (yet), but it looks outstanding to me.

Akkkk! :S I noticed my mistake now! I meant "Hung Gar"! Sorry! I wrote the message in a rush, and put it wrong words. Sorry again. Lau Kar Leung is a perfectionist and I love him. A master.
Alexandra

The Dragon

05-30-2009, 02:21 AM

KUNG FU BOB

05-30-2009, 02:31 AM

KFB, you ought to write reviews for MA Movie news! LOL!:D
That was really a nice comment/review of Disciples of Shaolin, one of a few great Fu Sheng films. I also like New Shaolin Boxers which has a similar story, and with Jenny in a role as well. Johnny Wang Lung Wei is a nasty bastard in this one!

Thanks bro! I followed DISCIPLES up with (it's 90's remake) THE BARE-FOOTED KID. It's no classic, but it was very good. I hadn't seen it in a long time, and was pleasantly surprised. But Arron doesn't have half the charisma as Fu Sheng!

NEW SHAOLIN BOXERS was a good one. :D

FrankBolte

06-01-2009, 03:47 AM

hey just some input,in disciples of shaolin in the intro you see Fu Sheng performing the iron thread fist (tit sin kuen) this is the highest and most advanced set in hung gar kuen...

Alexandra

06-02-2009, 11:57 PM

hey just some input,in disciples of shaolin in the intro you see Fu Sheng performing the iron thread fist (tit sin kuen) this is the highest and most advanced set in hung gar kuen...

Hello teacher!
After my great confussion when I wrote "wing chun" :cry: meaning "hung gar" :monkey02 (forgive me!) I'm very interested in your observation. I'm a simple Tai Chi disciple, I only see colleagues training Hung Gar. Can you send a picture or a part of this introduction when Alexander is doing the movement for recognize it? :)
When you say "kuen" you mean "chuen" as we pronounce? Or is another bleff mine?:cry:

Thanks!
Alexandra

clfnole

06-03-2009, 02:23 AM

Kuen - Cantonese
Chuan - Mandarin

FrankBolte

06-03-2009, 04:35 AM

Hello teacher!
After my great confussion when I wrote "wing chun" :cry: meaning "hung gar" :monkey02 (forgive me!) I'm very interested in your observation. I'm a simple Tai Chi disciple, I only see colleagues training Hung Gar. Can you send a picture or a part of this introduction when Alexander is doing the movement for recognize it? :)
When you say "kuen" you mean "chuen" as we pronounce? Or is another bleff mine?:cry:

Thanks!
Alexandra

Hi Alexandra,

as CLF Nole said kuen is the cantonese word for fist and in mandarin its chuan or sometimes written quan...so same meaning.

I have a video of Iron thread fist on my youtube channel,right now they have a site maintainance so I cant get the link will add it on later...XD

also Fu Shengs intro of the movie Disciples of shaolin is on youtube...

Franky

FrankBolte

06-03-2009, 06:11 AM

iron thread fist aka tit sin kuen , its not the complete set but just a part...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5qHw3jGF8

and here Fu shengs version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfoyUC1PB28

Alexandra

06-07-2009, 05:41 PM

Hi Alexandra,

as CLF Nole said kuen is the cantonese word for fist and in mandarin its chuan or sometimes written quan...so same meaning.

I have a video of Iron thread fist on my youtube channel,right now they have a site maintainance so I cant get the link will add it on later...XD

also Fu Shengs intro of the movie Disciples of shaolin is on youtube...

Franky

Hello Teacher!
Oh I understand very well... in Choy Li Fat, in cantonese "kuen", in mandarin "chuan" ("quan" as in wengshenquan) I wrote "chuen" because we pronounce in that way. The same occurs with Choy Li Fat, I read in some places Choy Lei Fut, Choy Lee Fat, etc. Puzzle of vowels.
I saw the video on YouTube and post a commentar. Thanks for the video and the explanation-
Alexandra

Alexandra

06-07-2009, 05:48 PM

I post this question because I went to another thread that kept me thinking. Alexander's health troubles limited his performances in Brave Archer 3, Brave Archer 4 and Life Gamble. He is not boring the audience, he could not do too much. What think the "team" here?
Alexandra

MarsHarmony

06-13-2009, 10:57 PM

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The more I look at the release dates for Fu Sheng's films, it does not make sense that during "Life Gamble", he was suffering from any injury.

teako170

06-14-2009, 12:03 AM

The more I look at the release dates for Fu Sheng's films, it does not make sense that during "Life Gamble", he was suffering from any injury.

You are correct. Fu Sheng was not suffering from either of his "Black Sept." injuries during the shooting of Life Gamble. Problem is in creating a proper chronology of events, we need to look at production dates and not release dates.

For example, Life Gamble was shot and completed in 1977. Well before the first (Sept '78) injury. As for 10 Tigers? Fu Sheng was working on that film in the summer of '78 (again, before his 1st major injury) so he was still healthy there as well.

bjv666

06-14-2009, 02:23 AM

The more I look at the release dates for Fu Sheng's films, it does not make sense that during "Life Gamble", he was suffering from any injury. Let me explain. "Life Gamble" was released in February 1979, and "Deadly Breaking Sword" was released in April 1979. If this is true, his part in "Life Gamble" does not reflect recovering from an injury. Prior to "Life Gamble" was "Avenging Eagle" released September 1978. Don't think he got too hurt on AE! So now we are back to whats the deal with "Life Gamble".

This film was originally completed in (1977) and released Twice !

Once as:

Poison For Poison - 04-26-78 (Released in Taiwan)

Then as:

Life Gamble - 02-22-79 (Released in Hong Kong)

If you'll notice, Fu Sheng only throws (1) kick during the whole film [at the end] and
most of his other scenes are "Talkin & Knife throwing". So, technically, he may have had
an injury in (1977). As you'll recall Brave Archer-1, didn't call for a lot of action/movement
on his part. This was the least he had ever moved in a film [and these were Action Films].

Studios release films at varying times. Chang's films were released many times, up to
(9) months apart [from the time a film is finished], til its' release date.

+ Example: 5 Deadly Venoms was also shot and completed in (1977),
but wasn't released until the Summer of the following year. +

Near the end of his contract [and when the Venoms were falling apart], his films would be released
within months of the others [considering how well the films did].

And if a star was having a good month at the box-office, any of his other films, would
be released to capitalize on this as well. In (1972) around (9) films featuring
Chen Kuan-Tai were released - following the "Overnight success" of the Boxer From Shantung.
Even films he shot before (with other companies) and/or ones where he had only a minor role -
if he was in it, people wanted to see it.

Boxing's on, gotta go...

bjv

MarsHarmony

06-14-2009, 02:05 PM

Good information, thank you. You seem to have a cache of production notes, or super research, well done. Sure would like to break into the old Shaw records, and get all the dirt on what was made when. And of course you are right about the release dates, sometimes Fu Sheng's looks do not match the order of any of the lists I have seen, haha.
What say you all, lets break into Shaw Studios. ahhahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Thanks again for the great post.

tantao3,son of tantao2

06-14-2009, 02:41 PM

...I think 5 Venoms was shot in early 1978 and released in 1978...

Alexandra

06-14-2009, 04:32 PM

Ah friends!
You with all the information (release dates, etc) makes me feel teasy hahhahhaa! As MarsHarmony or Teako170 says, is very important the exact moment of the release, so we must calculate the time when the movie was shot. But maybe, a movie could be stopped many times for several reasons. I still wonder what happened with the serious injuries that Alexander suffered the first Black September.... Which was the movie stopped because his health? Because an actor with those pains can't shot, or remain without too much action in scenes. I think in Life Gamble. If he has not injuries, could be the script. Could be the attention focused in the Venoms. And could be the beginning of the disputes between Alexander and Chang Cheh. I still not understand his character. If he was the protagonist, must be in action all the time. So, some troubles on here. If you shift the attention to others characters ... one reason is needed. The intention of the director is clearly to show the Venoms, not Alexander. So, what was the reason?:cry:

And in Brave Archer agree with MarsHarmony, the part I and II was good, but the part III and IV shows troubles: the script in first place. If a director change the script is for one reason. Disagreements with Alexander? Complications with his health? And Alexander in BA 4 seated minutes and minutes of running time doing nothing! Must it be a reason. How your mega star could be the protagonist of a movie and remain in the shadows? Or maybe Alexander do this movie for contract and not put passion on it, just a business transaction: "Ok Mr. Chang Cheh I will do it for legal reasons" hahahhahah! And remember again the final line of the script in this movie: "I guess that is the end". Double sense. Just especulating.

And MarsHarmony please! Alexander never in the life bores me, I love him from planet earth to the end of the universe! I just wondering what happened with the performances, and the link between them and the Black Septembers. You know, MarsHarmony, I'm completely in love for Alexander, I can see him (as you says) sleeping all the running time of a movie and he put poison my heart with passion hahahahhaha!

Sorry because my english, is too hard to explain me all the time!

See you around
Alexandra

Alexandra

06-14-2009, 04:43 PM

This film was originally completed in (1977) and released Twice !

Once as:

Poison For Poison - 04-26-78 (Released in Taiwan)

Then as:

Life Gamble - 02-22-79 (Released in Hong Kong)

If you'll notice, Fu Sheng only throws (1) kick during the whole film [at the end] and
most of his other scenes are "Talkin & Knife throwing". So, technically, he may have had
an injury in (1977). As you'll recall Brave Archer-1, didn't call for a lot of action/movement
on his part. This was the least he had ever moved in a film [and these were Action Films].

Studios release films at varying times. Chang's films were released many times, up to
(9) months apart [from the time a film is finished], til its' release date.
bjv

Great info! You read my mind, concerning the performance of Alexander in Life Gamble. One kick, and the rest of the time talking and "knife throwing". I noticed his style of stand up. The feet positions. Despite all those facts he got to tint his character with a dark, mysterious air sorrounding him, because he was a good actor! Maybe Teako170 have some pictures to see on here or is forbidden? A picture is more than thousend words. :monkey16

Alexandra

teako170

06-14-2009, 09:57 PM

Maybe Teako170 have some pictures to see on here or is forbidden? A picture is more than thousend words.

You'll find some rather large images of Fu Sheng in this thread (http://kungfucinema.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5870).
If you have something specific in mind, I do do requests (unlike a certain Dr. Johnny Fever).

The Dragon

06-15-2009, 01:13 AM

Does anyone know if Fu Sheng spoke any English?

teako170

06-15-2009, 02:21 AM

Does anyone know if Fu Sheng spoke any English?

Since he lived in Hawaii in his youth, I'm pretty sure he picked up some English.
Whether he was fluent or not I cannot say.

David Rees

06-16-2009, 12:16 PM

I heard that Hammer were going to do a third action film with Fu Sheng but after both Legend Of The 7 Golden Vampires and Shatter were box office flops they never bothered. He would have spoken English in that. Don't know how true these stories were.

MarsHarmony

06-17-2009, 08:59 PM

Since he lived in Hawaii in his youth, I'm pretty sure he picked up some English.
Whether he was fluent or not I cannot say.

Oh great Teako170! In your magnificent collection of publications and what not's, have you ever read WHEN Fu Sheng and the family lived in Hawaii??????????????
I have been trying to find out for YEARS and YEARS!
If you don't know, I still think you are great, and thank you for your time.

teako170

06-18-2009, 07:42 PM

Sorry Mars. My "best guess" is late 60s/ (very) early 70s.

MarsHarmony

06-19-2009, 04:25 AM

Thanks for looking, oh great one, and I appreciate your best guess. YAY!

