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dragonherb
10-05-2009, 05:04 PM
Take a look at the movies that Jackie Chan were in from 1992-present. Which are your least favourite one's?

Filmography 1992-present (cameos excluded):

Twin Dragons (1992)
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)
City Hunter (1993)
Crime Story (1993)
Drunken Master II (1994)
Rumble in the Bronx (1995)
Thunderbolt (1995)
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)
Mr. Nice Guy (1997)
Who Am I? (1998)
Rush Hour(1998)
Gorgeous (1999)
Shanghai Noon (2000)
The Accidental Spy (2001)
Rush Hour 2 (2001)
The Tuxedo (2002)
Shanghai Knights (2003)
The Medallion (2003)
Around the World in 80 Days (2004)
New Police Story (2004)
The Myth (2005)
Rob-B-Hood (2006)
Rush Hour 3 (2007)
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)
Shinjuku Incident (2009)

instant noodles
10-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Only ones I love are Crime Story and New Police Story.Rest vary from Crap to Good but nothing spectacular.Most after First Strike are pretty dire in fact.

I Like Elaine
10-05-2009, 05:41 PM
Only ones I love are Crime Story and New Police Story.Rest vary from Crap to Good but nothing spectacular.Most after First Strike are pretty dire in fact.
You don't think Drunken Master II is spectacular??!!!!!!!!!!! :squigglemouth:

instant noodles
10-05-2009, 05:53 PM
You don't think Drunken Master II is spectacular??!!!!!!!!!!! :squigglemouth:
No,sorry...I like some scenes but not movie overall.

masterofoneinchpunch
10-05-2009, 06:45 PM
I've seen all of those except Rush Hour 3 (2007) and Shinjuku Incident (2009).

My least favorites would be The Myth and Rush Hour 2 and ...

I wasn't particularly thrilled with Rush Hour (though I have seen it several times and with the commentary where Brett pretty much states he ripped off as much as he could from other JC films), but the second just did not do much for me. Too much retread, they did not look like they were even having fun with the film.

I put The Myth out of my head after I watched it. I try my best not to think of it.

Now maybe I think Thunderbolt is the worst. The overuse of severe undercranking was just plain silly in the car races (I know they could not do the scenes at full speed, but they should have went elsewhere), Michael Wong's presence rarely helps a film though to be fair I did like the pachinko parlour scene.

Markgway
10-05-2009, 06:54 PM
Marks out of ****

Twin Dragons (1992) *** (Although that's perhaps generous)
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) ***
City Hunter (1993) ***
Crime Story (1993) ***.5 (Slightly generous again)
Drunken Master II (1994) ***
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) **
Thunderbolt (1995) **
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) ***
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) **.5
Who Am I? (1998) ***
Rush Hour(1998) **.5
Gorgeous (1999) ***
Shanghai Noon (2000) **.5
The Accidental Spy (2001) **.5
Rush Hour 2 (2001) **.5
The Tuxedo (2002) **
Shanghai Knights (2003) **.5
The Medallion (2003) **
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) *.5
New Police Story (2004) **
The Myth (2005) **
Rob-B-Hood (2006) *
Rush Hour 3 (2007) Not Seen
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) **
Shinjuku Incident (2009) **.5

Drunken Monk
10-05-2009, 07:22 PM
My marks out of five...

Twin Dragons (1992) - 2 1/2
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) - 3
City Hunter (1993) - 4
Crime Story (1993) - Can't remember it that well.
Drunken Master II (1994) - 5
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) - 2 1/2
Thunderbolt (1995) - Haven't seen.
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) - 3
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) - 2 1/2
Who Am I? (1998) - 3 1/2
Rush Hour(1998) - 3
Gorgeous (1999) - 1 1/2
Shanghai Noon (2000) - 3
The Accidental Spy (2001) - 2 1/2
Rush Hour 2 (2001) - 3
The Tuxedo (2002) - 1
Shanghai Knights (2003) - 2
The Medallion (2003) - 1
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) - Haven't seen.
New Police Story (2004) - 3 1/2
The Myth (2005) - Haven't seen.
Rob-B-Hood (2006) - 3
Rush Hour 3 (2007) - 1/2
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - 3
Shinjuku Incident (2009) - Haven't seen.

"Rush Hour 3" is the worst. It's utterly dire.

make believe
10-06-2009, 01:30 AM
Looking at this list I guess around 1998 I sort of stopped watching his movies. You can blame it on Rush Hour maybe.

Twin Dragons (1992) - good but kind of cheap and hasn't held up very well.
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) - cool but not as good as it could have been.
City Hunter (1993) - painful to watch.
Crime Story (1993) - only saw bits and pieces. shame on me indeed.
Drunken Master II (1994) - classic. if you disagree, you're wrong
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) - great movie. dumb, yes. but so entertaining.
Thunderbolt (1995) - i barely remember this one other than one intense fight in a casino
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) - ok. at this point you could tell it was over for him
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) - entertaining but like first strike it was the beginning of the end.
Who Am I? (1998) - I actually liked it more than expected. a step up from his last two
Rush Hour(1998) - it was amusing the first time but watching it sober is not nearly as amusing.
Gorgeous (1999) - I still haven't seen it
Shanghai Noon (2000) - I can't bring myself to see this yet.
The Accidental Spy (2001) - Same as above.
Rush Hour 2 (2001) - Saw it partially. That was a struggle.
The Tuxedo (2002) - Is there such a thing as negative 5 stars?
Shanghai Knights (2003) - I haven't even seen the first part.
The Medallion (2003) - Never saw
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) - Never saw
New Police Story (2004) - Better than I thought only because the drama was well done.
The Myth (2005) - Never saw
Rob-B-Hood (2006) - never saw
Rush Hour 3 (2007) - don't think I will ever see.
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - never saw
Shinjuku Incident (2009) - I want to see this one.

