Actors You Love To Hate:

[klepto]

1.) Siu Tien Yuen - Ok the man is a legend and his family is legendary. Dance of the drunken mantis was great but how many times were they going to cut away to the double to do the cool moves? Are those special effects or does he normally look like a lush in ever movie I've seen him in.

2.) Shun-Yee Yuen - The movie Buddhist Fist could be a classic but once I see his pudgy face and attempts at looking clever I have to turn off my DVD Player

3.) David Chiang - The only movie I ever liked him in was 'All men are brothers' because he was too cool in it with that sound effect playing every time he was in the scene.

4.) Sammo Hung - DON'T LIGHT ME ON FIRE, sorry. I loved him in Iron Fisted Monk and Warriors Two but I don't like kung fu movies that have too much humor. I like the films that are about business like King Boxer, Killer Constable and Rebellious Reign.

5.) Carter Wong - What is there to say? Carter should have never spoke a word and just looked tough.

Does anyone have any movies from these actors that would change my mind?

[KUNG FU BOB]

Siu Tien Yuen seemed to mostly play bit roles before SNAKE IN THE EAGLE'S SHADOW. Minor parts in HEROES OF THE EAST, 36TH CHAMBER OF SHAOLIN, and tons of others. I can't recall him in a good starring role before SITES though. But he was definitely made up to look like a drunk, and was a regular looking guy in real life.

David Chiang must sees are:

THE DUEL
VENGEANCE
NEW ONE-ARMED SWORDSMAN
SHAOLIN MANTIS

A Sammo film that's more serious with incredible action is PEDICAB DRIVER.

[KUNG FU BOB]

I can't beleive you even like kung fu movies in general.

LOL I was shocked by klepto's choices too. But having different opinions makes things more interesting, doesn't it?

My good buddy shares the same taste in almost everything Asian film related, except one big difference... he can't stand Donnie Yen. Can't stand him one bit! I don't get it. I mean, some of his stuff sure. But how can you not like himin IRON MONKEY, LEGEND OF THE WOLF, ONCE UPON A TIME IN CHINA 2, IP MAN? Still... we do manage to remain friends. :xd:

As for me... big thumb's down for 90% of Dean Shek's stuff. I'm definitely not a fan.

[gorhama]

Wow!! I agree everyone can have their own opinion...but man sometimes it's hard to think that someone doesn't like Sammo Hung!!! :squigglemouth:


klepto.............I hope you will give some more Sammo movies a chance, you don't have to like him per say....but I'm sure some of his more serious movies you'll dig!!! EASTERN CONDORS is a great movie and Sammo is pure bad ass in it!!

[lillippa328]

i hate when people say they dont like kung fu comedys, or jackie chan, or sammo, but then will love to watch other stuff by Gordon Liu or Jet Li that have a heck of a lot of a comedy in them themselves....

[MarsHarmony]

:yociexp54:

Hi, good topic.
There is a fun game you can play whenever watching a Shaw classic from 1968-1980, or so, it's see if you can spot Yuen Shun Yi in the group of people about to get into trouble. I adore him in "Buddhist Fist", a favorite, with all the Yuen clan having a great time. Have you seen "Papa" Simon Yuen in "Shaolin Martial Arts"? as Fu Sheng's second master? That's a good one.

Though it is a comedy, Sammo Hung in "Enter the Fat Dragon" is very very funny and does the best Bruce Lee imitation ever ever ever.

Kung Fu Bob is right on with his choices of David Chiang films - he is the epitome of ultra cool in "The Duel", (though I have never understood why in the movie they... oh, well). And "The New One Armed Swordsman" is a great, great, great Shaw classic, a favorite. And may I add, the not very well known "Friends" to that list. His scenes with Fu Sheng show some different sides to his character.

Carter Wong has my deepest respect and I do not hate him at all, but I will give you that one. heheheeeeee

[klepto]

Everyone has their preferences,

I know it is always going to be a touchy subject when someone criticizes
a lot of people's favorite actors. I've seen Eastern Condors and loved it. I have it on a very
dusty VHS tape.

I don't mind a little bit of comedy in kung fu movies but I prefer action to that any day of the week. I have a lot of respect for Sammo as I loved him in SPL and recent movies with Donnie Yen where he played a gangster but his older movies were mostly comedies.

[gravedigger666]

Wow!! I agree everyone can have their own opinion...but man sometimes it's hard to think that someone doesn't like Sammo Hung!!! :squigglemouth:



I do not like him.

[bolofan]

Sammo Hung is the man, but thats just my opinion. As for actors I love to hate - Dragon Sek, hate the films of his I have seen.