Alexandra

06-19-2009, 10:08 PM

Ok, MarsHarmony says that Teako170 rocks ... and I'm jealous... ok! nobody clarified my what happened with the injuries suffered by Alexander and how them affected his work, because don't tell me that with such disasters all the projects were well done, in time, etc.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!:monkey13

Alexandra (suffering like Maria Magdalena)

teako170

06-19-2009, 10:48 PM

Appreciate the enthusiasm guys but I'm far from great
(unless you talk to some of my ex's and then they might tell you a different story .... but I digress).

OK.. "ahem" (clearing throat).... ;)

Not sure what info you're seeking Alexandra, as this has been posted in the past, but to recap:

AFS had two serious injuries in 1978 & 79. Known as "Black September," these two accidents both occurred in the month of Sept.; one year apart. First accident occurred while filming "Deadly Breaking Sword." Fu Sheng was supposedly not feeling well a week before the accident but continued to work. He fell on the set, back first, hitting his head on an urn. He had a concussion and there was internal bleeding. He wore a neck brace for a few months, continued to suffer dizzy spells for some time, and even visited a specialist in the UK.

The second accident occurred on the set of "Heroes Shed No Tears" in which he broke his right leg. He was out of action for several months and his injury affected several pictures including HSNT, Brave Archer 3, Return of the Sentimental Swordsman, and two others. During this "down time" he followed Jenny around, who was on tour, and visited the US and Canada.

I hope this answers your questions.

clfnole

06-20-2009, 02:24 AM

Never cared much for HSNT, Fu Sheng always seemed out of place in that one for me.

Alexandra

06-21-2009, 05:06 PM

Not sure what info you're seeking Alexandra, as this has been posted in the past, but to recap:

AFS had two serious injuries in 1978 & 79. Known as "Black September," these two accidents both occurred in the month of Sept.; one year apart. First accident occurred while filming "Deadly Breaking Sword." Fu Sheng was supposedly not feeling well a week before the accident but continued to work. He fell on the set, back first, hitting his head on an urn. He had a concussion and there was internal bleeding. He wore a neck brace for a few months, continued to suffer dizzy spells for some time, and even visited a specialist in the UK.

The second accident occurred on the set of "Heroes Shed No Tears" in which he broke his right leg. He was out of action for several months and his injury affected several pictures including HSNT, Brave Archer 3, Return of the Sentimental Swordsman, and two others. During this "down time" he followed Jenny around, who was on tour, and visited the US and Canada.

I hope this answers your questions.

Hello friend! I posted the title "thank you for nothing" as a bad translation in english of a castilian rogue speech, ironically of course.
Your information is good. But is not clear the time of the shot and release of the movies in 1978 and 1979, as example Proud Twins and Life Gamble, both movies were shot and released before the accident? If so, I don't understand why in Life Gamble Alexander do absolutely nothing.
I read that he could not accept the character in Eagle in the Snake Shadow, that was for the first of the second accident?
Ok, don't disturb anymore with my doubts, hahhahahah!
Thanks a lot!
Alexandra

Alexandra

06-25-2009, 03:28 PM

Never cared much for HSNT, Fu Sheng always seemed out of place in that one for me.

Hello
That is my thinking when I saw Alexander in some movies directed by Chang Cheh. Not the case of Heroes Shed no Tears (directed by Chor Yuen). I mean "what was the concept of protagonist for this director?" (Chang Cheh). I know the taste of CC for the multiple cast (and I know that was the fashion in kung fu movies of the seventies), for me, a terrible way of make a show in a mix that confuss all in the same box. Of course the people loves to see the stars in a movie, but if you follow the mainlines of making cinema, you have first and foremost a mega star (call it 'protagonist' or 'first character') and another star as countepart (call it "deuteragonist' or 'second character') and maybe the "third in discordance" (call it "tritagonist" or "third character") (you can see this clearly in Avenging Eagle, Alexander protagonist, Ti Lung as the second and the old evil man the king of the eagles clan as the third) The triangle in acting create a kind of dramatic forces that they can flow or be broken. And this is the secret of a good script and screenplay.
Yes, i understand that I follows the principles of theater characters but they fits well on screen. And you must have a good script of course. If you put in a movie dozens of "protagonists" you probably enter in a mess and disorders of sequences (because you want to show all of them) and you get lost in the script and the sequences. If you takes the saga of Shaolin (Heroes Two, Shaolin Temple, Men from the Monastery and Five Shaolin Masters) of CC you will notice that besides the troubles of shooting the prequel and the sequel, Alexander together with Chi Kuan Chun have a leadership on screen-. As on the contrary, when you see the saga of Brave Archer, or Life Gamble, Alexander displaced, and the "protagonists" seems to be others. I love of course CC but as I said in other messages, but I don't like the way he directed his "beloved babyface mega star". I prefer Alexander directed by Sun Chung, Chor Yuen, Lau Kar Leung, Lau Kar Wing or even Wong Jing in HK Playboys.

But as usual, just my opinion and repeat sorry my english...
Alexandra

MarsHarmony

06-27-2009, 11:38 PM

Fu Sheng does seem out of place in Heroes Shed No Tears. But that is what works about that, his character has lived up on the mountain his whole life, and is sent with the sword to realize its destiny. He is the flame of destruction coming, the destroyer of what is at the heart of the matter. Unlooked for, unwanted, his character must navigate in a world he does not belong to, but will change ultimately. An innocent Shiva, set on his path to change what he doesn't even know what to change. I just think it works well.

I read once that at Shaw, CC was obligated to feature new starlets in many of his films. So I just wonder if there were contractual obligations that actor A had to be in so many films per contract, maybe Run Run thought it was economical to use as many actors as possible - hahahhahaa.
However that went, we return to the protagonist question. I think at the core, most stories that deal with the great heroes of China, also deal with the forces and people that helped shape that hero. The emphasis seems to never be in the individual accomplishment, but in the union of the peoples will, against oppression, tyranny and injustice. This is particularly true of the Shaolin cycle. The individual is only a part of the greater whole, but through his lack of "ego", can strive for the greater good of all. I think the intention would be, that through the denial of self interest, the individual then becomes a hero. The spirit is really the hero , the collective energy of loyalty and righteousness is the protagonist, and thus all who participate become the hero manifest. The union of the many gives power to the "one finger conquers China", the many make up the one. And no, it does not fit well with our occidental ideas of theater, but I think that was what CC was trying to underline, that the gathering of forces, and combining strengths is the way to achieve the goal. This is just the germ of an idea, granted, but that is my impression. When he makes the "weapons" movies, heroes with weapons and what not, then it gets a little easier to be more critical of the individual hero style. But since I have been dwelling in the Shaolin cycle films, I need to go watch some of CC's more classic hero style films, and develop idea as CC moves through his cannon of titles. ( oh god, that leaves the Brave Archer series for Fu Sheng) hahahhahahahahaha
I will have to get some more Ti Lung CC movies. ahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaa

Iron Boat

06-28-2009, 01:05 PM

Chang Cheh, imo, is responsible for Fu Sheng's most memorable roles and films, how you guys can put down his work with CC is mind numbing.

MarsHarmony

06-29-2009, 06:18 AM

I think I spoke well of Chang Cheh. I only made fun of the Brave Archer series because 3 and 4 are not as good as the first one. I love the Shaolin cycle. "Na Cha" is my favorite movie of all, thanks to CC for making them. Not sure why you thought I was putting him down.

Alexandra

07-01-2009, 03:44 PM

Chang Cheh, imo, is responsible for Fu Sheng's most memorable roles and films, how you guys can put down his work with CC is mind numbing.

No no no, sometimes is hard to explain but I am very grateful with Chang Cheh for put Alexander on screen of course, otherwise I would be and hypocrite. But as a director, in an objective point of view, some times makes me feel lost in his intentions.
But remember too, Alexander came into his life in a precious moment: he saw in the "babyface" a newbie actor for his future successes on screen... nobody is naiv...Meanwhile Meng Fei was a storm at the screen in Taiwan (after the release of Fang Shih Yu in 1972) Oh surprise! Chang Cheh picked up Alexander in 1973 in the SB for make this character whom catapulted him (and the director collected something of course) to fame and money!!!

Repeat: sometimes is hard to explain myself very good in enlish, Chang Cheh was the grandfather of the Kung Fu Movies, my all rispects for his talent and career, love him for put Alexander on screen, but I have my point of view.

Alexandra

Alexandra

07-01-2009, 03:47 PM

We, friend, enter to the fatal week for the life of our dear Alexander. My proposal is give all the time in this thread all the good memories and honours he deserves. And keep his "flame" alive, remember all the good things he left to all of us. He, the most brilliant star in heaven.
Alexandra

MarsHarmony

07-03-2009, 07:27 AM

The most brilliant, warmest, sweetest beautiful smile ever!

Blutsbruder

07-06-2009, 04:52 PM

Tomorrow, on the 7th of July, we have to say goodbye to our beloved Fu Sheng for the 26th time. It is still so painful after all this years. His candle will burn forever in our hearts.

Please excuse my melancholy.

One of my best friends, her name was maria (we were like twins in soul), was born on this magically date: The 07.07. She died also very young, at the age of 29 on cancer. She died at John Hurts birthday, the 22.01.

I miss them both so very much.

Alexandra

07-07-2009, 10:16 PM

I would like to thank Chang Fu Sheng for his marvelous life, and his legacy.
In his short life, after 10 years of working in Shaw Brothers Studios, he left 42 movies but most important, he was a source of inspiration. The people who
are "one of a kind" walk a little in our world and leave us very soon. We may ask "Why?" ... the most peculiar answer I can find is that God needed him most. Now he is next to Him, smiling forever, he got the eternal peace, the eternal time, the eternal space.

The ancient egyptians had a speech, special one, that says: when you pronouce the name and the presence of a death person, every day and every time, this person will be alive forever and ever. This person will never perish, never forget, never alone.

Thanks Chang Fu Sheng for gave me the chance to know you in such way, I always love you.

Alexandra

MarsHarmony

07-08-2009, 02:32 AM

Well said my friend and sister.

Daigoro

07-08-2009, 03:15 AM

http://tieba.baidu.com/%B8%B5%C9%F9/tupian

VenomsFan

07-11-2009, 05:06 AM

Kung Foolery

07-11-2009, 05:33 AM

Was never a big fan, but thats just me.

Fightingfist

07-11-2009, 12:52 PM

Might watch sum of his movies.

Alexandra

07-11-2009, 11:55 PM

all due respects. but Fu Sheng doesn't "look" that Asian does he? Could this be why he was more successful than his counterparts? The Venoms. Ti Lung, etc.?

he was more (appearance wise) suitable for western audiences?

he definitely wasn't a better a (on screen) martial artist than many of the other Shaw stars.

I edited the message because I misunderstood your word "look" ... sorry. Success comes when the actor have talent and charisma to tresspass the screen and touch the heart of the audience, and this is a gift of God. No matter if he "looks" like a classic asiatic one.

The Venoms were awesome. I have no doubt about. All the SB stars were brilliant in their ways of expressions.
Alexandra

VenomsFan

07-12-2009, 02:41 AM

niro

07-12-2009, 07:33 PM

thanks for the informative lecture.

before i read more on Fu Sheng I had a feeling he was nowhere near as talented as the other Shaw actors (like the ones who came from the Chinese Opera backgrounds). talent wise ALOT of these guys were superior to Fu Sheng at the time.

regardless of "looks", i am trying to understand the fascination with him.

ability-wise and physically he was not comparison to say any of the Venoms family or other Shaw seasoned veterans at that time.

shall our debate continue that he was a better actor or martial arts performer than his counterparts?

It is because Fu Sheng gives off a sense of charisma and friendly mischief that attracts people, thats what i felt when i saw a couple of films with him starring in it.

I can see where your coming from regarding his looks and how westerners of that time would look at him.

VenomsFan

07-13-2009, 12:55 AM

It is because Fu Sheng gives off a sense of charisma and friendly mischief that attracts people, thats what i felt when i saw a couple of films with him starring in it.