Monk Sante
10-06-2009, 11:07 AM
I dislike Jackie's work after Drunken Master 2. I thought Twin Dragons was a cool movie.

AbeRudder
10-06-2009, 11:22 AM
I dont mind this period of Jackie as much as some people here. My favourites from this era are Crime Story, DM2, Twin Dragons and Police Story 3. The worst ive seen are the Tuxedo and The Medallion, those were shameful. I enjoyed the Rush Hour series quite a bit, they arent up to his old standards but i thought they were pretty entertaining.

Killer Meteor
10-06-2009, 12:19 PM
City Hunter, Crime Story and Shanghai Noon are both 4/5 for me. The rest - meh. Enjoyable but in many case pretty weak and in the case of Rumble and R-B Hood downright painful!

cooksandkungfoodle
10-06-2009, 01:24 PM
been a fan of jackies for over 20 yrs now

i would count his worst films ever as

the myth
medallion
tuxedo
gorgeous
accidental spy

TibetanWhiteCrane
10-06-2009, 02:13 PM
The 90's were not kind to Jackie.... or maybe it was the other way around!

Twin Dragons (1992)- DECENT, BUT NOT GREAT!

Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)- GOOD, BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE FIRST TWO!

City Hunter (1993)- A HORRIBLE MESS!

Crime Story (1993)- GREAT, ONE OF JACKIE'S BEST OF THE DECADE!

Drunken Master II (1994)- GREAT, BUT NOT PERFECT!

Rumble in the Bronx (1995)- TRULY AWFUL!

Thunderbolt (1995)- DECENT, BUT NOT GREAT!

Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)- A FEW COOL IDEAS, BUT NOT WORTHY OF THE FRANCHISE!

Mr. Nice Guy (1997)- A PILE OF SHIT!

Who Am I? (1998)- GOOD, THE LAST "OLD STYLE JACKIE" FLICK!

Rush Hour(1998)- HOLLYWOOD GARBAGE!

Gorgeous (1999)- PRETTY BAD, WITH ONE KICKASS FIGHT!

Shanghai Noon (2000)- FAIRLY ENJOYABLE, BUT TOO CLICHEÉD!

The Accidental Spy (2001)- SOME COOL IDEAS, BUT SLUGGISH AND UNDERWHELMING!

Rush Hour 2 (2001)- MORE RATNER VOMIT!

The Tuxedo (2002)- PURE TORTURE!

Shanghai Knights (2003)- HAD ITS MOMENTS, BUT AN INFERIOR SEQUEL!

The Medallion (2003)- OH MY..........

Around the World in 80 Days (2004)- A FEW FUN IDEAS, BUT TOO DISNEY!

New Police Story (2004)- A GREAT RETURN TO FORM!

The Myth (2005)- PRETTY DISSAPOINTING!

Rob-B-Hood (2006)- SOME FUN IDEAS, BUT NOT THAT GREAT!

Rush Hour 3 (2007)- ONE OF THE WORST MOVIES I HAVE EVER SEEN!

The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)- FELL ASLEEP HALWAY THROUGH!

Shinjuku Incident (2009)- HAVEN'T SEEN!

KyFi
10-06-2009, 03:07 PM
I thought these were okay:

Supercop
First Strike
Rush Hour 1,2
Shanghai Knights

I thought these were great:

Drunken Master II
Crime Story
Shanghai Noon
Forbidden Kingdom

The rest I either haven't seen or didn't care for.

masterofoneinchpunch
10-06-2009, 06:59 PM
I'll have fun with this format:

Twin Dragons (1992): **½/**** About time for a rewatch.
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992): ***/**** Quite a fun film.
City Hunter (1993) **/**** This might depend on how much you like Wong Jing.
Crime Story (1993) ***/**** Solid acting, a so-so ending mars this a bit.
Drunken Master II (1994): ****/**** One of my favorite MA films (along with the first)
Rumble in the Bronx (1995): ***/**** First JC film seen in theater; have seen at least five times.
Thunderbolt (1995): *½/**** Oh do the driving scenes sink this film.
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) **½/**** Some good scenes; didn't like it as much the third time I saw it.
Mr. Nice Guy (1997): Review (http://hkmdb.com/db/reviews/show_review.mhtml?id=10525)
Who Am I? (1998) ***/**** I really need to do a rewatch on this.
Rush Hour(1998) **½/**** Not too much original; but decent.
Gorgeous (1999) **½/**** Have not seen the longer version yet.
Shanghai Noon (2000): ***/****
The Accidental Spy (2001): **½/****
Rush Hour 2 (2001): **/**** Too much taken from first film which was not that great.
The Tuxedo (2002): **/**** Overuse of wires.
Shanghai Knights (2003): **½/**** Decent; have already seen a couple of times.
The Medallion (2003): **½/**** Also decent
Around the World in 80 Days (2004): **½/**** Can't explain why I liked it, probably a defect.
New Police Story (2004): **/**** could not get into, but been spoilt by To for serious films.
The Myth (2005): *½/**** had too many issues.
Rob-B-Hood (2006): - 1000+ word review (http://hkmdb.com/db/reviews/show_review.mhtml?id=13691)
Rush Hour 3 (2007) - Own but not seen
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - 1000 word review (http://hkmdb.com/db/reviews/show_review.mhtml?id=13896)
Shinjuku Incident (2009) - Not Seen

dragonherb
10-06-2009, 08:29 PM
the 3 movies I like the least:

Twin Dragons (1992).. okay but not my cup of tea.

