Dragon Dynasty’s two-disc release of POLICE STORY 3: SUPERCOP on DVD is a major, feature-rich upgrade from the previous Dimension Films release but purists will still find fault in the fact that the same international cut was used which is missing several minutes of inconsequential scenes made available on the original Hong Kong print.

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This release could be considered SUPERCOP 2.0. DD salvages the same title, cut, credits, and English-dubbed soundtrack from The Weinstein Company’s Dimension Films vault and adds to it a cleaner anamorphic print, optional Cantonese audio with English subtitles, improved packaging and menus, and an excellent collection of bonus material topped by an exclusive interview with Jackie Chan.

This version looks superior to most previous releases (see comparison image) and that alone makes it worth considering but I know collectors will be wondering about the roughly two minutes of cuts. On his audio commentary that accompanies this release, Bey Logan talks about each of the cuts made to the international print and offers explanation for why they were made. The cuts, which can still be found on Hong Kong versions of the movie including an out-of-print Mega Star version, are not that important to the film. Bits cut here and there include some talking among supporting players at the beginning, discussion referencing things that only Hong Kong audiences would fully appreciate or extended comedy with Chan falling out of a tree he has become lodged in.

At the same time, I don’t buy the reasoning for omitting this footage. I tend to agree with Jackie Chan in his interview on this disc when he suggests that cuts were made simply because someone was paid to “fix” the movie for the American market and not because the cuts were really necessary. It could be argued that there are a lot of references in the movie that Americans might not fully understand such as why in one scene Jackie is seen wearing makeup or in another is talking about money collected by Hong Kong authorities eventually going to the Chinese government after the “handover.” Yet the Weinsteins chose to leave these scenes in while removing others. They did similar nonsense with their release of IRON MONKEY and THE PROTECTOR. The rule seems to be that if a foreign movie is headed for theaters then make it more American with a series of arbitrary cuts.

Bottom line, DD should have included the original Hong Kong print, on a separate disc if necessary, because collectors will not be satisfied with less even if the general public is. Once again, the label’s “Ultimate Edition” claim is proven to be exaggerated and this is one reason why DD will continue to be criticized despite their substantial efforts to produce quality releases with the materials at their disposal.

Thankfully, viewers now have the option of ditching the awful English-dubbed track for the original Cantonese track. This is especially important for two reasons. One, the English track that accompanied Dimension Films’ theatrical release changed most of the music to American pop and hip hop. It’s crap, including the Devo song at the end and I say that as a fan of Devo. The worst sin is that they dropped a decent Cantopop song sung by Jackie Chan during the outtakes and replaced it with a Tom Jones rendition of “Kung Fu Fighting.” I’m sure some genius actually thought it was a clever or hip idea. Note to distributors: never ever use the song “Kung Fu Fighting” in conjunction with any martial arts movie release unless you’re targeting children.

The second reason we can be thankful for the Cantonese-language option is that SUPERCOP was Jackie Chan’s first Sync sound movie. That means for the first time in his career his voice was being recorded as the movie was being shot instead of having someone else come in and dub his voice in post-production. So for once we get to hear Jackie Chan’s native voice recorded live and in their DVD release Dimension Films threw it away. Now, Jackie Chan and Michelle Yeoh did perform their own English dialogue for the Dimension Films version which is fine but having the option to revert to the original is very welcome for those of us comfortable with reading subtitles.

As is usually the case, the real strength of DD’s release is found in its bonus material. For this one, they score big with exclusive interviews with Jackie Chan, director Stanley Tong and JC stunt team member Ken Lo. There is also an older interview with Michelle Yeoh and as usual, audio commentary by the knowledgeable and entertaining Bey Logan.

Disc One

Audio Commentary with Bey Logan – The Weinstein Company’s Asian acquisitions head, film producer and martial arts movie guru Bey Logan weighs in on the film with his well informed insights and opinion. Of particular interest is where he points out all, or at least most of the places in the film where cuts were made to the original Hong Kong version. This includes a description of what we’re missing. He also discusses changes made to the film score and ends with a mildly defensive statement on the company’s efforts to present in his public opinion the best possible release to meet the needs of fans and the market. No doubt, this will in no way sate the ire of a vocal minority of Dragon Dynasty’s critics but it shows that the company is well aware of public opinion.