I can see where your coming from regarding his looks and how westerners of that time would look at him.

true. hmm maybe he was like Chang Cheh's answer to Raymond Chow's Jackie Chan?

AbeRudder

07-13-2009, 06:42 AM

Fu Sheng was an awesome screen fighter, he always performed at a high standard in my opinion. He wasn't acrobatic and he wasnt a super-kicker but he was excellent at performing complex handwork.

FrankBolte

07-13-2009, 02:11 PM

true. hmm maybe he was like Chang Cheh's answer to Raymond Chow's Jackie Chan?

i would say the other way around

Betty Pei Ti

07-13-2009, 03:14 PM

Quite true, FrankyLau!

BaronK

07-13-2009, 04:39 PM

"hmm maybe he was like Chang Cheh's answer to Raymond Chow's Jackie Chan?"

That's not even the same time period.

VenomsFan

07-13-2009, 05:05 PM

That's not even the same time period.

They were stars in the same time period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fu_Sheng#Filmography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chan_filmography

Thanks,
VenomsFan

BaronK

07-14-2009, 03:01 AM

"hmm maybe he was like Chang Cheh's answer to Raymond Chow's Jackie Chan?"

CC found Fu Sheng in '73-'74. Jack hadn't even gotten his eyes done yet. Hence the "That's not even the same time period." reply.

By the time both were really stars at the same time, Fu Sheng wasn't working with CC. CC used him until '78-'79 along with his Venoms team. Not as a solo star. CC never used Fu Sheng as a comedy guy.

VenomsFan

07-14-2009, 04:02 AM

correction. shaw brothers' answer to Jackie Chan. they didn't push any other actor from the Shaw lot more to stardom than they did Fu Sheng.

maybe you have an idea why? because I am at a loss.

Betty Pei Ti

07-14-2009, 07:24 AM

Try this....

http://www.beijingvideo.com/d2a.html

Alexandra

07-14-2009, 06:46 PM

Alexandra, I think that VenomsFan meant his comment in a general aesthetic, rather than anthropological, light!

Anecdotal observation (for what it's worth) from someone who grew up with Han families that emigrated to the US in the 1950's and 60's:
When Fu Sheng came on the scene, I remember people wondering if he were "Eurasian". Comparisons were made to actress Hu Yan Ni (Jenny Hu), whose mother was German. A common sentiment at the time was that the "Eurasian" look was very attractive.

Funny side note: The children of my generation were expected to marry Chinese. The announcement of a marriage to someone of European heritage almost always brought the consolation, "Well, the children will be beautiful."

I edited my message because I understood the word "looks" in ethnological sense, sorry.
Alexandra

Alexandra

07-14-2009, 06:57 PM

shall our debate continue that he was a better actor or martial arts performer than his counterparts?

No, is not necessary at all, I respect your fascination for The Venoms, in my opinion they were fantastic. But not only Fu Sheng, other actors from China or other countries, were all the time underrated in their performances, when the audience ("the audience is sovereing", is a speech of my country) loves them.
Why the audience can't admire a group of actors and feel real passion for one?
Alexandra

Alexandra

07-14-2009, 07:13 PM

They were stars in the same time period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fu_Sheng#Filmography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chan_filmography

Thanks,
VenomsFan

Agree with BaronK

A correction about your info: Fu Sheng came in the SB studios in 1971 and made cameos in Four Riders (1972), Generation Gap (1972), and a good character in Police Force in 1972 with David Chiang. Jackie Chan, until "Hand of Death" from 1976 did not have protagonist characters, he was stunt coordinator until this year. In 1974 Fu Sheng was launched to stardom with Heroes Two. If someone have better information than mine, please, share with us.

Alexandra

Betty Pei Ti

07-14-2009, 07:43 PM

Agree with BaronK

A correction about your info: Fu Sheng came in the SB studios in 1971 and made cameos in Four Riders (1972), Generation Gap (1972), and a good character in Police Force in 1972 with David Chiang.

...in The Thunderbold Fist (1972), Man of Iron (1972) and Young People (1972), too, Alexandra!

MarsHarmony

07-14-2009, 09:48 PM

And don't forget "Fourteen Amazons" 1972.
Oh, and by the way Wang Chung is the star of Police Force, not David Chiang.
What "Old Timer", said, very funny and true. hahahaha what beautiful children haahaha. And although it is not a true "comedy", CC did direct Fu Sheng in "Magnificent Wanderers" from 1977, and it has a light comedy touch. (Though Wu MA , also listed as "director" may have influenced the comedy.
To our dear Venom Fan friend, I recommend seeing Fu Sheng in "Five Shaolin Masters" or "Shaolin Martial Arts", both from his blockbuster year of 1974, he shows his great abilities very well in these. His fights with Wang Lung Wei and Leung Kar Yan, respectively, are the stuff of legend.

Betty Pei Ti

07-14-2009, 10:08 PM

And don't forget "Fourteen Amazons" 1972.
Oh, and by the way Wang Chung is the star of Police Force, not David Chiang.

Indeed, MarsHarmony! Unfortunately I haven't seen 'FA' yet...

I think Alexandra mistakes 'Police Force' for 'Friends'.

Alexandra

07-14-2009, 11:17 PM

Indeed, MarsHarmony! Unfortunately I haven't seen 'FA' yet...

I think Alexandra mistakes 'Police Force' for 'Friends'.

Hello Betty Pei Ti
I checked out the information about those movies:
- Young People (1972) directed by Chang Cheh, with David Chiang, Ti Lung and Chen Kuan Tai
- Generation Gap (1973) directed by Chang Cheh, with David Chiang and Ti Lung
- Police Force (1973) directed by Chang Cheh, and Choi Yeung Ming, with Wong Chung, Lily Li and Alexander Fu Sheng
- Friends (1974) directed by Chang Cheh, with David Chiang, Lily Li and Alexander Fu Sheng

Thank you for mention Thunderbolt Fist (1972), Man of Iron (1972) and thanks MarsHarmony for mention Fourteen Amazons (1972) (all of them says "brief appareance")

Alexandra

Alexandra

07-14-2009, 11:21 PM

By the way.... someone have info about a unfinished work of Alexander, titled "Heroic Family" from 1983, directed by Liu Chia Liang, with Chang Chan Peng, Fu Sheng ---of course---and Lily Li as main characters? Was released by Celestial Films?
Thanks

Alexandra

Betty Pei Ti

07-15-2009, 07:02 AM

Hello Betty Pei Ti
I checked out the information about those movies:
- Young People (1972) directed by Chang Cheh, with David Chiang, Ti Lung and Chen Kuan Tai
- Generation Gap (1973) directed by Chang Cheh, with David Chiang and Ti Lung
- Police Force (1973) directed by Chang Cheh, and Choi Yeung Ming, with Wong Chung, Lily Li and Alexander Fu Sheng
- Friends (1974) directed by Chang Cheh, with David Chiang, Lily Li and Alexander Fu Sheng

Thank you for mention Thunderbolt Fist (1972), Man of Iron (1972) and thanks MarsHarmony for mention Fourteen Amazons (1972) (all of them says "brief appareance")

Alexandra

You're welcome, Alexandra!

Attention: Spoiler Alert!

Young People: Fu Sheng appears in a gang fight, is a spectator during a car race, beats a drum

Generation Gap: Fu Sheng informs some people about what the protagonist (David Chiang) was doing, actually a speaking part

Police Force: Fu Sheng plays the boyfriend of Lily Li, who was killed by defending her, also a friend of the protagonist (Wang Chung), who wants to avenge him.

Friends: Fu Sheng plays a lonsome rich boy, who gets to know David Chiang and his gang, helps David's girlfriend Lily Li and starts to appreciate friendship with all of them.

Man of Iron: Fu Sheng as a guy on a bicycle who informs the protagonist (Chen Kuan Tai).

Four Riders: I think there is a picture of him in the other AFS-Thread. teako posted it.

Sorry, but I haven't seen Thunderbolt Fist and Fourteen Amazons yet.

By the way.... someone have info about a unfinished work of Alexander, titled "Heroic Family" from 1983, directed by Liu Chia Liang, with Chang Chan Peng, Fu Sheng ---of course---and Lily Li as main characters? Was released by Celestial Films?
Thanks

Alexandra

I don't know this title. But I think that could be an alternative title for 'The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter' and yes, this flik was released. Fu Sheng plays a young man who survives a massacre, whereas most of his brothers and his father die. Lily Li plays his mother.

Asmo

07-15-2009, 11:16 AM

Cheung Chin Pang also played one of the Yang brothers that is killed.

Blutsbruder

07-15-2009, 04:32 PM

AFS different hairstyles. Sorry, if I "cut" this thread. But what do you think about it?
I sometimes wanted to cry out loud: "Hey, please, don't do this to him."
His hairstyles often underlines his boyishness a bit too much.
I liked it in "Friends", "Shaolin Boxers", "Disciples of Shaolin" (looked natural). ;)
I hated it, for example, in "Shaolin Martial Arts". :(
What do you think ??

gravedigger666

07-17-2009, 08:20 PM

In most movies fu shengs kicks are not used and mostly low ones fact but in shaolin avengers it appeared to be very good.Not john liu etc level of course but very swift and had high kicks too...Well,I forever recall him pricky but and smiling and justified shaolin moviehero.Scrpitwriter+CC had perfect actor to portray fang shih yu.

teako170

07-17-2009, 11:00 PM

Can't imagine any guy out there not being able to relate to this photo.

A nice candid shot of Jenny yackin' away on the phone.......
while Fu takes care of some "business." :D

http://www.teako170.com/fu_snooze.jpg

Fightingfist

07-17-2009, 11:54 PM

Blutsbruder

07-20-2009, 10:47 AM

To me it looks like a room in a hospital.

crazedjustice888

07-20-2009, 01:49 PM

Thats funny..lol He is sleeping while his lady friend is on the phone. Even the best of marriages have these moments :rolleyes:

Fightingfist

07-20-2009, 02:52 PM

Yh loooool

Blutsbruder

07-20-2009, 07:58 PM

Have a look. It's a photo taken in hospital !! Maybe, after his legandary bonesbrakes !!
That's not funny !!

Alexandra

07-21-2009, 02:47 PM

I don't know this title. But I think that could be an alternative title for 'The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter' and yes, this flik was released. Fu Sheng plays a young man who survives a massacre, whereas most of his brothers and his father die. Lily Li plays his mother.

Thanks Betty Pei Ti for the information about every movie. Very useful.
And concernign "Heroic Family" I agree with you, maybe an alternative title for EDPF (the history of the Yang Family) I saw this movie, in my opinion, a masterpiece.

Alexandra

Alexandra

07-21-2009, 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=teako170;97612]Can't imagine any guy out there not being able to relate to this photo.

A nice candid shot of Jenny yackin' away on the phone.......
while Fu takes care of some "business." :D

http://www.teako170.com/fu_snooze.jpg[/QUOTE

You have impressive pictures Teako, what can I say? Jenny was his manager, he trusted all his business on her --I guess--, but I am not able to relate the shot, I am astonished.

Alexandra

crazedjustice888

07-21-2009, 03:05 PM

Have a look. It's a photo taken in hospital !! Maybe, after his legandary bonesbrakes !!
That's not funny !!

No, I didn't mean that, I just meant that he was doing the stereotypical male thing to do while the girl is on the phone. I apologize if it came off as otherwise.

KUNG FU BOB

07-21-2009, 05:05 PM

Blutsbruder

07-21-2009, 06:47 PM

No, I didn't mean that, I just meant that he was doing the stereotypical male thing to do while the girl is on the phone. I apologize if it came off as otherwise.

Hey, no problem and you're welcome. But after all his injuries, I thought, this could be a "shot" from the hospital. Sedated, cause of his pain for the broken legs. And if you look closer, you will see, that his legs are laying higher.