The Tuxedo (2002).. worst of them all!

Rob-B-Hood (2006).. Disposable movie. Entertaining to watch once but afterwards it's used up like a bubblegum with no flavour.

6 movies on the filmography left to watch for me (Rush Hour 2, Rush 3, Around the World in 80 Days, The Myth, The Forbidden Kingdom and Shinjuku Incident).

thehangman
10-06-2009, 09:13 PM
Accidental spy i hated this one
Tuxedo
the medallion
the myth

Grimmjow
10-06-2009, 09:59 PM
I will join in, previously a huge Jackie Chan fan!


Twin Dragons (1992)- Like the comedy although at times goes too far, some nice fights

Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)- Really like this, great stunts

City Hunter (1993)- Like a live action anime, great fun!

Crime Story (1993)- Very good movie

Drunken Master II (1994)- Dare I say a tiny bit overrated but still very very good

Rumble in the Bronx (1995)- Great untill the finale

Thunderbolt (1995)- Liked it a lot first time, second time not so much

Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)- The abscence of any strong fights was a worrying sign

Mr. Nice Guy (1997)- Crap and again a taste of things to come with the Running Chan

Who Am I? (1998)- Excellent, agree with the others - last classic Chan movie

Rush Hour(1998)- Racist unfunny Chan lite

Gorgeous (1999)- Brad Allen alone makes this worth watching

Shanghai Noon (2000)- Quite good at the time, not aged well

The Accidental Spy (2001)- Bad, took me 3 attempts to finish, just dosn't grip you

Rush Hour 2 (2001)- A little better then the first but still shit

The Tuxedo (2002)- Why Jackie??

Shanghai Knights (2003)- A huge waste of Donnie Yen and a potential screen duel of a life time!

The Medallion (2003)- Why does Bey Logan mention this so much in his commentarys??

Around the World in 80 Days (2004)- Could of been better..........but it wasn't

New Police Story (2004)- False dawn, the assembled cast was good, but the wire's were obvious

The Myth (2005)- Crap

Rob-B-Hood (2006)- Enjoyed it at first viewing but not gonna hold up in 10 yrs, cute baby

Rush Hour 3 (2007)- Why oh why

The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)- Good for what it was but could of been so much better

Shinjuku Incident (2009)- Hopefully see this soon

There's more great films to come soon everyone!! Have you heard of The Spy Next Door and the Kung Fu Kid! ?

Please Jackie re-think your career!

WuxiaFan
10-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I think these are classics:
DRUNKEN MASTER II-IMO, one of the greatest of all time.
RUMBLE IN THE BRONX-forget the story, the fights are some of the best ever filmed, IMO
MR. NICE GUY-forget the story, the fights are some of the best ever filmed, IMO, especially the door scene! Plus the final scene with the dump truck was a great ending.
POLICE STORY 3: SUPERCOP-classic w/Michelle Yeogh

I think these are honorable mentions:
POLICE STORY 4: FIRST STRIKE
FORBIDDEN KINGDOM

I will have to check out WHO AM I? - haven't seen it. The RUSH HOURs were just stupid.

blue_skies
10-07-2009, 01:06 AM
Probably the worst of the bunch would have to be City Hunter, although I have not seen anything after new police story except for rush hour 3. For me it didn't even feel like a Jackie Chan film

I would also concur with who am I? As being the last great Jackie Chan film. I also really loved rumble in the Bronx and of course the wonderful police story 3: Super cop.

One Armed Boxer
10-07-2009, 04:58 AM
The Medallion (2003)- Why does Bey Logan mention this so much in his commentarys??

Because he co-wrote the script!

Personally I would have made this list from 1998 onwards, I still enjoy most of his pre-'98 work...especially Police Story 3, Rumble in the Bronx, Drunken Master II, & even Mr Nice Guy.

I still need to check out Twin Dragons & Thunderbolt.

After '98 things gradually go from bad to worse, with perhaps the exception of New Police Story.

lillippa328
10-07-2009, 05:58 AM
New Police Story was tight...


and i love Shanghi Noon...Knights was cool too...Rush Hours were good aswell, tho 3 lacked in action, still funny....


