Wow, I agree with you Mark. Jackie Chan needs to stop and think before he opens his mouth. A lot of his recent public statements were all pretty stupid comments. I guess he's going to trash his most famous movie, thats smart. And, think he's missing the point of movies and games period. They are for entertainment, no matter what content is in them.

I agree with Kingali… You need to stop slagging off the man that made HK cinema what it is! Im sure – like many quotes etc from famous people – they are usually taken well out of propotion, so don't believe everything you read as the saying goes. Respect the Chan! This site wouldn't have half the hits if there was no Jackie Chan…

Jackie's apparently taken too many hard blows to the head. Sure, some of his movies could qualify as mistakes (anything he's made in the last 5 years or so, for instance), but this statement about the original Drunken Master is a blatant attempt at being uber politically correct. Ridiculous. I love Jackie, think he was one of the most talented & entertaining moviestars in cinematic history, but lately I'd have to agree he should think through some of his public statements a bit more carefully. And his film choices, too (The Spy Next Door looks like a Golden Turkey nominee for sure).

I didn't say this comment was the stupidest. I agree his “people need to be controlled” statement was worse. That still doesn't explain why he would think it would have been better had he never made DRUNKEN MASTER, simply because he plays a drunk. He has actually expressed pride in the movie in past years, particularly in his fight with Hwang Jang-lee. Why dismiss the whole thing now?

It's possible Jackie Chan didn't mean what he reportedly said but the same could be said of his “people need to be controlled” statement. I still see a trend here. That's why I'm suggesting he think a little more before making these public statements so his true meaning is understood. I'm starting to think Jackie has “Joe Biden” disease.

No matter how you read this commentary, there is a huge bias in it and that is calling Jackie Chan somewhat stupid.

At the end of the day everyone in the whole world can talk bad about people, it is so easy to give negative criticism. And this is not the first time that Jackie Chan has said to regret the movie. He gets sick of people asking him to do drunken master style in his movies…and with the age of 55 I would also be kinda sick if people only want to hire me cause of one style.

And not to forget that game he published is child-friendly…you dont realize that this game is suppose to be played by youngsters, who don't necessarily know that you “kill” in the game. After all Jackie Chan is the creator of Dragon Hearts project, which is to help orphans and children and educate them.

Read this commentary 3 times and you will certainly agree with me.

I agree Mark, why knock earlier films, in fact why mention them at all if you have supposedly moved on? Keep talking about current projects. Actress Deborah Unger blasted David Cronenberg's CRASH after she was virtually naked the whole film. That film landed her a lead role in THE GAME by with Mike Douglas.

Hi, Just to chime in here. Firstly the whole comment about 'people need to be controlled' was A. mistranslated and B. taken out of horribly out of context by reporters. Secondly the comment about Drunken Master first came up in reply to a question by high school students at the New International School Thailand on November 9th. Jackie was asked how he portrayed his ideals of peace, environmental issues etc in his movies and he said that when he was young he didn't care FOR EXAMPLE when he made Drunken Master he didn't realise that he was sending a message to drink, fight, fall down was OK. Later on when he grew up and learnt a little he realised he had a soical responsibility and had to make Drunken Master 2 to correct that message. IF you watch DM2 you will see that Jackie's father throughout the movie tells him not to drink and tries to prevent him drinking (even beating him at one point because he drank). As stated in the HK version the end shows the very severe consequences of drinking the industrial alcohol.

He was merely repeating those comments in the context of promoting a game aimed at kids which is a spin off of a movie which he has said has a very strong anti-war message. We don't have the full statement he made and we don't know what was edited out when the articles were written.

Lastly Jackie himself recognises that without his movies he wouldn't have a platform from which to speak now.

In this article from today's news he says so himself in response to a question about the 'uncivilised' use of cars in his movies ( http://et.21cn.com/star/zhuixing/gangtai/2009/1… ).