[Markgway]

I can't stand Dean Shek. He ruins almost every scene he's in. He's like the abyss of HK cinema draining away every moment of goodness. I've knocked stars off my movie ratings for featuring gratuitous Shekage. For all I know he might be a top bloke in reality - but on-screen he's wretched.

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

I can't stand Dean Shek. He ruins almost every scene he's in. He's like the abyss of HK cinema draining away every moment of goodness. I've knocked stars off my movie ratings for featuring gratuitous Shekage. For all I know he might be a top bloke in reality - but on-screen he's wretched.


I'll second that!

"gratuitous Shekage":bigsmile:

[Tosh]

Sammo, a true legend.

I use not to like the comedy in these movies, but over the years, and dwelving deeper into Asian culture itself, I've grown fonder of the humor, there's definitely a cultural bridge to cross being from the west.

I get annoyed more by characters than actors for the most part, Dean Shek doesn't bother me, some of his parts like in Mad Monkey Kung Fu I actually like:xd:

[KUNG FU BOB]

Sammo, a true legend.

I use not to like the comedy in these movies, but over the years, and dwelving deeper into Asian culture itself, I've grown fonder of the humor, there's definitely a cultural bridge to cross being from the west.

I get annoyed more by characters than actors for the most part, Dean Shek doesn't bother me, some of his parts like in Mad Monkey Kung Fu I actually like:xd:

Tosh, there's only one reason that Dean Shek didn't ruin MAD MONKEY KUNG FU... he's not in it. Lam Fai Wong actually plays that Dean Shekish role. He does look a lot like him in this movie, except he's not quite as grating and stupid. :wink: Normally I think Skekky devalues films he's in, just like my fellow forum brothers have stated above, but once in a while he's... let's see, how nice can I be... doesn't make me want to go find him and slap him with a wet fish? :xd: He was okay in DRUNKEN MASTER.

[Mark Pollard]

Know who is worse than Dean Shek? Hon Kwok-choi. That knucklehead plays the same pathetic, wormy dope in every movie he's in, usually as the hero's sidekick. His best roles are some of his early ones where his character gets killed off.

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(Hon is the skinny bald dude playing Bruce Leung's buddy.)

[charlie parker]

watching alan tam is like watching wood varnish dry

[TibetanWhiteCrane]

watching alan tam is like watching wood varnish dry

True... Although I like him in Armour Of God, Dragon Family and Last Blood!

[Markgway]

Agree on Hon Kwok-Choi. About as funny as diarrhea.

[KUNG FU BOB]

Know who is worse than Dean Shek? Hon Kwok-choi. That knucklehead plays the same pathetic, wormy dope in every movie he's in, usually as the hero's sidekick. His best roles are some of his early ones where his character gets killed off.

Good call Mark. This guy's fingernails across a chalkboard for me. I remember wishing that Bruce Liang would have taken him out with some of his thunderous kicks in that movie! :xd:

[Fightingfist]

Donnie yen :)

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Hon Kwok Choi is not nearly as bad as Dean Shek IMO. But then again I like Dean Shek sometimes. Loved him in Dirty Tiger Crazy Frog. Hon Kwok Choi was really good alongside Meng Hoi in Call Me Dragon. He seemed to mainly be in dirt cheap movies, but when he got a good role, like in We’re Going to Eat You, I thought he did a good job. He's not one of my favorite actors, not even close, but there's a lot of movies I like him in.

One guy I don't like is the fat Japanese guy in Fist of Fury. Every time he shows up in a movie I know he's gonna suck. He should have only been given very minor roles, like in Wang Yu's The Sword.

[Markgway]

One guy I don't like is the fat Japanese guy in Fist of Fury. Every time he shows up in a movie I know he's gonna suck. He should have only been given very minor roles, like in Wang Yu's The Sword.

Feng I doesn't bother me at all.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

He didn't bother Bruce Lee I'm guessing either. Easy opponent. :tongue:

[Drunken Monk]

Who is the fat guy that plays Sammo's brother in "The Magnificent Butcher?" I can't stand him at all. He's always dubbed in that dumb-as-an-ox voice and, sadly, it goes right with his mannerisms. I really dislike him.

[Markgway]

Who is the fat guy that plays Sammo's brother in "The Magnificent Butcher?" I can't stand him at all. He's always dubbed in that dumb-as-an-ox voice and, sadly, it goes right with his mannerisms. I really dislike him.

Cheung Kam.

[Killer Meteor]

I like Dean Shek sometimes - his early creep roles in films like The Delinquent annoy me more then his turns in Drunken Master

Actors who annoy me...