Shinjuku was good too....drama!

massa_yoda
10-07-2009, 06:16 AM
Twin Dragons (1992)- Uneven, good kicking power from Chan. ** out of ****

Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)- Good all-around movie, benefits from Yeoh. ***

City Hunter (1993)- Ridiculous. Sometimes good. **

Crime Story (1993)- Solid, but more for story and acting, not for fighting. ***

Drunken Master II (1994)- The obvious classic ****

Rumble in the Bronx (1995)- My first Kung-fu. Chan is still plenty fast and powerful here. A good showcase even if it's missing a good finale. ***1/2

Thunderbolt (1995)- Fun, but corny. Good fighting, but Chan was doubled a lot. **1/2

Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)- Decent movie. One great fight. **1/2

Mr. Nice Guy (1997)- Forgettable. *1/2

Who Am I? (1998)- Rewatching this, Chan is starting to look slow. Still great. ***

Rush Hour(1998)- Not bad. **1/2

Gorgeous (1999)- A couple good bouts with Brad Allen lifts this one up. **3/4

Shanghai Noon (2000)- Love it. ***

The Accidental Spy (2001)- Not so bad to me. More of a straight actioner than fighitng. **1/2

Rush Hour 2 (2001)- LEAST FAV NOMINEE! *

The Tuxedo (2002)- LEAST FAV NOMINEE! *

Shanghai Knights (2003)- Good fun. Chan's best work in US. ***

The Medallion (2003)- A little underrated IMO. An example of how music and sound FX can actually ruin a perfectly good movie. **1/2

Around the World in 80 Days (2004)- Meh. Not horrible... **

New Police Story (2004)- My Fav of Chan's newer efforts. ***

The Myth (2005)- Forgettable, other than the glue factory scene. **

Rob-B-Hood (2006)- A balance of cringe-worthy scenes and not half bad scenes. **

Rush Hour 3 (2007)- Better than 2. I think i'm alone on this opinion! **

The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)- This one was just fine. ***

Shinjuku Incident (2009)- From the way people talk i can't see myself hating this one. We'll see.

Macho King
10-08-2009, 12:48 AM
Twin Dragons (1992) - Lousy *1/2
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)- pretty good. ***
City Hunter (1993)- lousy *1/2
Crime Story (1993)- Criminally underrated ****
Drunken Master II (1994) - A modern classic ****1/2
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) - The end of an era. ***1/2
Thunderbolt (1995)- So-so. **1/2
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)- Decent ***
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) - lacking. **
Who Am I? (1998)- Decent ***
Rush Hour(1998)- Surprisingly decent. ***
Gorgeous (1999)- 2 slow, 2 predictable, 2 cheeky. **
Shanghai Noon (2000)- Pretty good ***1/2
The Accidental Spy (2001) - turkey *1/2
Rush Hour 2 (2001)- I actually like this movie. ***
The Tuxedo (2002)- Terrible. 0 stars
Shanghai Knights (2003)- Best movie since 1996. ***1/2
The Medallion (2003)- Rediculous. *
Around the World in 80 Days (2004)- Never seen it.
New Police Story (2004)- Laughable plot. Even more laughable acting. *1/2
The Myth (2005)- Not good. *
Rob-B-Hood (2006)- Boring as hell and too cute for its own good. *
Rush Hour 3 (2007)- Awful. Digital Jackie double??!! You kidding me?!?! 0 stars
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)- A pleasant surprise! ***

HyperDrive
10-08-2009, 01:11 AM
I'd have to say the Tuxedo is the worst followed by The Medallion and The Myth and so on. These might get trumped next year when The Spy Next Door comes out. :xd:

GoldenPigsy
10-08-2009, 02:25 AM
The Tuxedo, without a doubt. Just... Lord.

Also, Rush Hour 3 was pretty miserable to sit through.

WalkOn
10-08-2009, 03:49 AM
Twin Dragons (1992) - **1/2 - somewhat enjoyable, but lacking in all in depts
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) - **** (love this movie! Michelle Khan was great too. Hilarious)
City Hunter (1993) *** (a guilty pleasure!)
Crime Story (1993) *** (good drama/acting)
Drunken Master II (1994) ***** (A Classic! His best fighting ever! Great cast, just great!
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) **** Great action and fun)
Thunderbolt (1995) (**1/2 it gets a 1/2 star more just because of the 2 great fights)
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) - (***1/2 Liked this one. Nice action and fun)
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) *1/2 I didn't like the story, pace and co-stars except for Norton
Who Am I? (1998) **** (great movie overall and great end fight)
Rush Hour(1998) *** (Hilarious! I enjoyed it as a comedy, action was decent)
Gorgeous (1999) **1/2 Ok, but the fights saved this one.
Shanghai Noon (2000) - **1/2 Funny, action was ok
The Accidental Spy (2001) - *1/2 not good. One decent fight scene couldn't save this one
Rush Hour 2 (2001) ***** - LOVE this movie for the comedy! I can watch over and over.
The Tuxedo (2002) - 0 stars - garbage
Shanghai Knights (2003) - *** Solid. Good. Donnie was a nice addition.
The Medallion (2003) * (one star just for the first and only great fight scene)
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) **1/2 - (So so, suprisingly great fight with Sammo Hung)
New Police Story (2004) - **** Great story! Loved the acting.
The Myth (2005) - 0 stars I couldn't sit through this one
Rob-B-Hood (2006) - **1/2 (decent at best)
Rush Hour 3 (2007) * (Huge disappointment. Sanada was wasted. The cast even acted liked they didn't want to do it!)
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) *** Suprising good! Jet & Jackie?! 'Nuff said!
Shinjuku Incident (2009) - Haven't seen it yet but looking for to it. Heard great feedback.