Blutsbruder

07-21-2009, 06:59 PM

Perhaps Jenny was informing relatives and friends of Fu Sheng's medical status, or trying to reach a specialist? When you are in a hospital bed there's nothing better than having someone you love by your side- no matter what they are doing. Still, a sad picture.

Thanks for your lines. That's what I thought first, too. But, I don't think, that this picture was made after an actual accident. I think, Fu was on the way up. LOL - JMO, cause I don't know the medical care in HK at this time. But his legs aren't in ... (I don't know the medical item in english for this special apparat.)
And, there is a private radio. If this would be an actual accident, there would be no radio.

FrankBolte

07-22-2009, 08:07 AM

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengwedding.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengwedding2.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengwedding3.jpg

Blutsbruder

07-22-2009, 05:31 PM

FrankBolte

07-23-2009, 12:17 AM

Thanks a lot, FranyLau, for this nice pictures, but what would you like to "say" with them ??
Maybe, that "This love was made in heaven", like all the newspapers wrote at their marriage ? In other words "Jenny was always there for him" ?? Please, "Don't let me die in ignorance" !!

nothing really...just found them in my collection and thought I share them here..like those here too.....

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengclf1.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengclf2.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengclf3.jpg

Alexandra

07-23-2009, 12:58 AM

Thanks Franky (Master Franky!) Jenny was absolutely celestial... and Alexander was in love, completely happy. You have a great collection of magazines and pictures, and I would thank to you for posting them on here, in the special thread that I opened thinking in our beloved Fu Sheng.
I will try (not promiss nothing) if a colleague of mine, from the Faculty of Oriental Studies when I work, can translate something. If so, I put the translations here of course.

Alexandra

FrankBolte

07-23-2009, 03:32 AM

Hi Alexandra.....

here are some more for you... Alexander with his Kung fu brother Chi Kuan Chun

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengandchukuanchun.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengandchukuanchun3.jpg

crazedjustice888

07-23-2009, 01:37 PM

Oh...I like those....CHI KUAN CHUN FOREVER!!!!

FrankBolte

07-24-2009, 12:33 AM

oh really ?

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/chikuanchunclfmag.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/fushengandchukuanchun2.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n321/FrankyLau/movies/chikuanchunclf2.jpg

crazedjustice888

07-24-2009, 04:37 PM

:yociexpress06:

Thanks a lot Franky, any idea what they are showing and demoing?

Alexandra

07-24-2009, 07:16 PM

Master Franky!!! Thanks for upload those magnific pictures!!! I guess, reading the question of our friend, that in one magazine, Alexander is doing something related with Choy Li Fat and the technique of long pole, and then, with Chi Kuan Chun, maybe is Hung Gar huh? You better say the correct technique that they are showing up. :16_003:
It was a pitty that Chi Kuan Chun never felt any deep feeling for Alexander (I read his confessions in Southern Screen Special Fu Sheng), which was his partenaire in several movies... But not found yet any interview of Alexander declaring his relationship with Kuan Chun...he was more close to Ti Lung, Wong Yu and David Chiang.

I need your permission, after the correction of the technique they practiced, for pick up, and work with some images, for make a short video.

Alexandra

crazedjustice888

07-24-2009, 07:23 PM

Alexandra

07-24-2009, 07:45 PM

Hello Alexandra, what did Chi Kuan Chun think about Alexander? Also, Chi Kuan Chun is a Hung Gar practitioner all the way to the best of my knowledge.

Oh Chi Kuan Chun is very good, indeed! And his performances too! (good "scenic presence")

The short interview fron 1986 of Chi Kuan Chun is in German, I put here only the title, because my translation could be wrong or weak, so if Blutsbruder is in the thread, we can ask her to translate.
Title: "Wir waren niemals freunde" (We never have been friends)

Alexandra

Alexandra

07-24-2009, 07:53 PM

In this thread on page 9, Master Franky told something about the introduction of Disciples of Shaolin, he mentioned that Alexander showed the "iron thread fist" (tit sin kuen) but when I tried to open the picture he posted, I could not open it. Now I have the movie, I will try to find the position of the hit in this sequence in a screencapture and upload the picture, if I can! :khi9a:
Don't let me with the doubt in mind!
Alexandra

crazedjustice888

07-24-2009, 09:15 PM

Oh Chi Kuan Chun is very good, indeed! And his performances too! (good "scenic presence")

The short interview fron 1986 of Chi Kuan Chun is in German, I put here only the title, because my translation could be wrong or weak, so if Blutsbruder is in the thread, we can ask her to translate.
Title: "Wir waren niemals freunde" (We never have been friends)

Alexandra

Thats interesting...they seemed to have gotten along really well....hhmmm even in pictures off set. I hope someone could translate it and accurately...

Betty Pei Ti

07-24-2009, 10:41 PM

Title: "Wir waren niemals Freunde" (We never have been friends)

Your translation is correct, Alexandra! :-)

ching li

07-24-2009, 11:58 PM

I think chi kuan chun and fu sheng might have had a good working relationship, but that's probably it. Some people just work and have a good working relationship, but don't hang out together beyond the job. Just like Gene wilder and richard pryor, had wonderful onscreen chemistry and a good working relationship, but it was said they weren't friends.

FrankBolte

07-25-2009, 12:42 AM

Hi Alexandra,all these pictures are from chinese magazines called "choy Li Fut"...
Choi Li Fut is asouthern chinese kung fu style . Fu Sheng did learm some CLF for the movie new shaolin boxers...you can use those pics for whatever u like. :)

Alexandra

07-26-2009, 12:32 AM

Thats interesting...they seemed to have gotten along really well....hhmmm even in pictures off set. I hope someone could translate it and accurately...

As I understand reading the interview (is very short), Chi Kuan Chun never felt any friendship for Alexander. He were good partners on screen, even in the reharsals, but in private life, they were not friends.
But seems that Chi Kuan Chun underestimate him a little...

It was normal in the jet set that two actors or actress were good partners on screen and that no means friendship necessary. Even they could hate themselves in private life but shine on screen!

Alexandra

Alexandra

07-26-2009, 01:21 AM

But, I don't think, that this picture was made after an actual accident. I think, Fu was on the way up. LOL - JMO, cause I don't know the medical care in HK at this time. But his legs aren't in ... (I don't know the medical item in english for this special apparat.)
And, there is a private radio. If this would be an actual accident, there would be no radio.

Hello Blutsbruder
I think in the background, and the furniture. Seems to be an hospital room. Above the bed is a light with a wire, like in every hospital room. The bed is an orthopedic one. And the medical care in HK was very good, I guess, normal as in other countries. The bed, at the end, is raised up, because the leg he broken, must be in high position, for preventing blood congestion. The other leg, the healthy one, is flexed.
Concerning the radio, his presence seems normal to me since he was in recovery, we do the same all the times when some painful situation push us to an hospital, our family bring to us flowers, radio, magazines (look at the magazine on his lap) everything for entertainment because to be in recovery is annoying.

Alexandra

crazedjustice888

07-26-2009, 03:12 AM

As I understand reading the interview (is very short), Chi Kuan Chun never felt any friendship for Alexander. He were good partners on screen, even in the reharsals, but in private life, they were not friends.
But seems that Chi Kuan Chun underestimate him a little...

It was normal in the jet set that two actors or actress were good partners on screen and that no means friendship necessary. Even they could hate themselves in private life but shine on screen!
Alexandra

Well thats interesting...I guess he did but CKC is still my hero...lol

Betty Pei Ti

07-26-2009, 10:42 AM

@Alexandra, this is my translation of the interview with CKC you mentioned above:

We have never been friends

Taipeh. In an interview (1986) with ‘Taipei Times’ CKC commented - above other issues - on his professional and personal relationship to his permanent partner on screen Fu Sheng. This is an excerpt of this interview.

Question: During your time at Shaw Brothers you nearly work all the time along with Fu Sheng. Have you also been friends in real life ?

CKC: On the contrary. I might say that there has never been a basis for a friendship. I know, of the dead speak no evil, but with all due respect, for my taste he was far too superficial, too simple minded and too alien to me to feel comfort with him. If you can’t pursue an intelligent, cultivated conversation with someone, one can spare an unnecessary contact. There is no need to, isn’t it ?

Question: Your collaboration must have been a tough one ?

CKC: Once again no. Not at all! The collaboration in front of the camera worked like a charm. We had an excellent director and a great crew, who managed to make even him, who didn’t really know much about Martial Arts, always look good. Nothing more was required and there have been many excellent results. But he was a really good comedian und he could easily adjust. That sufficed, because we all are in a profession where appearances have to be deceiving.

Reference: Southern Screen Revisited - The Shaw Brothers Fanzine, Special Edition SB Stars # 01

peringaten

07-26-2009, 12:33 PM

CKC says Fu Sheng didn't really know much martials at the time, but it's indisputable LKL trained him as a student off screen... so...Anyone have any idea around what time/age Fu Sheng started training Hung Gar under Lau Kar Leung? Was he just launched into it around time of Men From The Monastery or did he have previous instruction? Maybe he started on-screen with that, but didn't start full training LKL until sometime after? etc... Was Lau Hung Gar his only true martial discipline off screen? Any ideas/knowledge?

Iron Boat

07-26-2009, 03:04 PM

Wow, CKC seems to have the most honest and realistic take on Fu Sheng I've ever read, most simply resort to nostalgia when describing their relationship with him. I respect CKC for that honesty.

VenomsFan

07-26-2009, 04:19 PM

so fu sheng didn't even know martial arts

peringaten

07-26-2009, 10:26 PM

so fu sheng didn't even know martial artsProbably not to the extent of CKC when they were working together, but Lau Kar Leung trained Fu Sheng off-screen in Hung Gar. Fu Sheng knew martial arts.

Alexandra

07-27-2009, 12:54 AM

Reference: Southern Screen Revisited - The Shaw Brothers Fanzine, Special Edition SB Stars # 01

Thanks Betty! Your translation is super, I recommend to all the people here to pay attention to Betty"s work.

Alexandra

FrankBolte

07-27-2009, 01:37 AM

Probably not to the extent of CKC when they were working together, but Lau Kar Leung trained Fu Sheng off-screen in Hung Gar. Fu Sheng knew martial arts.

in the early 70s when they made the shaolin movies Fu Sheng just learned from LKL at shaw studios at that time he learned hung kuen,but not as in joining a proper martial arts school,yes CKC was a hung kuen practicioner coming from Chiu Wai (brother of Chiu Chi Ling)..so that why CKC probably didnt take fu sheng serious when it came to martial arts,but the longer fu sheng trained the better he became..he also took Choy Li Fut lessons for new shaolin boxers...that was 1975 right? In the intro of disciples of shaolin he plays the highest set of hung kuen the iron thread fist...I dont think that Fu Sheng was a bad martial artist..maybe in the beginning but he must have picked up fast..also fu Sheng was a way better onscreen fighter than CKC..I agree off screen CKC is better as he has a solid foundation..Lau Kar Leung is a real Hung Gar master but he simply didnt have the time at shaw brothers to teach all the actors the basics and foundation..since they were always under pressure to finish films....imo theres a bit of jealousy in CKC's statement..heres a real hung gar practicioner but hes always the sidekick of a non-martial artist who plays the great hung gar master....its quite understandable.

MarsHarmony

07-27-2009, 01:41 AM

Thanks Betty! Your translation is super, I recommend to all the people here to pay attention to Betty"s work.

Alexandra

Thank you for the great translation of the article. Super.

