Shaolin Invincible Sticks - borderline classic?

[falkor]

I want to try and establish whether people generally consider this a 5 star classic or just a good watch. However, some people will criticise any Kung Fu film that most die hard fans consider classics/cult favourites, so I need you all to please answer 3 questions:
1) Do you rate Shaolin Invincible Sticks 5/5, 4/5 or less?
2) Would you consider Shaolin Invincible Sticks, even though it's mainly weapons-based, to be roughly on the same level as Traitorous, Secret Rivals, and Mystery Of Chess Boxing?
3) Are each of the following films better or worse than Shaolin Invincible Sticks:
Death Duel Of Kung Fu
Hot, The Cool & The Vicious
Along Come The Tiger
Killer From Above
Blazing Temple
Raiders Of The Shaolin Temple
Ninja In The Dragon's Den
Shaolin Master & The Kid
Prodigal Son
Daggers 8
Thundering Mantis
Odd Couple
Incredible Kung Fu Mission
Fists, The Kicks & The Evils
Woman Avenger
Cantonen Iron Kung Fu
Shaolin Iron Eagle
Shaolin Red Master
Shaolin Ex-Monk
Killer From Above
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[Markgway]

1) Do you rate Shaolin Invincible Sticks 5/5, 4/5 or less?

Less. 1.5/4. Sorry... I rate out of ****. But you get the idea. As usual good enough fights... nothing else.

2) Would you consider Shaolin Invincible Sticks, even though it's mainly weapons-based, to be roughly on the same level as Traitorous, Secret Rivals, and Mystery Of Chess Boxing?

Not as good as The Traitorous, evens with the other two.

3) Are each of the following films better or worse than Shaolin Invincible Sticks:

Death Duel Of Kung Fu - Draw
Hot, The Cool & The Vicious - Better
Along Come The Tiger - Better (I think)
Killer From Above - Better
Blazing Temple - Better
Raiders Of The Shaolin Temple - Haven't Seen
Ninja In The Dragon's Den - Better
Shaolin Master & The Kid - Better (I think)
Prodigal Son - Better
Daggers 8 - Better
Thundering Mantis - Worse
Odd Couple - Better
Incredible Kung Fu Mission Draw (I think)
Fists, The Kicks & The Evils - Haven't seen
Woman Avenger - Better
Cantonen Iron Kung Fu - Better (I thinK)
Shaolin Iron Eagle - Worse
Shaolin Red Master - Draw (I think)
Shaolin Ex-Monk - Better (I think)
Killer From Above - Better

[Monk Sante]

I personally like this film but felt the ending could have been better. Good film though.

[Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee]

Borderline? No, stone-cold classic. Thanks for the pictures! :smile:

1) 5/5
2) Above Traitorous, on the same level as Secret Rivals, and Mystery Of Chess Boxing
3) Are each of the following films better or worse than Shaolin Invincible Sticks:
Death Duel Of Kung Fu - Evens
Hot, The Cool & The Vicious - Evens
Along Come The Tiger - ?
Killer From Above - ?
Blazing Temple - Evens
Raiders Of The Shaolin Temple - Worse
Ninja In The Dragon's Den - Worse
Shaolin Master & The Kid - Worse
Prodigal Son - ?
Daggers 8 - Worse
Thundering Mantis - Worse
Odd Couple - Worse
Incredible Kung Fu Mission - Worse
Fists, The Kicks & The Evils - Worse
Woman Avenger - Worse
Cantonen Iron Kung Fu - Worse
Shaolin Iron Eagle - Evens
Shaolin Red Master - Worse
Shaolin Ex-Monk - Worse
Killer From Above - ?

- Does anyone happen to have an image of the original poster to this?

[Brigadier Chow]

I rate it 4/5 just for the interesting array of sticks and the style in which they were used. One of Wang Tao's best.

Above Traitorous, Above Secret Rivals, lower than Mystery of Chessboxing

I misunderstood the better / worse question first time so I have edited.

Death Duel Of Kung Fu - Even
Hot, The Cool & The Vicious -worse
Along Come The Tiger - Even
Killer From Above - Better
Blazing Temple - Way worse
Raiders Of The Shaolin Temple - Better, this is one of my faves
Ninja In The Dragon's Den - Better
Shaolin Master & The Kid - Worse
Prodigal Son - Better
Daggers 8 -Even
Thundering Mantis - Better
Odd Couple - Better
Incredible Kung Fu Mission - Better, another fave of mine
Fists, The Kicks & The Evils - Better, Bruce Liang, Philip Ko, Bolo not looking based
Woman Avenger - Better, Pang Kang priceless in this
Cantonen Iron Kung Fu - Better
Shaolin Iron Eagle - Worse
Shaolin Red Master - Worse
Shaolin Ex-Monk - Worse

[shapes]

Wong tao's stick work let this film down, also Chang Yi's Pool cue was a bad choice of weapon.
when you think of films like Odd cuople , Snake and Crane or any Venoms weapons film, this film is quite poor by comaprison
I rate it 3/5

[ironfistedmonk]

1) Do you rate Shaolin Invincible Sticks 5/5, 4/5 or less? - Less, I'd give it a 3 out of 5. I just don't feel this movie all that much. Maybe if I saw a good widescreen original language print I'd rate it higher, the dub is hard work and there are a few annoying characters that I remember really bugging me.