Great thread! Thank you!

ekisha
10-08-2009, 05:18 AM
Gorgeous (1999) - Too melodramatic
Shanghai Noon (2000) - Too Hollywoodish Crap
The Tuxedo (2002) - Too fantastic
Shanghai Knights (2003) - Too Hollywoodish Crap 2 (aka the real crap)
The Medallion (2003) - I disliked it after first 20 minutes
The Myth (2005) - Up to date, the worst Jackie Chan movie i saw, my poor eyes.
Rush Hour 3 (2007) - Too idiotic. Someone please, kill that Chris Tucker!
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - Wasn't interesting.

Raoul Duke
10-09-2009, 02:41 AM
The Forbidden Kingdom by far the worst of the worst i had high hopes seeing how it was chan and li but it was terrible

make believe
10-10-2009, 08:55 AM
is there a single person who will admit to liking The Tuxedo?

DeathFuMaster
10-10-2009, 02:32 PM
A Clue: No

Macho King
10-10-2009, 05:23 PM
The Forbidden Kingdom by far the worst of the worst i had high hopes seeing how it was chan and li but it was terrible

Really? Worse than Tuxedo or Rush Hour 3? Honestly, I was expecting a trainwreck but I was surprised how fun and inventive it was.

Coges
10-12-2009, 01:57 AM
I'm a little surprised by some of the responses here although like others have said each to their own.

My favourites from that list:
Police Story 3 - Great fights. Michelle Yeoh and Yuen Wah make it work.
City Hunter - If you don't like Wong Jing movies don't watch this. I love the humour and it has some great fights. The whole fight with Gary Daniels where they dodge every blow was brilliant.
Drunken Master 2 - Nuff said.
Who Am I - The roof top fight made this work.
Gorgeous - Watch this again and again for the Brad Allen fights and Shu Qi.

Worst picks:
Accidental Spy - I really wanted to like it. I really did.
The Medallion - The best part of this is in the extras where Jackie is seen doing some pad work.
The Tuxedo - OMG! WTF Jackie??? WTF?

I think we might be forgetting that the only reason most people have ever watched a JC movie is for the fight. The only movies from that list with a decent, engaging story and dialogue are:
Shinjuku Incident
Shanghai Noon & Knights - The comedy of Owen Wilson makes it very watchable but why oh why wasn't Donnie used more in Knights. Opportunity missed.
Crime Story - To a certain extent.
Rush Hour series - Maybe.

The other thing is that in what most of you are calling his last JC style film (Who Am I) he was 44 years old. Not a bad effort at all. Having said that Donnie Yen did IP Man at 45 and is only getting better with age.

Btw, great thread.

ekisha
10-12-2009, 01:28 PM
is there a single person who will admit to liking The Tuxedo?

I did like it until Jackie wore the tuxedo.

yuen13
10-12-2009, 01:48 PM
Twin Dragons (1992) 5/5
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) 5/5
City Hunter (1993) 3,5/5
Crime Story (1993) 5/5
Drunken Master II (1994) 5/5
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) 4,5/5
Thunderbolt (1995) 4/5
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) 4/5
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) 4/5
Who Am I? (1998) 4,5/5
Rush Hour(1998) 3/5
Gorgeous (1999) 4/5
Shanghai Noon (2000) 3/5
The Accidental Spy (2001) 3/5
Rush Hour 2 (2001) 3/5
The Tuxedo (2002) 0,5/5
Shanghai Knights (2003) 2/5
The Medallion (2003) 0,5/5
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) 1,5/5
New Police Story (2004) 5/5
The Myth (2005) 4/5
Rob-B-Hood (2006) 3,5/5
Rush Hour 3 (2007) 2/5
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) 4/5
Shinjuku Incident (2009) 5/5


from 2002-2004 he just should have stayed at home, taking a break! although he made up for it with NEW POLICE STORY.

fiol
10-12-2009, 01:50 PM
i know someone who LOVED "tuxedo" and "medallion"... i can't stand them.. too shitty for me!
about my favourite Jackie movie from 92 till now....difficult choice..maybe Rumble in the Bronx (it was the first Jackie Chan movie i've ever seen.. i still remember the time i went to the cinema to watch it ^^) and Rush Hour because it's damn funny!
But to be honest, i also like Police Story 3: Supercop , Crime Story , DM 2, New Police Story ^_^
I also bought Shinjuku Incident with great hopes... i didnt like it very much.. maybe 6/10

Raoul Duke
10-13-2009, 01:07 AM
Really? Worse than Tuxedo or Rush Hour 3? Honestly, I was expecting a trainwreck but I was surprised how fun and inventive it was.

i gotta be honest i haven't seen either Tuxedo or Rush Hour 3 so i cant say if they suck more. But i will say that Forbidden Kingdom was way to childish for me. IMO.

fiol
10-13-2009, 07:51 AM
i didnt like RH 3 a lot (although i bought 2 edition of that movie ahah xD).. i found it less funny than the others.
Forbidden Kingdom.... dull movie.. i watched it on the plane during my trip to HK last year.. :cry:

AlbertV
10-13-2009, 02:10 PM
I think The Tuxedo was his worst. They should have at least cast someone else and then bring Nicky Li to choreograph.