"did not even know martial arts................."?????
Fu Sheng started to learn Martial Arts before "Men From The Monastery"
His first film fight is in "Police Force" (1973), and his skill and ability is very evident at the ripe old age of 19.
I hold to the rumor that he studied judo in Hawaii, and that would be before 1971. Until someone can disprove that theory anyway.
Chi Kuan Chun is a fantastic and superior martial artist, no doubt, too bad he did not get along well with Fu Sheng, but they work very well on screen together. They have many truly good scenes together.
LKL and LKW both taught Fu Sheng, and their attention to him is obvious, and they tailored their choreography to make him look so good. But it really is only todays thinking, that any one can look good through CG, and wire flying. Fu Sheng learned fast and well. His form work is outstandingly beautiful, his speed is breathtaking, his timing is immaculate and he improved and improved and improved. None of if was done through camera tricks or computer graphics. No he is not Bruce Lee, nor Chen Kuan Tai, nor Chi Kuan Chun, but his style is his own, well trained and beautiful to watch.

VenomsFan

07-27-2009, 04:02 AM

well the difference in his skill is obvious. i never knew he was "taught" martial arts only for movie roles. like keanu reeves in the matrix lol. well the real skill and talent was in the opera trained guys (NOT just the Venoms). but you know, the guys who were trained in that work since they were very very young.

all his films i watched, the guy hasn't even done a backflip. and alot of his hand to hand looks the same after awhile. i've come to accept he is not a martial arts actor. but just an actor who had some martial arts movies, but that was obviously NOT his forte.

Iron Boat

07-27-2009, 01:24 PM

Some of u guys sound slightly upset with CKC's remarks but u have to consider that in his eyes perhaps Fu Sheng looked every bit the untrained martial artist. We only see whats on film, CKC saw it all

VenomsFan

07-27-2009, 02:48 PM

i could tell by seeing his films he was no real martial artist. he was nowhere as good as his counterparts. the ckc interview only confirmed that for me.

crazedjustice888

07-27-2009, 03:28 PM

I agree with Franky on the comment how CKC might have been jealous. I mean come on, the man is a master in his own right, but he always got put on the back burner for the younger and more elegant looking actor. However, CKC is still my hero in all aspects. I also give him props for staying truthful and iron boat is right, we might have seen his gracefulness on the screen, but CKC saw him on and off. However, I still love both of their movies.:yociexp77:

peringaten

07-27-2009, 05:25 PM

all his films i watched, the guy hasn't even done a backflip.I don't think backflips are practical in Southern martial arts like Hung Gar.

I don't know I've only the vaguest novice understanding of such arts, but the more I begin to understand the more I begin to see. I watched a few of the Shaolin series of late, seems Fu Sheng did more gung gee like foundation movements in the choreo; CKC more advanced animal sets; I guess a tell-tale representation of their skill levels. I've almost no understanding of applications and the like, but even I'm starting to get how they come out of initial foundation and form. I can't believe Fu Sheng even initially learning bits of Gung Gee & Fu Hok tiger & crane & Iron Wire, etc. would not have a gist of application & how to use them in real life or use them to develop conditioning and would not have developed such doing this movie after movie after movie on & off-screen. Especially hanging around LKL a bit to training under him. That constitutes knowing martial arts to me; not flipping so much.

Blutsbruder

07-27-2009, 06:49 PM

@Betty: Thanks a lot for your translation. It's perfect !!

@VanomsFan: I started prefering the Venoms, after I wrote their biographies. But, before I did this, I watched almost all their movies. The Venom, I like most is "Lu Feng".
You are right: Most of the guys started in traditional Chinas Opera, or came from martial arts world. But this is no reason to underestimate boys like Fu Sheng. It maybe true, that he never trained in a dojo (like I trained Karate for years). But his skills, and most of all, his charisma as an actor and a fighter, was brilliant. Much more brillant, than CKC's. True is, that CKC has learned marial arts, but he hasen't have the present on the big screen like a Fu Sheng. By the way: In the martial art world of movies CKS's nick name was "Stone Face". Ok, not his fault. Because the script writers made him "The Man with no Smile". Btw: Except the long version of "Seven Man Army". In this version you can see him laugh (I love it!!).

@Peringaten: Backflips aren't important to any kind of material arts. It's the same like breaking stones in Karate. It's nothing else but a show for people, who aren't familiar with the skills and technique, but want to see spectacular things. True is: Backflips are like Hollywoods interpretation of Cowboys playing with revolvers:: Looks nice and easy, but, for a real fight, absolutly not necessary. On the contrary: Counterproductive.

All in all: We have to remember: It's all movie - SB made. It's all made to entertain us. True is: There were a few real Marial Artists. But, their skills aren't any better, than the movie trained actors ones. Because, a movie is like a Sinfonia. Please, always remember: It's a "Dream-World". Never take any thing for real !!

AbeRudder

07-27-2009, 07:37 PM

all his films i watched, the guy hasn't even done a backflip

I haven't seen Lau Kar Leung or Hwang Jang Lee perform backflips either are you going to question their skills? Watch Treasure Hunters, if you doubt Fu Sheng's skills as a on screen martial arts performer then i dont know what to say.

MarsHarmony

07-28-2009, 12:57 AM

:khi8f:

We can never make anyone change their mind. Impossible.
No point trying.
However, Alexandra (the great! tee hee) suggested that I might post some video threads here to help us illustrate the sheer beauty of Fu Sheng learning and performing and honing and owning skills of various Martial Arts...
They are screencapture videos, that I very humbly offer here.

This is Fu Shengs first film from "Police Force" 1973
http://vimeo.com/5751480

From Na Cha the Great, ring and staff work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI9gZL3RkhU

From Na Cha, more staff work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAI-tck2WkU&feature=channel

From Na Cha, ring vs. various weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8trGA6KQRE&feature=channel

and part 2, bare fist vs. various weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dAOIE1F0QY&feature=channel

From New Shaolin Boxers 1976, Fu Sheng performs Choi Li Fut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACjYauGY3C4&feature=channel

These are early and even earlier works of Fu Sheng. And he just kept getting better!
:khi7g:

MarsHarmony

07-28-2009, 01:32 AM

:khi7k:

I meant to add this with the others
Fu Sheng training in "Shaolin Martial Arts" 1974

http://vimeo.com/5756831

:yociexp77:

butcher wing

07-28-2009, 11:51 AM

one of the most rounded actors out of the shaw camp, had a natural look at his kung fu. he is definitely missed, Fu Sheng and Lau Kar Leung anything was a good combo

peringaten

07-28-2009, 04:34 PM

@Peringaten: Backflips aren't important to any kind of material arts. It's the same like breaking stones in Karate. It's nothing else but a show for people, who aren't familiar with the skills and technique, but want to see spectacular things. True is: Backflips are like Hollywoods interpretation of Cowboys playing with revolvers:: Looks nice and easy, but, for a real fight, absolutly not necessary. On the contrary: Counterproductive.Oh yeah, I get this and agree, that's what I was saying; the 'I don't know' part of my post was a precede rather than a proceed from the last bit.

Anyhoo, Fu Sheng, what a dude.

FrankBolte

07-29-2009, 01:50 AM

Fu Sheng was a quick learner,as far as I know he became a proper disciple of LKL in the later 70s. When Fu Sheng died LKL didnt want to teach anymore he was so heartbroken...

The Dragon

07-29-2009, 03:35 AM

Fu Sheng, after I watched New Shaolin Boxers, proved to me that he could be as good an onscreen fighter, as anyone at the time. The way he handled the double Chinese swords, and the double sticks, and the way he handled the forms... Look at the scene where he's practicing Choy Lay Fot with the other student-his techniques are much more crisper and fluid. Chi Kuai Chun was more advanced and a real practicioner, however, he was no Liu Chia Liang.

Fu Sheng...
He was the real deal.

FrankBolte

07-29-2009, 07:42 AM

Alexandra

07-29-2009, 04:39 PM

The Dragon

07-29-2009, 05:06 PM

... and to go even further, Yuen Woo Ping's original chioce for his new idealistic "Kung Fu Comedic" films was none other than Mr. Fu Sheng, who couldn't get out of the Shaws contract at the time to work for an independant co. So, that being said, history could have been quite different, and alas, a simple stuntman (mentioned in a thread elsewhere on this forum in a film with Will Smith's kid) who went on to heights of fame not experienced since Lee Siu Loong, became an international superstar. **sigh.**

Imagine Snake In The Eagle's Shadow and Drunken Monkey In A Tiger's Eye done with Fu Sheng. I think he would have been up to it...
Reason's why:

1.Better actor
2.Greater Charisma
3.Higher box office reciepts
4.Proven fan base
5.A far more attractive artist

There have been others who've disagreed with me on this, however, I feel these comments will be greatly appreciated here, in this thread.

I'm not dissing any other HK star, simply stating the obvious.
...Loudly. :yociexp107:

Blutsbruder

07-29-2009, 05:49 PM

Blood Sword

07-29-2009, 05:49 PM

1.Better actor
2.Greater Charisma
3.Higher box office reciepts
4.Proven fan base
5.A far more attractive artist

1.Opinion,not fact.
2.For Each his/her own
3.fact some time,but as we know situation changed...
4.yeah
5.for you at least

At least Jackie had far more wider experience in martial arts.Fu Shengs knowledge appeared to be limited at time he started to get leading roles,on-screen at least he looked convincing thanks to choreographers....

There were better real deals in Shaw than Fu Sheng...CKT excels him in acting(opinion) and kung-fu (fact).And Gordon Liu,Ti Lung too...

Blutsbruder

07-29-2009, 06:07 PM

1.Opinion,not fact.
2.For Each his/her own
3.fact some time,but as we know situation changed...
4.yeah
5.for you at least

At least Jackie had far more wider experience in martial arts.Fu Shengs knowledge appeared to be limited at time he started to get leading roles,on-screen at least he looked convincing thanks to choreographers....

There were better real deals in Shaw than Fu Sheng...CKT excels him in acting(opinion) and kung-fu (fact).And Gordon Liu,Ti Lung too...

I like your post, cause it demonstrates: All those things and discussions are at least just lying in the eye of the contemplator.

Iron Boat

07-29-2009, 07:03 PM

It feels like some of you guys are such "Fu Sheng" fans that you are trying to elevate him above and beyond. I understand and accept that he is a legend and has a loyal fan base (I myself am a huge fan) but some of you have become revisionist historians, nearly trying to rewrite history. When I watch Fu Sheng I do not see a great martial artist at all, yes his moves look great on film and he executes well but I understand that I'm watching a film. Its called choreography. Some of you say he was taught by LKL, yeah but so what, LKL worked for Shaws with specific instructions to make the actors look like trained martial artist. Obvioulsy LKL did a great job as an action choreographer, David Chaing, Lo Lieh, Leung Kar Yan, etc..often look like great martial artist as well.

What I mean to say is that Fu Sheng imo, is not the best actor or martial artist at Shaws but some of you are definitely trying to make a case for him on this thread. I agree with Blood Sword, that when it comes to real martial arts and real acting Chen Kuan Tai, whose actually underrated in both categories, is probably tops. Now what Fu Sheng is, in my opinion, is the most fun actor Shaw had to offer. This is to his credit and likely one of the main reasons his legacy and the overall positive memories endure.

Once again, Fu Sheng is one of my favorites and I love his films but when I watch the venoms, CKT, CKC, Gordon Liu, or Ti Lung, I do feel as if I'm watching true martial artists. Fu Sheng, on the other hand, though equally enjoyable doesn't conjure that same feeling.

The Dragon

07-30-2009, 02:39 AM

Revisionist historians, eh? It is a fact Yuen Woo Ping wanted Fu Sheng. That was He and Ng See Yuen's first choice. No one is elevating the man any higher than where his popularity is taking him. His life ended suddenly-tragically, however, the man was a fan favorite-even then. Now I know that doesn't translate into great Kung Fu, but he was a student of the game. He was a quick study. When you are talented, sometimes things come easier than for others. I never said he was the best at Shaws, several others could lay that claim, I said he was the real deal. Meaning he could achieve heights more prominent artists could only dream.
The debate over what if is no different than when people debate the same if Bruce Lee would have done Kung Fu instead of Carradine.