2) Would you consider Shaolin Invincible Sticks, even though it's mainly weapons-based, to be roughly on the same level as Traitorous, Secret Rivals, and Mystery Of Chess Boxing? - On a level with Traitorous, nowhere near Secret Rivals or Chess Boxing which actionwise are far superior IMO

3) Are each of the following films better or worse than Shaolin Invincible Sticks:
Death Duel Of Kung Fu - better
Hot, The Cool & The Vicious - better
Along Come The Tiger - better
Killer From Above - equal
Blazing Temple - worse
Raiders Of The Shaolin Temple - equal
Ninja In The Dragon's Den - better
Shaolin Master & The Kid - better
Prodigal Son - your kidding right? a hundred times better
Daggers 8 - too many better
Thundering Mantis - better
Odd Couple - better
Incredible Kung Fu Mission - better
Fists, The Kicks & The Evils - equal
Woman Avenger - miles better
Cantonen Iron Kung Fu - better
Shaolin Iron Eagle - slightly better
Shaolin Red Master - equal
Shaolin Ex-Monk - better

[Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee]

Does this film have the best intro sequence of all time or what? This was one of the very first films I saw as a youngster and it got me well and truly hooked from the get go.

[silver hermit]

1) Do you rate Shaolin Invincible Sticks 5/5, 4/5 or less? about 3.5 to 4/5 i would have to re watch it
2) Would you consider Shaolin Invincible Sticks, even though it's mainly weapons-based, to be roughly on the same level as Traitorous, Secret Rivals, and Mystery Of Chess Boxing? all these are better traitorus being the best for comparison

3) Are each of the following films better or worse than Shaolin Invincible Sticks:
good questions i hope i'm reading the question right in fear of making a mockery of classics
Death Duel Of Kung Fu better
Hot, The Cool & The Vicious better
Along Come The Tiger even leaning towards better
Killer From Above worse
Blazing Temple hmmm i'm a say better from memory might change the mind after another watch :xd:
Raiders Of The Shaolin Temple worse(ROTST finale is better though)
Ninja In The Dragon's Den better
Shaolin Master & The Kid even
Prodigal Son better
Daggers 8 even
Thundering Mantis better
Odd Couple better
Incredible Kung Fu Mission even
Fists, The Kicks & The Evils worse
Woman Avenger better
Cantonen Iron Kung Fu better
Shaolin Iron Eagle better
Shaolin Red Master better
Shaolin Ex-Monk even
Killer From Above worse on here twice lol

[falkor]

I tend to agree with most ratings in Essential Guide To Hong Kong Movies, which gives this 4/5. I thought it might be 5/5, but the choreography is lacking a bit, even if the story/comedy is great.

[northern b]

1) Do you rate Shaolin Invincible Sticks 5/5, 4/5 or less?

Less! it maybe a 3/5 at best too much frame clipping!

2) Would you consider Shaolin Invincible Sticks, even though it's mainly weapons-based, to be roughly on the same level as Traitorous, Secret Rivals, and Mystery Of Chess Boxing?

Secret Rivals is the best out of that bunch imo MOCB = over-rated too many bad edits, pity as the potentials is there..


3) Are each of the following films better or worse than Shaolin Invincible Sticks:

Only films I've seen are listed

Death Duel Of Kung Fu= hmm another I don't particularly rate but its better

Hot, The Cool & The Vicious- better

Ninja In The Dragon's Den- better

Prodigal Son- better

Daggers 8- better

Thundering Mantis - better

Odd Couple- better

Fists, The Kicks & The Evils- better

Woman Avenger- better

Cantonen Iron Kung Fu- better

Shaolin Red Master- better

Shaolin Ex-Monk- better

[butcher wing]

the problem that I have and why it is borderline classic is I find there was way too much cut and paste in the fight sequences. Tung Wei is a good player and I was kind of disappointing to see this much editing either than that it is a very good flick. I enjoy watching it.

[Yang Wu Liang]

1. I love the idea that Chang Yi wants to destroy any one else who uses a stick, just for the evil pleasure of it. I'd give it a 4/5 - it loses a mark for that whiny idiotic son (played by Li Teng Tsai) but gains a mark for the awesome stick intro at the start.

2. It's very slightly inferior to SR, MOCB and Traitorous.

3. I'd say all those films (I've seen) on the list are better than Invincible Sticks with the exception of Death Duel Of Kung Fu and Cantonen Iron Kung Fu which are worse.

[Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee]

3. I'd say all those films (I've seen) on the list are better than Invincible Sticks with the exception of Death Duel Of Kung Fu and Cantonen Iron Kung Fu which are worse.

You're implicitly saying Shaolin Ex Monk is better than Death Duel Of Kung Fu?

[Yang Wu Liang]

LOL no I'm not mate, I didn't word it very well. I should of said - of all the films that I've seen on the list only Death Duel of KF and Cantonen Iron KF are inferior to Invincible Sticks.

I haven't seen Shaolin Ex Monk or Fists, Kicks & Evils.

[Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee]

LOL no I'm not mate, I didn't word it very well. I should of said - of all the films that I've seen on the list only Death Duel of KF and Cantonen Iron KF are inferior to Invincible Sticks.

I haven't seen Shaolin Ex Monk or Fists, Kicks & Evils.

Ah, OK! To be honest, saying a film is better than Death Duel Of Kung Fu is pretty high praise in my humble opinion! But then, I love the Li Teng Tsai character in Shaolin Invincible Sticks, so...

[falkor]

Ex-Monk is a lot better than Death Duel imo

[Chia Ling AKA Judy Lee]

Ex-Monk is a lot better than Death Duel imo

Well, well, looks like I need to re-watch Shaolin Ex Monk then!