I have to admit I did like Gorgeous, because Jackie tries to somehow get out of the box, and I think he wanted to go that route. I'm guessing the fights against Brad Allan were somehow forced into the script. However, the real reason why I liked Gorgeous was because Tony Leung was hilarious as the gay make up artist.

Markgway
10-13-2009, 04:20 PM
In order to judge GORGEOUS fairly you have to accept that it's a romantic comedy.

If you're comparing it to DRUNKEN MASTER II then clearly one will be disappointed.

nectarsis
10-13-2009, 05:23 PM
I will admit I've always had a soft spot for Jackie..even his "bad" movies for the most part had some enjoyable parts. I will always prefer the older Jackie stuff (Police Story 1&2, Drunken Master, etc.). The one thing I REALLY wish for are proper releases of the early/mid 90's Jackie stuff with original language tracks (and no dubtitles).



Twin Dragons (1992) 3/5
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) 4/5
City Hunter (1993) 4/5
Crime Story (1993) --
Drunken Master II (1994) 5/5
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) 4/5
Thunderbolt (1995) --
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) 3/5
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) 3/5
Who Am I? (1998) 4/5
Rush Hour(1998) 3/5
Gorgeous (1999) 4/5
Shanghai Noon (2000) 2/5
The Accidental Spy (2001) 2/5
Rush Hour 2 (2001) 3/5
The Tuxedo (2002) 1/5
Shanghai Knights (2003) 2/5
The Medallion (2003) 2/5
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) --
New Police Story (2004) 5/5
The Myth (2005) 1.5/5
Rob-B-Hood (2006) --
Rush Hour 3 (2007) 1/5
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) 4/5
Shinjuku Incident (2009) --

Lionclaw
10-16-2009, 02:41 AM
Twin Dragons (1992) - only seen a few parts, didn't catch me
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) - i enjoyed it but the final fight could have been better 3.5/5
City Hunter (1993) never seen and don't plan to after seeing the SF scene
Crime Story (1993) - plan on seeing it whenever i get the chance
Drunken Master II (1994) - don't know why but i never got around to seeing it besides a few fights on the net
Rumble in the Bronx (1995) - couldn't watch all the way through
Thunderbolt (1995) - same as above
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) - not bad but not best 3/5
Mr. Nice Guy (1997) - not too memorable 2.5/5
Who Am I? (1998) - probably my favorite JC film, final fight was amazing 5/5
Rush Hour(1998) - don't know why so many rush hour haters here, entertaing 3.5/5
Gorgeous (1999) - never seen whole thing but liked final fight
Shanghai Noon (2000) - not bad but could have been better 3/5
The Accidental Spy (2001) - couldn't watch at all
Rush Hour 2 (2001) - favorite comedy movie, the best of the series even though most ppl on here disagree 5/5
The Tuxedo (2002) - liked it when i was young but i don't know why 2/5
Shanghai Knights (2003) - enjoyable, better than first but idiot hollywood misused the great Donnie Yen 3.5/5
The Medallion (2003) - liked when young but lacking in lasting impact 2.5/5
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) - never seen
New Police Story (2004) - second favorite JC film, awesome action, drama, and even comedy from someone other than JC for a change 5/5
The Myth (2005) - just lame, big let down 1.5/5 (flash back/dream scenes weren't bad.)
Rob-B-Hood (2006) - never seen it
Rush Hour 3 (2007) - action and stunts = bad, but had many laughs 2.9/5
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - enjoyed very much but i wish he could have fought jet li in modern times 4.5/5
Shinjuku Incident (2009) - never seen

i've never been a big JC fan but i love any good martial arts film. (didn't rate movies i haven't seen all the way through)

blueCobra
10-18-2009, 08:14 AM
In my opinion you can't go wrong with a Jackie movie. There is something about them that will put a smile on your face. But my least favorite is City Hunter


Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)- I could watch this movie over and over and never get sick of it

City Hunter (1993)- I don't like anime so I thought this movie was stupid

Crime Story (1993)- I heard it was a dark movie so i wasn't expecting much, but i loved it

Drunken Master II (1994)- favorite Jackie movie

Rumble in the Bronx (1995)- first Jackie movie i ever saw so it has a special place in my heart.

Thunderbolt (1995)- kinda disappointed but i was still entertained

Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)- favorite of the Australian movies

Mr. Nice Guy (1997)- with Sammo directing i hoped it would be better but still enjoyable

Who Am I? (1998)- I forget about this movie sometimes and I think it is very solid

Rush Hour(1998)- Chris Tucker is annoying, Ratner is also annoying

Gorgeous (1999)- didn't like it when it first came out but then i watched it again about a year ago and thought that it was a good movie

Shanghai Noon (2000)- Its ok. i'll still watch it every time its on cable

The Accidental Spy (2001)- don't remember anything about the movie except that he was eating niku-man

Rush Hour 2 (2001)- Ratner is such a bad director choice. plus more Tucker=more annoying. the fbi lady is super hot.

The Tuxedo (2002)- Jennifer Love's acting was bad. most of the jokes were also bad

Shanghai Knights (2003)- I was hoping for more since Donnie and Jackie share the screen

The Medallion (2003)- very forgettable

Around the World in 80 Days (2004)- Jackie shouldn't be a sidekick

New Police Story (2004)- lets you see that Jackie still has it

The Myth (2005)- I think that i'm the only one that really liked it. Ok action but i like the story. maybe i'm crazy

Rob-B-Hood (2006)- I had fun

Rush Hour 3 (2007)- Thank god Chris Tucker doesn't do any other movies besides the Rush Hour movies, i don't think i could take it.