Wei Pei
Fu Sheng (latter day performances)
That bald guy who was San Te in Two Champions of Shaolin
Eric Tsang
John Shum

[charlie parker]

eric tsang can be annoying, scared stiff's robot scene is truly dire

[klepto]

I saw some pretty good David Chiang movies recently but he doesn't have much
charisma and when he is fighting he isn't all that exciting. Comparing him and Wang Yu, Wang Yu is far more entertaining and shows more raw emotion.

[Cesare]

I saw some pretty good David Chiang movies recently but he doesn't have much
charisma and when he is fighting he isn't all that exciting. Comparing him and Wang Yu, Wang Yu is far more entertaining and shows more raw emotion.

To me it has always been pretty much the other way round. Wang Yu doesn't get anywhere near Chiang (or Ti Lung). Sure he was more athletic and definitely presented a more realistic image of a fighter - but I've yet to see something as memorable from him as were Chiang's knife fights in Vengeance for example.
I love some of the Wang Yu classics - but it's rather despite him than because of him, to be honest. Take Magnificent Trio - Lo Lieh and Cheng Lei outshined him (the daxia in white) just like -- that... :xd:
Chiang on the other hand had (and still has) a spark (and sophistication) I've never seen Wang Yu display.
Just an opinion of course... We all have them...;-)

More on topic...
I gave it some thought but realized there actually isn't an actor I'd downright hate (let alone love to hate). There are a few guys whose popularity I'll never quite understand and some others who occasionally get on my nerves - but that's about it...

[Markgway]

Chiang is a better actor than Wang.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Cheung Kam's ok sometimes, but most of the time he is horrible. I almost had to turn off Young Hero because of him. And it doesn't help that the character he plays is just a huge pile of shit.

[klepto]

Dean Shek is horrible but someone has to play that role.
The role of a wimpering sycophant that is right next to the important person.
How I wished that he was killed off in many movies only to see him beat up
and then to come back! :khi8a::7:

[kungfusamurai]

This thread sounds like it should be in the old school forum.

I guess the general consensus is that people don't like the funny guys of kung fu. :)

One un-funny guy I dislike, and I don't think he's ever done anything remotely humorous, is Jimmy Wang Yu. I've said it many times, I don't care for his on screen fighting or his charisma or lack of. Carter Wong is another serious guy I dislike. I liked him in those early Golden Harvest flicks, but after that, he just is uninteresting to watch. Another guy who's never done anything humorous on screen. :)

Dean Shek is the one funny man everyone loves to hate, and I agree. I also hate characters with stupid physical afflictions done for laughs, like the buck teeth, or the big ugly moles. Not funny. I also find those millions of AIDS jokes they keep doing in those 80s action flicks unfunny. But I laugh anyway because saying 'AIDS' for a dumb joke is funny, I suppose. And I'm not saying having AIDS is funny, but I digress.

I strongly disagree about Sammo being bad. He was the one guy outside of Lau Kar Leung who's put out consistently great choreography from the early 70s. I find his humor, along with Jackie's, is the most accessible to western audiences. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's the visual aspect, rather than constantly saying silly things that are supposed to be funny.

KFS

[Iron Boat]

David Chiang is great in many films, some of my favorites are Have Sword Will Travel, New One Armed Sworsman, Vengeance, 5 Shaolin Masters, Blood Brothers, and how's bout The Loot!!!

[I Like Elaine]

Thinking about it... no one really. I'm sure there's an actor or two I've been annoyed with, but no one I really hate (at least that I can think of at this moment). I guess I have a high tolerance level :bigsmile:.

[klepto]

I watched The Victim last night and that was a great film.
Comedy in Kung-Fu movies has never be my forte but Sammo is a great talent.
I'll have to check out Pedicab Driver to see him in a more serious role.

Also with David Chiang I saw Duel of the Iron Fist, my god that was more of a Scorsese
type film than an Eastern film. I've added to my DVD collection many times in the recent weeks due to this forum. My poor empty wallet :ooh:

[kungfusamurai]

Chang Cheh ended up remaking Duel Of The Iron Fist (known as The Duel in Hong Kong) later in 1980 or so with The Venoms, called Flag Of Iron. It wasn't as good, but they did have longer weapons. I wonder what Freud would have said about that! :)

KFS

[Markgway]

It wasn't as good, but they did have longer weapons. I wonder what Freud would have said about that! :)

Something to do with Chang's mother fixation I suspect.....

[Chinatown Kid]

Chiang Tao, he really makes a good villian because he looks like such an asshole, ditto for Wang Lung Wei. Also the dude that had the hidden blade in his belt that stabbed Ti Lung in Savage Five, he's got that huge mouth with gaped teeth that reminds me of a hyena lol, he was born to play the fiend.