Bey is perhaps now one of the most seasoned DVD commentators around and he effortlessly runs through a litany of facts while often stopping to give detailed play-by-play analysis of scenes like a pro sports announcer. This includes identifying actors, stuntmen, locations, and even martial arts techniques or stances. I know a few readers get tired of me constantly praising Bey’s work but I feel strongly that it is well deserved given the effort he puts into each commentary, even though I do not always agree with his opinions. For example, I cannot support his defense of Tom Jones’ rendition of “Kung Fu Fighting” that sadly replaced Jackie Chan’s song during the outtakes at the end of the international version of the movie. There is no defense for using that song on a soundtrack regardless of who sings it.

Disc Two

Exclusive Interview with Jackie Chan (19 minutes) – After releasing several Jackie Chan movies without interviews from the man himself, DD finally scores an exclusive. In his characteristically broken English, Jackie runs through his memory of making the movie, some of which is hard to fully understand but Bey covers most of the same topics in greater detail on his commentary so I recommend listening to that first. The most interesting comments from Jackie focus on his frustration with the editing of his movie for the American market. He makes a compelling argument suggesting that a 20-something aged editor has no right to rearrange in two weeks what took movie veterans like Jackie and Stanley Tong two years to meticulously put together. It’s a little late to protest after he has collected his money but at least Jackie is willing to say something now. It still has value given that the same folks who ordered cuts and music changes to SUPERCOP are the same ones allowing this interview on their re-release. I am, of course, speaking largely of Harvey Weinstein and not the Dragon Dynasty team or Bey Logan who likely conducted the interview. I hope Jackie knows that many of his fans here in North America share his sentiments, just not enough to make a difference to those who put dollars ahead of artistic integrity and cultural deference.

Interview with Michelle Yeoh (23 minutes) – This non-exclusive interview with Michelle Yeoh looks to be somewhat old, I’d guess five to ten years old judging by Yeoh’s appearance. It’s still relevant though as she mostly discusses her work on SUPERCOP, in addition to briefly covering her background leading up to it. She is an extremely charming woman, on top having phenomenal looks, brains and tenacity. About the only thing she lacks is a large dose of humility but I won’t fault her for that.

Exclusive Interview with Stanley Tong (19 minutes) – Tong nearly spoils one of the best stunts in the movie by revealing that wires were placed on Yeoh during a scene when it’s impossible to tell by looking at it. I’ve never heard anyone else mention this, including Yeoh which leads me to wonder if it was supposed to be a secret or if Tong was confused. I’m more suspicious because in the same sentence he states that this was the only use of wires in the movie which contradicts Chan’s sensible claim that wires were used to keep him from falling off the ladder while dangling from the rope ladder on the helicopter. Perhaps Tong doesn’t count that because it doesn’t require a wire support team. Tong also mentions Yoeh cried after getting an injury. Seriously, he’s popping my inflated image of Yeoh as a complete badass. In all seriousness, Tong provides excellent insight into how he staged the pyrotechnics. Chan can claim this is his movie but Tong had most of the action storyboarded prior to shooting. Disregarding THE MYTH and its lousy script, Tong is a brilliant action filmmaker and its great to see him talking about one of his best movies.

Exclusive Interview with Ken Lo (22 minutes) – Ken Lo, former bodyguard to Jackie Chan and a 20-plus-year veteran of Chan’s stunt team gives his take on working with Jackie and SUPERCOP. He has a very different perspective given some of his statements. For instance, he says that Jackie has no problem working with any directors. This is contradicted by Jackie’s words in his interview where he talks about kicking out directors he doesn’t like, such as Kirk Wong. Lo obviously has great respect for Chan and maintains strong loyalty. No one would stay working under someone for so long otherwise. Lo is one of the best in the business. He talks about taking hard knocks on set and holding back his tears for when he got back to the hotel room. Hong Kong stuntmen were made of steel in those days, or so they wanted everyone, including each other to think. Their pain has been our gain. Here’s hoping DD scores interviews with more of Jackie’s team members.

Format: Region 1 NTSC DVD
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Widescreen (2.35:1)
Audio: Cantonese 2.0, English 5.1, English DTS
Subtitles: English, English SDH, Spanish
Length: 91 minutes
Release Date: 2009.01.13

REVIEW: Police Story 3: Supercop (DVD - Dragon Dynasty), 8.0 out of 10 based on 5 ratings

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  • Rhythm-X

    I’m making inconsequential cuts in my DVD purchasing habits.