VenomsFan

07-30-2009, 03:00 AM

I said he was the real deal. Meaning he could achieve heights more prominent artists could only dream.

is it true Fu Sheng got all banged up a few times for "stunts gone wrong" on the set of a movie or two? apparently he learned the hard way you can't fake or imitate everything you try to just "pick up".

he was an actor that dabbled in martial arts films, but it wasn't his strength.

HongKongMaster

07-30-2009, 10:17 AM

NO WAY fu sheng could have done a movie like POLICE STORY, PROJECT A, DRAGONS FOREVER... he was more in the style of Wits of the brats, Hong Kong Playboy, cat vs Rat, Fake Ghost Catcher etc.... Fu Sheng is nowhere near to be able to do the most easy Jackie's stunt. and Jackie could surely easily reproduce any fu sheng's shapes, Kung Fu or Ring, Sword play... does fu sheng was a fight choreagrapher? No

1.Opinion,not fact.
2.For Each his/her own
3.in your dream
4.Jackie fanbase is so much bigger so...
5.for you at least

The Dragon

07-30-2009, 11:20 AM

Alexandra

07-30-2009, 03:35 PM

I appreciate all those exchanges of opinions. The differences between our points of view make us more rich as persons. But: Is incomprehensible for me that some people can post messages in a thread devoted to any SB star and write disrespectful lines about it. It would be more easy to somebody here who loves another SB star to open a thread devoted for it. If anybody here value the career and the legacy of Alexander, just mention it and make this place a comfortable space for remember the man who gave only ten years of his life in the cinema business and left us too soon.

Alexandra

Blood Sword

07-30-2009, 03:47 PM

Dragon you seem to be snowblind what comes to SIES..I like Fu Sheng too a lot and even as he was 1st choice...you seem to forget audience liked Jackie like hell.All credit to director but jackie was able to perform movements needed to that script.+acting too..movie was massive hit,it`s unlikely been even bigger with fu sheng in it...
Alexander did rise to stardom quicker but he had better forces in background.Shaws had lot money unlikely independent companies jackie was starring in..great talent ultimately reached superstardom.

Alexandra

07-30-2009, 03:59 PM

Help me friends of Alexander Fu Sheng!
Anybody knows if Celestial Pictures released movies with spanish subtitles? I don-t understand why this beautiful language is not considered when the great enterprises release their products worldwide! Following the data of the ONU, spanish language as official language is spoken by 500 million of persons in the world.

I was looking in HKFlix and FiveStarLaser for dvd-s to buy, but all of them =of course= with the option of english subtitles, that is not problem for me but I want to show the dvd-s to people here in my country whom can-t understand english.

Alexandra

Alexandra

07-30-2009, 04:34 PM

http://tieba.baidu.com/%B8%B5%C9%F9/tupian

I forgot to thank you for the link, amazing magazines and pictures. :yociexp66:
I always wants more and more... hahahhaha!
Alexandra

Blutsbruder

07-30-2009, 06:50 PM

Blutsbruder

07-30-2009, 07:14 PM

First of all: I love this thread, because "It keeps the man alive". Equal, whether you like him or not.

Sorry, but I watched all the Ti Lung, David Chiang and Jackie Chan interwies, I could get as extras on DVD or on Youtub. The guys were so honest in telling about their work at a film set. No one of them was "A real Martial Artist" (what ever this my be). And all of this big stars of the screen were telling their secrets. So, why do we have to burn our heads, when even the stars don't do it ??

I have a special Jackie DVD, where he tells his secrets of his "Screen Martial Arts". Btw, he is telling us, that he could never win a fight against two aggressors. He tells this with a big smile on his face !!

Peace !!

We are all fans of SB-Movies. But we prefer different heroes. So, let us try to get them all under one hat !!

Yours,
Blutsbruder

The Dragon

07-30-2009, 09:05 PM

Last comment on JC:

Blood Sword, know the history... many forget Mr. JC was box office poison under Lo Wei's film co. His career was headed toward the toilet route at breakneck speed until Ng See Yuen and Woo Ping called him back from Australia, rescuing him from being a Carpenter/Cab Driver/Shoe Salesman/Pizza Delivery Boy-(whatever he was doing), gave him a shot with SITES. He was not I repeat, NOT anywhere near BO gold until after the success of Drunken Master.
Fu Sheng was already an established star-Still on the rise at this time, which is why he was originally considered.
Look it up...

Meanwhile, Mr. Fu Sheng was in HK with beloved Jenny, on TVB singing Peaches and Herb's #1 hit: "You Don't Have To Be A Star Baby, To Be In My Show"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV6t2EeHxbw

:yociexp102:

Blood Sword

07-30-2009, 09:12 PM

Last comment on JC:

Blood Sword, know the history... many forget Mr. JC was box office poison under Lo Wei's film co. His career was headed towrd the toilet route at breakneck speed until Ng See Yuen and Woo Ping gave him a shot with SITES. He was not I repeat, NOT anywhere near BO gold until after the success of Drunken Master.
Fu Sheng was already an established star-Still on the rise at this time, which is why he was originally considered.
Look it up...
I know the history...what do you think of Fu Sheng would become if needed to work with awful scripts,bad supportive actors,no money on costumes etc...do you think he would have become star overnight then???????Most "stars" need to take many steps in stairways to stardom,for fu sheng it did not take so long because had chang cheh and shaw brothers behind him.fu sheng was good that I do not deny

Blood Sword

07-30-2009, 10:01 PM

MarsHarmony

07-31-2009, 12:02 AM

is it true Fu Sheng got all banged up a few times for "stunts gone wrong" on the set of a movie or two? apparently he learned the hard way you can't fake or imitate everything you try to just "pick up".

he was an actor that dabbled in martial arts films, but it wasn't his strength.

... this has been posted in the past, but to recap:
AFS had two serious injuries in 1978 & 79. Known as "Black September," these two accidents both occurred in the month of Sept.; one year apart. First accident occurred while filming "Deadly Breaking Sword." Fu Sheng was supposedly not feeling well a week before the accident but continued to work. He fell on the set, back first, hitting his head on an urn. He had a concussion and there was internal bleeding. He wore a neck brace for a few months, continued to suffer dizzy spells for some time, and even visited a specialist in the UK.
The second accident occurred on the set of "Heroes Shed No Tears" in which he broke his right leg {He fell when the wire for a flying stunt broke}. He was out of action for several months and his injury affected several pictures including HSNT, Brave Archer 3, Return of the Sentimental Swordsman, and two others.

Yes, Fu Sheng should have practiced his falling from great heights more. Jackie Chan must not be very good either, look at all the accidents he has had. Bruce Lee got hurt by a mistimed stunt filming "Enter the Dragon", he is such a novice. Lo Meng, in an interview, pointed to many broken bones he had recieved in the course of training and filming, he cant be very proficient. Chin Tsui Ho, who later joined the Venoms, said in an interview that "getting hurt was part of the job", all those years of studying just to get hurt, such a waste of time. Jet Li has broken several bones, including his nose, how did a guy like that ever win so many China National Wushu championships??? Chen Kuan Tai said, "we worked very hard", but accidents happen, maybe they should take his 1969 South East Asia Champion title from him, he is obviously just a rookie. Tony Jaa said, " There are always injuries; in Ong-Bak and this movie, The Protector. There was one scene where I tore my muscles because I wanted to double-leap from each wall. At first, I wanted to do three, but then I wanted to beat the record. 1-2-3-4. I tore my muscle."
tsk tsk! They should not dabble in martial arts.

The Dragon

07-31-2009, 03:34 AM

Yes, Fu Sheng should have practiced his falling from great heights more. Jackie Chan must not be very good either, look at all the accidents he has had. Bruce Lee got hurt by a mistimed stunt filming "Enter the Dragon", he is such a novice. Lo Meng, in an interview, pointed to many broken bones he had recieved in the course of training and filming, he cant be very proficient. Chin Tsui Ho, who later joined the Venoms, said in an interview that "getting hurt was part of the job", all those years of studying just to get hurt, such a waste of time. Jet Li has broken several bones, including his nose, how did a guy like that ever win so many China National Wushu championships??? Chen Kuan Tai said, "we worked very hard", but accidents happen, maybe they should take his 1969 South East Asia Champion title from him, he is obviously just a rookie. Tony Jaa said, " There are always injuries; in Ong-Bak and this movie, The Protector. There was one scene where I tore my muscles because I wanted to double-leap from each wall. At first, I wanted to do three, but then I wanted to beat the record. 1-2-3-4. I tore my muscle."
tsk tsk! They should not dabble in martial arts.

I love it!
:yociexp111:

Alexandra

08-01-2009, 12:35 AM

I do remember seeing post in forums(but cannot find it) where Alexandra says Fu Sheng looked better with about any1 else director other than Chang Cheh.Now that is badmouthing both CC and Fu Sheng (IMO of course)...maybe he would have been more suited to films like hong kong playboys but he was good in cc cinema..same I cannot say about cat vs.rat and much beloved legendary weapons,

I refresh your memory
In the post #´46 "... affection for director Sun Chung... don-t convince me CC sometimes"
In the post # 64 "... several times I said that he (CC) never convinced me"
In the post # 108 "... I love of course CC ... but I don-t like the way he directed AFS"
In the post # 117 "... sometimes makes me feel lost in his intentions..."

That is to say
Yes, I understand very well that CC was the father of the Kung Fu Cinema.
Yes, I am very grateful because CC put on screen in many movies AFS.
Yes, I estimate him as a director of the SB studios

But that not means
1. I never wanted to putting him down, just only expressed my opinion, because he was the father of the Kung Fu Cinema and launched AFS to stardom do not means that I must love his way of shooting in all his films.
2. I never lost the point of view that AFS was the strawberry over the chantilly cake of his planes about the new era of youngs actors, and he was very smart to contract him (under serious laws contractual claims)
3. I appreciate the work of CC as a director, in the way of shooting in Na Cha, all the saga of Fang Shih Yu, or Five Element Ninja, as examples. In my opinion, he is brilliant in outrageous scripts and scenarios.
4. Because he was the director whom launched AFS into fame, that not means that I must worship him like an idol. I like very much the way of directing of Sun Chung and Lau Kar Leung.

And repeat
It is necessary an "chemical emphaty" between the director and the actor. At the first times, CC showed up the best of his "precious stone" (machine of making money) AFS, but later, AFS itself had disagreements with this director.

Alexandra

Alexandra

08-02-2009, 05:10 PM

Of course there are AFS movies with spanish subtitles. I, myself, pushed my spanish guy to watch them !!

