help finding kung fu movies

[Snake and Crane]

Hey everyone

New to this forum but have been watching kung fu movies since they first appeared on USA network's "Kung Fu Theater". I am limited to Hollywood Video and Netflix as places I can find kung fu movies, so I am wondering where else I can find them for rental purposes. Otherwise, anyone know where I can find these movies to buy. I have been looking at kungfumovies.net, but I don't want to buy a crappy movie and would like to at least have a place with pics from the movie like kungfucinema.com so I can make sure I dont buy a lemon.

Any links would be appreciated

Thanks

[tino]

I usually buy my kung fu movies from deepdiscountdvd.com, hkflix.com, and sometimes from dvdempire.com. I dont rent them at all so cant help on that. Kungfucinema is a good source for reviews and pics. If you have questions about a movie just post it on this site. People on here are very helpful and will give you their honest opinion. Kungfumovies.net, I wouldnt recommend them have had problems recieving movies from them in the past.

[Chinese Sausage]

Used to get some at Suncoast and Fry's Electronics. But if you want more titles you'll have to order overseas.8)

[FiveSwords]

Also, check out DDDHouse (Hong Kong) and edaymovie.com (USA). Have ordered from both and have had no problems.

[Tosh]

Where do you live? If your in or around a big city you may have a good rental place and just don't know it, my jaw hit the floor when I finally strolled in a video rental store I had passes by hundreds of times and realized they had a shaw brother section.

[Snake and Crane]

live near Des Moines, Iowa. the hollywood video in my city has about 100 kung fu movies in a section all by their lonesome. Will check other places though.

Thanks gang

[Lei Kung]

Yeah, it's tough being a kung fu movie fan in the midwest. I'm from Kansas. When I finally turned 18 a few years ago, I immeadiately got a credit card so I could buy kung fu movies online. Do you have Best Buy up there? They carry a decent selection here.

[Snake and Crane]

there is a best buy in town, so ill check there. Otherwise it is hollywood video, and I've bought some real stinkers for kung fu flicks, so I'm hesitant to buy.

[Snake and Crane]

nothing here at the best buy for kung fu. Looks like im gonna have to buy some online and take my fair share of crappy kung fu movie purchases.

the main movies I have not seen that I see often recommended are:

The 36th chamber and return to 36th chamber, the loot, dirty ho, and shaolin vs lama (although I have rented the OTHER shaolin vs lama movie).

Which of these are better than the others?

[Lei Kung]

36th Chamber is a must. If you're fairly new to this genre, I recommend you to watch every Gordon Liu movie you can get your hands on that was directed by Liu Chia Liang.
Challenge of the Masters
Shaolin Challenges Ninja
Legendary Weapons of China
Dirty Ho
Fist of the White Lotus
Executioners of Shaolin
Invinvible Pole Fighter

some good John Liu and Hwang Jang Li movies
Secret Rivals 1 and 2
Incredible Kung Fu Mission
Invincible Armour
Mars Villa
Hellz Windstaff
Heroes of the Wild

the Venoms are a must also
2 Champions of Shaolin
Five Deadly Venoms
Killer Army
Invincible Shaolin
Kid With the Golden Arms
10 Tigers of Kwantung
Flag of Iron

most Jackie Chan from before Hollywood
Fearless Hyenna
Drunken Master I and II
Young Master
Dragon Lord
Project A
Wheels on Meals
Dragon Fist

Yuen Baio --
Prodigal Son
Dreadnaught
Knockabout
Zu: Warriors From the Magic Mountain


These are a few of the movies that gave me my start. They're for the most part, easy to find and highly regarded classics.

[Chen Zhen]

if ur new to the genre, rather than recommend specific films (i could go on for days naming em), i recommend u check out the works of certain directors/choreographers:

Lau Kar Leung/Liu Chia Liang*
Sammo Hung*
Yuen Woo Ping*
Chang Cheh
Jackie Chan*
Joseph Kuo
Lee Tso Nam
Ng See Yuen

* - they direct and choreograph

[Lei Kung]

yeah, that probably would've saved me some time

[Snake and Crane]

thanks again for the help

I'm not new to the genre, I just don't have the access to all of the movies that are listed.

Like Dirty Ho, The Loot, and Flag of Iron I will most likely have to buy to ever have a chance to see them.

Hollywood video in my city has about 100 kung fu movies, but i'd say 70 of them are crappy looking and I don't want to waste a rent on them. They have a lot of the "Chess Boxing", "Dolemite", and "Wu Tang" collection movies there. I rented one chess boxing movie and it was terrible, and had no kung fu in it at all.

Just need some ideas of places to look for the movies you all talk about as being the greatest.

Thanks again for all your input gang!

[morgoth]

DAMN!!!!!!

That would be a dream to have 100 movies at my Hollywood Video. I think mine has like 5 old school movies and maybe 5 new school. I still can't get over it. 100 freaking movies!

[Shaolin Dog Paw]

The dollar bins at Wall-mart have never done me wrong, and Big Lots has a suprisingly large selection of dollar kung fu movies.

Last week i picked up Blood of the Dragon, Street Fighter, Young Master, Young Tiger, New Fists of Fury, and Duel of the Tao Tough.