  • Randy

    I’ve already got mine pre-ordered anyway, so I can scrap my old Dimension Films DVD.

  • http://www.kungfucinema.com/forums/member.php?u=1 Mark Pollard

    Rhythm-X, that is the outcome that I wish TWC would pay more attention to. 2009 is predicted to be a lean year for many of us and distributors are going to need to meet the demand of those still willing to pay for quality DVDs.

  • Anthropy

    Good review.

    Judging by the screen caps, I think the qicture quality looks rather grainy. Maybe for a better transfer, we have to wait for the Blu-ray remaster verion from the original film prints. Haha, I can dream.

    That’s a really good one-liner comment, Rhythm-X!

  • BruisedLo

    they might release this on blu-ray… Flash Point is on blu-ray… fist of legend needs to be in high def too.

  • Anthropy

    Hopefully, they do that, BruisedLo. And, for such a classic as Fist of Legend, it definitely deserves a “perfect” treatment.

    I think that even if they just release treasured kung fu classics with original remastered top-quality transfers on bared-bones blue-ray discs, fans and collectors would still buy them. Sometimes, people just want the intact film with the best possible quality.

    When will we ever see such a company??? Sigh!

  • Rhythm-X

    Thanks, I didn’t even consider it a one liner, though – merely a statement of fact. I won’t buy any more of their discs. If Dragon Dynasty, a label implicitly founded to right Dimension’s wrongs, starts rehashing most of those same idiotic mistakes… what’s the point of this, exactly?

    Nobody was irritated because the Dimension releases weren’t drowning in special features. They were irritated because the presentation of the films themselves was such a joke. This is merely that same joke told in Cantonese. It wasn’t funny then, and it is exponentially less funny now. They’ve even included an interview with the star talking about how unfunny the joke is. It’s like a release from the Bizzaro Criterion Collection.

  • KUNG FU BOB

    Well said Rythm-X!

    I do love the extras, but… COME ON! What a bunch of nonsense.

  • reason108

    “Damn You Logan, Bey!” Ha! (the new Michael Bay?)

    Why not just put the original print on the disc? Joe Average would buy the disc anyways because of the Supercop title. Do you think that he would return the copy to Best Buy because it included additional scenes that were not in his beloved Harvey Weinstein Dimension release version?

    This just appears to be cheap lazy-ness. Or, what budge they had went into getting the interviews and extras together. I guess that their thinking was that they already had the cut version so instead of going into the vault and getting the original print and re-storing it, just use what ya got.

    Hey, can we get a lawyer and sue over the claim of “Ultimate” edition? (haha) There should be a law against claiming that unless it really is.

  • dave binglry

    They have released a cut version of the film, but with the extras including an interview with Jackie where he talks about being unhappy with the way his films are cut for the western release?

    Isnt that not only making them look unprofessional but also showing even more disrespect towards Jackie…’you may express your disappointment but we’ll still cut the film the way we want’….

    while i love the films to get released with all the extras, and feel in so many cases the bare bones versions are already available as the Asian release for example, am just questioning what integrity the company has if they can continue to claim to be on the side of Asian cinema and yet continue to do this kind of stuff….its not that hard to release the disc along the lines of “DVD features both the original American release and the uncut Chinese language version as well as a number of special features”…

    they have a great library of titles, yet seem intent on continually fumbling them….disappointed again!!!

  • 107

    …with technology, it should be a standard option to play a desired version on one disk.
    this is just as stupid as having to make another purchase if you have full screen and want letterbox – again – both should be on a single disk. at least have a deleted scene section so we could see how inconsequential those parts really are. if i wanted edited movies, then i would view them on tv.

  • chen lung

    Bey has stated that buying the uncut version wouldn’t have been cheap, so it seems they made-do with the Cantonese soundtrack only.

  • Killer Meteor

    “Bey has stated that buying the uncut version wouldn’t have been cheap, so it seems they made-do with the Cantonese soundtrack only.”

    But didn’t they have a deal with Fortune Star?

  • Rhythm-X

    And wouldn’t they already have rights to the uncut version? Dimension/Miramax chopped it up AFTER licensing it. All the stuff they cut out, they already paid for. If they didn’t own it how did that footage end up on the Criterion laserdisc as “deleted scenes”? And how did that same laserdisc offer a Cantonese language track if they didn’t own that either?

