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Old 09-10-2009, 08:53 PM   #31
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It's nice to be able to just go to the store and get a movie. You don't have to wait and hope that it comes in the mail. And sometimes there are movies that weren't released on DVd before, like Black Magic 2, and hopefully HK Godfather some day.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:23 PM   #32
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but why is it a big deal that MB has announced these?Doesnt celestial already have them out?
Also, the IVL's don't have the English dub (assuming its the classic dub). I have about 65 IVLs, but I'm buying certian MB titles for the classic dub and special features.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:40 AM   #33
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oh ok thanks
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:13 AM   #34
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Plus, from a video-geek point of view, the MB video transfers are better than the IVL transfers. The IVL transfers are improper PAL-to-NTSC interlaced transfers, while the MB transfers are direct film-speed 24fps progressive scan transfers. Some people can tell the difference, others don't or just don't care... kinda envy them... damn video classes
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:12 PM   #35
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Hey magicpoe,
I don't know who the people are that MB is thinking about getting for commentaries, but ask them if they would consider getting Dr. Craig Reid for any of them.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:18 PM   #36
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Plus, from a video-geek point of view, the MB video transfers are better than the IVL transfers. The IVL transfers are improper PAL-to-NTSC interlaced transfers, while the MB transfers are direct film-speed 24fps progressive scan transfers. Some people can tell the difference, others don't or just don't care... kinda envy them... damn video classes
OPY - How can you tell the difference or what should I look for? IMO, the IVL transfers look great to me. I don't have a super home theater system; just a Mitsubishi 1080i TV and an Oppo 981H.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:50 PM   #37
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OPY - How can you tell the difference or what should I look for? IMO, the IVL transfers look great to me. I don't have a super home theater system; just a Mitsubishi 1080i TV and an Oppo 981H.
One way to tell is in any scene with a very slow horizontal pan. The blending of frames that come from interlacing 24fps film to 29.97fps NTSC video (four times a second at even intervals) results in ever-so-slight ghosting and an ever-so-slight delay in image movement. Now imagine the ghosting and blended frames that come from film sped up to 25fps to acommodate 25fps PAL video, but then incorrectly tranferred to 29.97fps NTSC video! All that said, I believe most of us wouldn't notice these problems without actively looking for them (I'm not even going to touch the "degradation" that could occur from upconverting a DVD image to match that Mitsubishi 1080i TV of yours), and most of us here reject what happened out of principle, which is completely understandable: like I said before, it's not the correct presentation, and even Hollywood wouldn't let it happen to their worst films. IMO, there's a much more annoying effect, which would've occured even in PAL format: all the audio is 4% faster, and I JUST DON'T LIKE IT!
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Bronx Rican took the words right out of my mouth
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One way to tell is in any scene with a very slow horizontal pan. The blending of frames that come from interlacing 24fps film to 29.97fps NTSC video (four times a second at even intervals) results in ever-so-slight ghosting and an ever-so-slight delay in image movement. Now imagine the ghosting and blended frames that come from film sped up to 25fps to acommodate 25fps PAL video, but then incorrectly tranferred to 29.97fps NTSC video! All that said, I believe most of us wouldn't notice these problems without actively looking for them (I'm not even going to touch the "degradation" that could occur from upconverting a DVD image to match that Mitsubishi 1080i TV of yours
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I noticed the ghosting, but no delay in image movement when I was watching IVL HEROES OF SUNG. I'll keep looking for image movement delays on others. Could you please address the "degradation" that could occur from upconverting a DVD image to my Mitsubishi? Any IVL that I've played looks very good (to me, at least).

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Old 11-16-2009, 01:43 AM   #40
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Could you please address the "degradation" that could occur from upconverting a DVD image to my Mitsubishi? Any IVL that I've played looks very good (to me, at least).
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Maybe "degradation" wasn't the best word, but in an upconversion, whether done in the DVD player on in the TV, the image in a standard DVD resolution (480 vertical pixels) has to be enlarged to fit the native resolution of the TV during playback (in the case of an HDTV, either 720 or 1080 vertical pixels). Anyone who's had experience enlarging small images in Photoshop or other image editors may recognize the results of improper resizing. There could be jagged edges, images that look a bit pixelized, etc. Bottom line is, the less processing done to a DVD picture, the better, and if it has to be done, some of the videophiles out there will tweak the settings on their TVs and DVD players for the best results. For what it's worth, I wouldn't worry: my movies look damn nice enough on my 42" Pioneer 1080 plasma.
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