The Forbidden Kingdom (2008)- missed opportunity. I was really excited, Jackie, Jet, good mythology, bad screenplay. Strangely enough, my girlfriend who normally can't stay awake 10 minutes during a martial arts flick, loved it. I guess martial arts fans were not their target demo.

Shinjuku Incident (2009)- ?

silver hermit
10-22-2009, 12:34 AM
city hunter easily

Yi-Long
10-22-2009, 01:18 AM
The best movie Jackie has been in the last 10-15 years, is Kung Fu Panda.

It's a shame that the Jackie who was so very ambitious and bragging about him being his own man and doing all his own stunts and wanting to give his fans the very very best, has been slecking off so severely ever since his Rumble in the Bronx break-through.

I think he genuinely thinks his fans LIKE his USA-style action flicks. He's wrong.

All we ever wanted after Drunken Master 2 and Crime Story, were movies of that same kinda quality: either serious mature crime stories with good decent action, or martial arts flicks which showcase his martial arts talents.

Instead he gives us lame comedy and mediocre action, dumbed and slowed down, and set to 'cool beats', in order to wow the 'inner-city' American crowd. Thanks Jackie(!)

Jackie will go down in the historybooks for making some very good movies, and being responsible for some great and legendary scenes.... but after '95 the chapters about him are bleak and disappointing. Such a shame.

massa_yoda
10-22-2009, 02:24 AM
It's true what you say about Jackie Post-Bronx. He seems a step slower in his work after this. He surrounds himself with great opponents like in "Who Am I" and "Gorgeous", but i wasn't as impressed with him when i saw these recently. I still think he makes good movies here and there (like the above mentioned), he just hasn't been at his best in a while.

nectarsis
10-22-2009, 02:32 AM
.

Instead he gives us lame comedy and mediocre action, dumbed and slowed down, and set to 'cool beats', in order to wow the 'inner-city' American crowd. Thanks Jackie(!)
.

Wouldn't many of the movies (especially the early/mid nineties "breakout" slew of movies have more been altereted by the US/international market companies vs. Jackie himself?

Yi-Long
10-22-2009, 07:27 AM
Wouldn't many of the movies (especially the early/mid nineties "breakout" slew of movies have more been altereted by the US/international market companies vs. Jackie himself?

Sure, the break-out movies were ALSO cut by the international distributors, but when you look at, for example, First Strike, it's clear he was already going for a more 'western' kinda movie...
With or without the cuts and dubbing, the story is still abysmall, the casting/acting horrible, and the action is mediocre at best.

I do like Gorgeous and Thunderbolt btw, but those seemed like movies that didn't have an international audience in mind: Gorgeous really is a HK production and also quite different (and better) from what we usually expect from Jackie, but personally I really liked it, and Thunderbolt just has an entertaining story and seems like a project Jackie liked doing, with the racing and stuff. Action-wise, Gorgeous has some nice fights, and Thunderbolt is also okay.

But in the end, it's Jackie who makes these decisions, and from a fan's POV, I'm pretty sure we can agree on those decisions, with a few exceptions, having been quite poor.
Especially Who Am I and Mr. Nice Guy and maybe even Accidental Spy (been too long since I've seen it, but wasn't impressed) just try wayyy to hard (and fail miserably) to reach an international audience, and what you end up with is a simple story, paperthin writing and 'cartoony' bad guys, an international cast that's just mostly CRAP and bring the movie down, and too much time and money wasted on location-shooting, and thus not enough time and energy left for focussing on the action-scenes.

It's just a huge waste.

However, I do ofcourse understand Jackie wanting to reach that international audience. I also do understand him wanting to cash in, after many MANY years of very hard and difficult work, and I understand why HE might have thought how this (these kinda 'HK' movies, and his Hollywood-picks) would have been the best way to manage all that.

From a fan's perspective ofcourse, we disagree, and mostly hate his output.
From a commercial and career perspective, Jackie has done a great job for himself the last 15 years orso.

It's just not what we hoped for, and not what we expected, when we think back to the Jackie we loved back then, cause we still hear him telling us how he wants to be 'special', how he wants to keep bringing better and better stuff to his fans, how he doesn't want to use CGI but give us the real thing, how he knows about bringing action to the screen, etc etc.

Right now, we look back at those last 15 years, and we mostly see him in movies that could have easily starred any other (asian?) actor in his roles.

shapes
10-22-2009, 03:33 PM
The Medallion (2003) 2/5
Shanghai Knights 2 (2003) 2/5

instant noodles
10-23-2009, 03:20 AM
I think he genuinely thinks his fans LIKE his USA-style action flicks. He's wrong.


I do not think so,mate.Jackie hardly is dumb or blind.He knows his hardcore fans pretty much despise many his usa efforts.,,But fame seems to be extremely important to him,for him(+film studios) it`s better to make crap movies which please many than make excellent movies which have limited audience.

instant noodles
10-23-2009, 03:33 AM
I continue a bit...Jackie has new audience who likes his USA films a lot.If he now would make period piece like Drunken Master 3 or even better,Snake And Crane Arts of Shaolin those likely would not be as succesful as Rush Hour 10.
For career wise it`s better for Jackie to lose old fans who digged him in past than new ones because there is far more in new category.