Mark, I think there must be some kind of Misconception, here, especially since he thinks one way, and says it one way, that could be mistranslated, or misconstrued, I know for myself, that when i say things, it can easily be taken out of context, Besides, JC is known ALWAYS as a Smiling, Happy “buffoon” in his movies, that sometimes, I think he has the need to “shed” that Facade, and be REAL for a change…Kinda like Cosby, how he's KNOWN for being Goofy & SiLLY, but when shizz goes down, he's not afraid to speak the truth of HOW he FeeLS…That's Great that you Revere his movie so much, and that's unfortunate that the Hong Kong Film industry is not Proud of its Kung Fu Cinematic Heritage, the likes of which would not have exposed their Flicks internationally, like how Hard-Boiled, or more recently, the Influx of Wuxia flicks that started after the Breakout Success of CTHD, then Yimou's Hero & HoFDaggers…So yeahs, take it easy there, Guy, seems like you're just piss'd, but I don't think it's personal, man, Gaijin's will react like this, hahaha, very typically, us Americans are SO Easily “outraged” yet when it comes to actually listening and being calm about something first, BEFORE, properly communicating our true frustration…Just don't be mad at the guy, cuz that's not gonna change a thing, only change your perception to see the Truth of the Matter…That way, u save time and energy…

Tolerant?! Um, the sequel makes fun of the mentally-challenged and has a slight misogynistic streak. His “lesson in tolerance” movie is Heart of a Dragon.

“Does that peace involve firing brightly colored globs of magical light at opponents to make them die… I mean, disappear?”

I think he means stuff with blood and gore in it.

Who cares?

And people probably do need to be controlled. Most of them are morons.

There is a difference between kungfu skills and moral values.The kungfu skills executed in drunken master was excellent which hardly any kungfu movies can truly rival(except the magnificent butcher and the prodigal son).Jackie was being truthful when he said that there wasn't sufficient moral values in drunken master.However,he was very proud of the kungfu skills in drunken master.That was why he decided to seek perfection by making drunken master 2,a movie with unsurpassed kungfu displays and good moral values.After making the speech,I love Jackie more as I find him to be very truthful,a quality u can hardly find in the entertainment industry!!!!!!!

While i agree with many of the conflicting viewpoints here (i guess what i mean is that i see both sides), I still agree a little more with Mark.

here is why….

When i was first exposed to these films at an early age (and im sure this PARTLY is because to my upbringing) i knew right from wrong, something that was CLEARLY mapped out in the “plots” of these cinematic gems. I always rooted for the good guy….because he was good…and he stood up for the opressed (or he himself was opressed). If anything, these films solidified the values that were already installed by my parents. A basic morality play if you will.

So, regardless of the level of violence portrayed in the films, i knew not to hit someone, but i knew who to root for. In the case of Drunken Master, well i knew i couldn't drink at an early age, and as i grew older, i learned that alchohol really screws up your fighting ability…so no harm no foul. i rooted for jackie not because he was drinking, but because he wanted to save his father from the evil HJL…which was the right thing to do.

I see what jackie means. he is an international icon of family entertainment…in which originally he was an icon of action and ass-kickery. but he should also take in to regard the millions of youths who have watched these films and have strived to do what is right, thanks to his cinematic examples.

you are talkin about yourself here. Jackie feels that he needs to convey the message to the people who arent as smart as you boy.

I agree, I think it's more to do with his Lack of Clarity in his Message, he doesn't quite know HOW to Properly express himself without controversy, shortcuts, but he's more of an EmotionaL Speaker, he speaks from the heart, regardless of the connotations, tones, etc…

I just watch'd him speaking about Bruce Lee in the History Doc: How Bruce Lee Changed the World, and even when he praised Bruce, in one story, he noted how he learned from Bruce to keep in character for a scene, even when things Fuck up, like when Bruce accidentally bopped JC in the head with one of the Kali Sticks or whatever…

He just sounds bitter, but I think he's like an Old Grandma in a Man's body, he is quite Sullen, oftentimes, but I don't think he's expecting anyone to take him serious, or even is he aware of the Ramifications of what he says, he just speaks from this Quasi-Innocent Realm, where it's just like his own inner dialogue//bubble, and he's not aware of the Contradictions or whatnot…I suppose he doesn't think much about how he's saying anything, just expressing himself from how he FeeLS, and that's the problem, he doesn't think about the potentiaL Ramifications of how he may come across, if anything, I think he's a bit Socially Ignorant about the effect he has…Or rather, he's just Naive, like that…Kinda like a Big Kid, he used to be the Class Clown, who's now trying to make a name for himself doing Serious things in Serious Business…and, Although that's cooL, and nothing's Wrong with that, this is probably the least of anyone's worries…

Who's gonna take an Action Movie Star Seriously, anyway?

Now, if he was a PoLiticaL Figure, or running for OFFICE, where he had actual influence to affect change on others, I'd be a bit more worried…

Otherwise, he's just another Quirky Character, who's just, let's just say, the Crazy Uncle who says crazy shit, but well, u know, u can't help but love the guy, even when his stories don't add up or make quite sense, u know, in the end, he just means well, so cut the guy some slack, haha, not like he's gonna live up to anyone's standards, especially not in the West, and why should he?

Took him Twenty Plus years to break into this market, and even then, he's not able to make the movies the way he wants to, for better or worse…

So whatever, Mr. Grumpy Chan is alright with me, haha, as long as u know not to take the guy Seriously, besides, some people are just passionate, although not quite able to Articulate their thoughts and feelings, and that's a shame, but well, in the Larger Scheme of Things, it's no big deal, as long as we Recognize his Loonie SeLF, it don't matter, though it's fun to chat about…haha…

He may not be a role model to you or me, but he wants to be a role model to kids. That's his choice and there's no reason to disrespect him for that.

And, as posted by Chan Fan, it does seem that the statements are blown way out of proportion and taken out of context.

All of us here appreciates good kungfu and Drunken Master and Drunken Master 2 are both excellent showcases of it. BUT kung fu IS subjectively violent. Jackie is just being honest and I don't understand why anyone would be offended by it. It just doesn't make sense to me. It makes MORE sense that someone who doesn't appreciate kung fu might be offended by a kung fu movie for its “violence.”

The seven fortunes namely sammo hung,Jackie chan, yuen biao ,yuen wah,yuen kuei,yuen bun and yuen tak have shown us that through tough training,excellent acrobatic skills can be executed.Just take Sammo hung for example,despite being obese,he was able to do very beautiful somersaults!!!!! I believe with their tough training,they hve learned to be humble,so I strongly believe that what Jackie commented that moral values were lacking in drunken master was from the bottom of his heart.Well,with the making of drunken master 2 shows that he really loved the kungful in drunken master!

Look yo it's his opinion he's the one that made the film not the film made him so fuck it if he says it it was a mistake then it was a mistake fuck it

Im from Holland and my Enlish is not the best and want to say that i agree with Hawks oppinion.Movies are meant for entertainment and movies never cured world problems.If we want morral advice in movies we will ask the Dalai Lama to make films for us. looks like Kung fu stars like Jackie and Jet Li when they felt stiff and old and saw the younger generation doing new and good stuff',they suddenly became Taoistis or Wu Wei and want to give wise advices to us after they did all those years the things they are good in. The audience judges about the movies and are responseble for the succes of it. Jackie take my eyes and look with it and you see what I see.Jackies style is legendary and motivated me to do martial arts.Fighting is Jackies trade mark and i love it and i want only more. PEACE…

Jackie is now speaking without Willie Chan's filtering. He's said a lot of controversial things since their breakup. The good thing is we're seeing him unfiltered. The bad is, well, we get stuff like this.

I mean, look, of all the controversial things he's said, the intentions has always been good.

He is expressing his ideas, there is some truth to the film being of getting drunk and fighting, but to the ones actualyl watching and understanding. the movie was to place self-control upon ones self and knowing the limits of oneself.