For anything new, box sets, special editions, cheap celestials, i strongly reccommend yesasia.com

[Northern B]

Some good posts already regarding where to buy

You should also check this stuck thread

p081.ezboard.com/fkungfufandomfrm1.showMessage?topicID=9161.topic (http://p081.ezboard.com/fkungfufandomfrm1.showMessage?topicID=9161.topic)

You'll see some certain movies crop up time and again

eg the victim, loot, the challenger, last hurrah for chivalry etc

You mentioned poor movies and there are HEAPS of em

some I implore You to run a mile from...

Fire and ice hand
drunken fist boxing
fearless hyena 2
dragon fight
8 Escorts

and here are some IMO over rated movies...
18 bronzemen
knockabout
The Odd couple
Death Duel of Kung Fu
Mars Villa
Lion Vs Lion

That said In time you'll find the directors, actors , style of movies you like and you may well disagree with My choices!

[morgoth]

Out of that list, I have only seen Death Duel of Kung fu and Knockabout, but those are 2 of my favorites. How exactly are they overrated? 8 Escorts isn't that bad either.

[Northern B]

Mr Goth

I just didn't think they lived up to the hype-Death Duel contains way too much doubling, needless acrobatics and some terribly choreographed fights with bad angles etc..

knockabout has too much comedy and again didn't live up to the hype.

As for 8 escorts boring dosent begin to do it justice!

There are much better movies IMO such as the Victim or the loot- Skillfully choreographed movies that can be watched time and again.

There are also some UNDER rated movies llike crazy horse intelligent monkey or riing of death

As I said tho just my view..

[morgoth]

Of course these are just opinions, that's why i love talking about it.

The fights in Death Duel and Knockabout were simply amazing IMO. Death Duel did have one weapons scene with John Liu vs. Chung Fat and another guy. It reminded me a bit of Secret Rivals 2 but all of the other scenes are spectacular. If you said the story wasn't anything special I would definitely agree, but no way we can agree on the kung fu not living up to what you had heard abotu these going in.

Also-there were no stunt doubles when Wong Tao came flying into teh scene to kick Eagle Han in the head full contact.


And 8 Escorts does have it's problems, but Lily has a ton of fights(she may have been doubled for some moves:p ), and the end fight between Dorian Tan and Chan Wei Man is great. I liked this movie a little more than Blooded Treasury fight.

And yes, there are better movies than these, but Knockabout is actually my favorite Sammo movie just ahead of Prodigal Son and Warriors Two.

[Northern B]

I think You are missing my point

The fights in the movies I listed don't live to up the Victim or the loot (or many others I could list)

Death duel could have been a much better movie but the fights let it down i found it inconsistent

As for 8 Escorts- again poor angles, bad choreography- it's terrible!

Interesting that You rate knockabout ahead of Prodigal and Warriors.

I think the fights in those 2 are better!

[morgoth]

I guess I was trying to miss the point. You consider The Loot and The Victim to be the best and nothing else can be considered good?

[Northern B]

No I didn't say that and certainly don't think that!

I used those films as an example of the type of Kung Fu I rate (as I said there are many others) I also gave the reasons why I don't rate the others

Guess We have to agree to disagree...

[morgoth]

That is for sure. I understand what you are saying for Death Duel, but you may not be a kick fighting movie fan. Definitely one of my top 5 kick fight movies.

[Northern B]

As it goes I do rate kickers some that feature super kicking are

Shaolin plot
Showdown at the cotton mill (ok you have to wait but...)
Fearless Young boxer
Master Killers
Loot
Challenger
Drunken Master 1 & 2
Hellz Windstaff
Buddha Assasinator

[morgoth]

Yeah, we are just going into more opinions. I haven't seen some of those but I liked the legwork in death duel better than DM 1 and 2, Hellz windstaff, Buddha Assassinator, and Showdown at the Cottonmill.

John Liu couldn't take D. Tan or Hwang in a real fight, but he looks great on screen. Then you have Eagle han who may be even mroe limber than Liu!

[morgoth]

I watched Death Duel of Kung Fu again for the first time in a while. I have to bump my rating up from an 8 to a 9/10 for the spectacular finale.

My question is, did anyone notice Chung Fat in his 3 different roles? He may have had more. I am guessing he at least had a small part in the stunt doubling also. And this movie definitely gets the award for worst stunt double wig of all time.

[SDKungFu]

I'm looking for the name of the movie in which a master who spit a lot trained his pupil by making him push a millstone, and another trained by jumping out of pits of water. Any idea which film this is? I don't know if it was a Shaw Bros flick or not. I saw it on BBT as a wee pup. Help!! Please!!

[Vorvadoss]

Since you guys mentioned "Death Duel of Kung Fu"... How does the R2 55th chamber/prism release compare to the R1 Tai Seng vension?

[Knockabout]

Hey SDKungFu,
I think the movie you're looking for is Invincible Shaolin (Shaw Bros)..

At least it's a venom movie (i.e. with the cast of 5 deadly venoms), that I know for sure :smokin

[SDKungFu]

I think that's it! Thanks!:rollin

[peringaten]

That film sounds like Marco Polo to me - I haven't checked either either MP or Invincible Shaolin to clarify, but Marco Polo, if I remember correctly, features Fu Sheng on the millstone getting taught by the spitting master, and Kuo Choi in the pits...

[ironfistedmonk2003]

It's Marco Polo