It`s still not good:squigglemouth:

butcher wing
10-24-2009, 07:08 AM
most of them

JCLegend86
05-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Least favourites:

Twin Dragons (1992) - I found this movie a bit messy
City Hunter (1993) - Too much cheesy and poor comedy, chinese people must have loved this one
The Tuxedo (2002) - Too children friendly
The Medallion (2003) - Hate Science Fiction
Around the World in 80 Days (2004) - JC and Arnold in one movie?
The Myth (2005) - I dont like seeing JC with wires, this one was to obvious.
Rob-B-Hood (2006) - No no no
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - Decent movie, but I hate the fact that JC & JL didnt team up like 20 years ago when they were younger and both were at their hight of fame.
Shinjuku Incident (2009) - I dont hate the movie, I just dont look at it as a typical JC movie, which it clearly aint.

Allthough as a fan you have to see all his movies. But these are the movies I wish he spent on better projects though they are not terrible, but as a jackie chan movie they dont score high...

lillippa328
05-02-2010, 07:14 PM
I just watched Little Big Soldier....and i enjoyed it...i was a little dissapointed that he really didnt have "fight" scenes...but his evade type style was still interesting...and it didnt look like he was doubled at all...so thats good!

ChineseSausage
06-15-2011, 12:54 PM
I found The Tuxedo actually to be entertaining, but to me The Medallion ranks IMHO as one of his most boring ones. The same goes for Around The World in 80 Days.

I going to pop those DVD's again, it's been quite some time since I last saw them. :)

rdenn
06-15-2011, 01:30 PM
first strike, pure nonsense.

TheGrimReaper
06-15-2011, 06:48 PM
Twin Dragons (1992) - mediocre, sharing direction is not always good decission... 4/10

Police Story 3: Supercop (1992) - pretty decent in my eyes - 6/10

City Hunter (1993) - I couldn't quite get the overall feel of this movie - too cartoonish - 4/10

Crime Story (1993) - dead serious Jackie is pulling a really interesting drama presence - 7/10

Drunken Master II (1994) - hmmm great fighting scenes, but the atmosphere is lost from the original - 8.5/10

Rumble in the Bronx (1995) - awful scrpit, nice stunt work, decent fights, however it is a bit poinltess - 4/10

Thunderbolt (1995) - one of the worst movies in Jackie's carrer - 0.4/10

Police Story 4: First Strike (1996) - another forgettable movie for me - stupid all the way - 1/10

Mr. Nice Guy (1997) - directed by Sammo and still smells like manure - nothing was right there... 0.4/10

Who Am I? (1998) - a nice throwback to the old ages, but not good enough - it has some good sides shown though - 6/10

Rush Hour (1998) - comedy with stunts - typical buddy movie, but nothing out of the ordinary - 5/10

Gorgeous (1999) - as it was trying to be several different movies at once, it falls flat on its back - Bradley James Allan steals the show - 4/10

Shanghai Noon (2000) - another Hollywood attempt - was good, but it lacks in some departments - but nice choreography by Yuen Biao though - 6/10

The Accidental Spy (2001) - boring and too long - Jackie, the new Bond - give me a break - 3/10

Rush Hour 2 (2001) - a bit improvement over the original, but still too narrow-minded at some points - 5.5/10

The Tuxedo (2002) - crap... 0.5/10

Shanghai Knights (2003) - another sequel, the final fight was severely cut 9although it exist in the extras) and this alone lowered the mark - 5/10

The Medallion (2003) - the same as Tuxedo - boring and insult to my brain... 0.3/10

Around the World in 80 Days (2004) - disjointed and looks like a big video clip of cameos - not helping much either... 2/10

New Police Story (2004) - good movie - not too dramatical, but strong in that section, nice fights and storyline - rises up above most of Jackie's movies - 8/10

The Myth (2005) - kinda liked this movie - it needed a bit more to become a really good - failed potential - 4/10

Rob-B-Hood (2006) - yes baby is cute, but Jackie is a total mess in there - nothing interesting here, move along - 2.5/10

Rush Hour 3 (2007) - ohh the horror - my eyes still burn with regret seeing this one - 0.6/10

The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - the 3 1/2 minute fight between the two legends can not delete the funny taste I have in my mouth - great cinematography, but tons of potential lost - it should have been a lot better - 5.5/10

Shinjuku Incident (2009) - my personal favorite - without a single fight, Jackie delivers one of the best performance here (for me) - 9.5/10

I'll add some more titles, not mentioned before:

Little Big Soldier (2010) - interesting movie overall, but somewhat bit confusing as well - what was Jackie tried to do there - anyway a solid 7/10

The Spy next door (2010) - avoid at all costs, erasing brain cells with the speed of light - 0.2/10

Karate KId (2010) - nice performance by old man, although Will Smith's child is annoying, however the movie was not ruined entirely - 7/10

That's my 50 cents :)

Greetings

Markgway
06-16-2011, 01:09 AM
I thought The Spy Next Door wasn't bad for a Hollywood kids movie.

I knew before I watched it mind that it wasn't going to be A JACKIE CHAN FILM.