Where? In Germany? Tell me... thanks!:yociexp103:
Alexandra

MarsHarmony

08-02-2009, 09:00 PM

There is a wonderful interview with Chang Tao, a.k.a. Kong Do, one of the great Shaw Brothers villians, from the Celestial DVD of Na Cha the Great on YouTube. He speaks of the studio, the wonderful Chang Cheh and of Fu Sheng. It is a real treat! If you have not seen it here are the links for parts 1 and 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09UjE8FYT8Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df7_en6tbB0

There is also a great documentary with Gordon Liu, and a few others, speaking about Hung Gar and it's many techniques. Fu Sheng is featured, quite well, in demonstrating the art of Hung Gar. It is in three parts, and was posted fairly recently. It is very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5brdVxZDh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r8CKfLuTik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3IYZQT3J4

:26_003:

Alexandra

08-06-2009, 01:11 AM

Oh MarsHarmony thank you for the link about the interview of Chang Tao, I love it... He seems to be a straight person, who catched the real personality of Alexander, he says "he was very smart, quick" ... "he always was in good mood, after shooting all the day he use to invite us to take some drink"... not the same words of course...
I saw many "behind the scenes" of contemporary chinese action or fantasy movies and is really very hard to work on them, with all the parafernalia and the CGI, the actors must to deal with hard training, suffering pain in their bodies, the cameramen playing a part on the film (and if they use rails, or derricks, or multiple steady cam, with the assistance of several men), and in battle scenes the set is a nightmare of dozen of people of the crew working twelve hours at day!
Imagine in the seventies, how hard could it be to shooting only with wires and elemental cameras (only after Sun Chung appeared the steady cam) all was made like artisanry, is such a merit to recognize to all the actors, directors, scriptwriters, choreographers, assistants, stunts, etc. whom worked in SB Studios. Chapeau!
Alexandra

jalvarez82

08-06-2009, 02:06 AM

What a shame it was to lose someone so talented at such a young age. He was a truly gifted actor and an effeciently skilled martial artist (one of Lau Kar Leung's pupils, I believe).

His role in The Eight Diagram Pole Fighter was powerful. You can tell he put all of his heart into that role. It's some of the best acting I've ever seen in a classic Martial Arts movie. I also loved him in:

Shaolin Martial Arts (awesome training scenes by Fu Sheng)
Shaolin Disciples
Avenging Eagle

Alexandra

08-12-2009, 12:41 AM

His role in The Eight Diagram Pole Fighter was powerful. You can tell he put all of his heart into that role. It's some of the best acting I've ever seen in a classic Martial Arts movie.

Hello friend
Agree totally with you in your appreciation of the character played by Alexander in EDPF. Some people thinks that was overacted, but in my opinion, he ripped his soul in scene for build the character. I made some sequences of shots of his expressions in the movie, taken in seconds inbetween, with the purpose to examine them like in a lab, seeking his performance. Is absolutely tremendous. I think he built the character thinking in a man who enter in madness but with other "colours" --as in acting speeching -- (no found translation in english) their are the tones or halftones that you can distinguish in: to be out of mind, to be into desesperation, unbridled, wild, hysterical... those emotions are difficult to express without talent and charisma. They are two lines in the movie: the tragedy expressed in the storyline (the fatal destiny of the Yang family) and the tragedy of a man. Both runned in parallel -I guess -in the original script, but must be changed with his death, and deviate the attention to Gordon Liu.
Is not my purpose that all the people agree with me, of course, is my appreciation.

Alexandra

MarsHarmony

08-18-2009, 09:47 PM

Thank you to Venom5 and BaronK for these great web store sites that have tons of Fu Sheng, and SB titles. They had a few that HKFlik.com does not carry, and vice versa.
More buying power for us fans though, and that is good. I was having a very hard time finding region 3 of "Heroes Two", now that Media Blasters is distributing it, and "New Shaolin Boxers" was out of stock everywhere EXCEPT the "edaymovie.com" store. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to TibetanWhiteCrane for asking the question.
YAY!!!

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WuxiaFan

08-21-2009, 08:28 PM

Help me friends of Alexander Fu Sheng!
Anybody knows if Celestial Pictures released movies with spanish subtitles?

:ooh: Looked around a little, but nothing. That's going to be hard to find.

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Edaymovie sells a lot of boots. Didn't know they actually had legit DVDs like the ones above.

Alexandra -- I'm planning on watching HEROES TWO and BRAVE ARCHER this weekend! Just watched 5 Venoms last night!:smile:

Alexandra

08-22-2009, 05:17 PM

:ooh: Looked around a little, but nothing. That's going to be hard to find.
Alexandra -- I'm planning on watching HEROES TWO and BRAVE ARCHER this weekend! Just watched 5 Venoms last night!:smile:

Hello my dear friend!
Seems to me or the entertainment enterprises discriminate spanish language? They don't understand that 500 million people around the world speak this language? Awwiiiiiiii... :tinysmile_angry2_t:
You have not idea how difficult is to find movies with spanish subtitles... I have in South America (and in Mexico) some friends, they are very sad, without any access to this wonderful world, because they can't read english or other languages-. Imagine the same situation but changing the statements: companies, enterprises, holdings, all of them, releasing around the world movies and soap operas only with spanish subtitles. Hahahaaaaaaa! :tongue:

I know you will enjoy Heroes Two, is absolutely fantastic. And Brave Archer... well, tell me after see it (which one of the saga you will watch?)

Alexandra

WuxiaFan

08-24-2009, 04:03 AM

Hello my dear friend!
Seems to me or the entertainment enterprises discriminate spanish language? They don't understand that 500 million people around the world speak this language? Awwiiiiiiii... :tinysmile_angry2_t:
You have not idea how difficult is to find movies with spanish subtitles... I have in South America (and in Mexico) some friends, they are very sad, without any access to this wonderful world, because they can't read english or other languages-. Imagine the same situation but changing the statements: companies, enterprises, holdings, all of them, releasing around the world movies and soap operas only with spanish subtitles. Hahahaaaaaaa! :tongue:

I know you will enjoy Heroes Two, is absolutely fantastic. And Brave Archer... well, tell me after see it (which one of the saga you will watch?)

Alexandra

:smile: You won't believe this, but I picked up 3 Dragon Dynasty SB DVDs today and all of them have Spanish subs! I checked my other DD releases and, yes, all of them have Spanish subs! The online retailers like Amazon.com won't list each language, but I promise you they are there. Also, I looked at other US releasd DVDs and Warner Brothers, Columbia Tri-Star, and 20th Century Fox all have Spanish subs. Some Sony Pictures Classics DVDs also have Spanish subs, such as Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I thought I had seen Spanish subs before, but they were just not listed online. But all of my Dragon Dynasty releases have Spanish subs:
-One Armed Swordsman
-King Boxer
-My Young Auntie
-The Rebel
-Righting Wrongs (Above the Law)
-Fist of Legend
-Flash Point
-Come Drink With Me
So it looks like most R1 USA releases will have Spanish subs. You may just have to email the retailer to ask them to confirm it before you buy it. Hope that helps! :kiss:

Alexandra

08-24-2009, 04:56 PM

:I looked at other US releasd DVDs and Warner Brothers, Columbia Tri-Star, and 20th Century Fox all have Spanish subs. Some Sony Pictures Classics DVDs also have Spanish subs, such as Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I thought I had seen Spanish subs before, but they were just not listed online.

Hey
We (speaking about Argentina only) have a problem. not all the people have DVD Player code free, or can read Region 1 (USA and Canada) Of course the movies released in USA stores, have spanish subtitles, but is a risk (besides the high costs) to buy titles in USA or Europe and when they arrives, your DVD player is not code free or not have spanish subtitles... Your list about movies with spanish subtitles is nice but those titles are not in my interest... that is another problem. Here, the only movies that you can find in stores are the famous international awarded movies or Jackie Chan and Jet Li. Nothing about SB or the new chinese cinema (unless little exceptions). I am looking for a request list of five movies of Alexander, and I guess all of them Code 1 and without spanish subtitles. Another problem is our Customhouse. They can stop the merchandising and put high taxes and fees over the imported product. :cry:
I adore my country, my culture, my roots... but is hard to live at the end of the world! :cry:

Alexandra

WuxiaFan

08-24-2009, 07:49 PM

Help me friends of Alexander Fu Sheng!
Anybody knows if Celestial Pictures released movies with spanish subtitles?

I picked up 3 Dragon Dynasty SB DVDs today and all of them have Spanish subs! I checked my other DD releases and, yes, all of them have Spanish subs! All of my Dragon Dynasty releases have Spanish subs:
-One Armed Swordsman
-King Boxer
-My Young Auntie
-Come Drink With Me
So it looks like most R1 USA releases will have Spanish subs.

Hey
We (speaking about Argentina only) have a problem. not all the people have DVD Player code free, or can read Region 1 (USA and Canada) Of course the movies released in USA stores, have spanish subtitles, but is a risk (besides the high costs) to buy titles in USA or Europe and when they arrives, your DVD player is not code free or not have spanish subtitles... Your list about movies with spanish subtitles is nice but those titles are not in my interest...

:neutral: The SB films from Celestial released through Dragon Dynasty (USA) have Spanish subs. If you knew that, what are you asking then? I listed Celestial SB releases from DD that have Spanish subs, and other DD releases that also have Spanish subs. I also listed other USA distribs that have Spanish subs just so you'll know that they're are martial art movies that have Spanish subs.

kungfusamurai

08-25-2009, 03:51 AM

:neutral: The SB films from Celestial released through Dragon Dynasty (USA) have Spanish subs. If you knew that, what are you asking then? I listed Celestial SB releases from DD that have Spanish subs, and other DD releases that also have Spanish subs. I also listed other USA distribs that have Spanish subs just so you'll know that they're are martial art movies that have Spanish subs.

I think they were hoping there would be other sources of Shaw Brothers with spanish subs that feature Fu Sheng. And the region coding is a problem too.

Unfortunately, not too many people here are familiar with the DVD market of South America. I'd hate to say it, but if you can't get a region free DVD player to play DVDs from the USA, you should find out from your local markets if there are bootlegs with specially made spanish subs, until the legit ones come out. Unless you can find out if there is a company in Spain that put out Shaw Brothers.

KFS

kungfusamurai

08-25-2009, 04:00 AM

Hey
We (speaking about Argentina only) have a problem. not all the people have DVD Player code free, or can read Region 1 (USA and Canada) Of course the movies released in USA stores, have spanish subtitles, but is a risk (besides the high costs) to buy titles in USA or Europe and when they arrives, your DVD player is not code free or not have spanish subtitles... Your list about movies with spanish subtitles is nice but those titles are not in my interest... that is another problem. Here, the only movies that you can find in stores are the famous international awarded movies or Jackie Chan and Jet Li. Nothing about SB or the new chinese cinema (unless little exceptions). I am looking for a request list of five movies of Alexander, and I guess all of them Code 1 and without spanish subtitles. Another problem is our Customhouse. They can stop the merchandising and put high taxes and fees over the imported product. :cry:
I adore my country, my culture, my roots... but is hard to live at the end of the world! :cry:

Alexandra

Sorry, we can't help you with the customs issues. And I don't think any one else here is based in South America. Spanish subtitles seem to be standard on most USA DVD releases, so it's strange the ones you are looking for don't have them.

For region free DVD players, do you have stores that sell cheap quality DVD players? Here, we have Wal Mart. Years ago, they used to sell a brand of DVD player called Cyberhome, which could be turned into a region free player by typing the code in the remote control. There are a lot of websites that describe how to hack into the DVD players to change the region for the player. They tend to be low quality, cheaply priced DVD players, not the expensive ones like Panasonic, Toshiba, etc...

I try finding DVDs from all over the world, not just from the USA. I even bought Shaw Brothers DVDs from France, even though they don't have english subtitles. Maybe the next best thing you can do, if it's possible, is to buy the DVDs with english subtitles, and then pull them apart and run the subtitles through a translator, and then re-burn the disc as a DVDR. It won't be perfect spanish, but it'll be enough to get you watching your favourite films. Sorry, you'll need to look around for what programs can convert DVDs into their image and subtitle files. Also, translating will probably take you a long time. But you'll be the coolest person in your area if you can figure all that yourself and watch your Alexander Fu Sheng Shaw Brothers with spanish subs! :)

KFS

Alexandra

08-26-2009, 01:14 AM

There are a lot of websites that describe how to hack into the DVD players to change the region for the player. They tend to be low quality, cheaply priced DVD players, not the expensive ones like Panasonic, Toshiba, etc...