  • chen lung

    DD sourced from a Dimension print, not from Fortune Star. Maybe they did source the soundtrack from Fortune Star (and it’s not mentioned on the packaging? just like ‘Heart Of Dragon’ HKL uses FS video and mentions the company, unlike Media Asia with their soundtracks/trailers), but Bey’s blog would also suggest DD deliberately went after the US version.

    Concuring with Rhythm-X, Miramax claimed they didn’t own the soundtrack rights, but I believe that was bullshit – I even emailed them and they surprisingly replied with shit excuses, I replied with further questions and they said “they didn’t have time to discuss it” – somewhat chickening out.

    1) ‘Drunken Master 2′s interview with JC had Mandarin-dubbed clips.

    2) ‘Iron Monkey’ had a Cantonese soundtrack (access to the individual masters as well judging from the new score).

    3) TV broadcastings of ‘Dragons Forever’and ‘Wheels On Meals’ in Cantonese/subtitled.

    4) ‘Fist Of Legend’ original English dub as opposed to their own.

    I’m assuming Harvey paid (more too) for everything (all soundtracks), although I’m speculating they only got export versions visual-wise and credit-less sequences.

  • KUNG FU BOB

    Guys, try to remember that Bey Logan DOESN’T RUN THE COMPANY! A lot of people keep taking swipes at HIM, but he’s NOT the final word on whether or not the film will be released cut. He’s certainly voicing his opinion, but that doesn’t mean it’s being listened to. I have nothing but respect for him and his efforts and contributions to the genre. As for Bey saying “the cut works”, well as much as I’d like the films to be released uncut, his statement is true. The film does still work. These cuts don’t create huge plot holes or ruin the flow of the film. And we can’t fault the guy for saying this, or because he isn’t willing to bite the hand that feeds him! Just because someone gets a job that involves their passion, or hobby doesn’t mean it always goes their way. Case in point: I got to do artwork for a book on a subject I love. I was very proud of what the writer, publisher and I had put together. But at the last minute they decided to use a cover that I thought sucked. Why put so much into the book and not represent it properly on the cover of all things!? Didn’t they know fans wouldn’t be attracted to that, or that it was simply lackluster? It didn’t matter. It was painted by the money man’s wife. People constantly asked me “Why didn’t you do something cool for the cover?”, but I couldn’t slap the company I was working for in the face and say “Here’s the BS reason…”. Bottom line: I still thought the product was worth backing, and loved that job. Creative or passionate doesn’t mean “has over-all say in everything”. It’s always the man that controls the money that’s pulling the strings and making all the big decisions based on financial output and gain. The Weinsteins are the culprits. And guess what? They DO NOT CARE ABOUT OUR OPINIONS. Sad, but true.

  • TibetanWhiteCrane

    I guess these morons are paying Bey’s bills, and feeding his three kids…. oh no wait, they’re not!

  • Rhythm-X

    “It’s always the man that controls the money that’s pulling the strings and making all the big decisions based on financial output and gain.”

    It seems to be more about stubborn “we were RIGHT to cut this film up” pride than money. If it were about financial output and gain (as it ought to be) we wouldn’t even be having this conversation because there wouldn’t be a cut SUPERCOP DVD in the first place. They’d be sure to sell more if they could put half-truths like “UNCUT for the first time” and “NEVER BEFORE SEEN FOOTAGE” on the cover. Combined with the subtitles and the mono soundtrack being authentic, there’d have been very little for anyone to complain about.

    It’s not like there’s a huge mainstream American audience breathlessly awaiting the reissue of SUPERCOP in the first place. While it’s completely true that not many people in general care that it’s the same cut version as before, once you look at the people who’re likely to ACTUALLY BUY IT, they are also far more likely to insist that the DVD they bought contains 100% of the movie.

    Alienating the people most likely to buy a product from you, all because the people you’d RATHER sell it to don’t care very much about parts of the film being missing, is insane.

  • GwaiLoMoFo

    “I guess that their thinking was that they already had the cut version so instead of going into the vault and getting the original print and re-storing it, just use what ya got.” Exactly. They are not going to spend more money on purchasing & restoring the original prints. When they can just clean up the prints they already own. The majority of the consumers wont know the difference anyway. People like us dont make up enough of that group to make a difference in their decision making.

  • Rhythm-X

    “People like us dont make up enough of that group to make a difference in their decision making.”

    That’s where they’re wrong. Compared to the general audiences to which they are selling these films, we don’t make up any numbers worth mentioning. Of the people who’d ever actually buy SUPERCOP, we make up a much larger percentage. That’s not even bringing word of mouth into it – when we aren’t happy, we discourage others from buying the product. Our satisfaction and dissatisfaction are amplified by what we say to our friends, family, and to random people on the Internet.

    We’re the base. You’re supposed to build on a base, not undermine it. Undermine the base and what you’re trying to build will collapse… every time.

  • Hervey

    Dragon Dynasty is pissing me off. At first I was so happy with their releases. However, recently I’m getting annoyed with how they are operating with their presentations of films.

    Well, at least I have the film uncut from a Hong Kong DVD that I bought a while ago. So I’ll get this on DVD for the extras and the updated picture quality. But DD is last on my list from now on.

  • Rhythm-X

    If you MUST buy this thing, at least hold off a bit and pick it up used so the company doesn’t get financially rewarded for this crap.

  • akatok1

    Oh, I’m so pissed off right now. I been waiting for years to see Supercop aka Police Story 3 in its original version, but we see the same crappy one that came out. Seriously what the hell….. They released all of the other movies in the uncut version, but you do this to a classic… how dare they do that. As a fan of Dragon Dynasty, I’ll will not buy it. They released Fist of Legend uncut, but you wanna release this crap.Then they let you know why they cut it, i could care less. For the first time we ( martial arts consumers) finally get to see the film the way the director wanted us to see. I hate it when American studio want to trim it down to make it understandable for us. I’m offended…. Dragon Dynasty get your shit right or you going to lose consumers. Also, I want to comment on people who have a problem with the extras… you is trippin bad. I be damn if I going to buy a DVD and it only has the picture and the sound quality great for 15 or 20 bucks. When I buy a DVD, I want the whole damn stuff on that movie.

  • Rhythm-X

    “They released all of the other movies in the uncut version”

    FIST OF LEGEND and SHANGHAI EXPRESS were cut versions too. TOM YUM GOONG was cut in theaters, but to be fair both versions were made available on DVD. And MY YOUNG AUNTIE was uncut but in the wrong language.

    I have no problem with extra features, but if you release a DVD with lots of extra features and a cut version of the movie then You’re Doing It Horribly Wrong.

    Dragon Dynasty is that guy in the neighborhood who has a rusted-out car sitting on blocks in the yard with a seized up engine… and instead of buying a new engine, he spends that money on installing a 50,000 watt stereo system in it. Sure it sounds good (while the battery lasts), but it won’t carry his ass to the grocery store.

  • WuxiaFan

    I have the Deltamac version of Supercop, which has the orginal Cantonese track. The picture looks awesome, too. I believe its the HK cut, and I’m very happy with it.

    I’ll probably buy the DD version just for the extras after prices come down. I like Bey’s audio commentaries when he’s on, such as with HKL Prodigal Son and HKL Fist of Fury. But sometimes, they’re not so good. Overall, I like them and I usually learn something that I didn’t know before I listened to it. So although I’m not that thrilled with DD, I’m glad they have Bey.

  • Killer Meteor

    Shanghai Express was an alternate edit. Its not technically cut. The HKL and Joy Sales are the same edit

  • Rhythm-X

    Hum, the only version of the film I’ve ever owned was the old Mei Ah MILLIONAIRES EXPRESS VCD which has all the so-called “deleted scenes” from Dragon Dynasty’s SHANGHAI EXPRESS DVD in the film. Is there any decent-looking DVD of the longer cut?

  • slave

    i only accumilated this becuz i’ve never assimilated the audio catonese version of this film. i’d like a clear perception of what exactly was cut from the original piece.

  • slave

    i’m talking about supercop by the way

  • slave

    by the way, all of you are are stupid for consuming this product 24.95. just to agitate your very existence, i aquired this DVD at Best Buy for 17.95.
    SUCKERS :)

  • slave

    if the price thing is accurate

  • Michael Rasmussen

    I’ll stick to my IVL release of Police Story 3. It is uncut and has a fine picture/sound unlike DD which is CUT ! Hopefully the definitive release of this film will come on Blu-Ray one day.