Maybe the next best thing you can do, if it's possible, is to buy the DVDs with english subtitles, and then pull them apart and run the subtitles through a translator, and then re-burn the disc as a DVDR. It won't be perfect spanish, but it'll be enough to get you watching your favourite films. Sorry, you'll need to look around for what programs can convert DVDs into their image and subtitle files. Also, translating will probably take you a long time. But you'll be the coolest person in your area if you can figure all that yourself and watch your Alexander Fu Sheng Shaw Brothers with spanish subs! :)KFS

Hello friend
I can read in four languages, so, for my personal use is not problem to buy a dvd with options in english, french, german, and even italian. The dvd's I bought are from our stores, but they are limited, so is necessary to ask them in USA or Europe.
Another risky thing is our customhouse, they are terrible with the taxes of importation. :squigglemouth:
We have lots of super malls like Wal Mart and other ones (giants electronic stores) with lots of dvd player brands, from the most simple to the most sophisticate and expensive. But I made a research and those dvd players read only region 4 (South America) and few of them Region 1 (USA and Canada). It is true that you can hack into the dvd player a code and turn it into a dvd code free but... I will try to do it... I am not an expert. I don't know exactly how is the situation in all South America, but one thing is sure: the SB released movies as a whole are unknown in my country. That was the reason for my impulse to create a project (as seminar in my university) under the label of "semiotic, aesthetics and language in wuxia chinese cinema" (the title is not definitive yet) and I need of course movies with spanish subtitles because not all the audience is able to read in other languages. Anyway your idea about to change the subtitles could be the solution. I have the application in my computer for changing subtitles, but it takes hours at day... And is funny when anyone uses the translator (i.e. from english to spanish) because not only is a bad spanish, but exist a feeling of weird mood of expression because here we speak castillian and is a little different ahhhahahahhah! There are four or five movies of Alexander waiting in my wish list. I will find the way, with turkish, swedish or skimo subtitles! hahahahah!
Alexandra

Alexandra

08-26-2009, 01:25 AM

http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1055

I loooove to hear comments about this picture (hehhheheee)
MarsHarmony, you are the best. Women in the forum, stand up!:tongue:
Alexandra (fainted)

MarsHarmony

08-26-2009, 10:05 PM

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I am hoping I got the pic up. It shows sheer raw rage, and it is beautiful. 20 year old Fu Sheng is growing and learning but already coming with a bounty of talent and boundless energy. Mon Dieu, il est marveillues!
The pic is a little small here, but bigger if you click on it, and of course, larger in the album. The company that remastered the dvd, put it in the strangest aspect ratio!

MarsHarmony

08-26-2009, 10:10 PM

And if you click the link in Alexandra's post, it comes up bigger as well.
:khi8g:

MarsHarmony

08-26-2009, 10:23 PM

http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=36&pictureid=964

God finally! Now I can put the full image in.
Here is Fu Sheng in "Four Riders", being too cool for school! He seemed to having a great time in this scene.

jrcma

08-26-2009, 10:38 PM

Here's a bit of Fu Sheng i uploaded last month ASN9lyiMbWM

MarsHarmony

08-27-2009, 12:36 AM

Thanks for posting the wonderful Na Cha video!
but why the Jakcie Chan??????

jrcma

08-27-2009, 01:00 AM

Thanks for posting the wonderful Na Cha video!
but why the Jakcie Chan??????

thats my "Signature"

The Dragon

08-27-2009, 03:59 AM

thats my "Signature"

... :neutral:.

MarsHarmony

08-27-2009, 10:15 AM

Now, I get it! cool.
http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=39&pictureid=1140

jrcma

08-28-2009, 12:11 AM

... :neutral:.

sorry i don't understand what you mean Dragon?

Alexandra

08-30-2009, 01:21 AM

Now, I get it! cool.
http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=39&pictureid=1140

OH HOLY GOD AND ALL THE SAINTS IN HEAVEN! Don't do it such a thing again! I fainted!
Aweeeeeeeeeeeeee! I love that man, love from here to another Universe, and beyond. Beauty without equal.
Alexandra

MarsHarmony

09-03-2009, 05:42 AM

:khi7g:I am posting this list of Fu Sheng's films in the order of their RELEASE dates.
HKMD.com and HKCINEMAGIC.com leave one or two of the earliest titles out.

Young People (July 7, 1972) Wow, how mystifying is that? July 7 ?! Eleven years to the day.
The Fourteen Amazons (July 27, 1972)
Man of Iron (October 12, 1972)
Four Riders (December 22, 1972)
Thunderbolt Fist (December 30, 1972)
The Generation Gap (April 20, 1973)
Police Force (June 16, 1973)
Heroes Two (January 19, 1974)
Three Styles of Hung Fist Documentary 1974
Men from the Monastery (April 3, 1974)
Friends (June 29, 1974)
Shaolin Martial Arts (August 3, 1974)
Na Cha the Great (September 27, 1974)
Five Shaolin Masters (December 25, 1974)
Disciples of Shaolin (June 28, 1975)
Marco Polo (December 25, 1975)
Boxer Rebellion (January 29, 1976)
Seven Man Army (April 16, 1976)
The Shaolin Avengers (June 18, 1976)
New Shaolin Boxers (September 3, 1976)
Shaolin Temple (December 22, 1976)
The Naval Commandos (April 7, 1977)
Magnificent Wanderers (May 27, 1977)
The Brave Archer (July 30, 1977)
Chinatown Kid (December 2, 1977)
The Brave Archer Part 2 (May 13, 1978)
The Avenging Eagle (September 13, 1978)
Life Gamble (February 22, 1979)
The Deadly Breaking Sword (April 12, 1979)
The Proud Twins (July 19, 1979)
Ten Tigers of Kwantung (December 20, 1979)
Heaven and Hell (January 19, 1980)
Heroes Shed No Tears (July 24, 1980)
Return of the Sentimental Swordsman (January 31, 1981)
Treasure Hunters (July 9, 1981)
The Brave Archer Part 3 (November 12, 1981)
Legendary Weapons of China (January 21, 1982)
The Brave Archer and His Mate (February 25, 1982)
The Fake Ghost Catchers (July 30, 1982)
Cat vs. Rat (September 30, 1982)
My Rebellious Son (November 26, 1982)
Hong Kong Playboys (June 18, 1983)
The Eight Diagram Pole Fighter (February 17, 1984)
Wits of the Brats (May 24, 1984)

That's 43 films, not counting the documentary, in eleven years! Thanks for every one of them! Well done, well done indeed.
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The 14 Amazons , Wits of the Brats :khi9l:Yes, I have all of them, in case you were wondering.

gravedigger666

09-05-2009, 06:53 AM

I re-(re-re)watched bunch of those again mainly inspired by this topic And now paid more attention than before to his moves.He is secondary at most particularly in earlier CC shaolin movies.He makes up that by good acting though...it`s by good choreographer not good to make somewhat lacklustre martial artists to look good on screen with emptyhanded and use short cuts in action scenes. and we do not see fu sheng use weapons often:tongue:
and learning hung gat and choy lee fut form is easy,understanding applications is another thing.

BlackLamaFaction

09-05-2009, 09:59 AM

Avenging Eagle was first rate.Fu Sheng had a presence on screen that could be compared with any of the great actors(Hong Kong,U.S or otherwise)

MarsHarmony

09-08-2009, 12:27 PM

Hey, I wanted to add, repost this rather, to the real AFS thread, because it was a rare moment of semi coherent thought to written word moments, and it brings up some nice points that have been made by forum members.
"Shaolin Martial Arts" is spot on. Badass from start to finish [quote by Kungfusamurai in the Fu Sheng poll thread], it and "Five Shaolin Masters" are as exciting today as they were when I first saw them, back around when they came out. I think "FSM" does a good job of showcasing five characters in a fairly balanced way that shows the growth of each character in at least their quest to master their style. I would have loved maybe one scene, as they go through their training, to just gather for their simple meal at evening, wouldn't even have to say anything, they would just share a quiet moment. By the way it's Bruce Tong Yim Chan's birthday September 26, he will be 62. He is always great to watch.
I agree with the comment [posted by Kungfusamurai in the Fu Sheng poll thread] about "Heroes Two" placing Hung Hsi Kuan "in harm's way", it was extra tension, but did provide some good dramatic scenes for character development. ... Chang Cheh seemed to want to tell many tales of Fong Shi Yu and Hung Hsi Kuan, so it spills onto, and from "Men From the Monastery", as I believe I read here in the forum that "Monastery" was started first. Both classic examples of the theme of the needs of the many, the Han people, outweighing the needs of the few, the heroes. They makes a good double feature, as many Shaw classics do.
"Na Cha the Great" gets picked on a lot. If you can forget about CGI for an hour and a half, this is a fun and surprisingly deep layered film. An example of CC's and Fu Sheng's "what choice do you make when confronted with injustice or evil" theme that is played out through many of their films, and perhaps best realized in the later "New Shaolin Boxers" and to a lesser degree in "Disciples of Shaolin". Three years ahead of "Star Wars", "Na Cha" also asks "what do you choose to do when evil turns out to be your father?" Okay, giggle at the dragon puppets, but really they are kind of cool, and I give you the worst effect is the thankfully brief scene's in front of the fish tank, but apart from that it is packed with great action, plenty of fights with various weaponry, and the Battle in the Heavens is a non stop gauntlet of Na Cha vs an army that is beautifully filmed and choreographed.
I am sorry so few people have seen "Friends". It is a rare upbeat good natured, only slightly melodramatic, look at how a group of friends came to be. David Chiang, like him or don't, I do, gets to be cool and have fun, and it is special to see the scenes with him and Fu Sheng, they are nicely done. This is a little pastiche I did from "Friends" with Fu Sheng working out as his teacher looks on, played by Tung Choi Bo, and then Fu Sheng drops in to check out where David Chiang hangs out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKWxkR4jzY

Karlos

09-08-2009, 02:07 PM

MarsHarmony, I think it's to be commended the way you've shown your obvious love for the late, great Fu Sheng on this forum.

He really was a unique star and will always be much missed.

MarsHarmony

09-08-2009, 08:37 PM

Here are Kungfusamurai's interesting comment's originally posted in the poll-
"I'm a Shaolin Martial Arts person. I've seen all the films, except Friends.
I didn't like the main bad guy in Heroes Two. I can't remember his name, but every time I watch him fighting Fu Sheng, it feels like Fu Sheng's Fong Sai Yuk is holding back, to compensate for the slowness or lack of skills of the bad guy lead. I do snicker, though, whenever I see that final ending when the bad guy gets beat and he's dying, but he swinging his arms like he's getting ready to due a Looney Tunes dash. I also didn't like the misunderstanding plot line that put Chen Kwan Tai's character Hung Sze Kwan(?) into harms way. It didn't feel believable, since there was so many ways he could have proved himself.
5 Shaolin Masters is alright, but I think the part that bothers me is the ending. Each person has trained in a skill that counters a specific skill of one of the enemy fighters, and for whatever reason, they all peel away to fight the corresponding guy! I know that's a weak reason, but it's only one. Plus the focus of the movie is Ti Lung and David Chiang. Fu Sheng is 1/5th of the Masters, but the other two guys presence in the film just overshadows Fu Sheng
Na Cha is just a nice little fantasy. Nothing earth shattering about it.
Men From The Monastery also is interesting, like three or four separate films edited into one, if I'm not mistaken. But again, it doesn't really hold me for some reason.
Shaolin Martial Arts is just badass from beginning to end. Fu Sheng is in his peak form there. And you have guys like Chi Kuan Chun, Leung Kar Yan, Wang Lung Wei, Bruce Tong, all fresh new faces, fighting it out. And there's a bit more depth in the acting, with the men having female relationships that influence their decisions, as opposed to a full out sausage-fest like so many other Chang Cheh films. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it just makes SMA stand out above the rest."
Thank you very much Karlos, Rogue Warrior what a great photo and special thanks again to Alexandra for starting this thread.:yociexp32: